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Posted: 3/17/2018 11:24:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nuclearmonkey:
Wondering what you guys are using for bore guides?.. I know it's a bit more specialized for the bolt gun stuff, but was checking out a guy who custom makes them to match the bore, and the cleaning rod so the fit is rather tight. Company is Neil Jones. He also makes cleaning rods that are non-coated as he told me he specifically didn't like that the coating can get damaged, as well as pick up debris which can scratch the barrels. Everything I've ever read has been of the opposite opinion. Perhaps I need to get out more?.. Did you make a choice? If you go with the Jones stuff, make sure you update us on your thoughts. |
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Posted: 3/17/2018 2:20:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/17/2018 2:47:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mettee:
This is a little less. Seems simplified http://www.whiddengunworks.com/product/case-gauge-3/ 
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Posted: 3/17/2018 3:09:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DuneShoot:
Looked at that last night and didn't see a 260 option. This is caliber discrimination! |
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Posted: 3/17/2018 6:09:30 PM EDT
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I see the 260 now.
Had a hell of a time getting shoulder bumps to be consistant. Some were off from the previous case as much as .003. Tried making sure the bushing and necks didn't have lube on them and it seemed to help but still had some swings. Not sure if it caliper error or something else. Finally got a couple hundred done from .003 to .005 with most in the middle of that. Will get a better micrometer. For new unused brass, run them through the same die even if they have not been fired? |
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Posted: 3/17/2018 6:18:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DuneShoot:
I see the 260 now. Had a hell of a time getting shoulder bumps to be consistant. Some were off from the previous case as much as .003. Tried making sure the bushing and necks didn't have lube on them and it seemed to help but still had some swings. Not sure if it caliper error or something else. Finally got a couple hundred done from .003 to .005 with most in the middle of that. Will get a better micrometer. For new unused brass, run them through the same die even if they have not been fired? |
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Posted: 3/18/2018 1:13:15 PM EDT
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Out of a couple hundred cases this is all that were with in length spec.
Will order a Giraud case holder and blades for the .260. Hornady book says case length of 2.025 to 2.035. For cases that are longer than that should the be trimmed to min, max, or somewhere in the middle? |
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Posted: 3/18/2018 1:23:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/18/2018 1:23:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Defender3]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DuneShoot:
Out of a couple hundred cases this is all that were with in length spec. Will order a Giraud case holder and blades for the .260. Hornady book says case length of 2.025 to 2.035. For cases that are longer than that should the be trimmed to min, max, or somewhere in the middle? ETA - New brass should not be outside SAMMI specs. Who made the brass? |
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Posted: 3/18/2018 1:45:12 PM EDT
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I'm still loading once fired Hornady brass.
Will use new Lapua on the next batch. |
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Posted: 3/18/2018 3:10:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/18/2018 4:00:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DuneShoot:
Loading freedom while listing to freedom, Luke AFB air show flying over head. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/247601/IMG_7774-486354.JPG 
I was stationed at Luke in 1980; Germans were still there flying starfighters. |
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Posted: 3/18/2018 4:09:47 PM EDT
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iphone pic's of planes would just look like sky.
I remember you saying that a while back. We're 5 miles from the base. |
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Posted: 3/18/2018 8:45:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DuneShoot:
Out of a couple hundred cases this is all that were with in length spec. Will order a Giraud case holder and blades for the .260. Hornady book says case length of 2.025 to 2.035. For cases that are longer than that should the be trimmed to min, max, or somewhere in the middle? |
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Posted: 3/18/2018 8:46:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DuneShoot:
Loading freedom while listing to freedom, Luke AFB air show flying over head. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/247601/IMG_7774-486354.JPG |
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Posted: 3/18/2018 9:19:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mettee: Might have been answered, not sure, I'd go to the middle. |
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Posted: 3/19/2018 5:55:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Defender3]
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Today's update are some new arrivals to the homestead. While the two press setup is easy to use with the t-tracks, I took the plunge and decided to upgrade a bit. My box 'o stuff arrived:
Pretty heavily taped: 
Let's open it: 
Very well wrapped and packed: 
Hummm, what is this stuff???? 
Ah, Inline Fabrication! I decided to get a small quick change press riser and two quick change top plates, one for the T-7 and one for the Forster. That will allow me to use one spot on the table and simply quick change the presses using their plate system. 
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Posted: 3/19/2018 6:04:05 PM EDT
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In line makes nice stuff. Have it on my single stage.
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Posted: 3/19/2018 7:47:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DuneShoot:
In line makes nice stuff. Have it on my single stage.
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Posted: 3/19/2018 7:49:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MFST1: +1. I have the T7 set up on an Inline quick change plate as well. Gives me more bench space when not using the press. |
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Posted: 3/19/2018 8:08:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3: By chance, do you have more than one turret for your T-7 and if so, how are you using them? Will be setting up 556, 300BLK and (hopefully) 224 Valkyrie dies on second turret. (waiting for Redding Match bushing dies for Valkyrie to be released) |
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Posted: 3/19/2018 8:11:53 PM EDT
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Haven't posted on this thread much, but been following since day one. As a budding reloader, just wanted to say thanks for all the great intel.
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Posted: 3/19/2018 9:43:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mettee]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
Today's update are some new arrivals to the homestead. While the two press setup is easy to use with the t-tracks, I took the plunge and decided to upgrade a bit. My box 'o stuff arrived: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG_7120-1_JPG-485112.jpg Pretty heavily taped: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG_7119-1_JPG-485111.jpg Let's open it: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG_7121-1_JPG-485113.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG_7122-1_JPG-485114.jpg Very well wrapped and packed: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG_7123-1_JPG-485115.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG_7124-1_JPG-485116.jpg Hummm, what is this stuff???? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG_7127-1_JPG-485119.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG_7125-1_JPG-485117.jpg Ah, Inline Fabrication! I decided to get a small quick change press riser and two quick change top plates, one for the T-7 and one for the Forster. That will allow me to use one spot on the table and simply quick change the presses using their plate system. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG_7126-1_JPG-485118.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG_7128-1_JPG-485110.jpg Fail, no assembled mount pic
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Posted: 3/20/2018 6:32:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MFST1:
Haven't posted on this thread much, but been following since day one. As a budding reloader, just wanted to say thanks for all the great intel. |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 6:34:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mettee:
@defender3 Fail, no assembled mount pic Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mettee:
Originally Posted By Defender3:
Today's update are some new arrivals to the homestead. While the two press setup is easy to use with the t-tracks, I took the plunge and decided to upgrade a bit. My box 'o stuff arrived: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG_7120-1_JPG-485112.jpg Pretty heavily taped: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG_7119-1_JPG-485111.jpg Let's open it: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG_7121-1_JPG-485113.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG_7122-1_JPG-485114.jpg Very well wrapped and packed: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG_7123-1_JPG-485115.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG_7124-1_JPG-485116.jpg Hummm, what is this stuff???? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG_7127-1_JPG-485119.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG_7125-1_JPG-485117.jpg Ah, Inline Fabrication! I decided to get a small quick change press riser and two quick change top plates, one for the T-7 and one for the Forster. That will allow me to use one spot on the table and simply quick change the presses using their plate system. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG_7126-1_JPG-485118.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG_7128-1_JPG-485110.jpg Fail, no assembled mount pic |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 1:27:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3: @nuclearmonkey Did you make a choice? If you go with the Jones stuff, make sure you update us on your thoughts. Quick question - I remember one of the guys mentioned he was running a trigger tech trigger in the Larue... do we have confirmation that their AR triggers will work on the .260? I emailed them, and they said it looked like they should work just fine, but I know that the receiver on the .260 isn't your standard AR15 type lower. |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 2:20:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3: Not! It's all assembled but I need to save the update for today so I have something to post!
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Posted: 3/20/2018 2:22:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mettee]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nuclearmonkey: I tried for a bit to get a hold of the other dude, but kept getting email bounced back. Ended up going with Neil Jones' guides - I'll let you know as soon as they come in. I'm still in the' waiting for stuff to arrive phase' (other than the Larue of course!), but will give some updates once I get up and rolling. Think my Nightforce is still about 3 weeks out tho, so... Quick question - I remember one of the guys mentioned he was running a trigger tech trigger in the Larue... do we have confirmation that their AR triggers will work on the .260? I emailed them, and they said it looked like they should work just fine, but I know that the receiver on the .260 isn't your standard AR15 type lower. ETA: sorry I thought you were talking bore guides |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 2:40:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nuclearmonkey:
I tried for a bit to get a hold of the other dude, but kept getting email bounced back. Ended up going with Neil Jones' guides - I'll let you know as soon as they come in. I'm still in the' waiting for stuff to arrive phase' (other than the Larue of course!), but will give some updates once I get up and rolling. Think my Nightforce is still about 3 weeks out tho, so... Quick question - I remember one of the guys mentioned he was running a trigger tech trigger in the Larue... do we have confirmation that their AR triggers will work on the .260? I emailed them, and they said it looked like they should work just fine, but I know that the receiver on the .260 isn't your standard AR15 type lower. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nuclearmonkey:
Originally Posted By Defender3: @nuclearmonkey Did you make a choice? If you go with the Jones stuff, make sure you update us on your thoughts. Quick question - I remember one of the guys mentioned he was running a trigger tech trigger in the Larue... do we have confirmation that their AR triggers will work on the .260? I emailed them, and they said it looked like they should work just fine, but I know that the receiver on the .260 isn't your standard AR15 type lower. |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 2:41:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mettee:
Just use the new packages arriving today for the update, you cant recycle updates Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mettee:
Originally Posted By Defender3: Not! It's all assembled but I need to save the update for today so I have something to post!
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Posted: 3/20/2018 2:45:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3: True, but I can drag them out for a day or so. |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 2:46:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mettee: I should have a hell of an update soon.
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Posted: 3/20/2018 3:59:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Defender3]
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Today's update is a bit early. I'm giving a dinner presentation on the Evolution of USAF Security Forces - From Military Police to Security Forces, so you get the update an hour early.
The t-tracks in the reloading bench allow me to install a variety of devices by simply clamping them in the tracks. While the tracks offered versatility, I decided I wanted to reduce the footprint on the bench so I could have three distinct "sections" I could futz around in so, I wanted to remove one of the presses, but still have the ability to use both. Enter Inline Fabrication and their quick change press mounts. I selected a small riser since my bench top is already optimized for standing or sitting on a stool, but it does offer a better view of the press ram area. The original two-press setup using the t-tracks: 
It was pretty simple to put together the Inline quick change press mount. It's heavy duty, sturdy and nicely powder coated. 
The top plates for the Redding T-7 and Forster Co-Ax: 
All together: 
I needed a mounting platform and decided to use what I hoped was an old leftover black shelf (well, now that I cut it up, it's certainly leftover). I thought the black on black would look good. Same process as before, line up the mount and drill the holes, then do the same for the t-track mounts.  The quick change plates slip into to rear slot and then the two screw mounts are used to secure the top plate to the mount and provide a steady surface. 
The presses attach to the top plates and then slip into the quick mount base. There is also a slight forward offset helping clearances. 
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Posted: 3/20/2018 8:39:39 PM EDT
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D3-Nice set-up!
I'm headed out with my Dad tomorrow for some plinkin'. |
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Posted: 3/21/2018 7:10:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DuneShoot:
D3-Nice set-up! I'm headed out with my Dad tomorrow for some plinkin'. |
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Posted: 3/21/2018 2:37:07 PM EDT
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I'm in painting phase 1 today so it's a cheap update. I found a guy selling 400 pieces on new Lapua .260 brass, and he even weight sorted it. It was a great deal ($200 with shipping) so I bought it. I think I have enough brass for 10 years.
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Posted: 3/21/2018 7:05:07 PM EDT
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Nice deal! I would have swooped on that deal!
I found a new 8 pound jug of H4350 for $200. Picking it up tomorrow. Had a good range day today with my Dad. 300, 500, and 760 yards. Only got one pic and I may post it later. |
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Posted: 3/21/2018 10:06:38 PM EDT
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 Attached File Attached File1st 2 groups at 100 yards-1st group all touching, 2nd 1" spread. 3rd and 4th trying to out shoot the shootist WITH an ornage dot in the center of the target were around 1". That paper is tough to shoot for some reason! My Dad's 1st time shooting this 260 and his first TWO groups were nearly as good as my group. Now I'm sunburnt AF! |
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Posted: 3/22/2018 6:32:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DuneShoot:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/247601/dad_awning-489743.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/247601/awning-489744.JPG 1st 2 groups at 100 yards-1st group all touching, 2nd 1" spread. 3rd and 4th trying to out shoot the shootist WITH an ornage dot in the center of the target were around 1". That paper is tough to shoot for some reason! My Dad's 1st time shooting this 260 and his first TWO groups were nearly as good as my group. Now I'm sunburnt AF! Oh, and sweet sun shade! |
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Posted: 3/22/2018 4:11:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Defender3]
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Still painting, battle mixer goodness. That's it for today.
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Posted: 3/22/2018 5:23:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DuneShoot:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/247601/dad_awning-489743.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/247601/awning-489744.JPG 1st 2 groups at 100 yards-1st group all touching, 2nd 1" spread. 3rd and 4th trying to out shoot the shootist WITH an ornage dot in the center of the target were around 1". That paper is tough to shoot for some reason! My Dad's 1st time shooting this 260 and his first TWO groups were nearly as good as my group. Now I'm sunburnt AF! |
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Posted: 3/22/2018 5:24:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
Still painting, battle mixer goodness. That's it for today. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG_7183_JPG-490262.jpg |
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Posted: 3/22/2018 7:12:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Defender3]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mettee: Looks like my hallway and garage...been doing the same thing. But add in tile, counter tops, shower, etc.
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Posted: 3/23/2018 1:49:28 PM EDT
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Good deal on a TargetVision LR2 here.
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Posted: 3/26/2018 7:02:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
I pulled one of the Hornady 130 ELD-Ms. Like the Gorilla, the projectile was loaded deep. Whatever powder Hornady is using is loaded to 42.1grs. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/Hornady-130-ELD-M-221968.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-5042-221967.jpg |
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Posted: 3/26/2018 10:15:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bfk4lyfe]
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uhh help? donut in the neck. using a FL redding type s with a 287 bushing (no expander ball) and 1x fired Hornady brass. I understand the concept of using too much lube can cause problems but im not using any more than i have in the past. |
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Posted: 3/27/2018 12:26:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bfk4lyfe:
https://i.imgur.com/pyNoa3D.jpg uhh help? donut in the neck. using a FL redding type s with a 287 bushing (no expander ball) and 1x fired Hornady brass. I understand the concept of using too much lube can cause problems but im not using any more than i have in the past. |
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Posted: 3/27/2018 12:46:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bfk4lyfe:
https://i.imgur.com/pyNoa3D.jpg uhh help? donut in the neck. using a FL redding type s with a 287 bushing (no expander ball) and 1x fired Hornady brass. I understand the concept of using too much lube can cause problems but im not using any more than i have in the past. |
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Posted: 3/27/2018 1:27:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rugerdog: Was the brass fired out of a Larue .260 or something else. Just wondering mettee: you mean for a better picture? they're all that shiny and i don't have any scotch brite at the house. basically there's a little step from the shoulder to the neck, you can feel it with your finger nail. i posted the same thing on snipershide and one guy said its not a "donut" as used in the reloading sense, but rather the neck isn't getting sized all the way. he said it might be because the bushing was moving too much during the resize, however I had the top snugged down then backed off 1/4 turn per the instructions. 
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Posted: 3/27/2018 3:28:59 AM EDT
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I'm just guessing it's something to do with friction.
And is the bushing in upside down? |
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