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Originally Posted By Defender3:
Page 22 ownage. Here's a picture of the spreadsheet I use for tracking reloading data. This works for me, but I'd be interested in what you guys may be using. If anyone wants a copy of the spreadsheet, which has two rifles and 12 workbooks (8.5x11), drop me an IM with your e-mail addy and I'll send you a master copy that is editable. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/Reloading--Data-Sheet-230047.jpg Filled out using a computer and with group pictures inserted. Handwritten works too. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/Reloading--Data-Sheet-1-230125.jpg View Quote |
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Took my small load test out today. 5 of the 8 groups fired were under .75 MOA.
I initially fired 100 rounds of Hornady 130 ELD-M factory ammo during my first two range sessions with the rifle. From those 100 pieces of 1x fired brass, only 26 were under max SAAMI length after I resized them. I loaded 24 rounds and shot eight 3-round groups. I'm waiting on my .260 case holder and cutting head for my Giraud trimmer to arrive before I can trim the rest of the brass and continue with the load tests. 41.8 of Reloder 16 under a Nosler 140 CC showed a lot of promise. Seems 41.8-42.2 of just about any powder is the sweet spot for these 140-class bullets. All of the 6.5 Creedmoor and 260 Remington rifles I've played with were in that range. |
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Originally Posted By FRBaseball:
Took my small load test out today. 5 of the 8 groups fired were under .75 MOA. I initially fired 100 rounds of Hornady 130 ELD-M factory ammo during my first two range sessions with the rifle. From those 100 pieces of 1x fired brass, only 26 were under max SAAMI length after I resized them. I loaded 24 rounds and shot eight 3-round groups. I'm waiting on my .260 case holder and cutting head for my Giraud trimmer to arrive before I can trim the rest of the brass and continue with the load tests. 41.8 of Reloder 16 under a Nosler 140 CC showed a lot of promise. Seems 41.8-42.2 of just about any powder is the sweet spot for these 140-class bullets. All of the 6.5 Creedmoor and 260 Remington rifles I've played with were in that range. View Quote Did you bump the shoulder back, if so how much? What COAL did you load to? TIA. |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
I'd be interested in your final results. A couple of questions: Did you bump the shoulder back, if so how much? What COAL did you load to? TIA. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By FRBaseball:
Bumped the shoulder back .003 to 1.621". I don't know the COAL, I usually just measure base-to-ogive, which was 2.277 with that Nosler 140. I know it's short, it will fit in a PMAG. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By FRBaseball:
Originally Posted By Defender3:
I'd be interested in your final results. A couple of questions: Did you bump the shoulder back, if so how much? What COAL did you load to? TIA. Load and Factory Spreadsheets sent. |
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Originally Posted By wompastompa:
130 ELD coming along nicely. http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a544/alabamachucksnake/260%20130_zpsxukhvlaq.jpg View Quote My 22" .260 barrel lands tomorrow....now I just need to get something to put it in! |
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Originally Posted By wompastompa:
130 ELD coming along nicely. http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a544/alabamachucksnake/260%20130_zpsxukhvlaq.jpg View Quote |
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Factory until I have more brass.
These 120-130 class bullets are the ticket for a gas .260 to 1,000. |
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Originally Posted By wompastompa:
130 ELD coming along nicely. http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a544/alabamachucksnake/260%20130_zpsxukhvlaq.jpg View Quote These hand loads or factory ETA: just needed to read a little bit farther down |
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Originally Posted By wompastompa:
130 ELD coming along nicely. http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a544/alabamachucksnake/260%20130_zpsxukhvlaq.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By wompastompa:
130 ELD coming along nicely. http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a544/alabamachucksnake/260%20130_zpsxukhvlaq.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By wompastompa:
130 ELD coming along nicely. http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a544/alabamachucksnake/260%20130_zpsxukhvlaq.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
I was down to six boxes so I ordered a case of the ELD-Ms from a company and they failed to ship after two weeks even though they said they were in stock. I ordered some boolits instead. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-5170-230664.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By mettee:
What performed better for you? The eld or the prime factory loaded stuff? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By mettee:
Originally Posted By Defender3:
I was down to six boxes so I ordered a case of the ELD-Ms from a company and they failed to ship after two weeks even though they said they were in stock. I ordered some boolits instead. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-5170-230664.jpg The issue I introduce is trying to do too much in a session and that in itself is distracting. Knowing you need to shoot both the bolt and gasser, knowing that you need to get MVs and test 3, 4, 5 differing types of ammo, etc., all distract you when you're trying to shoot bug holes at 100. I record the individual MVs and that takes you off the rifle and your have to reposition, bolt trigger vs MBT, mechanics of the rifles, etc., etc. I just need to get out, do one thing and do it well when doing some of this testing. |
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Nice shooting.
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Hopefully RD doesn't mind a cross post:
RugerDog's 260 Recipe for Magic "Larue 22" TOBR Lapua brass Fed match primer 130 gr TMK 47.0 gr 4831sc 2909 fps average, single digit spread over 20 shots using lab radar. Very good performance at all tested ranges. 100-1400 yards. Loaded to 2.80" Absolutely floored with the performance of this load." |
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D3, You don't HAVE to post something daily
On a side note: folks on the hide are raving about the Lapua 139 Scenar. They are all bolt gun guys in that thread but has anyone used this bullet in the Larue .260? |
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Originally Posted By DuneShoot:
D3, You don't HAVE to post something daily On a side note: folks on the hide are raving about the Lapua 139 Scenar. They are all bolt gun guys in that thread but has anyone used this bullet in the Larue .260? View Quote The Hornady 140 eldm and Lapua 139 Scenar are starting to get scarce, that's the only down side to shooting a 6.5 is finding reloading components. I'm currently on the hunt for some Reloader 16 to try out just because I'm watching my stash of h4350 wither away and it's not getting easier to find. For loading mag length I would think the Lapua 139 and Nosler 140 rdf would be great for shooting distance as they both like a good jump, the Berger hybrids aren't too bad either but they did better .2 off in my rifle which was 2.90 coal. |
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Originally Posted By DuneShoot:
D3, You don't HAVE to post something daily On a side note: folks on the hide are raving about the Lapua 139 Scenar. They are all bolt gun guys in that thread but has anyone used this bullet in the Larue .260? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By DuneShoot:
D3, You don't HAVE to post something daily On a side note: folks on the hide are raving about the Lapua 139 Scenar. They are all bolt gun guys in that thread but has anyone used this bullet in the Larue .260? I have two boxes of the 139 Scenars I could load and give a try. Today is the last range trip for data and then it's time to experiment a bit with the Scenars. Originally Posted By Aby001:
I agree I hear a ton of folks on the Hide using the 139 Scenar with success, that is the one 140 grain bullet I have not tried. I'm shooting a Tikka 260 while I wait for my Larue 260. So far the Berger hybrids have worked very good, Im getting sub .5 moa groups with them. I just got 500 Nosler 140 rdf and Hornady 140 eldm to try out just because they are a hell of a lot cheaper than the Bergers. The Hornady 140 eldm and Lapua 139 Scenar are starting to get scarce, that's the only down side to shooting a 6.5 is finding reloading components. I'm currently on the hunt for some Reloader 16 to try out just because I'm watching my stash of h4350 wither away and it's not getting easier to find. For loading mag length I would think the Lapua 139 and Nosler 140 rdf would be great for shooting distance as they both like a good jump, the Berger hybrids aren't too bad either but they did better .2 off in my rifle which was 2.90 coal. ETA - Loaded 10 Lapua 139s and 10 Barnes 140 Match Burners: Peterson brass, F210M, 42grs of H4350 to COAL of 2.800. I added them to today's testing so I'll track MVs and see how they perform in the bolt and gasser. |
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Didn't get a chance to shoot the 139's in the Larue?
Didn't you have issues before and your tore down the rifle to check everything? What was the out come? Also check the barrel centering pin (I think that's what it's called) just for grins. Make sure it's in there tight. |
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Originally Posted By DuneShoot:
Didn't get a chance to shoot the 139's in the Larue? Didn't you have issues before and your tore down the rifle to check everything? What was the out come? Also check the barrel centering pin (I think that's what it's called) just for grins. Make sure it's in there tight. View Quote I tore it down, cleaned it up and put it back together. It was shooting well, but today, not so well. I'll tear it down again and make sure that extension pin is tight! I'm going to process the LabRadar data as the Hornady 130 ELD-Ms are not as consistent in ES and SD as a previous lot. |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
Here's what I'm referring to, it's killing me: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/L260-16-Jun-17-R-C-232163.jpg View Quote |
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Shot some 120ELD out of the 6.5. Velocity around 2,900. To 1,000 they do not give up much to the 130,140's.
I plan to reload some .260 with 120's, for a "18 gun I think the velocity bump will be the ticket. |
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Originally Posted By wompastompa:
Shot some 120ELD out of the 6.5. Velocity around 2,900. To 1,000 they do not give up much to the 130,140's. I plan to reload some .260 with 120's, for a "18 gun I think the velocity bump will be the ticket. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
Here's what I'm referring to, it's killing me: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/L260-16-Jun-17-R-C-232163.jpg View Quote |
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I'll be heading out tomorrow to chrono my load.
Nosler 140 CC 41.8 Reloder 16 Hornady 1x brass CCI 200 Hoping to see 2700fps out of it. |
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H4350 In stock at Cabelas.
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Originally Posted By DuneShoot:
H4350 In stock at Cabelas. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By DuneShoot:
Scroll down for prices. 4350 is $29.69. Although 8 pounders are now not listed I got an 8 pound jug and 123 & 130 bullets. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Just got back from the range. Unfortunately, I am an idiot and forgot to bring the factory 260 ammo, so I only had 10 rounds of factory ammo already loaded in a mag, and 5 rounds of my reloads to chrono.
The 5 rounds of 41.8 Reloder 16 under a 140 Nosler CC were right at 2754 with an SD of 7. Measured with a magnetospeed V3. First round went straight through the dot, then the next four went high and right. I blame the chrono. That cluster of 4 measured .434" CTC. Attached File Then fired 3 rounds of factory Hornady 130s, came left a few clicks and fired the last 7 rounds at a 2MOA plate at 645. Video will be up later of the plate. Here is the 3 rounds at 100. That measured .304" CTC. Attached File My main goal for the day was to get an SR25 zeroed and chrono'd for a class that I'm taking later this year. Laid down a couple 3/4MOA groups and then smacked the shit out of steel all the way to 1008 yards, so mission accomplished. |
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Originally Posted By DuneShoot:
H4350 In stock at Cabelas. View Quote |
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Great shooting both of ya!
wompa-I have a slash heavy buffer & spring. may try it out next time. Hope it solves my stove pipe issue suppressed. |
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Originally Posted By wompastompa:
Wife tells me I have to get ready for a wedding in an hour, but I just got a heavy buffer and spring for the .260 and wanted to try it out. Had a 1 hole group going through 3 rounds, and decided to go for 10. Should've quit at 9, it would've been one big ragged hole. Slash's heavy carbine buffer, 8.6oz compared to 4.3ish stock. I like how it cycles, noticeably softer. No problems with ejection or failure to feed. This is probably the right spring/buffer combo for this suppressor. Just ordered some H4350 thanks to the link above, if it wasn't that I want to load some 120's there is no economic reason to reload when Hornady 130's are this good. http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a544/alabamachucksnake/IMG_9270_zpsy15qzf7b.jpg View Quote |
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