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I ordered 100 of the Alpha cases and spoke to Andrew at Alpha about the brass. He said it's on par with the Lapua brass and has a H2O capacity of 53 grains. He said it has been annealed and it has a bit more neck tension than, for instance, the Lapua (but I did not ask how much of a reduction). He said he's been shooting his brass in his GAP-10 with consistency and success. I discussed the LaRue 260 and he gave me his rifle's favorite load, which I believe was 43.5grs of H4350 with the 130gr Bergers (I need to confirm as I was at a banquet).
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
I ordered 100 of the Alpha cases and spoke to Andrew at Alpha about the brass. He said it's on par with the Lapua brass and has a H2O capacity of 53 grains. He said it has been annealed and it has a bit more neck tension than, for instance, the Lapua (but I did not ask how much of a reduction). He said he's been shooting his brass in his GAP-10 with consistency and success. I discussed the LaRue 260 and he gave me his rifle's favorite load, which I believe was 43.5grs of H4350 with the 130gr Bergers (I need to confirm as I was at a banquet). View Quote |
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10,000 round barrel life
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Originally Posted By reelserious:
10,000 round barrel life View Quote I think we know a fast mover will substantially cut that barrel life figure. I have in the back of my mind that Mark said he'd replace any barrel that gets shot out. Are your shooting a .260? |
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Prime ammo is back on sale:
Orders over $250 ship for free. Orders over $500 ship for free and take 5% off. Good through the 4/30. |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
Prime ammo is back on sale: Orders over $250 ship for free. Orders over $500 ship for free and take 5% off. Good through the 4/30. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By andrewz71:
Is there a code you enter cause my cart still shows full price $521...and $28 shipping? I am signed up for emails from them but still have yet to receive any. View Quote |
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An ARF member was nice enough to invite me out to Quantico tomorrow for some long-range shooting (600-1000y). Since this is my first time there, I'll be focusing on getting acclimated, observe the range ops, mechanics, etc., as well as putting some rounds downrange with the .260. I have my preliminary range cards so I can also work to validate them with range time.
I've only shot long-range once in 30+ years and it was at the LaRue range-day at the 2011 ARFCOM 3-Gun in KY when Dakota Meyer was walking my shots in at 980y. I'm excited to finally do some shooting that isn't limited to the 100y local range. Of course I'll take pictures and provide a range report, even if I stink up the place. |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
An ARF member was nice enough to invite me out to Quantico tomorrow for some long-range shooting (600-1000y). Since this is my first time there, I'll be focusing on getting acclimated, observe the range ops, mechanics, etc., as well as putting some rounds downrange with the .260. I have my preliminary range cards so I can also work to validate them with range time. I've only shot long-range once in 30+ years and it was at the LaRue range-day at the 2011 ARFCOM 3-Gun in KY when Dakota Meyer was walking my shots in at 980y. I'm excited to finally do some shooting that isn't limited to the 100y local range. Of course I'll take pictures and provide a range report, even if I stink up the place. View Quote Take some pictures if you are allowed. I'd love to see the place. Live vicariously a little bit. |
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Well that looks like a day full of heaven
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Slow is smooth. Smooth is fast.
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anyone know what a good over all scope is to put on the .260? i have my choices narrowed down to two NF models.
4-14x56 and 5-20x56 not really sure which one but i don't want to over do it either. i AM NOT an experienced long range shooter beyond 600 yards which shoot my Barrett .50 BMG but nothing past that. that .50 is also kinda cheating too. thanks for the input. MB |
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Originally Posted By tacticalmedic450:
anyone know what a good over all scope is to put on the .260? i have my choices narrowed down to two NF models. 4-14x56 and 5-20x56 not really sure which one but i don't want to over do it either. i AM NOT an experienced long range shooter beyond 600 yards which shoot my Barrett .50 BMG but nothing past that. that .50 is also kinda cheating too. thanks for the input. MB View Quote |
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Originally Posted By tacticalmedic450:
anyone know what a good over all scope is to put on the .260? i have my choices narrowed down to two NF models. 4-14x56 and 5-20x56 not really sure which one but i don't want to over do it either. i AM NOT an experienced long range shooter beyond 600 yards which shoot my Barrett .50 BMG but nothing past that. that .50 is also kinda cheating too. thanks for the input. MB View Quote |
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Slightly off topic.
I met the owner of Prime Ammo this morning. Talked for a few minutes, he seemed genuinely surprised that I knew who was buying pallets of ammo from him. Gonna go back tomorrow and order some 260 from him, and maybe some 6.5 C. Might need some 308 while I'm at it. |
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: I'll stick my dick in a WorkSharp before I let you try to sharpen anything of mine.
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Originally Posted By mi650:
Slightly off topic. I met the owner of Prime Ammo this morning. Talked for a few minutes, he seemed genuinely surprised that I knew who was buying pallets of ammo from him. Gonna go back tomorrow and order some 260 from him, and maybe some 6.5 C. Might need some 308 while I'm at it. View Quote Where did you meet Jim, in Vegas or are you guys at the NRA? I had a room and a ticket then my guys scheduled meetings I couldn't get out of, no how, no way. |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
I have deemed this post to not be off-topic. Where did you meet Jim, in Vegas or are you guys at the NRA? I had a room and a ticket then my guys scheduled meetings I couldn't get out of, no how, no way. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Defender3:
Originally Posted By mi650:
Slightly off topic. I met the owner of Prime Ammo this morning. Talked for a few minutes, he seemed genuinely surprised that I knew who was buying pallets of ammo from him. Gonna go back tomorrow and order some 260 from him, and maybe some 6.5 C. Might need some 308 while I'm at it. Where did you meet Jim, in Vegas or are you guys at the NRA? I had a room and a ticket then my guys scheduled meetings I couldn't get out of, no how, no way. Seems like a good guy, and told me the story of how he got his business ethic, and why he calls customers to thank them. |
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: I'll stick my dick in a WorkSharp before I let you try to sharpen anything of mine.
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Congrats on the fantastic range day. Thanks for the pics.
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Thanks for all the info and pics, D3.
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ALWAYS the best updates. Thank you.
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Originally Posted By SmokieRiver:
ALWAYS the best updates. Thank you. View Quote I was thinking about glass last night and while the Vortex Razor HD 5-20x50 was excellent, you could see a difference in that Schmidt & Bender. Both were clear to the edge of the glass, but the S&B was sharper, and that Horus reticle was pretty slick. I've been shooting at 100y where you believe you have a clear and sharp glass with minimal chromatic distortion, but you can see the difference in the S&B when you're at distance. Don't get me wrong, the Vortex was fine at both 600 and 1000. I had no issues clearly seeing the targets and tracking my shots, and I'm not saying I'm junking my optics and making several house payments to get a S&B, but it was a superior optic. Maybe the next time we head out I'll see if I can put a couple rounds downrange with that AI/S&B combo to get a better feel. I was also spotting for one of the guys and it was pretty slick to see the bullet trace coming in at the 2 O'clock and going to the target. Okay, time to head down to the basement and watch some F1 while checking the tOBR and ensuring that popped primer didn't create any lasting issues. TL/DR: S&B is killer glass, seeing a bullet trace made me giddy and I'm off to clean and inspect. |
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what's the price difference between the 2 optics?
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The worst thing you can do for your gun budget is lay down behind a S&B scope... you did know how much you "needed" it until then lol. The next worst thing is to turn the turrets on it.. then every time you make an adjustment on your other scope you just feel let down lol
I will say I do prefer a Horus reticle... makes holds very easy and spotting takes the geuss work put of a lot of things. I have 2 bushnell HDMR scopes and like them just fine.. just sight it in and don't touch a thing and only times I touch the turret is to put 5mil on when I am out past 800 or so.. |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
<snip> TL/DR: S&B is killer glass, seeing a bullet trace made me giddy and I'm off to clean and inspect. View Quote Looks like a great day and thank you for posting. I have been following this thread as am weighing swapping out my tOBR barrel for a .260 when available or buying a 6.5 bolt. Your experiences seem to be very positive. |
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Originally Posted By nihilsum:
Have not spent a great deal of time behind, or owned, a Razor Gen 1, but felt the Razor 2 was also a pretty big step up from it in almost every way, especially glass. Looks like a great day and thank you for posting. I have been following this thread as am weighing swapping out my tOBR barrel for a .260 when available or buying a 6.5 bolt. Your experiences seem to be very positive. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By nihilsum:
Originally Posted By Defender3:
<snip> TL/DR: S&B is killer glass, seeing a bullet trace made me giddy and I'm off to clean and inspect. Looks like a great day and thank you for posting. I have been following this thread as am weighing swapping out my tOBR barrel for a .260 when available or buying a 6.5 bolt. Your experiences seem to be very positive. FWIW, I have two Krieger barrels in .264 just waiting for me to make a decision. I was going to have one spun up in 6.5CM for my .308 bolt gun, but now with the way the .260 is shooting, I may just have the barrel done in .260 so I'm not dealing with 5.56, .260, 6.5CM and 7.62. I was saving the other to have a 6.5CM made for the tOBR, but by the time you finish you have a significant chunk of change invested for no real benefit. Ah, first world problems. |
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Any ideas on why the primer blew,i have a 260 in my safe and a couple cases of prime ammo.i dont want to be blowing primers on a new gun.
since larue is testing the 260's with prime i thought things should be good to go. I have not yet fired my 260 because of work and the weather and was hoping to have my tranquilllo out of jail before taking it to the range.looks like i better go run some prime thru it and see how mine runs and how cratered the primers are just in case it needs a little talc at the mothership.hopefully it is a isolated incident but I'm looking for 100% reliability not the worries of primer parts jamming up my gun. Pete |
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D3... we need to be shooting buddies... distance may be an issue but I've got a ranch with private range as far as you can shoot
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Carry it, shoot it. (repeat forever)
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Originally Posted By Defender3
I was thinking about glass last night and while the Vortex Razor HD 5-20x50 was excellent, you could see a difference in that Schmidt & Bender. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By IMSHAKN:
Take a look through the gen 2 razors, I won't be buying anymore Schmidt & Benders. They pissed me off when they dropped the lifetime warranty they used to have. With the almost undetectable deference between the Gen 2 razor glass and substantially cheaper price of the razor I've stopped even looking at them. They used to be the gold standard but so many people are making good high quality optics these days View Quote |
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Originally Posted By IMSHAKN:
Price through vortex for mil or le sweetens the pot if you're eligible... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
I honestly have no idea. I'm still inspecting (had to take a break and mow the lawn) and will have an update later this evening. I found there were two blown primers, but I do not know if they were related, or what proximity in the order of fire they occurred. Here's a picture, but again, this is preliminary and we shouldn't be jumping to any GD-like conclusions. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-4600-198797.jpg View Quote So a blown primer, did you notice anything different with that round when you fired it besides the obvious? Wonder if the bullet set back or pushed in, anything something damaged? |
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Originally Posted By mettee:
See those cases have the ejector swipe...that is more like what mine are doing...but mine are worse. So a blown primer, did you notice anything different with that round when you fired it besides the obvious? Wonder if the bullet set back or pushed in, anything something damaged? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By mettee:
Originally Posted By Defender3:
I honestly have no idea. I'm still inspecting (had to take a break and mow the lawn) and will have an update later this evening. I found there were two blown primers, but I do not know if they were related, or what proximity in the order of fire they occurred. Here's a picture, but again, this is preliminary and we shouldn't be jumping to any GD-like conclusions. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-4600-198797.jpg So a blown primer, did you notice anything different with that round when you fired it besides the obvious? Wonder if the bullet set back or pushed in, anything something damaged? ETA - The ejector swipe is not as prominent as it looks in the picture. |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
I have deemed this post to not be off-topic. Where did you meet Jim, in Vegas or are you guys at the NRA? I had a room and a ticket then my guys scheduled meetings I couldn't get out of, no how, no way. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Defender3:
Originally Posted By mi650:
Slightly off topic. I met the owner of Prime Ammo this morning. Talked for a few minutes, he seemed genuinely surprised that I knew who was buying pallets of ammo from him. Gonna go back tomorrow and order some 260 from him, and maybe some 6.5 C. Might need some 308 while I'm at it. Where did you meet Jim, in Vegas or are you guys at the NRA? I had a room and a ticket then my guys scheduled meetings I couldn't get out of, no how, no way. Wife and I spent about an hour at their booth today. While I was BSing with Jim, my wife was helping people sign up for his ammo give away contest. Ended up ordering a case each of 260, 308, and 6.5 CM. We swapped hunting stories and pics, BSed about all kinds of stuff. Oh, and found out he's a Yooper. |
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: I'll stick my dick in a WorkSharp before I let you try to sharpen anything of mine.
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
PLEASE stop, I am eligible. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Originally Posted By jeep450:
It would be in the $2k range. 40% off MSRP. Basically they sell to you at dealer cost. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By jeep450:
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Please stop, I just talked myself out of a Gen II 4.5-27... |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
If it wasn't a three-day drive I'd be all over it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
You guys are killing me! I've looked at the MOA version on Experticity over and over again, it's been in my cart and then out and then in again (at the 40% off pricing). I'm not convinced it will make me shoot any better. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Defender3:
Originally Posted By jeep450:
Originally Posted By Defender3:
Originally Posted By IMSHAKN:
Originally Posted By Defender3:
Please stop, I just talked myself out of a Gen II 4.5-27... Made me a pretty damn good shooter if I do say so myself Attached File |
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Originally Posted By jeep450:
Want me to mail you my Milrad version to try out? It's in a LaRue mount sighted in @100 yards Made me a pretty damn good shooter if I do say so myself https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/99144/IMG-5728-198965.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By jeep450:
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Originally Posted By IMSHAKN:
Originally Posted By Defender3:
Please stop, I just talked myself out of a Gen II 4.5-27... Made me a pretty damn good shooter if I do say so myself https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/99144/IMG-5728-198965.JPG ETA - It was the gun, couldn't have been the shooter. |
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