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Originally Posted By Defender3:
Happy Father's Day! I have 10 bottles of dust for the crew following the thread. If you can use one for the summer grilling season, drop me an IM with your name and address and I'll send you a bottle. One to a customer, void where prohibited, promotion can end at any time and sorry, only good for you, I'm not getting into the send it to my cousin's friend who ordered from LaRue 3-years ago and now lives in Tajikistan. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/Dust-233367.jpg I cleaned and stripped the tOBR, put it back together and then put another optic on it that I know is good (came from the bolt gun before I upgraded to the Gen II). It's back to the range this morning to see how it's shooting today. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
Hence the ability to draw down a bit while still maintaining OG dust and sufficient stock. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Originally Posted By jdhill:
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Originally Posted By jdhill:
What is wrong with this picture? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/209757/34575379573-bfd3257996-o-233576.JPG View Quote What ammo is that that lost the primer. |
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Originally Posted By FRBaseball:
Co-exist. At least until my Tranquilo comes home next year. http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo220/A62335/IMG_6796_zpssdt9b5qy.jpg View Quote |
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Went out and zeroed rifle, have 100 rounds of Hornady eld's coming tomorrow. Shot a 5 shot group right at an inch, only had 13 rounds so not a lot to report. Was using 129gr sst's average velocity 2837.
Also put an orange spring and h3 buffer in, still not happy with its ejection, thinking I'll just have to go balls to the wall with the heaviest buffer weight I can find then maybe try to work my way backwards. |
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Originally Posted By Joshpuh:
Went out and zeroed rifle, have 100 rounds of Hornady eld's coming tomorrow. Shot a 5 shot group right at an inch, only had 13 rounds so not a lot to report. Was using 129gr sst's average velocity 2837. Also put an orange spring and h3 buffer in, still not happy with its ejection, thinking I'll just have to go balls to the wall with the heaviest buffer weight I can find then maybe try to work my way backwards. View Quote Pete |
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Originally Posted By icecold1:
Were you shooting supressed? If not did you try flipping to supressed on the gas block,flipping the switch to supressed should lesson the bolt speed and as long as the gun functions ok there is no need to care what setting it is on. Pete View Quote |
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Originally Posted By dHUTCH:
@Defender3 Weren't you having this same problem when you first got your .260? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By dHUTCH:
Originally Posted By Joshpuh:
Yes suppressed, it's beating the crap out of my brass and my upper receiver. Pst on suppressed, h3 buffer and orange spring, trying to find an 8oz buffer Weren't you having this same problem when you first got your .260? ETA - While I had 1 o'clock ejection, I wasn't getting bolt bounce, beat by the recoil, or the hard brass swipes JD experienced. |
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Originally Posted By jdhill:
Interestingly, the swipes were only on the Federal, not on the Hornady... per the box the Federal is pushing a 120gr pill @ 2950fps and the Hornady a 129gr pill @ 2930fps... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Originally Posted By jdhill:
Interestingly, the swipes were only on the Federal, not on the Hornady... per the box the Federal is pushing a 120gr pill @ 2950fps and the Hornady a 129gr pill @ 2930fps... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
That's faster than the Prime, which is loaded right to the edge for bolt guns. View Quote |
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I also screwed around with resizing 7.62x51 brass into .260Rem brass. Like I mentioned above, I have piles of Lake City brass, so it is worth experimenting a little bit. I tried resizing a few pieces a couple of days ago with the intention of making some dummy rounds, but when I ran the LC brass through the sizing die, it didn't bump the shoulder back to the same length as it does the Hornady .260Rem brass, and as such, it wouldn't chamber. I don't like resetting dies, so I ordered a second Hornady sizing die which showed up today.
I pulled 30 pieces of 1x fired LC LR 13 (M118LR) that had previously been shot through a bolt gun. I deprimed and annealed them, and then ran them through the new resizer die. I bumped the shoulder back just a little bit more than I normally would, 1.619 vs. 1.621, and I'll let the gun fire-form the shoulder/neck just a tad. Not sure if that is needed, as I've never converted brass before, but it seemed like a good idea at the time. Brass is now in the tumbler to remove all the lube, then I'll clean out the primer pockets and deburr the case mouths. The cases are slightly under minimum SAAMI length, so I won't be trimming anything. Hopefully the cases will grow a bit after being fired and resized again. I did not measure the neck thickness, and I won't be messing around with neck turning. That would make this endeavor more work than it's worth. Of the 5 dummy rounds that I made earlier, all of them measured .296 OD at the neck with a bullet seated, so I don't see any issues with running the brass as-is. I don't expect fantastic results, but if I can find something that shoots at or under 1 MOA with an acceptable SD, then I can at least make some good positional practice ammo, and save my Hornady and Lapua brass for match use. I'll pull the brass out of the tumbler tomorrow and load up some test ammo. To be continued.... |
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Some video from the last range session.
Larue PredatAR .260 @ 645 Yards |
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Originally Posted By FRBaseball:
Some video from the last range session. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2b6GpfccFE View Quote |
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Originally Posted By jdhill:
Note, that this is the velocities listed on the box... I don't have a chrono (yet), so I don't think it was going that fast out of the 22". I was not getting any bolt bounce, nor did I feel like the recoil was excessive. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By jdhill:
Originally Posted By Defender3:
That's faster than the Prime, which is loaded right to the edge for bolt guns. Originally Posted By FRBaseball:
Received my new brass catcher today from Tactical Brass Recovery. I heard about these guys from a little review John @ 8541 Tactical did on them a while back. At the time he was using it on his 6.5 Creedmoor gasser he built for PRS. I scoffed at the idea of spending $200+ on a brass catcher since I have over 7,500 pieces of LC 7.62 brass laying around, so I filed the company name away and moved on with my life. But now that I plan on running the LaRue .260Rem in my local PRS matches, the thought of losing any of my small supply of Hornady and Lapua .260Rem brass to the desert doesn't sit well with me. So, I broke down and ordered one for myself. Lew was a great guy to work with, and he even kicked in a nice LE discount for me. The catcher mounts via a nice ADM QD picatinny mount. I chose the medium length mount, from the measurements provided on their website it seemed that mount length would work across all of my AR10 and AR15 rifles. The hinge is solid and locks into place firmly at each detent. There are no levers, latches, or buttons to mess with, simply swing the catcher into and out of place as needed. The bag is advertised as being heat resistant and able to hold up to 75 pieces of 7.62-class brass. It unzips at the bottom to allow easy access to all the brass. The catcher can also be collapsed down while in place to make the profile smaller if needed. The entire setup is very well thought out and assembly appears to be excellent. All of the bolts use nylon lock nuts to secure them, so hopefully I won't have to worry about it ever vibrating apart. I am hoping to be able to test it out tomorrow morning, and I will report back afterwards. http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo220/A62335/IMG_6798_zps2lnla5bp.jpg http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo220/A62335/IMG_6797_zpske9r09ks.jpg http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo220/A62335/IMG_6799_zpsochonnta.jpg http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo220/A62335/IMG_6805_zps8g3pt5sc.jpg http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo220/A62335/IMG_6800_zpsxwjoazfd.jpg http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo220/A62335/IMG_6801_zpst6f9bdp7.jpg http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo220/A62335/IMG_6802_zpsh878i046.jpg http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo220/A62335/IMG_6803_zpsmebpdell.jpg http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo220/A62335/IMG_6804_zpscsx9woil.jpg http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo220/A62335/IMG_6807_zpsqgigincl.jpg http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo220/A62335/IMG_6808_zpsuyuc2gt5.jpg http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo220/A62335/IMG_6809_zpsn8owrekm.jpg Originally Posted By FRBaseball:
Some video from the last range session. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2b6GpfccFE Break, break... Here's a target I found on the net that is setup to record load data. PDF Version Here JPEG Version Here |
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Originally Posted By FRBaseball:
Out at the range right now. Brass catcher works as advertised, and man is it nice. No more chasing after my brass. No more having it bounce off a bag and get stuck under my hand or arm, burning the hell out of me. No more beat up case mouths from dinging off the metal roof support poles. Worth the $200 if you reload in my opinion. Confirmed zero, did a 5/10 mil tall target test, and then made 1st round hits at 645, 797, 870, and 1008. I love this rifle. http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo220/A62335/IMG_6811_zpsergmnswe.jpg http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo220/A62335/IMG_6813_zpsoaqist5r.jpg View Quote Any issues managing the weight? Do you think the medium was the right choice for the 260 and an AR? |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
Thanks for the update! Any issues managing the weight? Do you thin the medium was the right choice for the 260 and an AR? View Quote The mid length was the correct choice for my rifles. I only own one rifle that has full-length pic rail on the 3, 6, and 9 o'clock positions of the rail system. The rest of my rifles use either M-Lok or some sort of proprietary rail interface to add pic rail sections. The only length that would share commonality between all of my rifles and their pic rail mounting locations was the mid length, 8 1/4 - 8 1/2". With most rail systems being modular, I think the mid length model will work for just about any rifle out there. |
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Originally Posted By FRBaseball:
I didn't even notice the weight, but I only shot prone off a bipod. I doubt it will make a difference during positional shooting, the rifle already weighs over 17lbs, and I can't imagine shooting more than 20-25 rounds on even the longest of field courses here in my area, so the brass weight probably won't be noticeable either. The mid length was the correct choice for my rifles. I only own one rifle that has full-length pic rail on the 3, 6, and 9 o'clock positions of the rail system. The rest of my rifles use either M-Lok or some sort of proprietary rail interface to add pic rail sections. The only length that would share commonality between all of my rifles and their pic rail mounting locations was the mid length, 8 1/4 - 8 1/2". With most rail systems being modular, I think the mid length model will work for just about any rifle out there. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By FRBaseball:
Originally Posted By Defender3:
Thanks for the update! Any issues managing the weight? Do you thin the medium was the right choice for the 260 and an AR? The mid length was the correct choice for my rifles. I only own one rifle that has full-length pic rail on the 3, 6, and 9 o'clock positions of the rail system. The rest of my rifles use either M-Lok or some sort of proprietary rail interface to add pic rail sections. The only length that would share commonality between all of my rifles and their pic rail mounting locations was the mid length, 8 1/4 - 8 1/2". With most rail systems being modular, I think the mid length model will work for just about any rifle out there. ETA - 7" won't work with the tOBR's rail lock, need to go longer! |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
Thanks for the quick reply. Lew's already approved my Mil/LEO discount and I'm going to order after I do some measurements on my .260/7.62 and 5.56 tOBRs. I was thinking the 7" will work given the mounting position of the 9 o'clock rail section. ETA - 7" won't work with the tOBR's rail lock, need to go longer! View Quote For anyone wondering, the 7" model will work on the 7.62 PredatAR rifles, and it that was the only rifle I wanted to use the catcher on, I would have ordered that version to save a slight amount of weight and bulk. |
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Originally Posted By FRBaseball:
Ha, I was curious about that. I'm already looking ahead to buying a tOBR in the future, and didn't think the 7" would clear the levers on that rail. The 7" version is also not compatible with the URX 3.1 rails on a few of my KAC SR-25s, so I didn't have a choice anyways. For anyone wondering, the 7" model will work on the 7.62 PredatAR rifles, and it that was the only rifle I wanted to use the catcher on, I would have ordered that version to save a slight amount of weight and bulk. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By FRBaseball:
Originally Posted By Defender3:
Thanks for the quick reply. Lew's already approved my Mil/LEO discount and I'm going to order after I do some measurements on my .260/7.62 and 5.56 tOBRs. I was thinking the 7" will work given the mounting position of the 9 o'clock rail section. ETA - 7" won't work with the tOBR's rail lock, need to go longer! For anyone wondering, the 7" model will work on the 7.62 PredatAR rifles, and it that was the only rifle I wanted to use the catcher on, I would have ordered that version to save a slight amount of weight and bulk. |
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Originally Posted By AR10Brian:
Finally made it out to shoot the 260 again, and got some pretty interesting results. While I have been, until yesterday, unable to find any H4350, I decided to try some powders I already had. So cross referencing my "heavily biased toward things that work with 308" inventory and some published 260 loads, I gave Varget a try. Pretty sure based on things I've read, it's not going to be a fast load, at least relative to rough equivalent loads with H4350. And probably not the factory loads either. I didn't have my chronograph so I don't have any data to report on MV's, so I'm speculating. I'm guessing most folks aren't going to load Varget in 260's, but I thought it'd still be of enough interest to post how it worked for me. You never know when we may run short on certain powders again. I'm going to say it worked pretty well accuracy wise. http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b516/abcrabtree/20170620_204500_zpsc4jvfwsq.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By jdhill:
Federal Fusion 120gr... had ETA: Pics of the cases that lost their primers: https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4289/35393074365_0b30b98450_z.jpg View Quote I know people with these issues have gone to a stiffer buffer and buffer spring and had better results.. BUT Has anyone contacted LaRue to see what they have to say? |
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Originally Posted By Blaster7R:
My experience is pretty close to that with FGMM 142gr. the case swipes where as bad. but no blown primers.. would get malfunctions in the rifle shooting suppressed and 1oclock ejection suppressed with the gas port in the appropriate positions.. I know people with these issues have gone to a stiffer buffer and buffer spring and had better results.. BUT Has anyone contacted LaRue to see what they have to say? View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Joshpuh:
Talked to John at Larue, he said start with an orange spring and h3 buffer, may have to go heavier than that from there View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Joshpuh:
Originally Posted By Blaster7R:
My experience is pretty close to that with FGMM 142gr. the case swipes where as bad. but no blown primers.. would get malfunctions in the rifle shooting suppressed and 1oclock ejection suppressed with the gas port in the appropriate positions.. I know people with these issues have gone to a stiffer buffer and buffer spring and had better results.. BUT Has anyone contacted LaRue to see what they have to say? |
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Originally Posted By AR10Brian:
Finally made it out to shoot the 260 again, and got some pretty interesting results. While I have been, until yesterday, unable to find any H4350, I decided to try some powders I already had. So cross referencing my "heavily biased toward things that work with 308" inventory and some published 260 loads, I gave Varget a try. Pretty sure based on things I've read, it's not going to be a fast load, at least relative to rough equivalent loads with H4350. And probably not the factory loads either. I didn't have my chronograph so I don't have any data to report on MV's, so I'm speculating. I'm guessing most folks aren't going to load Varget in 260's, but I thought it'd still be of enough interest to post how it worked for me. You never know when we may run short on certain powders again. I'm going to say it worked pretty well accuracy wise. http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b516/abcrabtree/20170620_204500_zpsc4jvfwsq.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
FWIW - The red Sprinco spring provides 10.5lbs closed and 18.4lbs of force open and the orange is 13.9 and 24.8lbs respectively. On my last range trip I changed to the orange spring/H3 and orange spring/H2 to see if they provided any advantage, but ended up going back to the red/H2 combo. Clearly YMMV. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
FWIW - The red Sprinco spring provides 10.5lbs closed and 18.4lbs of force open and the orange is 13.9 and 24.8lbs respectively. On my last range trip I changed to the orange spring/H3 and orange spring/H2 to see if they provided any advantage, but ended up going back to the red/H2 combo. Clearly YMMV. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Defender3:
Originally Posted By Joshpuh:
Originally Posted By Blaster7R:
My experience is pretty close to that with FGMM 142gr. the case swipes where as bad. but no blown primers.. would get malfunctions in the rifle shooting suppressed and 1oclock ejection suppressed with the gas port in the appropriate positions.. I know people with these issues have gone to a stiffer buffer and buffer spring and had better results.. BUT Has anyone contacted LaRue to see what they have to say? |
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Originally Posted By Blaster7R:
So what comes in the factory .260's from LaRue? Is there any official guidance on factory ammo? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Blaster7R:
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Originally Posted By Joshpuh:
Originally Posted By Blaster7R:
My experience is pretty close to that with FGMM 142gr. the case swipes where as bad. but no blown primers.. would get malfunctions in the rifle shooting suppressed and 1oclock ejection suppressed with the gas port in the appropriate positions.. I know people with these issues have gone to a stiffer buffer and buffer spring and had better results.. BUT Has anyone contacted LaRue to see what they have to say? |
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Originally Posted By FRBaseball:
I've seen successful results with Varget in shorty 6.5 and .260Rem barrels running 120s and 123s. By short I mean 16.5". I was thinking about playing with it when I get around to shooting my 18" Larue barrel. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By FRBaseball:
Some video from the last range session. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2b6GpfccFE View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
I've got some "stuff" to catch up on: use the straw hack on my Chargemaster while I await the new sleeve, reprogram the Chargemaster to throw a bit faster, pack the range back with the chamber flags that I give out when I pull RSO duties, update the data book, play with that fidget thing, thing, thing, and throw some charges with the new funnels (while watching some Barrett-Jackson) to get ready for another trip out to Quantico. Hopefully this weekend we can get one long-range day, but you never know until Friday night. ETA - Need to think of something for post 10,000 also - ideas? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-5213-1--236591.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Freakinout:
Fidget spinner video... that one sure looks familiar View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Freakinout:
Originally Posted By Defender3:
I've got some "stuff" to catch up on: use the straw hack on my Chargemaster while I await the new sleeve, reprogram the Chargemaster to throw a bit faster, pack the range back with the chamber flags that I give out when I pull RSO duties, update the data book, play with that fidget thing, thing, thing, and throw some charges with the new funnels (while watching some Barrett-Jackson) to get ready for another trip out to Quantico. Hopefully this weekend we can get one long-range day, but you never know until Friday night. ETA - Need to think of something for post 10,000 also - ideas? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-5213-1--236591.jpg |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
I've got some "stuff" to catch up on: use the straw hack on my Chargemaster while I await the new sleeve, reprogram the Chargemaster to throw a bit faster, pack the range back with the chamber flags that I give out when I pull RSO duties, update the data book, play with that fidget thing, thing, thing, and throw some charges with the new funnels (while watching some Barrett-Jackson) to get ready for another trip out to Quantico. Hopefully this weekend we can get one long-range day, but you never know until Friday night. ETA - Need to think of something for post 10,000 also - ideas? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-5213-1--236591.jpg View Quote I just picked up the Area 419 funnel set its on sale. Great piece of hardware. I hate fight spinners but those are pretty rad. For 10k you should attempt a trick long range shot dude perfect like |
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