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Well, the unemployment bug has struck me! Looks like I may have some time on my hands, and just when the weather starts to really get cold. Ha, ha, I'm not sure Mark would be making forward progress with me as a shootist! And son of a gun, it's been 60 degrees almost all of December and tomorrow we will be getting SNOW! P.S. I still like snow. |
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P.S. I still like snow. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Defender3:
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Well, the unemployment bug has struck me! Looks like I may have some time on my hands, and just when the weather starts to really get cold. |
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We got snow in Leander late yesterday
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I have been asked to point out that I am LaRue Tactical's owner.
My work has been used by tens of thousands of US Military personnel, and tens of thousands of civilian shooters - ML |
Carry it, shoot it. (repeat forever)
Hard Livin' Clean Given' Cool Driven. - WWIIWMD God Bless Texas "... it's the socialism, stupid." - RL My life is my own. |
Originally Posted By Freakinout:
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We got to 26 degrees last night in Frisco but no snow.
D3 I have faith you'll find something worthwhile to fill your time with. |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
What are you doing on-line, you unemployed too? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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I just threw the 18" 260 barrel in mine to try out and boy is it handy! Would make me an awesome hunting rifle.
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I was thinking of trading my spare 22" for an 18".
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All it would take away is a little MV
I kinda want to do a smaller 4x16 atacr for it now. The 22" with 5x25 is hefty. I don't have a can yet but I bet the 18" with a can would be sweet. |
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Originally Posted By mettee:
All it would take away is a little MV I kinda want to do a smaller 4x16 atacr for it now. The 22" with 5x25 is hefty. I don't have a can yet but I bet the 18" with a can would be sweet. View Quote |
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Welp....I've decided to sell the .260 PredatAR. Going to move back to the bolt gun side of things.
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Originally Posted By bfk4lyfe:
I'll trade you my 18" for your 22"....has 60 rounds of factory H130s thru it.. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Smith Enterprises just released a medium weight barrel for M1A/M14s in .260.
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Originally Posted By DuneShoot:
Christmas Range day. 1st time for my wife shooting the 260 at 500, 800, and 1000. https://i.imgur.com/T7LM8xE.jpg Only got a 5-6 hits between the both of us at 1000. View Quote 1,000 is tough. You get comfortable at 800 and any little nuance will throw you off: too much grip pressure, a little variance in the wind or a bad wind call, mirage, etc., etc. You should feel good you got hits at 1,000! |
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Mirage was for sure an issue.
Was still a great day at the range. Wife was making consistant hits at 500 with a .223 rife and we tried out a new super short .22 AR I recently assembled. I've been looking at one of those bullseye camera systems. Would make it a lot easier to see hits way out there. |
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How did you wife like shooting the 260, none of the girls I have offered to let shoot mine want to because "its loud" ha
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She really enjoys the longer range shooting. She has no issues with this or a .223 long range rifle.
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Funny all the girls like shooting mine,don’t even need ear protection. The tranquillo suppressor rocks??
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How did this fall to page 2???
Anyway, since it's freezing here in WI, I'm going to start reloading for the 260. I finally got around to getting a Labradar, and have almost everything for reloading. I wanted to sanity check the following, as my different brass is calling for different bushings: - Lapua - I got a 0.294 bushing (measurements called for 0.293-0.294 based on virgin cases measured by neck thickness and ABM loaded rounds measured by neck size) - Pederson - I got a 0.294 bushing (measurements called for 0.293-0.294 based on ABM loaded rounds measured by neck size) - Prime - Planning on ordering 0.287 (measurements called for 0.287-0.288 based once fired cases measured by neck thickness and factory loaded rounds measured by neck size) - Hornady - Still need to measure . . . . I was also going to order 0.290 based on something I remember reading earlier. Does this chime with others experiences? I'm using Redding Competition dies. Thoughts . . . |
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Originally Posted By SmokieRiver:
How did this fall to page 2??? Anyway, since it's freezing here in WI, I'm going to start reloading for the 260. I finally got around to getting a Labradar, and have almost everything for reloading. I wanted to sanity check the following, as my different brass is calling for different bushings: - Lapau - I got a 0.294 bushing (measurements called for 0.293-0.294 based on virgin cases measured by neck thickness and ABM loaded rounds measured by neck size) - Pederson - I got a 0.294 bushing (measurements called for 0.293-0.294 based on ABM loaded rounds measured by neck size) - Prime - Planning on ordering 0.287 (measurements called for 0.287-0.288 based once fired cases measured by neck thickness and factory loaded rounds measured by neck size) - Hornady - Still need to measure . . . . I was also going to order 0.290 based on something I remember reading earlier. Does this chime with others experiences? I'm using Redding Competition dies. Thoughts . . . View Quote Thanks for getting us back to page 1! Light snow here today, but loads of wind so it will be an inside day. |
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Can someone remind me why we need these bushing for reloading?
I bought one a while ago but forget which size right now. I haven't used bushing on .223 or grendel loads. |
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Originally Posted By DuneShoot:
Can someone remind me why we need these bushing for reloading? I bought one a while ago but forget which size right now. I haven't used bushing on .223 or grendel loads. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By SmokieRiver:
I believe it's based on the dies you are using. For both the .223 and .260 I will be using Redding competition dies, and both require the bushing in the neck resizing die. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SmokieRiver:
Originally Posted By DuneShoot:
Can someone remind me why we need these bushing for reloading? I bought one a while ago but forget which size right now. I haven't used bushing on .223 or grendel loads. What he said, some dies require the bushings to set neck tension. |
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I have the Whidden dies.
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Just looked up my order and got item 749016193 from Brownells<br style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 15px;">
Think I got the .289 based on your suggestion. |
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Originally Posted By DuneShoot:
Just looked up my order and got the 749016193 WHIDDEN BSHNG FL SIZE & SEAT 260 REM with a .289 bushing. Think I got the .289 based on your suggestion. View Quote |
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@DuneShoot
What brass are you reloading? I saw a consistent difference between Lapua and Prime brass in terms of neck thickness, which will drive a bushing size difference of 0.294 v 0.287, respectively. I'm not experienced enough to know if this range will make a noticable difference in neck tension when reloading, but I figured I would point it out. |
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I haven't started yet but I will start with Hornady brass then Lapua.
I have no experience with neck bushings but have a friendI can ask to help get me started to make sure it's safe & correct. How do you know which bushing you need before you start? |
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I followed the recommendation from the Redding catalog for each brand of brass I have. I'm keeping records by brass brand and lot number, with 5-10 sample per lot.
Here is a cut & paste from the Redding catalog on how determine what bushing you need: The easiest way to determine the proper diameter bushing, is to measure the neck diameter of several loaded or dummy cartridges with an accurate micrometer. Subtract .001”–.002” from the average neck diameter and this diameter bushing will generally size case necks to create the proper press fit for the bullet. Another method is to measure the neck thickness with a ball micrometer or our Case Neck Gauge (see page 33). Double the neck wall thickness and add this number to the bullet diameter. The result is the neck diameter of a loaded cartridge, and bushing size can be determined as above. After loading several cases, it’s a good idea to test the neck’s grip on the bullet. The simplest method is to push the bullet in a loaded cartridge against the edge of your reloading bench with moderate hand pressure. The bullet should not move easily in the case neck. If the bullet pushes deeper in the case, select the next smaller bushing and start again. When using your bushing die, we have found that lubricating case necks and installing the bushing numbers down may improve results. Many experienced reloaders like to adjust the die to size 1/2 to 3/4 of the case neck. This has been shown to improve accuracy in most instances. Final note: If you are not sorting case neck wall thickness for uniformity, we do not recommend the use of any bushing style die without a sizing button. |
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Here is a couple of my records to show the difference (sorry, formatting is hard to follow):
Prime .260 Rem Lot #Neck SizeNeck Thickness 02091501 0.2880 02091501 0.2880 02091501 0.2880 02091501 0.2880 02091501 0.2880 02091501 0.2880 02091501 0.2880 02091501 0.2875 02091501 0.2880 02091501 0.2890 02091507 0.2880 02091507 0.2880 02091507 0.2880 02091507 0.2880 02091507 0.2885 02091507 0.2880 02091507 0.2880 02091507 0.2880 02091507 0.2880 02091507 0.2880 unknown 0.0120 unknown 0.0120 unknown 0.0120 unknown 0.0120 unknown 0.0120 Median 0.2880 0.0120 Average 0.2881 0.0120 Std Dev 0.0003 0.0000 Lower 95% 0.2876 0.0120 Upper 95% 0.2885 0.0120 Prime Bushing size High from Avg 0.287 0.288 Low from Avg 0.286 n/a High 95% 0.288 0.288 Low 95% 0.286 0.288 Lapua .260 Rem Lot #Neck SizeNeck ThicknessOAL 4PH6050 0.0145 4PH6050 0.0145 4PH6050 0.0145 4PH6050 0.0145 4PH6050 0.0145 4PH6050 0.0150 4PH6050 0.0145 4PH6050 0.0145 4PH6050 0.0145 4PH6050 0.0145 Median 0.0145 Average 0.0146 Std Dev 0.0002 Lower 95% 0.0143 Upper 95% 0.0148 Lapua Bushing Size High from Avg 0.293 Low from Avg n/a High 95% 0.294 Low 95% 0.293 |
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Thanks, now I remember
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Took my .260 out today. Tested a few things. Made good hits out to 1250. I had fun.
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Went out today with the 260 - only 20 rounds due to not having the right gloves. 18° F so I decided to grab a box of Prime over the Hornady. The gun and scope were dialed in for Hornady. Prime started off nearly an 3/4 inch high at 100 yds. Went out to 200 yds and with no holdover or dialing, it was perfect for a zero (scope is zeroed at 100 yds). Wish I had the LabRadar and a box of Hornady with me to compare the two. I did have a 5 shout group under <1MOA, so overall what I expected out of the gun when I do my part.
For reloading, I measured the neck thickness of 20 spent cartridges of the Hornady (10 samples of two separate lots) and the results came in the same as the Prime. Therefore, I ordered a 0.288, 0.290 and have a 0.294 bushing for neck tension. FYI Brownell's has the equivalent of 10% off at the $200, $400 and $600 spend marks today. |
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Originally Posted By DuneShoot:
Where do you go? And nice shootin'! View Quote I had loaded some 130 Hornady loads using my TMK data to see if they would be interchangeable for my rifle. My dope from the TMKs was dead nuts on and then I verified by shooting a few TMKs. I had a 2/3 e target set at a mile but without a spotter I was unable to connect. I drug out my old .308 and checked it as well. It was still zeroed and my AB dope was correct. All in all a good day. ETA: I do not put targets on the road. I just use the road to access my targets via vehicle. |
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You guys see the new alpha brass with small rifle primer pockets?
https://store.alphamunitions.com/product/260-remington-srp/ |
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