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Posted: 8/16/2017 5:19:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dHUTCH:
So....we gonna call this thing? If so I'm going to start looking at some LR classes here locally. |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 5:47:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bfk4lyfe:
http://i.imgur.com/8oVxTFO.jpg I'm surprised the ballistics are so similar in these two rounds (I have an 18" .260 barrel). Out to 500 they're within .15 or so mils of drop and then the .260 slowly starts to pull away. The wind drift is basically identical out to 1000. I'm using 4DOF with a 10mph wind, 260@2550 and 65G@2480. Estimated numbers from the threads here, I haven't personally chrono'd either yet. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 8/16/2017 7:27:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
I'm going to give it until Thursday to see if we get any more takers. If not, I'm calling it Friday and will update here. We're still four short and no-one from the TX HTF has committed, so I think the outcome has been cast. Any interest in a later date? Fr8dog |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 8:01:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fr8dog:
D3 I would have jumped on this but November and December are right in the middle of the peak season for "The World on time" business. I would not be able to get the time off to attend. Any interest in a later date? Fr8dog Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fr8dog:
Originally Posted By Defender3:
I'm going to give it until Thursday to see if we get any more takers. If not, I'm calling it Friday and will update here. We're still four short and no-one from the TX HTF has committed, so I think the outcome has been cast. Any interest in a later date? Fr8dog |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 8/16/2017 10:42:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
From my standpoint, no. Too much of a hassle trying to herd cats, so to say. My suggestion would be to await the 2018 schedule and if there's a class some of us could attend, we try and make that happen. Fr8dog |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 11:55:30 AM EDT
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If it weren't this year and the middle of the week, I'd be gtg.
Just started a new job and can't take off in the week for a class. Disposable income will be better, however for future scheduling. |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 12:13:38 PM EDT
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I just got a shipping notice for 2× boxes 260 Rem 130 gr OTM
I bought the gun in Febuary Thanks @larue_tactical 
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Posted: 8/16/2017 12:38:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jeep450:
I just got a shipping notice for 2× boxes 260 Rem 130 gr OTM I bought the gun in Febuary Thanks @larue_tactical 
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Posted: 8/16/2017 12:44:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
"Someone" must be reading the thread. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
Originally Posted By jeep450:
I just got a shipping notice for 2× boxes 260 Rem 130 gr OTM I bought the gun in Febuary Thanks @larue_tactical |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 12:57:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jeep450:
I just got a shipping notice for 2× boxes 260 Rem 130 gr OTM I bought the gun in Febuary Thanks @larue_tactical |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 1:50:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By buss45:
I ordered mine last August. No shipped email yet but I see a tracking number in my order history. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By buss45:
Originally Posted By jeep450:
I just got a shipping notice for 2× boxes 260 Rem 130 gr OTM I bought the gun in Febuary Thanks @larue_tactical |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 8/16/2017 6:33:39 PM EDT
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Shipping notice for one box!
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Posted: 8/16/2017 7:15:45 PM EDT
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I think we should keep planning this class for 18. I will be down for sure so keep me on the mental list.
And I can team up for travel with my AZ homies as well. Should be fun. If a few of my friends have more time that will help them go as well. |
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Posted: 8/17/2017 10:52:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Defender3]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mettee:
I think we should keep planning this class for 18. I will be down for sure so keep me on the mental list. And I can team up for travel with my AZ homies as well. Should be fun. If a few of my friends have more time that will help them go as well. |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 8/17/2017 11:22:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
It's not looking good so I think I'll end up pulling the plug. We can review the schedule once they publish and just see what we may be able to work. I'll ne neck deep in starting a new company, so I doubt I'll be fully engaged trying to coordinate. |
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Posted: 8/17/2017 3:42:14 PM EDT
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We will make it happen guys
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Posted: 8/17/2017 4:13:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/17/2017 5:15:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dHUTCH:
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Posted: 8/17/2017 11:17:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: soonerman]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mettee:
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Posted: 8/18/2017 1:13:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By soonerman:
I believe the translation to modern English parliance is "Bull Crap!" |
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Posted: 8/18/2017 5:33:22 AM EDT
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I'm going to officially pull the plug - we're still short - even with some TX HTF folks stepping up.
I will NOT be pushing for a special class the next time this rolls out, rather, I think it best we look at the 2018 schedule (when released) and see if we can get to a class. I appreciate everyone's consideration and attempts to make this happen! |
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Posted: 8/18/2017 8:40:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mettee:
seems out of place kinda, since if we dont do it this time we will do it next time We'll get-er-done in 2018! |
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Posted: 8/18/2017 3:46:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dHUTCH:
That was my comical, I'm sad we aren't doing this emote. We'll get-er-done in 2018! 
We shall definitely get it done |
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Posted: 8/18/2017 4:20:26 PM EDT
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Speak of the devil
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Posted: 8/18/2017 4:33:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Freakinout:
Speak of the devil |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 11:50:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Defender3]
[#26]
I went to the local range today to test any potential POI shift after I changed the installed 7.62 brake with the 6.5mm (260) brake. Unfortunately I also decided to move the scope one rail section up the rail for a more repeatable eye box so, I suspect the POI shift was mostly due to moving the optic. I was shooting the Hornady 130g ELD-Ms at 100 yards:
Bottom Target - These are the first shots. I made a .75MOA elevation and .5 right adjustment and then fired the single shot at the top target. Looked good to me so I locked it down. 
Here are 3-shots after the adjustments: 
I then installed the TQ and used some old DOPE to dial up 2.5MOA: 
I made adjustments of .25MOA up and .25MOA right and shot this group: 
I noted the TQ requires 2.75MOA Up elevation and .5MOA right. I then shot a tracking test for the Gen II Vortex. I wanted to see if it tracks in MOA or in Inches Per Hundred Yards. I made a level horizontal line, then a plumb vertical line and then marked at 10, 20, 30 and 40 inches. I shot zero, then kept the same POA and dialed in 10, 20, 30 and 40MOA. I dialed back to zero and reshot it one more time. I'll have to do the measurements, but it appears to be tracking to MOA. 
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Posted: 8/20/2017 11:59:23 AM EDT
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Nice shooting
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Posted: 8/20/2017 12:02:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Freakinout:
Nice shooting |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 12:54:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/20/2017 1:32:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistorySo, I consider Cabelas to be overpriced. Have you actually gotten any deals doing this?
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Posted: 8/20/2017 1:43:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: buss45]
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
So, I consider Cabelas to be overpriced. Have you actually gotten any deals doing this? Forster Co-Ax Press is on sale for $280 final price after cash back would be $280-$56(gift cards at 20% off) $224 -$28 cashback from AJ = $196 + $5 Total $201 (taxes will vary) ETA: On 2/16/17 I got lucky and ordered 3 8lb bottles of H4350 that were on sale for $203ea with shipping and mat total was $650-$130=$520 (from using 20% discount gift cards) $520- $37 (6% cash back at time of purchase) from Active Junky. Final delivered price was $483 for 3 $161 ea. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 6:46:47 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By buss45:
Yes, look for things on sale like the Nosler bullets. Combine it with Active junky 4% for ammo or 10% cash back for most items. There is also a 5% military discount for those that qualify. Forster Co-Ax Press is on sale for $280 final price after cash back would be $280-$56(gift cards at 20% off) $224 -$28 cashback from AJ = $196 + $5 Total $201 (taxes will vary) ETA: On 2/16/17 I got lucky and ordered 3 8lb bottles of H4350 that were on sale for $203ea with shipping and mat total was $650-$130=$520 (from using 20% discount gift cards) $520- $37 (6% cash back at time of purchase) from Active Junky. Final delivered price was $483 for 3 $161 ea. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By buss45:
Originally Posted By Defender3:
So, I consider Cabelas to be overpriced. Have you actually gotten any deals doing this? Forster Co-Ax Press is on sale for $280 final price after cash back would be $280-$56(gift cards at 20% off) $224 -$28 cashback from AJ = $196 + $5 Total $201 (taxes will vary) ETA: On 2/16/17 I got lucky and ordered 3 8lb bottles of H4350 that were on sale for $203ea with shipping and mat total was $650-$130=$520 (from using 20% discount gift cards) $520- $37 (6% cash back at time of purchase) from Active Junky. Final delivered price was $483 for 3 $161 ea. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 6:49:25 AM EDT
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Mark is a sneaky guy - take a look at this - I hadn't noticed it before I took the spring off to give the follower a really good cleaning. Kind of like a Easter Egg in software - Texas baby!
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Posted: 8/21/2017 11:50:38 AM EDT
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Thats cool
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IA, USA
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Posted: 8/21/2017 12:51:55 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Joshpuh:
It ejects to 1 o clock and is knicking my upper receiver, I also suspect it of loosening the primer pockets from unlocking too soon under pressure. Already have an 8.5 oz carbine buffer and orange sprinco spring and I can feel it slamming to the end of the buffer tube now. Clint at heavy buffers said if 16oz is too much we can remove weights from it. This is the third buffer and spring I've bought for it, I'm tired of spending money to make it do what I want so I'm going big so I can back off if need be. On a side note took my FIL out with it the other day who has never really shot any distance ever and he shot a 6" group with it at 800 yards. (To be fair he did miss with the first shot but I don't think he quite knew what to expect) after that it was hit after hit after hit. I made sure it was dialed correctly and he pulled the trigger. So she shoots amazing, she's just not a fan of the suppressor. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 1:40:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Joshpuh:
Sort of an update. Bought lapua brass and decided to take a piece and load it multiple times to see if the gun was loosening my primer pockets. After 3 loadings the primer practically fell in. I suspected the suppressor of being the problem so I took another piece and shot it without the can, so far it's made 6 loadings with very little sign of the primer pocket loosening. So hopefully the 16oz buffer really slows down the bolt unlocking and spares my brass otherwise I'm afraid the ol girl is gonna have to go to town, I can't afford a tranquilo or new brass every 3 firings. On a side note took my FIL out with it the other day who has never really shot any distance ever and he shot a 6" group with it at 800 yards. (To be fair he did miss with the first shot but I don't think he quite knew what to expect) after that it was hit after hit after hit. I made sure it was dialed correctly and he pulled the trigger. So she shoots amazing, she's just not a fan of the suppressor. |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 8/21/2017 2:20:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mettee:
An adjustable gas block might be a good idea as well, since over gas is the root of your issue. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 3:47:39 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Joshpuh:
Does anyone make an adjustable gas block that will line up correctly with the two gas ports in the Larue barrel? Then after that anything goes. As far as the ports I dont know what lines up on those. And I am unsure if there are two holes. D3 would know that I think. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 5:16:54 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mettee:
My first instinct is to contact LT and see if they will help with a solution. Then after that anything goes. As far as the ports I dont know what lines up on those. And I am unsure if there are two holes. D3 would know that I think.
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Posted: 8/21/2017 5:17:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
Mark is a sneaky guy - take a look at this - I hadn't noticed it before I took the spring off to give the follower a really good cleaning. Kind of like a Easter Egg in software - Texas baby! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG_5671-1_JPG-285716.jpg |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 8/21/2017 5:29:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
I'm no expert, but the problem only presents itself when he's shooting the Griffin RSTA, which is an over the barrel suppressor. It seems apparent the pressure in the Griffin isn't dissipating similar to other designs so the timing of the unlock is too fast and killing his brass. I'm not sure what the mothership could do absent what Josh is doing with the heavier buffer. Although, at 16oz, good luck getting that buffer to work unsuppressed.  LT said heavier buffer when I called them so this is the natural progression of things and my last ditch effort to make it run right. with the PST gas block design there are two smaller than standard gas ports, when you run in unsuppressed it utilizes both ports, when you switch to suppressed one hole is blocked thus reducing the gas by half(ish)
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Posted: 8/21/2017 5:46:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Joshpuh:
Who wants to shoot unsuppressed? LT said heavier buffer when I called them so this is the natural progression of things and my last ditch effort to make it run right. with the PST gas block design there are two smaller than standard gas ports, when you run in unsuppressed it utilizes both ports, when you switch to suppressed one hole is blocked thus reducing the gas by half(ish)It seems so crazy to have to run a pound buffer. I would tend to think that would trickle down and wear something else out. IF you have taken the PST apart, do you see an easy solution to reducing the gas? |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 5:48:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: LaRue_Tactical]
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
Mark is a sneaky guy - take a look at this - I hadn't noticed it before I took the spring off to give the follower a really good cleaning. Kind of like a Easter Egg in software - Texas baby! 
ETA - Defender, you just might be the first to have caught that little factoid imbedded into our followers. 
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IA, USA
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Posted: 8/21/2017 6:08:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mettee:
I have never taken the PST apart but I trust you. It seems so crazy to have to run a pound buffer. I would tend to think that would trickle down and wear something else out. IF you have taken the PST apart, do you see an easy solution to reducing the gas? A heavy buffer really should slow the cycling rate so I would think it would be better than a light one moving fast but I'm no doctor. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 7:30:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mettee]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Joshpuh:
I'm not sure if I need to heat up the screws to remove them but when I tried earlier all I did was twist my Allen wrench. A heavy buffer really should slow the cycling rate so I would think it would be better than a light one moving fast but I'm no doctor. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 8:11:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
ETA - Defender, you just might be the first to have caught that little factoid imbedded into our followers. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Originally Posted By Defender3:
Mark is a sneaky guy - take a look at this - I hadn't noticed it before I took the spring off to give the follower a really good cleaning. Kind of like a Easter Egg in software - Texas baby! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG_5671-1_JPG-285716.jpg
ETA - Defender, you just might be the first to have caught that little factoid imbedded into our followers. |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 8/21/2017 11:01:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
I'm going to give it until Thursday to see if we get any more takers. If not, I'm calling it Friday and will update here. We're still four short and no-one from the TX HTF has committed, so I think the outcome has been cast. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
Originally Posted By dHUTCH:
So....we gonna call this thing? If so I'm going to start looking at some LR classes here locally. |
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Posted: 8/23/2017 5:32:51 PM EDT
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Received some name tapes today for the data books.
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Posted: 8/23/2017 6:18:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
Received some name tapes today for the data books. [url]https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG_5718[1]_JPG-288393.jpg[/url] |
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Posted: 8/23/2017 7:06:50 PM EDT
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This is random, but anyone with a .260 also have a 14.5" 308 barrel cartridge swap out? Looking to possible pick up the .260 and then a 14.5" 308 cartridge and rail.
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