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Link Posted: 11/6/2008 12:27:56 AM EDT
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My Go Time Gear  has pretty much held true to their prices.  30 round pmags w/o window $14.20 each.  They are on back order but they communicate well.

Wideners Doesn't seem like they have changed their ammo prices at all.  But they are running out as well.  

Anyway, just trying to help everyone out.  Hope it does.


They raised the case price $15 on their Privi M193 and M855 and are now saying it's sold out. When they get more in, it will be $15 a case more.

Highly suspicious timing.




Great! I was gonna order 2,000 rounds from Wideners, but stupidly kept putting it off.

Link Posted: 11/6/2008 1:14:01 AM EDT
[#2]
Thanks for the info Evil.
Link Posted: 11/6/2008 1:31:30 AM EDT
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Thanks for the list.  Guys...consider this a consumer watchdog list.  No need to beat the guy up.

Fact is that some will milk the political situation.

BTW, there are NO FREE MARKETS anywhere.  Not even in the good old USA.

Some markets are freer than others to misquote Animal Farm.
Link Posted: 11/6/2008 1:37:06 AM EDT
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Looks like Brownells is GTG

May want to add them to Good Guys.
Link Posted: 11/6/2008 1:48:04 AM EDT
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My Go Time Gear  has pretty much held true to their prices.  30 round pmags w/o window $14.20 each.  They are on back order but they communicate well.

Wideners Doesn't seem like they have changed their ammo prices at all.  But they are running out as well.  

Anyway, just trying to help everyone out.  Hope it does.


They raised the case price $15 on their Privi M193 and M855 and are now saying it's sold out. When they get more in, it will be $15 a case more.

Highly suspicious timing.


As far as the M855 goes, I purchased 400 rounds (2 x 200) at the current price of $78/200 on October 22nd.  Still the same price.  As far as the 1000 round case, I don't remember exactly the cost then, as I only had $150ish to spend.

I'm pretty sure it was a bit cheaper before October 22nd compared to current prices and that's why I jumped on the 400 rounds when I did.  But as far as the post-election gouging goes, they haven't budged.

*shrugs*
Link Posted: 11/6/2008 2:37:55 AM EDT
[#6]
+1 on my go time gear. I ordered stuff on Friday night. Got a conformation that wasn't automated the next morning. Prices stayed the same.
Link Posted: 11/6/2008 3:28:27 AM EDT
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Bump to keep this on page ONE! This needs to be seen by every seller/dealer thinking about fucking over the very people that keep them in business.





Did Spikes jack their prices on everything? I thought they were good guys.
Link Posted: 11/6/2008 3:52:58 AM EDT
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Bump to keep this on page ONE! This needs to be seen by every seller/dealer thinking about fucking over the very people that keep them in business.





Did Spikes jack their prices on everything? I thought they were good guys.


Spikes is doing some Pre Obama Profiteering...  I'm hitting every list I can find w/ this.  They say they're "helping" gun owners.  I say they are SCREWING the hell out of everyone w/ fear tactics.  Spikes = Zumbo & Cooper
Link Posted: 11/6/2008 3:55:38 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/6/2008 4:01:43 AM EDT
[#10]
Cliff,
Thank you for not screwing us over.  You will definitely be getting my business in the future.
Link Posted: 11/6/2008 4:09:50 AM EDT
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My Go Time Gear  has pretty much held true to their prices.  30 round pmags w/o window $14.20 each.  They are on back order but they communicate well.

Wideners Doesn't seem like they have changed their ammo prices at all.  But they are running out as well.  

Anyway, just trying to help everyone out.  Hope it does.


They raised the case price $15 on their Privi M193 and M855 and are now saying it's sold out. When they get more in, it will be $15 a case more.

Highly suspicious timing.



FWIW,
I'm here to clarify that they must be speaking of Wideners.

We have only had 2 prices on XM193. One for a NVHTF group buy, and one after.
Second, we don't carry M855.


Thanks, Cliff @ Go Time Gear

Oh... PS... Ammo is nearly ALL out of stock from our distributors.
I went on to grab a few thousand rounds of CCI MiniMags .22LR........ even that is sold out! Yikes


Yes, just to clarify for Cliff, he was speaking of wideners.  I still support both.
Link Posted: 11/6/2008 4:11:31 AM EDT
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If anyone wants to list people in this thread who have good pricing the, by all means, list them.


MidwayUSA doesn't seem to have jacked up their prices overnight


Yep. I just placed an order with MidwayUSA for some powder. Their prices have not moved.  I love dealing with them.


Larry Potterfield is the man!

Link Posted: 11/6/2008 4:12:22 AM EDT
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I know for a fact that AMMOMAN was charging 209 per thousand for 762X39 last night, now it's 229. They were also charing 139 per 500 of 223...now it's 149...but it's still "on sale."


I can't say for a FACT what the prices were yesterday as I didn't look that closely but the first 4 items in the 7.62x39 section are all 209/1k as of 2 minutes ago

and as for the price increase to $149/500 for .223 that does seem suspicious as it's $269/1k which would be about their normal discount for the higher quantity if it was $139 for 500.  However even if the price did go up I wouldn't call that one item increase to be "gouging" based on the incredible volume of ammo sales going on right now.

Just saying maybe we need to check closely or wait for more than one report before putting someone on the "confirmed" list



Sorry, I wish I had my sales reciept from the other day, but I know I paid 209 and 259 per thousand of 762 and 233. And now it's 229 and 269. I understand ten bucks isn't much certainly this doesn't fall in the CTD catagory. Just saying prices did go up over night. Not sure how they stand with other brands.

Link Posted: 11/6/2008 4:43:10 AM EDT
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I just checked some ammo prices at Sportsman's Guide, and they don't appear to have gone up.


Yeah, but they probably raised their shipping costs 20% instead.  

Sorry, I never miss an opprotunity to bash SG on their shipping cost since they charged me $14 to ship a cartidge sized laser bore sighter that I could have drove down to their warehouse to pick up for a fraction of the cost.  The wife ordered it for my birthday once .... lesson learned.
Link Posted: 11/6/2008 5:11:07 AM EDT
[#15]
Thanks for a list of who to watch out for Evil.

Link Posted: 11/6/2008 5:39:47 AM EDT
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Let me see.....is CTD the world's sole retailer of G17 mags?  Vote with your damn mouse and wallet and don't buy from them if you don't like their "gouging."  We preach a lot of preparedness on this site, yet how many guys stepped up and bought the contingency items BEFORE the election?

I don't like price gouging either, but the writing was on the wall for weeks.  I took the appropriate actions over the past 2 years.

It's like the idiots who complained about gas stations on the Katrina evacuation path doubling their prices.  You know what?  It kept people who didn't need gas from "topping up" and creating ridiculous lines for those that truly needed the gas.  

I suspect that Noveske increased the prices of their lowers for similar reasons.

And you guys bash Obama for being a Marxist.
Link Posted: 11/6/2008 5:40:21 AM EDT
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I noticed Bud's gun shop just had the price on their stripped Double Star lowers go up $20.


They raised the SIG 556 Commando from $1430 something to $1930.  Now it is "Out Of Stock" so I will say that there is not much wrong with raising the price if you are cleaned out at the previous price.
Link Posted: 11/6/2008 5:53:17 AM EDT
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How do I order from C-products?


http://www.cproductsllc.com/


Put C-products on the good guy list.  Great company, good prices, and a great product.


Thanks for the link...ordered a 6.8 mag from them.
Link Posted: 11/6/2008 6:40:18 AM EDT
[#19]
List is current and verified to be accurate. Let me know of any errors.

Thanks to those of you providing links to the websites. It saves me googling time.

Not a lot of time to return IMs but I'm reading all of them and updating accordingly.

Thanks.
Link Posted: 11/6/2008 6:53:51 AM EDT
[#20]
BAD GUYS
Centerfiresystems.com

amd-65 from 349.99 to $499.99, WTF
Link Posted: 11/6/2008 6:59:31 AM EDT
[#21]
Add ApexODT to the good guys list.
Link Posted: 11/6/2008 7:20:33 AM EDT
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Where did Spike's call their customers retards?


The one and only badazzar15 (aka Spikes Tactical):

I just got this reply from TOM

Instant Messenger :: Message



Re: Now it makes sense


From : [ badazzar15 ] - [ 11/5/2008 5:07:10 PM CST ]

MY IM THIS EXPLAINS WHY YOU GUYS HAVE NOT BEEN RETURNING MY CALLS OR EMAILS FOR THE LAST WEEK... YOU KNEW IF YOU WAITED A COUPLE OF DAYS YOU COULD FUCK ME OVER ON THE PRICE... RRA HERE I COME


HIS REPLY We are slammed WTF are you talking about. If all the fucking Idiots didnt go crazy and panic we wouldnt have this problem retard.



So now he is calling all of us who are buying uppers "JUST IN CASE" IDIOTS. That makes great business sense.

Here:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=783114&page=7


Was there a screen shot produced of this IM?  It seems possible that someone could have fabricated it.

Don't be surprised if you get called an idiot or a retard when you curse at a vendor in an e-mail.  Professionalism counts, yes, but it varies.  They're not selling wine and jewelery.  If you act like an idiot, don't be surprised when you're called an idiot.

(In before someone calls ME an idiot.)  
Link Posted: 11/6/2008 7:27:56 AM EDT
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So...who's price gouging and how?

I'm making a list and checking it twice...

Verified Gougers

Buds Gun Shop

CDNN

Cheaper Than Dirt CTD has been the worst of the worst thus far...by far.

Cold War Shooters

Dynamic Armament

SOG Armory

Spikes Tactical


Suspected Gougers
Noveske rumored to have raised lower receiver prices $50 overnight.
Wideners rumored to be raising ammunition prices by $15 per case.

Good Guys
44Mag.Com
ADCO
AIM Surplus
Ammunition To Go
Area 51 Tactical
Bravo Company
Bright Flashlights
Brownells
Carricoz Armory
Conversion Caliber Supply
Copes Distributing
CDNN
Centerfire Systems
C Products
Del-Ton
Georgia Arms
Larue Tactical
Life, Liberty, Etc.
Midway USA
Midwest Industries
MilSurp Stuff
My Go Time Gear
Palmetto State Armory
PK Firearms
Sportsmans Guide
Tapco


Umm . . . CDNN is listed as both a good and bad guy.
Link Posted: 11/6/2008 7:36:22 AM EDT
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So...who's price gouging and how?

I'm making a list and checking it twice...

Verified Gougers

Buds Gun Shop

CDNN

Cheaper Than Dirt CTD has been the worst of the worst thus far...by far.

Cold War Shooters

Dynamic Armament

SOG Armory

Spikes Tactical


Suspected Gougers
Noveske rumored to have raised lower receiver prices $50 overnight.
Wideners rumored to be raising ammunition prices by $15 per case.

Good Guys
44Mag.Com
ADCO
AIM Surplus
Ammunition To Go
Area 51 Tactical
Bravo Company
Bright Flashlights
Brownells
Carricoz Armory
Conversion Caliber Supply
Copes Distributing
CDNN
Centerfire Systems
C Products
Del-Ton
Georgia Arms
Larue Tactical
Life, Liberty, Etc.
Midway USA
Midwest Industries
MilSurp Stuff
My Go Time Gear
Palmetto State Armory
PK Firearms
Sportsmans Guide
Tapco


Umm . . . CDNN is listed as both a good and bad guy.



Good find
Link Posted: 11/6/2008 7:51:10 AM EDT
[#25]
Thanks for making the list.
Link Posted: 11/6/2008 8:19:28 AM EDT
[#26]
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So...who's price gouging and how?

I'm making a list and checking it twice...

Verified Gougers

Buds Gun Shop

CDNN

Cheaper Than Dirt CTD has been the worst of the worst thus far...by far.

Cold War Shooters

Dynamic Armament

SOG Armory

Spikes Tactical


Suspected Gougers
Noveske rumored to have raised lower receiver prices $50 overnight.
Wideners rumored to be raising ammunition prices by $15 per case.

Good Guys
44Mag.Com
ADCO
AIM Surplus
Ammunition To Go
Area 51 Tactical
Bravo Company
Bright Flashlights
Brownells
Carricoz Armory
Conversion Caliber Supply
Copes Distributing
CDNN
Centerfire Systems
C Products
Del-Ton
Georgia Arms
Larue Tactical
Life, Liberty, Etc.
Midway USA
Midwest Industries
MilSurp Stuff
My Go Time Gear
Palmetto State Armory
PK Firearms
Sportsmans Guide
Tapco


Umm . . . CDNN is listed as both a good and bad guy.



They should stay in the "bad guys" category.

If for nothing else, they refuse to sell firearms and magazines (probably everything by now) to those of us in a "ban state" which ought to be real interesting to watch play out following the results of Tuesday night.
Link Posted: 11/6/2008 8:20:42 AM EDT
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Thanks for making the list.


Yes thanks!  It gives those who can't find shit in stock a place to go to get what they want.
Link Posted: 11/6/2008 8:20:57 AM EDT
[#28]
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So...who's price gouging and how?

I'm making a list and checking it twice...

Verified Gougers

Buds Gun Shop

CDNN

Cheaper Than Dirt CTD has been the worst of the worst thus far...by far.

Cold War Shooters

Dynamic Armament

SOG Armory

Spikes Tactical


Suspected Gougers
Noveske rumored to have raised lower receiver prices $50 overnight.
Wideners rumored to be raising ammunition prices by $15 per case.

Good Guys
44Mag.Com
ADCO
AIM Surplus
Ammunition To Go
Area 51 Tactical
Bravo Company
Bright Flashlights
Brownells
Carricoz Armory
Conversion Caliber Supply
Copes Distributing
CDNN
Centerfire Systems
C Products
Del-Ton
Georgia Arms
Larue Tactical
Life, Liberty, Etc.
Midway USA
Midwest Industries
MilSurp Stuff
My Go Time Gear
Palmetto State Armory
PK Firearms
Sportsmans Guide
Tapco


Umm . . . CDNN is listed as both a good and bad guy.



They should stay in the "bad guys" category.

If for nothing else, they refuse to sell firearms and magazines (probably everything by now) to those of us in a "ban state" which ought to be real interesting to watch play out following the results of Tuesday night.


Your mad because they won't violate the law? Seriously?
Link Posted: 11/6/2008 8:21:46 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/6/2008 8:24:02 AM EDT
[#30]
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So...who's price gouging and how?

I'm making a list and checking it twice...

Verified Gougers

Buds Gun Shop

CDNN

Cheaper Than Dirt CTD has been the worst of the worst thus far...by far.

Cold War Shooters

Dynamic Armament

SOG Armory

Spikes Tactical


Suspected Gougers
Noveske rumored to have raised lower receiver prices $50 overnight.
Wideners rumored to be raising ammunition prices by $15 per case.

Good Guys
44Mag.Com
ADCO
AIM Surplus
Ammunition To Go
Area 51 Tactical
Bravo Company
Bright Flashlights
Brownells
Carricoz Armory
Conversion Caliber Supply
Copes Distributing
CDNN
Centerfire Systems
C Products
Del-Ton
Georgia Arms
Larue Tactical
Life, Liberty, Etc.
Midway USA
Midwest Industries
MilSurp Stuff
My Go Time Gear
Palmetto State Armory
PK Firearms
Sportsmans Guide
Tapco


Umm . . . CDNN is listed as both a good and bad guy.



They should stay in the "bad guys" category.

If for nothing else, they refuse to sell firearms and magazines (probably everything by now) to those of us in a "ban state" which ought to be real interesting to watch play out following the results of Tuesday night.


Your mad because they won't violate the law? Seriously?


Its not against the law to ship firearms and magazines to NY. Seriously.

ETA: I just realized that your in one of those "blue states" too. It probably wont be long before the refuse to ship to you....

Link Posted: 11/6/2008 8:26:47 AM EDT
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I just ordered a half pallet of G3/HK-91 magazines.

I got them cheaper, so I also just lowered my price on them. Down from $4.00 each for used 20 round aluminum mags to $2.35 each. New ones will be $4.50 once I get them in.

I am all for the free market, and won't condemn those who raised prices. That is their right as a merchant.

Instead, I will just lower mine and take all the money. Chess, not checkers baby.

I really need to get myself a PTR-91 to take advantage of all these cheap mags.


It'd help if you'd say what you run. I need some of those mags
Link Posted: 11/6/2008 8:29:09 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/6/2008 8:32:24 AM EDT
[#33]
Can we add Natchez Shooters Supplies to the good list. Their Glock mags are on sale right now. Some are out of stock but the one's they have are still on sale. I placed an order and it shipped a day later.  I'll do business with them again.

Freedom
Link Posted: 11/6/2008 8:38:50 AM EDT
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I recommend aim surplus.  I only recently bought 10 mags from them, but they've held their price.  Going to be getting a receiver and some more mags very soon.  Buds gun shop is where I got my first receiver and they can go fuck themselves.
Link Posted: 11/6/2008 8:44:02 AM EDT
[#35]
TAG

Thanks for updating OP, i'll be watching this. It's their right to raise prices, but i'll let my wallet do the talking.
Link Posted: 11/6/2008 8:48:20 AM EDT
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So...who's price gouging and how?

I'm making a list and checking it twice...

Verified Gougers

Buds Gun Shop

CDNN

Cheaper Than Dirt CTD has been the worst of the worst thus far...by far.

Cold War Shooters

Dynamic Armament

SOG Armory

Spikes Tactical


Suspected Gougers
Noveske rumored to have raised lower receiver prices $50 overnight.
Wideners rumored to be raising ammunition prices by $15 per case.

Good Guys
44Mag.Com
ADCO
AIM Surplus
Ammunition To Go
Area 51 Tactical
Bravo Company
Bright Flashlights
Brownells
Carricoz Armory
Conversion Caliber Supply
Copes Distributing
CDNN
Centerfire Systems
C Products
Del-Ton
Georgia Arms
Larue Tactical
Life, Liberty, Etc.
Midway USA
Midwest Industries
MilSurp Stuff
My Go Time Gear
Palmetto State Armory
PK Firearms
Sportsmans Guide
Tapco


Umm . . . CDNN is listed as both a good and bad guy.



They should stay in the "bad guys" category.

If for nothing else, they refuse to sell firearms and magazines (probably everything by now) to those of us in a "ban state" which ought to be real interesting to watch play out following the results of Tuesday night.


Your mad because they won't violate the law? Seriously?



You FAIL, miserably, like going mach 2 with toilet paper sticking out of your pants while on fire FAIL.

They won't sell 1960-1970's manufactured HK G3 Magazines, ditto FAL mags, AK mags and others that were freely sold during the Fed AWB as it was clearly understood by everyone, including the damned BATFE, that the mags in question were PRE-BAN, thus legal to sell. They won't ship/sell preban mags to us in NY State even though it is 100% free, clear and legal. Fuck them.
Link Posted: 11/6/2008 9:03:00 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/6/2008 9:06:27 AM EDT
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Rainier is good to go from what I can see. I don't see any price increases.


A big plus 1 for Rainier. I have used them quite a bit and if you call them with any questions they are very helpful.

Link Posted: 11/6/2008 9:07:56 AM EDT
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Question for OP:  Have you caught any shit from industry people for doing this?  Just curious.
Link Posted: 11/6/2008 9:08:49 AM EDT
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You FAIL, miserably, like going mach 2 with toilet paper sticking out of your pants while on fire FAIL.

They won't sell 1960-1970's manufactured HK G3 Magazines, ditto FAL mags, AK mags and others that were freely sold during the Fed AWB as it was clearly understood by everyone, including the damned BATFE, that the mags in question were PRE-BAN, thus legal to sell. They won't ship/sell preban mags to us in NY State even though it is 100% free, clear and legal. Fuck them.


I gladly sell pre-ban HK Mags to NY state.





Thank you!

I picked up some TRU-SPEC multi-cam gear from you last week, I didnt even see magazines. I might just have to put in another order

Link Posted: 11/6/2008 9:10:13 AM EDT
[#41]
Updated.

Thanks for catching the CDNN thing. Not sure how I fucked that one up.
Link Posted: 11/6/2008 9:10:47 AM EDT
[#42]
When demand increases, prices naturally follow.  This is a basic economic principle.  If you don't like the price, don't buy it. Frankly, I am amazed that so many of you were crying about Obama being president, and now you are voicing the same type of notions that he does (i.e., "gouging")

Seems like some of you need an education past the 8th grade.
Link Posted: 11/6/2008 9:14:34 AM EDT
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Thanks for making the list.


Yes thanks!  It gives those who can't find shit in stock a place to go to get what they want.


When all of the "cheap" places run out early, the "expensive places will have a captive market, no?
Link Posted: 11/6/2008 9:16:00 AM EDT
[#44]
Wideners has had comments on the Prvi for months and months that they would have to raise prices.  So after waiting months and months they raise the price a tiny bit and somehow that's gouging?  That's a nice welcome for a new sponsor.

The price of the M-193 200 round packs was $71.  Now it's $73. Let me see $2 times 5 per case would be $10, not $15.  Also it is in stock.  So Mattja fails.

I really don't see what the whining is about.

They did have a limited quantity sale going for $350 shipped.  When that quantity ran out on election night they extended the sale, adding more at the sale price.  That ran out soon afterwards.  People fucked around until well after the election was over to order and they missed out on the sale.  Boo-fuckin-hoo.

I give them bonus points for extending the sale when they sure as hell didn't need to.  They will sell every last round at whatever price they want.  

I'll be happy to buy from them.  I'd recommend putting them in the good guys list.
Link Posted: 11/6/2008 9:21:43 AM EDT
[#45]
I just picked up two uppers from Midwest Indistries and thanked them for not raising the prices to capitilize on peoples fear. The woman I spoke to thanked me and promised they will only raise prices when they are raised by the distributers first. Thank you Midwest Indistries.

Cliff,
Thank you for not screwing us over. You will definitely be getting my business in the future.


I love the customer service at Gotimegear. They are on the top of my list for sure.
Link Posted: 11/6/2008 9:23:11 AM EDT
[#46]
Link Posted: 11/6/2008 9:29:40 AM EDT
[#47]
those looking for an alternative to spikes for 22 setup,

here you go for the ciener kit and mags:
http://www.operationparts.com/22LR_Conversion_Kits_Magazines_s/31.htm
Link Posted: 11/6/2008 9:40:07 AM EDT
[#48]
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BAD GUYS
Centerfiresystems.com

amd-65 from 349.99 to $499.99, WTF


Seems like it, I was going to go over and pick up something (had planned it anyway).
The lower receivers are still 100 bucks if they have any ( I doubt they do).

centerfire systems

Link Posted: 11/6/2008 9:40:18 AM EDT
[#49]
Add Bass Pro Shops to the good guy list. I just picked up a 500rd case of 9mm UMC for on sale $99 at the local store.
Link Posted: 11/6/2008 9:51:33 AM EDT
[#50]
You can add Noveske to the list. Ordered a new upper from them a week ago for $1399.95. I saw this thread and went back to their site to check and it is now $1475.00.
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