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Originally Posted By PSYWAR1-0: The Recce platform was something that sprung up within the NSW and 5th SFG communities that first became the Special Purpose Receiver built by Crane, which was supposed to be installed on any M4 lower. After a time when the perfect storm of the users wanting a match-grade trigger and the bolt-bounce issue was identified, the Special Purpose Receiver morphed into a complete rifle that was type-classified as the Mk12. Mk12: A BRIEF HISTORY (as authored by "LGT" & "FL") Mk12 Special Purpose Rifle (SPR) Scoped versions of the M16 rifle existed as far back as the 1960s. Like nearly all historic military rifles, the M16 went through decades of efforts to improve its accuracy, both in the military and civilian marksmanship communities. The need for the SPR dates back to the late 1980s and early 1990s when the 7.62mm M21 sniper rifle, a semi-automatic weapon of Vietnam vintage, was replaced by the M24 sniper rifle, a bolt action weapon. The M24 was originally specified to be a .300 Winchester Magnum, but the Army decided to field it in 7.62 NATO for a variety of economic reasons. This left the M24 in the unenviable position of being the worst of both worlds in the eyes of snipers at the time, since it lost the fast-shooing, semiautomatic capability of the M21, but did not gain the range advantage of the .300WM. This compromise left a vacant requirement for a fast-shooting semi-automatic sniper rifle. This need was most apparent in the US Army Special Forces (SF) community, since the other commands within the Special Operations Forces structure filled that need with Knights Armament Corporation's SR-25 sniper rifle. Army SF, being prohibited by its leadership from procuring the SR-25, sought the next best alternative, namely a Special Purpose Receiver (SPR) kit to convert the Army SF M4 carbines into highly accurate rifles. In late 1998, at the request of SFC Steve Holland of 5th Special Forces Group, and the approval of the SOPMOD joint IPT, the Special Operations Peculiar Modifications (SOPMOD) Program Manager, Troy Smith, authorized the purchase of 5 sets of commercial items as an SPR experiment. The original requirement was for USASOC, mainly the SF Groups, as WARCOM had the MK11, 7.62mm system. Once the SPR requirement was developed and demonstrated through experimentation, most of the other commands in USSOCOM added themselves to the Basis of Issue Plan (BOIP). The USSOCOM requirement for the SPR, with improved ammunition, was approved in July 1999, as part of the SOPMOD Kit, Operational Requirements Document, Version 5 (ORD 5). Further initial development included several variants of the SPR and new ammunition that were compatible with the M4 carbine's lower receiver. It was found that standard issue M855 5.56mm ammunition was not consistent enough to meet the requirement. In 2000, based on an upgrade requirement to provide a match-grade trigger to the design, Mr. Paul Miller, the SPR project manager, discovered an opportunity to pick through over 15,000 M16A1s that had been sent to Crane for destruction. Realizing that these M16A1 rifles, some of which were virtually new, could be used as "free lumber" to build full SPR weapons, Paul selected several thousand rifles to be set aside for the new SPR project. The SPR underwent a minor but significant name change, with the R having originally stood for "Receiver" now standing for "Rifle" The new weapon system was worthless without a matching round of ammunition to obtain the performance required. The PEO-SP USSOCOM authorized the new round that became Mk262 as part of the Mk12 system in August 2000. Paul Miller and his SPR team refined the 77-grain prototype ammunition and built approximately 124 SPR Rifles in the summer of 2001. These were finished just in time to ship out to Army SF in late October 2001, to be used in the first invasion of Afghanistan. The SPR rifles were extremely well-received, and the SOF combat units ordered hundreds more. In May 2002, USSOCOM removed the Mk12 and other complete weapons projects from the SOPMOD Program and placed them under the newly-formed USSOCOM Weapons Program. The fielded weapons included two versions (Mk12 Special Purpose Rifle Mod0 and Mod1). Fielding has since been structured for Mk12 Mod1 Special Purpose Rifle only. This rifle is used by Joint USSOCOM Commands and the USMC in combination with M262 (AA53, 77 grain) ammunition. Formal fielding of the full-rate production version of the Mk12 rifle and ammunition occurred in May 2003 and was completed in FY '04. In 2012, as the decade of war on terrorism was winding down and the SCAR weapon system began replacing the requirement for the Mk12, USSOCOM and Naval Special Warfare divested themselves of the Mk12 weapons system, and the Mk12 is now being looked at to fill a Designated Marksman Role within Brown Water Navy commands. View Quote * * * * * * * * * * The following parts lists and substitution parts was compiled by lancecriminal86 over the course of a LOT of research. Read up and pay attention! Below are the 100% .mil-spec parts lists to build a true SPR or Mk12 clone. Some of these parts are no longer manufactured and will require much effort and money to locate through forums and online brokers. Keep in mind the rifles were built off donor M16A1s, hence the prevalent A1 parts in the lower receivers and the BCGs. They were also first configured using parts available from 1998-2004, and most are inferior in some ways to newer designs. If this bothers you too much, STOP NOW. The rifles were issued as a kit in a Pelican 1700 case with cutouts. The kits included the rifle with suppressor, optic, bipod, an Eagle TAS-1 UMSS sling (unobtanium and also absolute crap), with a Dewey 1-piece cleaning rod plus Otis cleaning kit, and a cutout for magazines. An operator's manual was also included, however these have not been officially released for public consumption. However, the manuals are out there, and some companies building Mk12 uppers include one. Whether these are official .mil operator's manuals or specially made is currently unclear as the manual itself still contains language that it is not for distribution. - Alternate .mil-spec parts due to NFA, NLA parts, or changes in name/markings for current production in [brackets] - Extra notes about parts or availability are in (parenthesis) LOWER Lower receivers were standard across the SPR/Mk12 variants and the only variations would be between grips, stocks, and buffers. Most were marked either Colt or GM Hydramatic. All other parts were the same in regards to the lower parts. One caveat is the trigger, as the program originally selected the Knight's Armament 2-stage Full Auto Match trigger. Later on, some issues regarding negligent discharges occurred, and Geissele SSF triggers ultimately found their way into the Mk12 family. Whether 100% of all Mk12s eventually received the Geissele trigger isn't clear, so either is acceptable.
The upper receivers, which ultimately differentiate the four variants of the Mk12, have the most variation between each other. Early SPR/Mod0
ModH, Mod "Holland"
Naturally, once these rifles were issued to units, operators and even Marines used various non-issued parts. Here is a short summary of what has been seen: Early SPR/Mod0: Both Leupold 3.5-10x40mm and 3-9x36mm scopes have been used. Many have had carbine stocks like the old CAR-style, enhanced M4, SOPMOD Gen I, or even the Tactical DuoStock swapped on. Mod1: One 3rd SFG-issued rifle pictured with SSgt Robert J. Miller (MoH recipient) used an A.R.M.S #36 S-EX 5.56mm rail, and a Leupold M3X 10x fixed-power scope, possibly pulled from an M-24 or SR-25 rifle. Another has been seen with a Magpul PRS, LaRue mount, and a Premier Reticles 3-15x used by an AMU shooter, and a similar rifle was pictured on a FOB in a very posed-looking photo. Further, a USMC-issued Mod1 was seen using #22 Medium rings instead of High rings, and a LaRue mount has been spotted as well. Grips have varied from the usual A1, A2, and ERGO, and at least one Magpul MIAD has been used. As with the Mod0s, carbine stocks like the SOPMOD and M4 have been used on Mod1s. ModH: The Mod "Holland" was already a small-batch configuration, but even as soon as they were issued to 5th SFG units, some Ace SOCOM stocks were replaced with Magpul ACS and CTR stocks. Optics are basically anything existing in the unit's inventory, from S&B ShortDots still in the system, the 3-9x and 3.5-10x Leupold scopes from earlier Mod0s, and there's even a photo of an ELCAN on a Mod1 floating around. No non-magnified optics like EOTechs or regular Aimpoint M2/M4s, but Micros have been seen on offset mounts. Backup iron sights, as a whole, were almost entirely left unmounted. Grips were again the same usual selection. Parts Alternatives for Clone Building Many parts are rare, expensive, and/or both. Despite this, there are some alternatives to a 100% pure clone that will still provide the same visual look and performance. While not a museum-grade clone, most would be hard-pressed to discern the difference. Just know there are those of us out there that will haze and peer-pressure you into further moving your build towards a true clone. Barrel: Popular options are the White Oak Armament SPR barrel (rifle gas), BCM's SPR barrel, Rainier's Match and Ultramatch offerings (ensure it's the SPR contour with 12th Model profile), Ballistic Advantage's SPR barrel. Compass Lake Engineering can also spin a Mk12 profiled barrel with a Criterion chrome-lined blank, or even a Krieger, which was one of the original contenders for the program. The DPMS Mk12 barrels are NOT properly profiled for a clone. Optics & Rings: In the case of the Leupold 3-9x or 3.5-10x, it's generally okay to go for a non-illuminated version of either, sometimes with M1 or other turrets and reticles. As far as the NightForce scope, the 2.5-10x24mm is not generally released to the public anymore (with one recent exception through Sniper's Hide), so many use the 32mm or even 42mm versions with the #22 High rings. As for the rings, any of the recent produced A.R.M.S. #22s with the lever-stop humps are functionally the same, the desire for non-lever-stops is purely aesthetic when going for the most authentic look. As LaRue LT-104s have been seen in use, it is justifiable to use one depending on whether you have a specific rifle you want to copy, or even just if you absolutely cannot acquire #22 High rings. A.R.M.S. #38 SWAN Sleeve: The #38 family of sleeves are no longer available. Finding them secondhand usually cost $250-$300 easy, more for rarer early variants. Fortunately, PRi's copies of the sleeves look and function almost identically, with minor visual differences. PRi and other builders supply these currently for complete Mod0 builds. FSB: While the set-screw version of PRi's FSB is spec, most use the cross-bolt, clamp-style version. They are extremely robust, and when aligned and torqued, have been shown to hold strong enough that you'll probably shear your barrel extension pin or upper before it budges. This is mainly how Mod0 uppers are supplied by most vendors, including PRi themselves. Suppressor, Brake/Collar: Diverging from the OPS Inc. or AEM brake and collar will get you MAJOR flak. Trust me, I've been running an AAC SPR/M4 for years now and it took a LONG time to not get clubbed every time I posted it. The Allen Engineering AEM5 is basically the current production of the OPS Inc. 12th Model, as they were originally made by Ron Allen and his team in the first place. Only minor differences separate original OPS Inc. cans from AE cans, and these are only obvious to trained eyes. As far as the rest, you can swap Colt parts out for any other .mil-spec parts, like BCM, DD, CMT, etc. Any billet uppers/lowers, funky BCG coatings, extended bolt releases, etc. are extremely frowned upon. Remember, once you start going down the path of building a "better" rifle rather than what was spec, you're quickly beyond clone territory and would have been better off building a custom 16" or 20" rifle. Cloning is generally viewed as all-in or not at all. * * * * * * * * * * Complete Mk12 Mod0 / Mod1 Uppers Bravo Company Manufacturing High Caliber Sales Precision Reflex Inc. Specific Mk12 Tech Augee's side-by-side comparison of the original ARMS SWAN Sleeve and PRI reproduction PEQ Sleeves: bottom of p136 KOBK's side-by-side comparison of PRI Gen I, II, and III handguards, and Gen I and Gen II FSBs, and SWANs: middle of p137 Augee's Mod1 gas block tech: top half of p357 Glass1's Early Mod0 photo breakdown: middle of p449 tamboi's Leupold Vari-X, TS30, and TS30A2 scope history/lineage, and part numbers, p.792 * * * * * * * * * * As of 16 May 2024, Ron Allen is still making custom parts for his suppressors: View Quote * * * * * * * * * * Attached File |
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
All this paint talk is making me miss the pinestraw already. <a href="http://s1008.photobucket.com/user/secretwheelman/media/100_1012_zpsfdbd6531.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af204/secretwheelman/100_1012_zpsfdbd6531.jpg</a> <a href="https://flic.kr/p/vw7emK" target="_blank">https://farm1.staticflickr.com/507/19375056759_2e453a8a96_o.jpg</a> View Quote My favorite paint job hands down. Hats off my man. |
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Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:
It will only stick to mil-spec uppers and lowers View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:
Originally Posted By chenault:
Originally Posted By GuynamedDave:
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Originally Posted By GuynamedDave:
So just FYI Brownells Alumahyde 2 is roughly as durable as spray paint. Everything scrapes it off. http://<a href=http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u510/davegibbs45/81A7105C-67D0-4722-AB77-BAC61643105B.jpg</a>" /> Did you prep the surface before spraying and let it fully cure? If I remember right the longer Aluma-Hyde cures the harder it gets I did. Degreased everything, then rubbing alcohol. Sprayed multiple light coats, let it set, then baked at 175 for 2 hours. Then set for several days in garage in Texas spring heat (80-85 12 hours a day). It's been 9 days for the rifle and less for the accessories but long enough to harden. It doesn't scratch with a fingernail but the lower has had nicks and dings from hitting the workbench and inserting mags. Sounds like you did everything correctly. Huh I would of thought that it would of been tougher than that It will only stick to mil-spec uppers and lowers That sucks, cuz I like the gun the way it is and won't be changing them |
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Originally Posted By outlaw7:
Wasn't sure if this belonged in the mk12 thread or Reece thread. Kinda neither, but kinda both. Anyways... <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/mrwhite182/media/20160517_123418_zpsq7njh57l.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v633/mrwhite182/20160517_123418_zpsq7njh57l.jpg</a> View Quote That's sexy |
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Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:
It will only stick to mil-spec uppers and lowers View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:
Originally Posted By chenault:
Originally Posted By GuynamedDave:
Originally Posted By chenault:
Originally Posted By GuynamedDave:
So just FYI Brownells Alumahyde 2 is roughly as durable as spray paint. Everything scrapes it off. http://<a href=http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u510/davegibbs45/81A7105C-67D0-4722-AB77-BAC61643105B.jpg</a>" /> Did you prep the surface before spraying and let it fully cure? If I remember right the longer Aluma-Hyde cures the harder it gets I did. Degreased everything, then rubbing alcohol. Sprayed multiple light coats, let it set, then baked at 175 for 2 hours. Then set for several days in garage in Texas spring heat (80-85 12 hours a day). It's been 9 days for the rifle and less for the accessories but long enough to harden. It doesn't scratch with a fingernail but the lower has had nicks and dings from hitting the workbench and inserting mags. Sounds like you did everything correctly. Huh I would of thought that it would of been tougher than that It will only stick to mil-spec uppers and lowers Oh shit shots fired |
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Well damn, thanks to this thread I have now ordered an AEM5 suppressor and a Brownells BRN-16A1 lower. It has begun, thanks…
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Originally Posted By dangerdan: I've tried to replicate my old pine straw job...it's hard http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/101_0026.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/CB14DCC7-7398-4515-83E9-18E2BA96632E_zpsq3pwlzdi.jpg And again on the tripod http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/20151116_123428_zpsph2w1emx.jpg View Quote These were painted about 8 months apart. |
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Originally Posted By Outrider:
Good start. This thread cost me both of those items and I don't even have a MK12. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Outrider:
Originally Posted By davekeller:
Well damn, thanks to this thread I have now ordered an AEM5 suppressor and a Brownells BRN-16A1 lower. It has begun, thanks… Good start. This thread cost me both of those items and I don't even have a MK12. Ha nice! I plan on doing a Mod 0 build with the PRI upper. I'll start with the upper and run it off of my DDMK18 lower for now since I can't have an upper sitting around without shooting it, so I can start putting that lower together over time. I'm on the fence for getting a MK4 or the NightForce 2.5-10x24. I do like the way the MK4 looks on the rifle compared to the NF but that glass is pretty slick. |
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Originally Posted By davekeller:
Ha nice! I plan on doing a Mod 0 build with the PRI upper. I'll start with the upper and run it off of my DDMK18 lower for now since I can't have an upper sitting around without shooting it, so I can start putting that lower together over time. I'm on the fence for getting a MK4 or the NightForce 2.5-10x24. I do like the way the MK4 looks on the rifle compared to the NF but that glass is pretty slick. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By davekeller:
Originally Posted By Outrider:
Originally Posted By davekeller:
Well damn, thanks to this thread I have now ordered an AEM5 suppressor and a Brownells BRN-16A1 lower. It has begun, thanks… Good start. This thread cost me both of those items and I don't even have a MK12. Ha nice! I plan on doing a Mod 0 build with the PRI upper. I'll start with the upper and run it off of my DDMK18 lower for now since I can't have an upper sitting around without shooting it, so I can start putting that lower together over time. I'm on the fence for getting a MK4 or the NightForce 2.5-10x24. I do like the way the MK4 looks on the rifle compared to the NF but that glass is pretty slick. MK 4 is the only correct glass and since you're going to have a pretty sweet mod 0, got for the luppy! |
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Originally Posted By Outrider: Good start. This thread cost me both of those items and I don't even have a MK12. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Outrider: Originally Posted By davekeller: Well damn, thanks to this thread I have now ordered an AEM5 suppressor and a Brownells BRN-16A1 lower. It has begun, thanks… Good start. This thread cost me both of those items and I don't even have a MK12. I was planning on using my M4 Carbine LE lower, but if the Brownells BRN-16A1 is correct I will go ahead and pick one up - assuming it will work with an Cold SP63528 M4 upper? The Description seems to indicate so. |
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
I've gotten close, but it's always been slightly off. These were painted about 8 months apart. <a href="http://s1008.photobucket.com/user/secretwheelman/media/100_0646_zpsad65a350.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af204/secretwheelman/100_0646_zpsad65a350.jpg</a> View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
I've tried to replicate my old pine straw job...it's hard http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/101_0026.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/CB14DCC7-7398-4515-83E9-18E2BA96632E_zpsq3pwlzdi.jpg And again on the tripod http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/20151116_123428_zpsph2w1emx.jpg These were painted about 8 months apart. <a href="http://s1008.photobucket.com/user/secretwheelman/media/100_0646_zpsad65a350.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af204/secretwheelman/100_0646_zpsad65a350.jpg</a> I can't get enough of that paint. It looks awesome on everything. |
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Does anyone know if the 16" BA SPR barrel BABL223017P is contoured for the ops collar and brake? I want to use that barrel for the MOD-H. The description doesn't say. I assume SPR means it is but I need to be sure.
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
I've gotten close, but it's always been slightly off. These were painted about 8 months apart. <a href="http://s1008.photobucket.com/user/secretwheelman/media/100_0646_zpsad65a350.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af204/secretwheelman/100_0646_zpsad65a350.jpg</a> View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
I've tried to replicate my old pine straw job...it's hard http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/101_0026.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/CB14DCC7-7398-4515-83E9-18E2BA96632E_zpsq3pwlzdi.jpg And again on the tripod http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/20151116_123428_zpsph2w1emx.jpg These were painted about 8 months apart. <a href="http://s1008.photobucket.com/user/secretwheelman/media/100_0646_zpsad65a350.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af204/secretwheelman/100_0646_zpsad65a350.jpg</a> Are there guides on how to have amazing paint jobs like this?? |
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Originally Posted By Johnson184: Are there guides on how to have amazing paint jobs like this?? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Johnson184: Originally Posted By secretwheelman: Originally Posted By dangerdan: I've tried to replicate my old pine straw job...it's hard http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/101_0026.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/CB14DCC7-7398-4515-83E9-18E2BA96632E_zpsq3pwlzdi.jpg And again on the tripod http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/20151116_123428_zpsph2w1emx.jpg These were painted about 8 months apart. <a href="http://s1008.photobucket.com/user/secretwheelman/media/100_0646_zpsad65a350.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af204/secretwheelman/100_0646_zpsad65a350.jpg</a> Are there guides on how to have amazing paint jobs like this?? Also, it was dark by the time UPS got here, so here's a shitty-pictured update from the bench. The SOCOM is surprisingly solid. All I need know is another clear day to sling some paint, and an ATLAS. (If anyone has one they don't need, let me know) |
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman: I'll sit down and write something just for you guys. Also, it was dark by the time UPS got here, so here's a shitty-pictured update from the bench. https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7555/26987745262_f2e31b3e23_o.jpg The SOCOM is surprisingly solid. All I need know is another clear day to sling some paint, and an ATLAS. (If anyone has one they don't need, let me know) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By secretwheelman: Originally Posted By Johnson184: Originally Posted By secretwheelman: Originally Posted By dangerdan: I've tried to replicate my old pine straw job...it's hard http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/101_0026.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/CB14DCC7-7398-4515-83E9-18E2BA96632E_zpsq3pwlzdi.jpg And again on the tripod http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/20151116_123428_zpsph2w1emx.jpg These were painted about 8 months apart. <a href="http://s1008.photobucket.com/user/secretwheelman/media/100_0646_zpsad65a350.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af204/secretwheelman/100_0646_zpsad65a350.jpg</a> Are there guides on how to have amazing paint jobs like this?? Also, it was dark by the time UPS got here, so here's a shitty-pictured update from the bench. https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7555/26987745262_f2e31b3e23_o.jpg The SOCOM is surprisingly solid. All I need know is another clear day to sling some paint, and an ATLAS. (If anyone has one they don't need, let me know) Looks great! |
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So, if, I have a Leupold mark 4 2.5-8X36 illuminated scope with TMR, m2 turrets, Will someone trade me straight for early mod 0 parts? (fsb, tube and arms rail) or maybe a set of gen3 mod 0 parts with correct arms #38.
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
Does anyone know if the 16" BA SPR barrel BABL223017P is contoured for the ops collar and brake? I want to use that barrel for the MOD-H. The description doesn't say. I assume SPR means it is but I need to be sure. View Quote Nope... only the 16" stainless gov profile with ops contour is ready for collar. |
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Originally Posted By dangerdan:
I've tried to replicate my old pine straw job...it's hard <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ermey/media/Guns/101_0026.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/101_0026.jpg</a> <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ermey/media/Guns/CB14DCC7-7398-4515-83E9-18E2BA96632E_zpsq3pwlzdi.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/CB14DCC7-7398-4515-83E9-18E2BA96632E_zpsq3pwlzdi.jpg</a> And again on the tripod <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ermey/media/Guns/20151116_123428_zpsph2w1emx.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/20151116_123428_zpsph2w1emx.jpg</a> View Quote Hey Dan, care to share the details on your tripod and hawg/pig saddle set up? |
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Originally Posted By ShaneWang: So, if, I have a Leupold mark 4 2.5-8X36 illuminated scope with TMR, m2 turrets, Will someone trade me straight for early mod 0 parts? (fsb, tube and arms rail) or maybe a set of gen3 mod 0 parts with correct arms #38. and picture thread http://<a href=http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu229/falconzllx/400977593_zpstxzru8ic.jpg</a>" /> View Quote |
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Originally Posted By ShaneWang:
So, if, I have a Leupold mark 4 2.5-8X36 illuminated scope with TMR, m2 turrets, Will someone trade me straight for early mod 0 parts? (fsb, tube and arms rail) or maybe a set of gen3 mod 0 parts with correct arms #38. and picture thread http://<a href=http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu229/falconzllx/400977593_zpstxzru8ic.jpg</a>" /> View Quote I think your current setup is pretty slick. I understand that itch though. |
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
Does anyone know if the 16" BA SPR barrel BABL223017P is contoured for the ops collar and brake? I want to use that barrel for the MOD-H. The description doesn't say. I assume SPR means it is but I need to be sure. View Quote This is what you seek. |
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Originally Posted By Johnson184:
Are there guides on how to have amazing paint jobs like this?? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Johnson184:
Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
I've tried to replicate my old pine straw job...it's hard http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/101_0026.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/CB14DCC7-7398-4515-83E9-18E2BA96632E_zpsq3pwlzdi.jpg And again on the tripod http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/20151116_123428_zpsph2w1emx.jpg These were painted about 8 months apart. <a href="http://s1008.photobucket.com/user/secretwheelman/media/100_0646_zpsad65a350.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af204/secretwheelman/100_0646_zpsad65a350.jpg</a> Are there guides on how to have amazing paint jobs like this?? Here's one. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_19/214547_Pinestraw_strikes_again___now_with_brief_TUTORIAL_.html |
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OEF 10-11
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ATLAS should be here next week.
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"Not proud of everything I've done, but at least you know I did it well."
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Originally Posted By TexasTerror:
Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
Does anyone know if the 16" BA SPR barrel BABL223017P is contoured for the ops collar and brake? I want to use that barrel for the MOD-H. The description doesn't say. I assume SPR means it is but I need to be sure. This is what you seek. Doesn't bison armory make a 16" SPR profiled barrel with the correct ops Inc shelf? |
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Please excuse my ways. Iraq Veteran. 45B.
Originally Posted By DangerJ: Pentagon should troll back, hit a few camps with drone strikes, then tag the coordinates in a post with #LOL |
Originally Posted By ARdvark:
Do anyone else's brake and collar have a almost bronze color to them? Got mine from BCM, had all the paperwork and info from ops inc...but just a funny color. see below. http://i.imgur.com/SYT3uRV.jpg View Quote Of all the 'black' parts on mine there's no less than 5 shades of funky colors that show up in photos. |
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
I'll sit down and write something just for you guys. Also, it was dark by the time UPS got here, so here's a shitty-pictured update from the bench. <a href="https://flic.kr/p/H7PfqN" target="_blank">https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7555/26987745262_f2e31b3e23_o.jpg</a> The SOCOM is surprisingly solid. All I need know is another clear day to sling some paint, and an ATLAS. (If anyone has one they don't need, let me know) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By Johnson184:
Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
I've tried to replicate my old pine straw job...it's hard http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/101_0026.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/CB14DCC7-7398-4515-83E9-18E2BA96632E_zpsq3pwlzdi.jpg And again on the tripod http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/20151116_123428_zpsph2w1emx.jpg These were painted about 8 months apart. <a href="http://s1008.photobucket.com/user/secretwheelman/media/100_0646_zpsad65a350.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af204/secretwheelman/100_0646_zpsad65a350.jpg</a> Are there guides on how to have amazing paint jobs like this?? Also, it was dark by the time UPS got here, so here's a shitty-pictured update from the bench. <a href="https://flic.kr/p/H7PfqN" target="_blank">https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7555/26987745262_f2e31b3e23_o.jpg</a> The SOCOM is surprisingly solid. All I need know is another clear day to sling some paint, and an ATLAS. (If anyone has one they don't need, let me know) I would greatly appreciate a guide to your straw paint. Not only is it awesome it sticks like nobodies buisness. Citristrip wouldn't touch it. I had to scrub it pretty good. |
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MK12's in progress
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Originally Posted By TinyCrumb:
http://i.imgur.com/lozlqt8.jpg http://i.imgur.com/qO8TEwx.jpg http://i.imgur.com/R7Ce4IN.jpg http://i.imgur.com/grhfw3C.jpg http://i.imgur.com/QN2igGm.jpg http://i.imgur.com/yWtdV3I.jpg View Quote Damnit, i'm not done with my mod 1 and now youre making me want a mod 0/holland |
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Originally Posted By TinyCrumb:
http://i.imgur.com/lozlqt8.jpg http://i.imgur.com/qO8TEwx.jpg http://i.imgur.com/R7Ce4IN.jpg http://i.imgur.com/grhfw3C.jpg http://i.imgur.com/QN2igGm.jpg http://i.imgur.com/yWtdV3I.jpg View Quote Nice dude! Tell us about that wrap on the can. Looks like twine.. |
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Originally Posted By LowplainsWindage:
Nice dude! Tell us about that wrap on the can. Looks like twine.. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By LowplainsWindage:
Nice dude! Tell us about that wrap on the can. Looks like twine.. He watched lone survivor one too many times obviously |
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Originally Posted By HaveBlue83: The BT-10 is a wonderful thing. ARdvark....mine has a painted look to it =) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By HaveBlue83: Originally Posted By secretwheelman: ATLAS should be here next week. The BT-10 is a wonderful thing. ARdvark....mine has a painted look to it =) Love my Atlas's as well, replaced all my Harris's with them, but now need a Harris for the Mod1 build lol. I though an Atlas on a MK12 was faux-pas, do the purists hassle you :). |
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Originally Posted By ARdvark: Do anyone else's brake and collar have a almost bronze color to them? Got mine from BCM, had all the paperwork and info from ops inc...but just a funny color. see below. http://i.imgur.com/SYT3uRV.jpg View Quote |
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"Not proud of everything I've done, but at least you know I did it well."
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Originally Posted By 78Staff:
Love my Atlas's as well, replaced all my Harris's with them, but now need a Harris for the Mod1 build lol. I though an Atlas on a MK12 was faux-pas, do the purists hassle you :). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 78Staff:
Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:
Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
ATLAS should be here next week. The BT-10 is a wonderful thing. ARdvark....mine has a painted look to it =) http://i65.tinypic.com/vwwpqg.jpg Love my Atlas's as well, replaced all my Harris's with them, but now need a Harris for the Mod1 build lol. I though an Atlas on a MK12 was faux-pas, do the purists hassle you :). Haha, yes, it's just twine and I originally got the idea from LS. I was listening to a podcast where one of the SEAL consultants for the movie talked about it and thought I'd try it since I didn't necessarily want to paint my can. It's worked really well, it certainly does a nice job w/ camo and as an added benefit it keeps the can cool enough to the touch that I can always handle it bare handed. Since I never use my unpainted Mod 1 anymore I might still just paint the can, but for now this works great. |
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Originally Posted By 78Staff:
Love my Atlas's as well, replaced all my Harris's with them, but now need a Harris for the Mod1 build lol. I though an Atlas on a MK12 was faux-pas, do the purists hassle you :). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 78Staff:
Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:
Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
ATLAS should be here next week. The BT-10 is a wonderful thing. ARdvark....mine has a painted look to it =) http://i65.tinypic.com/vwwpqg.jpg Love my Atlas's as well, replaced all my Harris's with them, but now need a Harris for the Mod1 build lol. I though an Atlas on a MK12 was faux-pas, do the purists hassle you :). Atlas on a Holland is GTG IMO. I like to think of the Holland as the "Mk 12 modernized". |
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Originally Posted By TinyCrumb: Atlas on a Holland is GTG IMO. I like to think of the Holland as the "Mk 12 modernized". http://i.imgur.com/SxZ3Cbq.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zr2wAZ1.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By TinyCrumb: Originally Posted By 78Staff: Originally Posted By HaveBlue83: Originally Posted By secretwheelman: ATLAS should be here next week. The BT-10 is a wonderful thing. ARdvark....mine has a painted look to it =) http://i65.tinypic.com/vwwpqg.jpg Love my Atlas's as well, replaced all my Harris's with them, but now need a Harris for the Mod1 build lol. I though an Atlas on a MK12 was faux-pas, do the purists hassle you :). Atlas on a Holland is GTG IMO. I like to think of the Holland as the "Mk 12 modernized". http://i.imgur.com/SxZ3Cbq.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zr2wAZ1.jpg |
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"Not proud of everything I've done, but at least you know I did it well."
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
It's what I'm currently waiting on. However, this thing is quite handy sans bipod. <a href="https://flic.kr/p/HbTULc" target="_blank">https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7132/27033920651_e3013bdf14_o.jpg</a> View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By TinyCrumb:
Originally Posted By 78Staff:
Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:
Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
ATLAS should be here next week. The BT-10 is a wonderful thing. ARdvark....mine has a painted look to it =) http://i65.tinypic.com/vwwpqg.jpg Love my Atlas's as well, replaced all my Harris's with them, but now need a Harris for the Mod1 build lol. I though an Atlas on a MK12 was faux-pas, do the purists hassle you :). Atlas on a Holland is GTG IMO. I like to think of the Holland as the "Mk 12 modernized". http://i.imgur.com/SxZ3Cbq.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zr2wAZ1.jpg <a href="https://flic.kr/p/HbTULc" target="_blank">https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7132/27033920651_e3013bdf14_o.jpg</a> The bi-pod ads a lot of weight. I just finished getting mine mocked up sans optic. Had the Harris on it and thought "damn this is heavier than expected". I pulled it off and was amazed at how much better it felt. I think I'll go without. Any one know the weights of the Harris v. Atlas? They both look to be around 13oz. |
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So I found a #38 spr peq 2-3 and I bought it. Pretty sure next couple days will be suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuper slow.
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Originally Posted By outlaw7:
The newest members to the fam, and the red headed step child up top. <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/mrwhite182/media/20160518_124403_zpsdhegvzsk.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v633/mrwhite182/20160518_124403_zpsdhegvzsk.jpg</a> View Quote Congrats! More pics!! |
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Originally Posted By outlaw7: The newest members to the fam, and the red headed step child up top. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v633/mrwhite182/20160518_124403_zpsdhegvzsk.jpg View Quote You can send her to me. |
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
I like redheads. You can send her to me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By outlaw7:
The newest members to the fam, and the red headed step child up top. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v633/mrwhite182/20160518_124403_zpsdhegvzsk.jpg You can send her to me. I just got a similar pm from a fella. Told him I'd put him on the list. Bad thing for him, he's #6 on it. Good thing for you, you are #1. |
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