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Posted: 12/20/2010 8:59:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RTUtah]
Originally Posted By PSYWAR1-0:
The Recce platform was something that sprung up within the NSW and 5th SFG communities that first became the Special Purpose Receiver built by Crane, which was supposed to be installed on any M4 lower. After a time when the perfect storm of the users wanting a match-grade trigger and the bolt-bounce issue was identified, the Special Purpose Receiver morphed into a complete rifle that was type-classified as the Mk12. Mk12: A BRIEF HISTORY (as authored by "LGT" & "FL") Mk12 Special Purpose Rifle (SPR) Scoped versions of the M16 rifle existed as far back as the 1960s. Like nearly all historic military rifles, the M16 went through decades of efforts to improve its accuracy, both in the military and civilian marksmanship communities. The need for the SPR dates back to the late 1980s and early 1990s when the 7.62mm M21 sniper rifle, a semi-automatic weapon of Vietnam vintage, was replaced by the M24 sniper rifle, a bolt action weapon. The M24 was originally specified to be a .300 Winchester Magnum, but the Army decided to field it in 7.62 NATO for a variety of economic reasons. This left the M24 in the unenviable position of being the worst of both worlds in the eyes of snipers at the time, since it lost the fast-shooing, semiautomatic capability of the M21, but did not gain the range advantage of the .300WM. This compromise left a vacant requirement for a fast-shooting semi-automatic sniper rifle. This need was most apparent in the US Army Special Forces (SF) community, since the other commands within the Special Operations Forces structure filled that need with Knights Armament Corporation's SR-25 sniper rifle. Army SF, being prohibited by its leadership from procuring the SR-25, sought the next best alternative, namely a Special Purpose Receiver (SPR) kit to convert the Army SF M4 carbines into highly accurate rifles. In late 1998, at the request of SFC Steve Holland of 5th Special Forces Group, and the approval of the SOPMOD joint IPT, the Special Operations Peculiar Modifications (SOPMOD) Program Manager, Troy Smith, authorized the purchase of 5 sets of commercial items as an SPR experiment. The original requirement was for USASOC, mainly the SF Groups, as WARCOM had the MK11, 7.62mm system. Once the SPR requirement was developed and demonstrated through experimentation, most of the other commands in USSOCOM added themselves to the Basis of Issue Plan (BOIP). The USSOCOM requirement for the SPR, with improved ammunition, was approved in July 1999, as part of the SOPMOD Kit, Operational Requirements Document, Version 5 (ORD 5). Further initial development included several variants of the SPR and new ammunition that were compatible with the M4 carbine's lower receiver. It was found that standard issue M855 5.56mm ammunition was not consistent enough to meet the requirement. In 2000, based on an upgrade requirement to provide a match-grade trigger to the design, Mr. Paul Miller, the SPR project manager, discovered an opportunity to pick through over 15,000 M16A1s that had been sent to Crane for destruction. Realizing that these M16A1 rifles, some of which were virtually new, could be used as "free lumber" to build full SPR weapons, Paul selected several thousand rifles to be set aside for the new SPR project. The SPR underwent a minor but significant name change, with the R having originally stood for "Receiver" now standing for "Rifle" The new weapon system was worthless without a matching round of ammunition to obtain the performance required. The PEO-SP USSOCOM authorized the new round that became Mk262 as part of the Mk12 system in August 2000. Paul Miller and his SPR team refined the 77-grain prototype ammunition and built approximately 124 SPR Rifles in the summer of 2001. These were finished just in time to ship out to Army SF in late October 2001, to be used in the first invasion of Afghanistan. The SPR rifles were extremely well-received, and the SOF combat units ordered hundreds more. In May 2002, USSOCOM removed the Mk12 and other complete weapons projects from the SOPMOD Program and placed them under the newly-formed USSOCOM Weapons Program. The fielded weapons included two versions (Mk12 Special Purpose Rifle Mod0 and Mod1). Fielding has since been structured for Mk12 Mod1 Special Purpose Rifle only. This rifle is used by Joint USSOCOM Commands and the USMC in combination with M262 (AA53, 77 grain) ammunition. Formal fielding of the full-rate production version of the Mk12 rifle and ammunition occurred in May 2003 and was completed in FY '04. In 2012, as the decade of war on terrorism was winding down and the SCAR weapon system began replacing the requirement for the Mk12, USSOCOM and Naval Special Warfare divested themselves of the Mk12 weapons system, and the Mk12 is now being looked at to fill a Designated Marksman Role within Brown Water Navy commands. The following parts lists and substitution parts was compiled by lancecriminal86 over the course of a LOT of research. Read up and pay attention! Below are the 100% .mil-spec parts lists to build a true SPR or Mk12 clone. Some of these parts are no longer manufactured and will require much effort and money to locate through forums and online brokers. Keep in mind the rifles were built off donor M16A1s, hence the prevalent A1 parts in the lower receivers and the BCGs. They were also first configured using parts available from 1998-2004, and most are inferior in some ways to newer designs. If this bothers you too much, STOP NOW. The rifles were issued as a kit in a Pelican 1700 case with cutouts. The kits included the rifle with suppressor, optic, bipod, an Eagle TAS-1 UMSS sling (unobtanium and also absolute crap), with a Dewey 1-piece cleaning rod plus Otis cleaning kit, and a cutout for magazines. An operator's manual was also included, however these have not been officially released for public consumption. However, the manuals are out there, and some companies building Mk12 uppers include one. Whether these are official .mil operator's manuals or specially made is currently unclear as the manual itself still contains language that it is not for distribution. - Alternate .mil-spec parts due to NFA, NLA parts, or changes in name/markings for current production in [brackets] - Extra notes about parts or availability are in (parenthesis) LOWER Lower receivers were standard across the SPR/Mk12 variants and the only variations would be between grips, stocks, and buffers. Most were marked either Colt or GM Hydramatic. All other parts were the same in regards to the lower parts. One caveat is the trigger, as the program originally selected the Knight's Armament 2-stage Full Auto Match trigger. Later on, some issues regarding negligent discharges occurred, and Geissele SSF triggers ultimately found their way into the Mk12 family. Whether 100% of all Mk12s eventually received the Geissele trigger isn't clear, so either is acceptable.
The upper receivers, which ultimately differentiate the four variants of the Mk12, have the most variation between each other. Early SPR/Mod0
ModH, Mod "Holland"
Naturally, once these rifles were issued to units, operators and even Marines used various non-issued parts. Here is a short summary of what has been seen: Early SPR/Mod0: Both Leupold 3.5-10x40mm and 3-9x36mm scopes have been used. Many have had carbine stocks like the old CAR-style, enhanced M4, SOPMOD Gen I, or even the Tactical DuoStock swapped on. Mod1: One 3rd SFG-issued rifle pictured with SSgt Robert J. Miller (MoH recipient) used an A.R.M.S #36 S-EX 5.56mm rail, and a Leupold M3X 10x fixed-power scope, possibly pulled from an M-24 or SR-25 rifle. Another has been seen with a Magpul PRS, LaRue mount, and a Premier Reticles 3-15x used by an AMU shooter, and a similar rifle was pictured on a FOB in a very posed-looking photo. Further, a USMC-issued Mod1 was seen using #22 Medium rings instead of High rings, and a LaRue mount has been spotted as well. Grips have varied from the usual A1, A2, and ERGO, and at least one Magpul MIAD has been used. As with the Mod0s, carbine stocks like the SOPMOD and M4 have been used on Mod1s. ModH: The Mod "Holland" was already a small-batch configuration, but even as soon as they were issued to 5th SFG units, some Ace SOCOM stocks were replaced with Magpul ACS and CTR stocks. Optics are basically anything existing in the unit's inventory, from S&B ShortDots still in the system, the 3-9x and 3.5-10x Leupold scopes from earlier Mod0s, and there's even a photo of an ELCAN on a Mod1 floating around. No non-magnified optics like EOTechs or regular Aimpoint M2/M4s, but Micros have been seen on offset mounts. Backup iron sights, as a whole, were almost entirely left unmounted. Grips were again the same usual selection. Parts Alternatives for Clone Building Many parts are rare, expensive, and/or both. Despite this, there are some alternatives to a 100% pure clone that will still provide the same visual look and performance. While not a museum-grade clone, most would be hard-pressed to discern the difference. Just know there are those of us out there that will haze and peer-pressure you into further moving your build towards a true clone. Barrel: Popular options are the White Oak Armament SPR barrel (rifle gas), BCM's SPR barrel, Rainier's Match and Ultramatch offerings (ensure it's the SPR contour with 12th Model profile), Ballistic Advantage's SPR barrel. Compass Lake Engineering can also spin a Mk12 profiled barrel with a Criterion chrome-lined blank, or even a Krieger, which was one of the original contenders for the program. The DPMS Mk12 barrels are NOT properly profiled for a clone. Optics & Rings: In the case of the Leupold 3-9x or 3.5-10x, it's generally okay to go for a non-illuminated version of either, sometimes with M1 or other turrets and reticles. As far as the NightForce scope, the 2.5-10x24mm is not generally released to the public anymore (with one recent exception through Sniper's Hide), so many use the 32mm or even 42mm versions with the #22 High rings. As for the rings, any of the recent produced A.R.M.S. #22s with the lever-stop humps are functionally the same, the desire for non-lever-stops is purely aesthetic when going for the most authentic look. As LaRue LT-104s have been seen in use, it is justifiable to use one depending on whether you have a specific rifle you want to copy, or even just if you absolutely cannot acquire #22 High rings. A.R.M.S. #38 SWAN Sleeve: The #38 family of sleeves are no longer available. Finding them secondhand usually cost $250-$300 easy, more for rarer early variants. Fortunately, PRi's copies of the sleeves look and function almost identically, with minor visual differences. PRi and other builders supply these currently for complete Mod0 builds. FSB: While the set-screw version of PRi's FSB is spec, most use the cross-bolt, clamp-style version. They are extremely robust, and when aligned and torqued, have been shown to hold strong enough that you'll probably shear your barrel extension pin or upper before it budges. This is mainly how Mod0 uppers are supplied by most vendors, including PRi themselves. Suppressor, Brake/Collar: Diverging from the OPS Inc. or AEM brake and collar will get you MAJOR flak. Trust me, I've been running an AAC SPR/M4 for years now and it took a LONG time to not get clubbed every time I posted it. The Allen Engineering AEM5 is basically the current production of the OPS Inc. 12th Model, as they were originally made by Ron Allen and his team in the first place. Only minor differences separate original OPS Inc. cans from AE cans, and these are only obvious to trained eyes. As far as the rest, you can swap Colt parts out for any other .mil-spec parts, like BCM, DD, CMT, etc. Any billet uppers/lowers, funky BCG coatings, extended bolt releases, etc. are extremely frowned upon. Remember, once you start going down the path of building a "better" rifle rather than what was spec, you're quickly beyond clone territory and would have been better off building a custom 16" or 20" rifle. Cloning is generally viewed as all-in or not at all. * * * * * * * * * * Complete Mk12 Mod0 / Mod1 Uppers Bravo Company Manufacturing High Caliber Sales Precision Reflex Inc. Specific Mk12 Tech Augee's side-by-side comparison of the original ARMS SWAN Sleeve and PRI reproduction PEQ Sleeves: bottom of p136 KOBK's side-by-side comparison of PRI Gen I, II, and III handguards, and Gen I and Gen II FSBs, and SWANs: middle of p137 Augee's Mod1 gas block tech: top half of p357 Glass1's Early Mod0 photo breakdown: middle of p449 tamboi's Leupold Vari-X, TS30, and TS30A2 scope history/lineage, and part numbers, p.792  Attached File |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 3/12/2017 10:19:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lurp06x:
Looks like he's got to much ammo I will be happy to help him get rid of some  Too much ammo??? |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 3/12/2017 2:04:23 PM EDT
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i got my manual! #bedsidereadingmaterial
thanks for that. i missed out on the cases as i wasnt sure on my refund amount, then i get 1k more than i thought after everyone called em :/. i shoulda ordered one. #hindsight. eveey time i see a mod 0 i want to do one. i was close with the wormydog once, and i know its heavy, but its so effing classic as well :). |
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Posted: 3/12/2017 5:17:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmedFerret:
One is inclined to wonder if he was one of the first batch that got them from the gentleman (Dennis) selling them in the EE at MSRP. For those who got the cases, the proper 30" Dewey rod is on sale at Brownell's for 20 bucks right now. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmedFerret:
Originally Posted By vanquishings:
You're not alone, buddy. Also, there's a Mod 1 rail in the EE, not my ad. Well over retail, but just in case anyone's desperate: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_22/1640249_KAC-Mk12-RAS-Long---NIB.html One is inclined to wonder if he was one of the first batch that got them from the gentleman (Dennis) selling them in the EE at MSRP. For those who got the cases, the proper 30" Dewey rod is on sale at Brownell's for 20 bucks right now. Wow. They pulled those quick. The 22c-30 is not even listed. |
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Posted: 3/12/2017 6:52:22 PM EDT
[#4]
Amazon has some 22-C30's
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Posted: 3/12/2017 7:02:08 PM EDT
[#5]
@snyder0351 in the 'Ghan.
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PA, USA
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Posted: 3/12/2017 7:32:28 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HaveBlue83:
i got my manual! #bedsidereadingmaterial thanks for that. i missed out on the cases as i wasnt sure on my refund amount, then i get 1k more than i thought after everyone called em :/. i shoulda ordered one. #hindsight. eveey time i see a mod 0 i want to do one. i was close with the wormydog once, and i know its heavy, but its so effing classic as well :). Two cases on Ebay right now. Same seller. Foam looks good. search "Mk 12 Pelican 1700. |
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Posted: 3/12/2017 8:08:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Engineer5]
[#7]
KAC FF long RAS just sold in the EE for $190......
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MN, USA
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Posted: 3/12/2017 8:30:36 PM EDT
[#8]
Her first coat of paint. Letting her dry for a bit then I can get some better pics.
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Posted: 3/12/2017 8:32:27 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Engineer5:
KAC FF long RAS just sold in the EE for $190......
You serious? 
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Posted: 3/12/2017 8:34:18 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTUtah:
You serious? Yup. He's also got ARMS #40's for $35. |
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Posted: 3/12/2017 8:35:43 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Engineer5:
Yup. He's also got ARMS #40's for $35. Had, hopefully. 
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Posted: 3/12/2017 8:37:00 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunterex:
Had, hopefully. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunterex:
Originally Posted By Engineer5:
Yup. He's also got ARMS #40's for $35. Had, hopefully. I've got a strange feeling that the ARMS #40's and the KAC rail will all be early versions. |
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Posted: 3/12/2017 8:41:45 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Engineer5:
I've got a strange feeling that the ARMS #40's and the KAC rail will all be early versions. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Engineer5:
Originally Posted By Hunterex:
Originally Posted By Engineer5:
Yup. He's also got ARMS #40's for $35. Had, hopefully. I've got a strange feeling that the ARMS #40's and the KAC rail will all be early versions. I'm not mad. I just scooped a medium for a recce build. 
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IN, USA
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Posted: 3/12/2017 9:00:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: aaron580]
[#14]
I bought my ff ras from him a while back. Was re anodized, but works like a charm. Also an arms 40 rear that was wingless. Good guy to deal with.
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Posted: 3/12/2017 9:17:25 PM EDT
[#15]
I just seen the $190 KAC FF Long RAS.
Dude's a good guy to deal with, too. Fucking shit. I get real lucky sometimes, but usually miss out on most of the uber-retarded deals. $50 SF RC556 4 prongs, $250 ACOG TA31Fs, etc....... 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/12/2017 9:47:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/12/2017 10:48:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: cmdexe]
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunterex:
Had, hopefully. Yeah was late on those sights, but that ras was a smoking deal, if I hadn't already bought 2 new ones I would've picked it up, pretty sure he's the same guy that emailed me based on my WTB a few days ago giving me first dibs if the ras rail has been refinished or re anodized all black. |
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Posted: 3/12/2017 10:59:06 PM EDT
[#18]
Hey dudes, I know it's not related, but anyone help me locate a AAC 51t brake in 5/8x24... its real important. Anyways;
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OR, USA
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Posted: 3/12/2017 11:00:54 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmedFerret:
For those who got the cases, the proper 30" Dewey rod is on sale at Brownell's for 20 bucks right now. They actually had the 22CF-30 listed??? I thought only the 22C-30 was sold commercially. |
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Posted: 3/12/2017 11:45:46 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
Wow. They pulled those quick. The 22c-30 is not even listed. 22c-30 still on sale/in stock Brownells 22c-30 |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 3/12/2017 11:54:49 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By edwin907:
Too much ammo??? Yeah, no. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 3/12/2017 11:55:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JJREA]
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Posted: 3/13/2017 7:36:27 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/13/2017 8:06:02 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JJREA:
Boomshackalacka, yum. Man, you and Utah's are like twins. Maybe Fraternal. Or maybe almost identical twins. They do usually look a hair different. LOL. broomstick vs suppressor.
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Posted: 3/13/2017 8:11:12 AM EDT
[#25]
Had a guy email me about which Otis cleaning kit was packaged with the Mk12 and Pelican. Anyone know?
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Posted: 3/13/2017 8:45:55 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTUtah:
Had a guy email me about which Otis cleaning kit was packaged with the Mk12 and Pelican. Anyone know? AFAIK it's the multi-caliber one in the tan zippered case. I have a couple that I'm hanging on to.
This one, Pacifically. Cleaning kit. Although it could have been "just" the M4/M16 version; that's on amazon from third-party sellers here. Either will "look" correct in the case for pitchars....the multi-caliber one is obviously going to be more versatile if you're actually using it. |
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OK, USA
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Posted: 3/13/2017 8:48:20 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTUtah:
Had a guy email me about which Otis cleaning kit was packaged with the Mk12 and Pelican. Anyone know? It is in the manual with a part number. |
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Posted: 3/13/2017 11:14:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Samson-Dogg]
[#28]
that is a smoking deal on the dewey rods that 78staff posted. less than what I paid by 7.50 and if you order 99.00 you get free shipping. the Otis kit is NSN 1005-01-448-8513. there was a guy on ebay selling used ones for 20.00 shipped. I bought 4. all were in good shape. the brushes were used but all parts were there.
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Posted: 3/13/2017 12:31:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tinman44]
[#29]
I thought this was the correct cleaning kit. Damn can't get image to load
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OR, USA
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Posted: 3/13/2017 12:54:19 PM EDT
[#30]
Just picked up this older JP bore guide, besides being the wrong anodize do you think they where marked like this when issued with the kits? The newer ones are stamped rather than engraved
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Posted: 3/13/2017 12:57:02 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
that is a smoking deal on the dewey rods that 78staff posted. less than what I paid by 7.50 and if you order 99.00 you get free shipping. the Otis kit is NSN 1005-01-448-8513. there was a guy on ebay selling used ones for 20.00 shipped. I bought 4. all were in good shape. the brushes were used but all parts were there. I also received my mk12 mod 0/1 manual last week, thanks Samson! |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 3/13/2017 1:35:48 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryI see what happened - the 22CF-30 (female threaded end) was included with the Mod 0 and early Mod 1's, but later replaced with the 22C-30 (male threaded end). I reviewed the Mod 0/1 and Mod 1 IPB and saw this changed between publications: 
Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Had a guy email me about which Otis cleaning kit was packaged with the Mk12 and Pelican. Anyone know? See above - "223M16" = M16 soft pack. |
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Posted: 3/13/2017 1:43:35 PM EDT
[#33]
The 22C-30 also now comes with a female adapter
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Posted: 3/13/2017 1:44:23 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mrsaturn7085:
I see what happened - the 22CF-30 (female threaded end) was included with the Mod 0 and early Mod 1's, but later replaced with the 22C-30 (male threaded end). I reviewed the Mod 0/1 and Mod 1 IPB and saw this changed between publications: http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad85/mrsaturn7085b/IPB_zpshvlqmnja.png See above - "223M16" = M16 soft pack. Thanks dude.
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OR, USA
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Posted: 3/13/2017 1:54:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mrsaturn7085]
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cjwwd2:
The 22C-30 also now comes with a female adapter It does? When did this change? All of my Dewey 22C rods have male ends and I definitely have a few 30" models among the 10-12 or so rods I've collected over the years. EDIT: I understand what you mean - they've always included the adapter, but the Mod 0 rod actually had a female end on the rod itself. |
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Posted: 3/13/2017 1:59:17 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mrsaturn7085:
It does? When did this change? All of my Dewey 22C rods have male ends and I definitely have a few 30" models among the 10-12 or so rods I've collected over the years. Not sure about when it might have changed, but the product description on the Brownell's site clearly says "8-32 male threads w/8-32 female adapter".
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OR, USA
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Posted: 3/13/2017 2:00:32 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmedFerret:
Not sure about when it might have changed, but the product description on the Brownell's site clearly says "8-32 male threads w/8-32 female adapter". Edited my post - I thought you were saying the end fitting changed to a female socket. |
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Posted: 3/13/2017 2:15:32 PM EDT
[#38]
Getting out of the Mk12 game - transitioning to its bigger (younger?) brother the Mk11. My upper is posted in the EE.
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Posted: 3/13/2017 2:20:54 PM EDT
[#39]
So I've tracked down everything for the bore guides. I can buy bore guides that look identical to the JP guides. They are raw aluminum. Then I'll take them over and have the industrial coatings guy anodize them black. I think with shipping to the end user they will run 37-39 dollars. I was thinking I would do 20 of them. I was wondering if I could get a head count of who may be interested. I don't need 20 bore guides so I need to make sure there is interest in this before I start this. I will be buying 4 of them so there will be 16 left.
I also think I have the USMC log round count logs located. I'm waiting to see how many he has. I'll have an idea about when I'll get the Ballistic cards soon. They will be a laminated card as big as a manual page. I was thinking maybe a touch bigger. Not sure yet. |
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Posted: 3/13/2017 2:33:20 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
So I've tracked down everything for the bore guides. I can buy bore guides that look identical to the JP guides. They are raw aluminum. Then I'll take them over and have the industrial coatings guy anodize them black. I think with shipping to the end user they will run 37-39 dollars. I was thinking I would do 20 of them. I was wondering if I could get a head count of who may be interested. I don't need 20 bore guides so I need to make sure there is interest in this before I start this. I will be buying 4 of them so there will be 16 left. I also think I have the USMC log round count logs located. I'm waiting to see how many he has. I'll have an idea about when I'll get the Ballistic cards soon. They will be a laminated card as big as a manual page. I was thinking maybe a touch bigger. Not sure yet. You're the man for doin all this. I'm down for one of each. |
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Posted: 3/13/2017 2:36:04 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
So I've tracked down everything for the bore guides. I can buy bore guides that look identical to the JP guides. They are raw aluminum. Then I'll take them over and have the industrial coatings guy anodize them black. I think with shipping to the end user they will run 37-39 dollars. I was thinking I would do 20 of them. I was wondering if I could get a head count of who may be interested. I don't need 20 bore guides so I need to make sure there is interest in this before I start this. I will be buying 4 of them so there will be 16 left. I also think I have the USMC log round count logs located. I'm waiting to see how many he has. I'll have an idea about when I'll get the Ballistic cards soon. They will be a laminated card as big as a manual page. I was thinking maybe a touch bigger. Not sure yet. I'm down for one of each as well |
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USA
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Posted: 3/13/2017 2:39:31 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
So I've tracked down everything for the bore guides. I can buy bore guides that look identical to the JP guides. They are raw aluminum. Then I'll take them over and have the industrial coatings guy anodize them black. I think with shipping to the end user they will run 37-39 dollars. I was thinking I would do 20 of them. I was wondering if I could get a head count of who may be interested. I don't need 20 bore guides so I need to make sure there is interest in this before I start this. I will be buying 4 of them so there will be 16 left. I also think I have the USMC log round count logs located. I'm waiting to see how many he has. I'll have an idea about when I'll get the Ballistic cards soon. They will be a laminated card as big as a manual page. I was thinking maybe a touch bigger. Not sure yet. I'd be in for a bore guide! |
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Posted: 3/13/2017 2:42:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: KOBK]
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
So I've tracked down everything for the bore guides. I can buy bore guides that look identical to the JP guides. They are raw aluminum. Then I'll take them over and have the industrial coatings guy anodize them black. I think with shipping to the end user they will run 37-39 dollars. I was thinking I would do 20 of them. I was wondering if I could get a head count of who may be interested. I don't need 20 bore guides so I need to make sure there is interest in this before I start this. I will be buying 4 of them so there will be 16 left. I also think I have the USMC log round count logs located. I'm waiting to see how many he has. I'll have an idea about when I'll get the Ballistic cards soon. They will be a laminated card as big as a manual page. I was thinking maybe a touch bigger. Not sure yet. I would be down for one Need to start filling in the empty spaces -  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/13/2017 2:42:25 PM EDT
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[#44]
Count me in for both. 3 round count booklets and maybe 2 guides and ballistic cards
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Posted: 3/13/2017 2:46:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
So I've tracked down everything for the bore guides. I can buy bore guides that look identical to the JP guides. They are raw aluminum. Then I'll take them over and have the industrial coatings guy anodize them black. I think with shipping to the end user they will run 37-39 dollars. I was thinking I would do 20 of them. I was wondering if I could get a head count of who may be interested. I don't need 20 bore guides so I need to make sure there is interest in this before I start this. I will be buying 4 of them so there will be 16 left. I also think I have the USMC log round count logs located. I'm waiting to see how many he has. I'll have an idea about when I'll get the Ballistic cards soon. They will be a laminated card as big as a manual page. I was thinking maybe a touch bigger. Not sure yet. You're a beast. I'd be in for 1 of each |
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Posted: 3/13/2017 2:47:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Great_Balls_of_Fire:
Getting out of the Mk12 game - transitioning to its bigger (younger?) brother the Mk11. My upper is posted in the EE.
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Posted: 3/13/2017 2:51:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Great_Balls_of_Fire]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTUtah:
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Posted: 3/13/2017 2:57:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Great_Balls_of_Fire:
Sorry bro - i'll let you pet it Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Great_Balls_of_Fire:
Originally Posted By RTUtah:
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Posted: 3/13/2017 3:05:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTUtah:
It's going to a good home. @samson, could you put my name down for one of each. Cheers. |
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Posted: 3/13/2017 3:30:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
So I've tracked down everything for the bore guides. I can buy bore guides that look identical to the JP guides. They are raw aluminum. Then I'll take them over and have the industrial coatings guy anodize them black. I think with shipping to the end user they will run 37-39 dollars. I was thinking I would do 20 of them. I was wondering if I could get a head count of who may be interested. I don't need 20 bore guides so I need to make sure there is interest in this before I start this. I will be buying 4 of them so there will be 16 left. I also think I have the USMC log round count logs located. I'm waiting to see how many he has. I'll have an idea about when I'll get the Ballistic cards soon. They will be a laminated card as big as a manual page. I was thinking maybe a touch bigger. Not sure yet. I would be down for a bore guide, round count log, and ballistic card |
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