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Posted: 12/20/2010 8:59:25 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By PSYWAR1-0:

The Recce platform was something that sprung up within the NSW and 5th SFG communities that first became the Special Purpose Receiver built by Crane, which was supposed to be installed on any M4 lower. After a time when the perfect storm of the users wanting a match-grade trigger and the bolt-bounce issue was identified, the Special Purpose Receiver morphed into a complete rifle that was type-classified as the Mk12.  

Mk12: A BRIEF HISTORY (as authored by "LGT" & "FL")

Mk12 Special Purpose Rifle (SPR)

Scoped versions of the M16 rifle existed as far back as the 1960s. Like nearly all historic military rifles, the M16 went through decades of efforts to improve its accuracy, both in the military and civilian marksmanship communities.

The need for the SPR dates back to the late 1980s and early 1990s when the 7.62mm M21 sniper rifle, a semi-automatic weapon of Vietnam vintage, was replaced by the M24 sniper rifle, a bolt action weapon. The M24 was originally specified to be a .300 Winchester Magnum, but the Army decided to field it in 7.62 NATO for a variety of economic reasons. This left the M24 in the unenviable position of being the worst of both worlds in the eyes of snipers at the time, since it lost the fast-shooing, semiautomatic capability of the M21, but did not gain the range advantage of the .300WM. This compromise left a vacant requirement for a fast-shooting semi-automatic sniper rifle. This need was most apparent in the US Army Special Forces (SF) community, since the other commands within the Special Operations Forces structure filled that need with Knights Armament Corporation's SR-25 sniper rifle.

Army SF, being prohibited by its leadership from procuring the SR-25, sought the next best alternative, namely a Special Purpose Receiver (SPR) kit to convert the Army SF M4 carbines into highly accurate rifles. In late 1998, at the request of SFC Steve Holland of 5th Special Forces Group, and the approval of the SOPMOD joint IPT, the Special Operations Peculiar Modifications (SOPMOD) Program Manager, Troy Smith, authorized the purchase of 5 sets of commercial items as an SPR experiment.

The original requirement was for USASOC, mainly the SF Groups, as WARCOM had the MK11, 7.62mm system. Once the SPR requirement was developed and demonstrated through experimentation, most of the other commands in USSOCOM added themselves to the Basis of Issue Plan (BOIP). The USSOCOM requirement for the SPR, with improved ammunition, was approved in July 1999, as part of the SOPMOD Kit, Operational Requirements Document, Version 5 (ORD 5).  

Further initial development included several variants of the SPR and new ammunition that were compatible with the M4 carbine's lower receiver. It was found that standard issue M855 5.56mm ammunition was not consistent enough to meet the requirement. In 2000, based on an upgrade requirement to provide a match-grade trigger to the design, Mr. Paul Miller, the SPR project manager, discovered an opportunity to pick through over 15,000 M16A1s that had been sent to Crane for destruction. Realizing that these M16A1 rifles, some of which were virtually new, could be used as "free lumber" to build full SPR weapons, Paul selected several thousand rifles to be set aside for the new SPR project. The SPR underwent a minor but significant name change, with the R having originally stood for "Receiver" now standing for "Rifle"

The new weapon system was worthless without a matching round of ammunition to obtain the performance required. The PEO-SP USSOCOM authorized the new round that became Mk262 as part of the Mk12 system in August 2000. Paul Miller and his SPR team refined the 77-grain prototype ammunition and built approximately 124 SPR Rifles in the summer of 2001. These were finished just in time to ship out to Army SF in late October 2001, to be used in the first invasion of Afghanistan. The SPR rifles were extremely well-received, and the SOF combat units ordered hundreds more.  

In May 2002, USSOCOM removed the Mk12 and other complete weapons projects from the SOPMOD Program and placed them under the newly-formed USSOCOM Weapons Program. The fielded weapons included two versions (Mk12 Special Purpose Rifle Mod0 and Mod1). Fielding has since been structured for Mk12 Mod1 Special Purpose Rifle only. This rifle is used by Joint USSOCOM Commands and the USMC in combination with M262 (AA53, 77 grain) ammunition. Formal fielding of the full-rate production version of the Mk12 rifle and ammunition occurred in May 2003 and was completed in FY '04.  

In 2012, as the decade of war on terrorism was winding down and the SCAR weapon system began replacing the requirement for the Mk12, USSOCOM and Naval Special Warfare divested themselves of the Mk12 weapons system, and the Mk12 is now being looked at to fill a Designated Marksman Role within Brown Water Navy commands.
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The following parts lists and substitution parts was compiled by lancecriminal86 over the course of a LOT of research. Read up and pay attention!

Below are the 100% .mil-spec parts lists to build a true SPR or Mk12 clone. Some of these parts are no longer manufactured and will require much effort and money to locate through forums and online brokers. Keep in mind the rifles were built off donor M16A1s, hence the prevalent A1 parts in the lower receivers and the BCGs. They were also first configured using parts available from 1998-2004, and most are inferior in some ways to newer designs. If this bothers you too much, STOP NOW.

The rifles were issued as a kit in a Pelican 1700 case with cutouts. The kits included the rifle with suppressor, optic, bipod, an Eagle TAS-1 UMSS sling (unobtanium and also absolute crap), with a Dewey 1-piece cleaning rod plus Otis cleaning kit, and a cutout for magazines. An operator's manual was also included, however these have not been officially released for public consumption. However, the manuals are out there, and some companies building Mk12 uppers include one. Whether these are official .mil operator's manuals or specially made is currently unclear as the manual itself still contains language that it is not for distribution.

- Alternate .mil-spec parts due to NFA, NLA parts, or changes in name/markings for current production in [brackets]

- Extra notes about parts or availability are in (parenthesis)

LOWER
Lower receivers were standard across the SPR/Mk12 variants and the only variations would be between grips, stocks, and buffers. Most were marked either Colt or GM Hydramatic. All other parts were the same in regards to the lower parts. One caveat is the trigger, as the program originally selected the Knight's Armament 2-stage Full Auto Match trigger. Later on, some issues regarding negligent discharges occurred, and Geissele SSF triggers ultimately found their way into the Mk12 family. Whether 100% of all Mk12s eventually received the Geissele trigger isn't clear, so either is acceptable.
  • Lower: M16A1 pattern [Nodak Spud NDSA1 or 80% re-profiled/finished/engraved]
  • Trigger: Knight's 2-Stage Full Auto Match Trigger or Geissele SSF [KAC semi-auto Match or Geissele SSA/SSA-E]
  • Grip: A1, A2, ERGO Original
  • Stock: Originally issued with A1 stocks, both solid D and trapdoor E types; as A1 stocks dwindled, A2 were used; ModH rifles rebuilt with Ace SOCOM stocks
  • Small parts: Standard M16A1 parts

UPPER
The upper receivers, which ultimately differentiate the four variants of the Mk12, have the most variation between each other.


Early SPR/Mod0
  • Upper: Colt, Diemaco, or Armalite marked, flat top, M4 feed-ramps
  • Barrel: Douglas 416r SS, 18" SPR contour, 1/7 twist, flats milled for PRi FSB (Compass Lake, Centurion Arms, High Caliber Sales, and PRi can all supply barrels that meet the appropriate spec minus FSB flats)
  • BCG: Colt M-16
  • Handguard: Precision Reflex Gen I carbon fiber free-float Handguard, rifle length (identified by button-head screws and one vent hole near barrel nut on lower half; no heat shields)
  • A.R.M.S. #38 SPR MOD Sleeve (either the PEQ version or with uneven spacing on the front  but not the full 1913 railed version)
  • FSB: PRi early folding front sight base and gas manifold, set-screw, with elevation wheel
  • Charging handle: PRi Gas Buster M-84 with military latch
  • Muzzle device: OPS Inc 12th Model brake/collar, and 12th Model suppressor [Allen Engineering AEM5 and brake/collar]
  • Rear iron sight: A.R.M.S. #40
  • Scope rings: A.R.M.S. #22 Medium rings, #22 Tactical Ring Cap and #22 Tactical Ring Rail (rings should not include "lever-stop" hump as produced later by A.R.M.S.)
  • Optic: Leupold Vari-X III 3.5-10x40mm LR, M3 turrets, illuminated Mil-Dot reticle (use .308 turret) [Leupold LR/T 3.5-10x40 LR, M3 turrets, Illuminated Mil-Dot reticle]
  • Bipod: Versa-Pod with A.R.M.S. #42, or a Harris with A.R.M.S. #32 (Versa-Pod far inferior to Harris)
Late Mod0
  • Upper: Colt or Diemaco marked, flat top, M4 feed-ramps
  • Barrel: Douglas 416r SS, 18" SPR contour, 1/7 twist, flats milled for PRi FSB (Compass Lake, Centurion Arms, High Caliber Sales, and PRi can all supply barrels that meet the appropriate spec minus FSB flats)
  • BCG: Colt M-16.
  • Handguard: Precision Reflex Gen III carbon fiber free-float handguard, rifle length
  • A.R.M.S. #38 SPR-PEQ-2-3 Sleeve
  • FSB: PRi folding FSB, set-screw, .750 (original production had PRi's full address engraved on sight tower; those engraved with "PRi USA" are later manufacture)
  • Charging handle: PRi Gas Buster M-84 with military latch
  • Muzzle device: OPS Inc. 12th Model brake/collar, and 12th Model suppressor [Allen Engineering AEM5 and brake/collar]
  • Rear iron sight: A.R.M.S. #40
  • Scope Rings: A.R.M.S. #22 Medium rings (rings should not include "lever-stop" hump as produced later by A.R.M.S.)
  • Optic: Leupold 3-9x36mm TS-30, Mk4 MR/T 2.5-8x36mm TS-30A2, M2 turrets with Mk262 BDC, illuminated TMR reticle
  • Bipod: Harris with either A.R.M.S. #32 or KAC RAS bipod adapter
SPR/A, SPR/B, Mod1
  • Upper: Colt or Diemaco marked, flat top, M4 feed-ramps
  • Barrel: Douglas 416r SS, 18" SPR contour, 1/7 twist, flats milled for PRi FSB (Compass Lake, Centurion Arms, High Caliber Sales, and PRi can all supply barrels that meet the appropriate spec minus FSB flats)
  • BCG: Colt M-16
  • Handguard: Knight's Armament M4 Match FF RAS, rifle length (now called the SR15/16 Match FF RAS)
  • Gas block: NSWC Crane pattern (Badger Ordnance parkerized/NSN version is correct, has open front of gas tube hole)
  • Charging handle: PRi Gas Buster M-84 with military latch
  • Muzzle device: OPS Inc. 12th Model brake/collar, and 12th Model suppressor [Allen Engineering AEM5 and brake/collar]
  • Scope rings: A.R.M.S. #22 High rings (A.R.M.S. rings should not include "lever-stop" hump as produced later by A.R.M.S.)
  • Optic: Leupold Mk4 MR/T 2.5-8x36mm TS-30A2, M2 turrets with Mk262 BDC, illuminated TMR reticle or NightForce 2.5-10x24 (optionally with NightForce rings)
  • Bipod: Harris with KAC RAS bipod adapter (BRM-S, A.R.M.S. #32 could still optionally be used)

ModH, Mod "Holland"

  • Upper: Colt or Diemaco marked, flat top, M4 feed-ramps
  • Barrel: Noveske 16" Recon, mid-length gas system, profiled for OPS Inc. 12th Model brake/collar (will require aftermarket contouring of most barrels)
  • BCG: Colt M-16
  • Handguard: Precision Reflex Gen III carbon fiber free-float handguard, FDE, rifle length
  • Charging handle: PRi Gas Buster M-84 with military latch
  • Muzzle Device: OPS. Inc. 12th Model brake/collar, and 12th Model suppressor [Allen Engineering AEM5 and brake/collar]
  • Scope Rings: A.R.M.S. #22 Medium rings on PRi recce rail (rings should not include "lever-stop" hump as produced later by A.R.M.S.) or LaRue LT-104 SPR mount
  • Optic: Leupold 3-9x36mm TS-30, Mk4 MR/T 2.5-8x36mm TS-30A2, M2 turrets with Mk262 BDC, illuminated TMR reticle, Leupold Vari-X III 3.5-10x40mm LR, M3 turrets, illuminated Mil-Dot reticle (use .308 turret) [Leupold LR/T 3.5-10x40mm LR, M3 turrets, illuminated Mil-Dot reticle]; S&B Short-Dot
  • Bipod: Harris with either A.R.M.S. #32 or KAC RAS bipod adapter
  • Iron sights: (apparently PRI were supplied but never used)

In the Wild
Naturally, once these rifles were issued to units, operators and even Marines used various non-issued parts. Here is a short summary of what has been seen:

Early SPR/Mod0:
Both Leupold 3.5-10x40mm and 3-9x36mm scopes have been used. Many have had carbine stocks like the old CAR-style, enhanced M4, SOPMOD Gen I, or even the Tactical DuoStock swapped on.

Mod1:
One 3rd SFG-issued rifle pictured with SSgt Robert J. Miller (MoH recipient) used an A.R.M.S #36 S-EX 5.56mm rail, and a Leupold M3X 10x fixed-power scope, possibly pulled from an M-24 or SR-25 rifle. Another has been seen with a Magpul PRS, LaRue mount, and a Premier Reticles 3-15x used by an AMU shooter, and a similar rifle was pictured on a FOB in a very posed-looking photo. Further, a USMC-issued Mod1 was seen using #22 Medium rings instead of High rings, and a LaRue mount has been spotted as well. Grips have varied from the usual A1, A2, and ERGO, and at least one Magpul MIAD has been used. As with the Mod0s, carbine stocks like the SOPMOD and M4 have been used on Mod1s.

ModH:
The Mod "Holland" was already a small-batch configuration, but even as soon as they were issued to 5th SFG units, some Ace SOCOM stocks were replaced with Magpul ACS and CTR stocks. Optics are basically anything existing in the unit's inventory, from S&B ShortDots still in the system, the 3-9x and 3.5-10x Leupold scopes from earlier Mod0s, and there's even a photo of an ELCAN on a Mod1 floating around. No non-magnified optics like EOTechs or regular Aimpoint M2/M4s, but Micros have been seen on offset mounts. Backup iron sights, as a whole, were almost entirely left unmounted. Grips were again the same usual selection.


Parts Alternatives for Clone Building
Many parts are rare, expensive, and/or both. Despite this, there are some alternatives to a 100% pure clone that will still provide the same visual look and performance. While not a museum-grade clone, most would be hard-pressed to discern the difference. Just know there are those of us out there that will haze and peer-pressure you into further moving your build towards a true clone.

Barrel:
Popular options are the White Oak Armament SPR barrel (rifle gas), BCM's SPR barrel, Rainier's Match and Ultramatch offerings (ensure it's the SPR contour with 12th Model profile), Ballistic Advantage's SPR barrel. Compass Lake Engineering can also spin a Mk12 profiled barrel with a Criterion chrome-lined blank, or even a Krieger, which was one of the original contenders for the program. The DPMS Mk12 barrels are NOT properly profiled for a clone.

Optics & Rings:
In the case of the Leupold 3-9x or 3.5-10x, it's generally okay to go for a non-illuminated version of either, sometimes with M1 or other turrets and reticles. As far as the NightForce scope, the 2.5-10x24mm is not generally released to the public anymore (with one recent exception through Sniper's Hide), so many use the 32mm or even 42mm versions with the #22 High rings. As for the rings, any of the recent produced A.R.M.S. #22s with the lever-stop humps are functionally the same, the desire for non-lever-stops is purely aesthetic when going for the most authentic look. As LaRue LT-104s have been seen in use, it is justifiable to use one depending on whether you have a specific rifle you want to copy, or even just if you absolutely cannot acquire #22 High rings.

A.R.M.S. #38 SWAN Sleeve:
The #38 family of sleeves are no longer available. Finding them secondhand usually cost $250-$300 easy, more for rarer early variants. Fortunately, PRi's copies of the sleeves look and function almost identically, with minor visual differences. PRi and other builders supply these currently for complete Mod0 builds.

FSB:
While the set-screw version of PRi's FSB is spec, most use the cross-bolt, clamp-style version. They are extremely robust, and when aligned and torqued, have been shown to hold strong enough that you'll probably shear your barrel extension pin or upper before it budges. This is mainly how Mod0 uppers are supplied by most vendors, including PRi themselves.

Suppressor, Brake/Collar:
Diverging from the OPS Inc. or AEM brake and collar will get you MAJOR flak. Trust me, I've been running an AAC SPR/M4 for years now and it took a LONG time to not get clubbed every time I posted it. The Allen Engineering AEM5 is basically the current production of the OPS Inc. 12th Model, as they were originally made by Ron Allen and his team in the first place. Only minor differences separate original OPS Inc. cans from AE cans, and these are only obvious to trained eyes.

As far as the rest, you can swap Colt parts out for any other .mil-spec parts, like BCM, DD, CMT, etc. Any billet uppers/lowers, funky BCG coatings, extended bolt releases, etc. are extremely frowned upon. Remember, once you start going down the path of building a "better" rifle rather than what was spec, you're quickly beyond clone territory and would have been better off building a custom 16" or 20" rifle. Cloning is generally viewed as all-in or not at all.


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Complete Mk12 Mod0 / Mod1 Uppers
Bravo Company Manufacturing
High Caliber Sales
Precision Reflex Inc.


Specific Mk12 Tech
Augee's side-by-side comparison of the original ARMS SWAN Sleeve and PRI reproduction PEQ Sleeves: bottom of p136
KOBK's side-by-side comparison of PRI Gen I, II, and III handguards, and Gen I and Gen II FSBs, and SWANs: middle of p137
Augee's Mod1 gas block tech: top half of p357
Glass1's Early Mod0 photo breakdown: middle of p449
tamboi's Leupold Vari-X, TS30, and TS30A2 scope history/lineage, and part numbers, p.792


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As of 16 May 2024, Ron Allen is still making custom parts for his suppressors:
Originally Posted By k31user:

I still make custom stuff.
1-530-742-3248
[email protected]

RonA
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Link Posted: 10/15/2016 9:35:17 PM EDT
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who is the guy ?

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Amazing is all an old time like me can say.
Looking forward to all the future builds.



http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab302/sniper907/Mod0.jpg
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who is the guy ?


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who is the guy ?

Originally Posted By AZMAN42:
http://i.imgur.com/30nfuVIh.jpg
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Ya'll know this guy


Nobody.  It's me.  Azman42 doesn't post in this thread.  A few dudes know me fromantic fb or ig, he's just being goofy. He takes some cool pics.
Link Posted: 10/16/2016 12:14:57 AM EDT
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Chenault is a wizard, guys. Just received my #38 modified by him. I can't even tell there was a cutout on there, and he made it wingless, also changed the markings. Great guy, thx a lot dude, you just made me one step closer towards my spr.
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Link Posted: 10/16/2016 12:01:56 PM EDT
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Now that's some cloner team work.
Link Posted: 10/16/2016 12:31:52 PM EDT
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I can finally contribute to this wonderful thread.
Got my Mod1 together. Only things left are to time the brake and paint it. Some things will be changed over time; A1 lower, A1 stock, correct turrets, and an AEM5 on the end as well. But I'm very pleased with the end product and cannot wait to put it thru it's paces.

Link Posted: 10/16/2016 5:38:43 PM EDT
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Those M1 turrets..  damn those things


Anyways,


I changed my mind again.





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It was my pleasure brother, we're all excited to see it come together
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Originally Posted By Chincy:
I can finally contribute to this wonderful thread.
Got my Mod1 together. Only things left are to time the brake and paint it. Some things will be changed over time; A1 lower, A1 stock, correct turrets, and an AEM5 on the end as well. But I'm very pleased with the end product and cannot wait to put it thru it's paces.
<a href="http://s1028.photobucket.com/user/Chince17/media/96%20Impreza%20Wagon/C57C51EB-0DFF-45DD-BA76-F49E05BB9D01_zpsqn9egq2q.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1028.photobucket.com/albums/y343/Chince17/96%20Impreza%20Wagon/C57C51EB-0DFF-45DD-BA76-F49E05BB9D01_zpsqn9egq2q.jpg</a>
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That's a good looking build. Nicely done.

I made two changes to my girls today. My Mod Juan got an A2 grip to match the A2 lower and A2 stock. And the Mod Holly got an A1 grip for the A1 lower. #CloningCosistancy

PiC thReAD:


...and I just realized I still have masking tape on Mod Juan's serial number from the respray LOL
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Absolutely beautiful. Awesome photo, dude.
Link Posted: 10/16/2016 10:26:59 PM EDT
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Dang this thread moves fast.

Trying to find the info on the foam case inserts and who to contact about them.  Any help.
Link Posted: 10/16/2016 10:31:19 PM EDT
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What optics are acceptable for a mod 1? I know the leupold 112633, but golly, I'm just not sold on it, never been a huge leupold fan. I'm considering dropping a viper pst on it until I can managed the leupold...
Link Posted: 10/16/2016 10:38:47 PM EDT
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What optics are acceptable for a mod 1? I know the leupold 112633, but golly, I'm just not sold on it, never been a huge leupold fan. I'm considering dropping a viper pst on it until I can managed the leupold...
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Nightforce 2.5-10x24
Nightforce 3.5-15x50
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What optics are acceptable for a mod 1? I know the leupold 112633, but golly, I'm just not sold on it, never been a huge leupold fan. I'm considering dropping a viper pst on it until I can managed the leupold...
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Leupold Mk4 MR/T 2.5-8x36mm TS-30A2, M2 turrets with Mk262 BDC, illuminated TMR reticle or NightForce 2.5-10x24 (optionally with NightForce rings)

the Night Force C478 is the new 2.5-10x32 as the x24 is no longer made. Anything else is pretty much personal preference or a one-off in the field.
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Leupold Mk4 MR/T 2.5-8x36mm TS-30A2, M2 turrets with Mk262 BDC, illuminated TMR reticle or NightForce 2.5-10x24 (optionally with NightForce rings)

the Night Force C478 is the new 2.5-10x32 as the x24 is no longer made. Anything else is pretty much personal preference or a one-off in the field.
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Originally Posted By aaron580:
What optics are acceptable for a mod 1? I know the leupold 112633, but golly, I'm just not sold on it, never been a huge leupold fan. I'm considering dropping a viper pst on it until I can managed the leupold...



Leupold Mk4 MR/T 2.5-8x36mm TS-30A2, M2 turrets with Mk262 BDC, illuminated TMR reticle or NightForce 2.5-10x24 (optionally with NightForce rings)

the Night Force C478 is the new 2.5-10x32 as the x24 is no longer made. Anything else is pretty much personal preference or a one-off in the field.


NF is gong to do another run like they did a few years back. Call them and get on the list if interested.

EDIT: I've got a BFG sling that I intend to use on my Mod 0. Anybody have the other parts I need they wanna sell? Or advice on how/what to set it up with? The info used to be on page one but I cant find it.
Link Posted: 10/17/2016 1:08:12 PM EDT
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its been wayyyy to nice not to shoot, so i just had to break out the Mod1 and M4!
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Link Posted: 10/17/2016 2:40:53 PM EDT
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I fixed it for ya, Chincy



B T Dubz, that Mod Juan is on point, son!
Link Posted: 10/17/2016 3:21:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 8NAK4:
I fixed it for ya, Chincy

http://i1028.photobucket.com/albums/y343/Chince17/96%20Impreza%20Wagon/9DF5BBA7-AB29-4CB5-9E74-51FB3D81821A_zpsokcsvhlc.jpg

B T Dubz, that Mod Juan is on point, son!
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Working on getting this image thing down. I just figured an admin had to approve it since I'm still new to posting. Lurked for a long time just never posted till recently.
Thank you!
Link Posted: 10/17/2016 4:26:15 PM EDT
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So the lower is torn down again...for the third time in the last 10 days. TRC is on its way from brownells and secretwheelman is sending his a1 stock this week. Big thanks to him for that! Hopefully I can burn this ammo this weekend.
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Is that a NF scope on the right? I am terrible at identifying. Elcan...
Link Posted: 10/17/2016 5:38:31 PM EDT
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Is that a NF scope on the right? I am terrible at identifying. Elcan...
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Is that a NF scope on the right? I am terrible at identifying. Elcan...


Looks like 3.5-15x50
Link Posted: 10/17/2016 6:50:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By lonewolfgun:
Dang this thread moves fast.

Trying to find the info on the foam case inserts and who to contact about them.  Any help.
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http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/520524_Official_Mk12_Mod0__Mod1__ModH_Photo_and_Discussion_Thread.html&page=1410

At the bottom of page 1410. I bookmarked it... but I don't know why, I have no plans for a Pelican case.
Link Posted: 10/17/2016 7:03:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cjwwd2:
Looks like 3.5-15x50
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Originally Posted By aaron580:






Is that a NF scope on the right? I am terrible at identifying. Elcan...




Looks like 3.5-15x50




 
Correct sir.
Link Posted: 10/17/2016 8:23:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: cbfurg] [#26]
Some crappy photos but made a few changes:





I'm liking more magnification on the Mod 1. May change out the ACS stock for a Sopmod.
Link Posted: 10/17/2016 8:54:54 PM EDT
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Is the kac bipod adapter suppose to be qd? Or is spec just a bolt on? Spec bipod is a brm-s, but I'm wondering if I can get away with a larue mount.
Link Posted: 10/17/2016 8:59:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cbfurg:
Some crappy photos but made a few changes:

<a href="http://s953.photobucket.com/user/cbfurg/media/Mobile%20Uploads/1E612E32-BA01-4E24-B7CF-B224EFE0E89A.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae16/cbfurg/Mobile%20Uploads/1E612E32-BA01-4E24-B7CF-B224EFE0E89A.jpg</a>

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I'm liking more magnification on the Mod 1. May change out the ACS stock for a Sopmod.
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Nice rifles
bruh post that holland in the holland thread
Link Posted: 10/17/2016 9:02:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By aaron580:
Is the kac bipod adapter suppose to be qd? Or is spec just a bolt on? Spec bipod is a brm-s, but I'm wondering if I can get away with a larue mount.
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I ran a LaRue mount on my Mod 1 for years. I just recently switched to a KAC mount in an effort to get more legit. I'm sticking with the KAC mount, it's not as convenient as the LaRue, but I'm coming to that realization that cloning isn't about having the latest, greatest, convenient, or most ergonomic. My vote for you, go KAC bipod mount.
Link Posted: 10/17/2016 9:02:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By chenault:


Nice rifles
bruh post that holland in the holland thread
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Originally Posted By chenault:
Originally Posted By cbfurg:
Some crappy photos but made a few changes:

<a href="http://s953.photobucket.com/user/cbfurg/media/Mobile%20Uploads/1E612E32-BA01-4E24-B7CF-B224EFE0E89A.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae16/cbfurg/Mobile%20Uploads/1E612E32-BA01-4E24-B7CF-B224EFE0E89A.jpg</a>

<a href="http://s953.photobucket.com/user/cbfurg/media/Mobile%20Uploads/57908EEB-2775-47A2-81F4-1DF0DEA99E5F.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae16/cbfurg/Mobile%20Uploads/57908EEB-2775-47A2-81F4-1DF0DEA99E5F.jpg</a>

I'm liking more magnification on the Mod 1. May change out the ACS stock for a Sopmod.


Nice rifles
bruh post that holland in the holland thread


I second this.
Link Posted: 10/17/2016 9:14:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By aaron580:
Is the kac bipod adapter suppose to be qd? Or is spec just a bolt on? Spec bipod is a brm-s, but I'm wondering if I can get away with a larue mount.
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Go KAC. I've got them on both my guns and they work great but most importantly are clone legit!
Link Posted: 10/17/2016 9:15:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By chenault:


Nice rifles
bruh post that holland in the holland thread
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Originally Posted By chenault:
Originally Posted By cbfurg:
Some crappy photos but made a few changes:

<a href="http://s953.photobucket.com/user/cbfurg/media/Mobile%20Uploads/1E612E32-BA01-4E24-B7CF-B224EFE0E89A.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae16/cbfurg/Mobile%20Uploads/1E612E32-BA01-4E24-B7CF-B224EFE0E89A.jpg</a>

<a href="http://s953.photobucket.com/user/cbfurg/media/Mobile%20Uploads/57908EEB-2775-47A2-81F4-1DF0DEA99E5F.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae16/cbfurg/Mobile%20Uploads/57908EEB-2775-47A2-81F4-1DF0DEA99E5F.jpg</a>

I'm liking more magnification on the Mod 1. May change out the ACS stock for a Sopmod.


Nice rifles
bruh post that holland in the holland thread


Thanks! I'm planning on it. I just wanted to get a halfway decent pic of it first!
Link Posted: 10/17/2016 10:19:31 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/17/2016 10:42:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Zakk101abn:

  Correct sir.
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Originally Posted By cjwwd2:
Originally Posted By aaron580:


Is that a NF scope on the right? I am terrible at identifying. Elcan...


Looks like 3.5-15x50

  Correct sir.


Post some more pics of that bad boy
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 12:08:51 AM EDT
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More of these please, just love the camo!

Haven't yet decided how to camo my Mod0, but after these last 1000 pages camo it is!











Link Posted: 10/18/2016 1:39:34 AM EDT
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Has anyone here had their AEM5 Knurled after they have received it? I know Allen has been contacted before about this but he'll only do it during the manufacturing process.
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 2:18:16 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By USMC_FMJ:
Has anyone here had their AEM5 Knurled after they have received it? I know Allen has been contacted before about this but he'll only do it during the manufacturing process.
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Can't be done.
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 6:12:06 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JAR-SPR:


Can't be done.
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Originally Posted By USMC_FMJ:
Has anyone here had their AEM5 Knurled after they have received it? I know Allen has been contacted before about this but he'll only do it during the manufacturing process.


Can't be done.


Damn!
Thanks bro
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 7:33:16 AM EDT
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If anyone is interested there are a couple more Mk12 Pelican cases on Ebay........not my listing.
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 10:06:09 AM EDT
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I know that this was used on the cover of a magazine, but do we believe that this photo was taken in the wild?  I ask because I like the idea of using that scope and mount setup.  

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Link Posted: 10/18/2016 12:06:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JAR-SPR:


Can't be done.
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Originally Posted By USMC_FMJ:
Has anyone here had their AEM5 Knurled after they have received it? I know Allen has been contacted before about this but he'll only do it during the manufacturing process.


Can't be done.


Who says?

If there's enough meat on the tube run a cutting knurl on it.
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 12:52:45 PM EDT
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Why did they stop the knurling in the first place, couldn't have added that much too the cost, could it?
Anyway,, on my original 556 marked OPS 12th, I just wouldn't want it any other way.
I just love the design, function, performance, mounting and literally every other thing about it.

Edwin
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 2:23:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel:


Who says?

If there's enough meat on the tube run a cutting knurl on it.
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Originally Posted By JAR-SPR:
Originally Posted By USMC_FMJ:
Has anyone here had their AEM5 Knurled after they have received it? I know Allen has been contacted before about this but he'll only do it during the manufacturing process.


Can't be done.


Who says?

If there's enough meat on the tube run a cutting knurl on it.



Ron stated they can't do the knurling post production. Also when they moved from California they changed the coating on the suppressors and the new coating does not make the knurling standout as much as the original coating.
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 2:42:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WillysJeep:



Ron stated they can't do the knurling post production. Also when they moved from California they changed the coating on the suppressors and the new coating does not make the knurling standout as much as the original coating.
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Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel:
Originally Posted By JAR-SPR:
Originally Posted By USMC_FMJ:
Has anyone here had their AEM5 Knurled after they have received it? I know Allen has been contacted before about this but he'll only do it during the manufacturing process.


Can't be done.


Who says?

If there's enough meat on the tube run a cutting knurl on it.



Ron stated they can't do the knurling post production. Also when they moved from California they changed the coating on the suppressors and the new coating does not make the knurling standout as much as the original coating.


Uhh... what's this "knurling"? Should I forgo the aem break/collar and wait for an ops?? Please excuse my ignorance,
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 2:50:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By aaron580:


Uhh... what's this "knurling"? Should I forgo the aem break/collar and wait for an ops?? Please excuse my ignorance,
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Originally Posted By WillysJeep:
Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel:
Originally Posted By JAR-SPR:
Originally Posted By USMC_FMJ:
Has anyone here had their AEM5 Knurled after they have received it? I know Allen has been contacted before about this but he'll only do it during the manufacturing process.


Can't be done.


Who says?

If there's enough meat on the tube run a cutting knurl on it.



Ron stated they can't do the knurling post production. Also when they moved from California they changed the coating on the suppressors and the new coating does not make the knurling standout as much as the original coating.


Uhh... what's this "knurling"? Should I forgo the aem break/collar and wait for an ops?? Please excuse my ignorance,


For all intensive purposes, OPS Inc is no longer producing suppressors.

Knurling takes place preproduction, if you will. These are still offered on a special order basis. There may be some dealers out there that may have some.
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 3:48:10 PM EDT
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For all intensive purposes, OPS Inc is no longer producing suppressors.

Knurling takes place preproduction, if you will. These are still offered on a special order basis. There may be some dealers out there that may have some.
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Im slow today, gotcha. Makes sense.

Would I get flamed to much for using a PRI upper? Have been looking colt, but golly, its not worth it to me to pay 200$ or get a beat up POS "blem". Plus, the PRI looks like very good quality, just has the stupid logo on the side. Trying to stay as correct as possible...
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 3:57:12 PM EDT
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Im slow today, gotcha. Makes sense.

Would I get flamed to much for using a PRI upper? Have been looking colt, but golly, its not worth it to me to pay 200$ or get a beat up POS "blem". Plus, the PRI looks like very good quality, just has the stupid logo on the side. Trying to stay as correct as possible...
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Originally Posted By aaron580:

For all intensive purposes, OPS Inc is no longer producing suppressors.

Knurling takes place preproduction, if you will. These are still offered on a special order basis. There may be some dealers out there that may have some.


Im slow today, gotcha. Makes sense.

Would I get flamed to much for using a PRI upper? Have been looking colt, but golly, its not worth it to me to pay 200$ or get a beat up POS "blem". Plus, the PRI looks like very good quality, just has the stupid logo on the side. Trying to stay as correct as possible...


That's what spray paint is for.
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 5:00:52 PM EDT
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Im slow today, gotcha. Makes sense.

Would I get flamed to much for using a PRI upper? Have been looking colt, but golly, its not worth it to me to pay 200$ or get a beat up POS "blem". Plus, the PRI looks like very good quality, just has the stupid logo on the side. Trying to stay as correct as possible...
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Originally Posted By aaron580:

For all intensive purposes, OPS Inc is no longer producing suppressors.

Knurling takes place preproduction, if you will. These are still offered on a special order basis. There may be some dealers out there that may have some.


Im slow today, gotcha. Makes sense.

Would I get flamed to much for using a PRI upper? Have been looking colt, but golly, its not worth it to me to pay 200$ or get a beat up POS "blem". Plus, the PRI looks like very good quality, just has the stupid logo on the side. Trying to stay as correct as possible...


There is a dealer on Fb that sells uppers and BCG's. I can pm you the info
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 6:07:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HalfMeltingEyes] [#49]
For anyone who is curious, SWFA just shipped my backordered TRR and TRC.
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 7:48:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By USMC_FMJ:
Has anyone here had their AEM5 Knurled after they have received it? I know Allen has been contacted before about this but he'll only do it during the manufacturing process.
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The reason is because some times the tubes get destroyed during knurling.
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