I got the Falken AT3W on my 4runner they are great.

i had bfg ko2s, work great in north florida area with all the rain and light mud that comes with it.


recently switched to toyo open country MTs. only 250 miles on them so far so no insight really.

For what it's worth - I lived @ 6700 feet in Colorado for 3 years.  Ran BFG ATs the whole time.

There was a period for about 6 weeks one winter where I didn't take my truck out of 4wd - I didn't NEED 4wd, but I had it and it was useful so why not?

I never considered the BFG's bad in snow.  And they certainly seemed to be a popular tire for anyone who didn't run dedicated winter or studded tires.

Just put KO2s on my new Denali. They are bad ass! Had them on my last truck. Loved them.

Toyo open country at/2

My KO2's were great in the snow this past winter. Blew the Revos that I had on before out of the water.

We have the M/S2's on our 4Runner. Been pretty good tires but pricey and the sidewalls are cracking after 4 years. I just got a quote on Michelin Defender LTX's for my 2WD Ram and it was $1270 OTD. F that.

We are running two sets of the bfgs right now.

Best all round tire we've ever had.

My experience has been the Falkens are equal to the Coopers

 I love the KO2s on my 2014 outdoorsman. Getting decent milage out of them, they clean out well, and look good.

I had the original KOs on my last truck and loved them. Just don't know if I like the look anymore. 

I think I want a little less aggressive sidewall. I don't really like the look of the originals either to be honest.

The Dynapros are fantastic.

Not sure if the new BFG's have really been out enough to see how they stack up to other good tires these days.  The last generation of BFG performed miserably compared to other options.  Tires have come a long way.

I've got terra grapplers on my f250 and exo grapplers on our NV. The Terra's are good but might try the Falkens next. The guys are Carli reccomend them. I've had most of the popular AT tires, like the toyos the best so far, they are close to the Terra's.

Multiple trucks and one tire.  BFG all terrain TAs.  Great in snow, mud dirt and even on the pavement.

They just redesigned the outer edge tread about a year and a half ago.  The new ones are a little more aggressive and have a better grip.  I like them even better now.

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Anyone else running the new ones yet?

I have them on my truck, about 20k miles on them.
I really like them; they're quiet on the highway, good in the rain, and slightly muddy ground out back.
I had them in just a little snow ( 4-5" fresh snow) and they were fine.

2014 Silverado 1500, 275/55R20 ( stock size ).

General AT2

Seconded.  Running them on an F250 with plenty of off-road/mud/clay miles and just passes 50k miles.  Will replace in the next 5k or so with another set.

Aren't these Chinese knock off tires? 

Maybe be they used to be and are better now? 

I use Geolandars, but the WildPeak is AgTalk approved. Like Arf, AT agrees on very little.

I had that problem with the Terra Grapplers.  I'd never buy them again.
Like I said above, the Ridge Grapplers seem to be MUCH better in every way.

Just bought my third set the Cooper 10ply on my GMC Sierra 1500. Last set went over 70k. 

On a truck I'll never buy less than 10 ply tires again they last so much longer and are much more resistant to getting flats. 

I've had the Coopers, Nittos, and BFG's.

Nitto gets my vote.

Yep
Poll fail

Toyo Open Country

Don't know why you are getting such bad performance

I am on my third set
2004 F-350 6.0 4x4
I drive on the highway 90 miles/day
I also use them in the field and get excellent traction

Great traction, great during rain
The 65,000 mile warranty is bogus (but it is on most off road tires)
I get 40,000 miles easy
Quietest Onroad/Offroad tires I have ever had

For what it's worth - Discount Tire has been good to me about miles warranty on tires.  Buying back, or straight replacement in one case.

On occasion I've had a set that just didn't last as long as other sets.  No idea why - Friday at the plant and the mixer guy got the formulation slightly wrong, maybe.  who knows?

I tend to discount anecdotal stories about tires not lasting as long as they should.  I'm sure folks experienced it - but unless the weight of anecdotes is quite heavy i'm not sure it's systemic.

I had a set of these that I really liked.  Good in the snow, rain, dry pavement, and dirt.  Never messed around in the mud with them, however.

I gather there have been some complaints about the BFG tires wearing prematurely, tread crumbling/tearing out, etc. My SIL had a set on his truck that didn't go 6 months before having to be replaced. They just wore out much faster than they should, and tread wear warranty was useless.
YMMV

Those are good tires, gotta watch out for directional tread though.

$135 off

Coopers FTW

Nitto terra grapplers are good tires, but they consistently seperate belts around 40k which is about there tread life anyway. We keep buying nitto because they are the only manufacturer of the size tire we use.

My go to tire is bfg k02 or km2

I'm having good luck with my current Toyo's. For being such a quiet tire they are holding up real well. R/T Open Country on and F250.

Offroad traction sucks.  Nittos are way better.  Coopers blow them out of the water.
I've used them all, and the Toyos are the worst.  Yeah, they last long, and ar good on the highway, but we're talking about tires that can handle wet leaves without getting you stuck.

Toyo Open Country AT2s are the only tire I actually hate.
I love how they look, they were great on the highway, the cushy ride was awesome for an E-rated tire.

I could see if you lived in a dry climate? The Toyo Open Country AT2s are probably great.
After what happened to me with mine, I won't own them again.
Spinning the tires going straight in 4x4 at a stoplight while babying the gaspedal? Unacceptable.
Swinging the rear end out on a lazy turn (a far cry from being a bro and doing it on purpose), unacceptable.
Going uphill at low speed, going slow enough that the honda civic behind you almost bumps you, for fear that you'll spin the tires - then the truck stops climbing and the rear end slides left and right?  That's shitty wet traction.

On a few other forums you'll find guys who didn't like the tires, "They would spin when dry - wet? forget it."
Particularly the Ford Superduty guys, seems like the heavier trucks would do it.
Also seemed like canadian guys didn't care for the tire either.

Sure, you can do lots of silly shit with a pickup when you want to
When you're trying to drive like a Grandma in your factory 4x4 pickup with "all terrains" on it, on account of a simple rain?
And you can feel the traction slipping anyway?
No fucking thank you.

Granted I do have hills and a lot of stoplights in my commie-state, if I had long straight away 40mph roads as the norm? The tires probably would have been slightly less shitty in the rain - but the KO2s, on the same exact roads, with the same driver, they have not slipped in identical conditions.
I don't have to tailor my driving to "how old is this driver?" levels to work around the tires limitations. What a relief.

Dueler Revo 2s didn't do it. They were a great tire overall, good on the highway too, but snow? Wasn't the best. Dangerous? Not until you turned
General Grabber AT2s didn't do it, I liked those tires a lot.
The BF Goodrich KO2 tires (Which are only a few years old now - they are different tires than the original KOs, they are better able to evacuate debris than the older KOs) have their own quirks, but traction?
Not on the list of quirks. I'm sure I can make those tires slip too, but I'd have to try to do it vs "Oh man, 21.5mph? there we go, slip and slide city"

I didn't get very good milage on the BFG AT tires on my superduty - no heavy loads.  sub 40k.

Trying Cooper now.


I didn't have great luck with coopers on my old expedition - but the tire shop put on load range C tires (which is what is spec'd for an expedition)  I finally went to load range E tires.

I think I had 3 or 4 flats on the Exp with the load range c's  - at least 3 were from some sort of sidewall problem.  I think it's about the only rig I ever had that actually got flat tires from normal driving.

I use my trucks everyday on the farm, so they are off road a LOT. Also haul heavy loads and tow. So far nothing has compared to BFG ATs. I found them to have great wet and snow traction and dry dirt. So so in deep mud, they are not a mud tire. Mud tires arent much use to me since i tow a lot.

If you actually use your truck like a truck, they are hard to beat.

Interesting, i have ran 6 sets over the years and gotten great mileage out of all of them. I wonder if they had a bad run. You WERE using E rated tires for the super duty right?

yes.  learned my lesson on the expedition.

In my opinion, manufacturers put too light of a tire on many of the oem tires. Few trucks these days ought to be running less than D, most ought to have E.

Granted my experience is anecdotal but i think either they have had a bad run or people are running underinflated which is the worst thing you can do to a tire. I see people from time to time around here with 3/4 and 1 ton trucks with D and E rated tires running 35-40 psi

the falken wiled peaks have been a great tire to me so far. a lot of traction and no issues in rainy weather. really recommend them.

biggest issue why they are not as popular is because they are only been out 2 years and seems like a lot of people are still waiting for the longevity of the tire but imo at the price they are and seeing that some others that have 10k miles on them and have little ware keeps my hopes up.



im thinking you are talking about the old style ones that were a POS to say the least. these are the redesigned ones that came out 2 years ago.  

For what it's worth - I am HARD on tires.  I don't rotate.  I check air when I feel like it, which is pretty much when I can feel a tire getting low. I'm not afraid to push hard on either peddle.  I go fast.  

I read his post and sorta figured "Well hell - 40k sounds about right to me."


Maybe my feel of it is maladjusted.  But I'm generally happy with 50k on an ALL TERRAIN tire.  If I really wanted to get 80k miles - i'd buy a light truck street tire.

You can get away with that if you dont put much load on them, but youd be asking for a world of hurt towing. Underinflation creates heat, and heat kills tires. Plus you would get better mileage if you keep em aired up.

Im thinking these are a good option. Muuuuuch less expensive than the BFG AT. 

And now since a couple guys mentioned Toyo those AT/II's are growing in me.

Another vote for Toyo Open Country's, just put a set on my F250.

I've had the BF Goodrich KO2s on my RAM or about 10K miles now. They still look new. Great all around tire for snow/rain/light off-roading such as PA gameland roads. 

I'm running them. Great tire!

If you actually need and all terrain tire, as opposed to just wanting the look of an all terrain tire, then the appearance of the tire shouldn't even be a consideration.