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Posted: 7/18/2017 10:13:22 PM EDT
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Schefter is one of the biggest shit stirrers at ESPN making play as a legitimate reporter. He'll make bold claims based on nothing but nameless "sources." Then, more often than not it seems, his claims turn out to be bullshit. No retractions. No admissions that he was wrong. Just more bullshit based on nameless "sources." I remember him ranting for over a week how it was imminent that Dez was going to get a long suspension for beating up someone at Walmart. He claimed there was a security video. He claimed there was cell phone video. He claimed there were multiple witnesses. Days went by... nothing. Weeks went by... nothing. Months went by... nothing. Years went by... nothing. The imminent suspension is coming any day now I'm sure. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"Elliott in vicinity of club fight and appeals speeding ticket from two months ago" doesn't have quite the same ring to it as "Elliott beats up man at club and gets pulled over driving 100 mph." I was at the gym and ESPN was on and it was joke the way they were talking about. No charges, no arrests, and the guy that got laid out couldn't even identity who hit him. And yet they were ranting about how Jason Garrett needs to bench Zeke, make an example of him, etc. as if he had already been found guilty. I'm not saying he did or didn't do it. I wasn't there. But when the victim is saying he doesn't know what happened and there is no proof of what did happen maybe, just maybe, wait for the facts to come out. Or, you know, just go all Nancy Grace on it. 2016 DV allegation 2016 boob scandal 2017 speeding ticket 2017 bar fight allegation Like I said, even if all 4 of these are unfounded, doesn't it at least beg the question about his decision making or the company he keeps? This isn't anything new for NFL players and I'm NOT saying Elliott is the next Vick/Pacman/etc., but I dunno. Sometimes people are just shit magnets. The boob scandal has been a while ago, how could the NFL possibly be still "investigating" that? If they were going to discipline on that hand it down already. I can't recall a player getting suspended for a speeding ticket, that seems lame and as HK points out why are the fake news trying to make it sound like it just happened? The club incident happened after Schefter got everybody buzzing about suspension talk, but I've seen nothing solid on even an accusation. In any case this one is too recent for the possible lengthy suspension buzz that's suddenly going around now. I remember him ranting for over a week how it was imminent that Dez was going to get a long suspension for beating up someone at Walmart. He claimed there was a security video. He claimed there was cell phone video. He claimed there were multiple witnesses. Days went by... nothing. Weeks went by... nothing. Months went by... nothing. Years went by... nothing. The imminent suspension is coming any day now I'm sure. |
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Posted: 7/18/2017 10:15:37 PM EDT
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Meanwhile, with cowboy training camp out in Oxnard, I'm loving this 'fan' behind me (at football practice for my son) who wants to go see 'Ezeeekeeal even though he's in trouble and Dax even though he may have some domestic violence trouble'
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Posted: 7/18/2017 10:20:46 PM EDT
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He works for the shittiest sports outlet around, seems par for the course at good ole ESPN. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"Elliott in vicinity of club fight and appeals speeding ticket from two months ago" doesn't have quite the same ring to it as "Elliott beats up man at club and gets pulled over driving 100 mph." I was at the gym and ESPN was on and it was joke the way they were talking about. No charges, no arrests, and the guy that got laid out couldn't even identity who hit him. And yet they were ranting about how Jason Garrett needs to bench Zeke, make an example of him, etc. as if he had already been found guilty. I'm not saying he did or didn't do it. I wasn't there. But when the victim is saying he doesn't know what happened and there is no proof of what did happen maybe, just maybe, wait for the facts to come out. Or, you know, just go all Nancy Grace on it. 2016 DV allegation 2016 boob scandal 2017 speeding ticket 2017 bar fight allegation Like I said, even if all 4 of these are unfounded, doesn't it at least beg the question about his decision making or the company he keeps? This isn't anything new for NFL players and I'm NOT saying Elliott is the next Vick/Pacman/etc., but I dunno. Sometimes people are just shit magnets. The boob scandal has been a while ago, how could the NFL possibly be still "investigating" that? If they were going to discipline on that hand it down already. I can't recall a player getting suspended for a speeding ticket, that seems lame and as HK points out why are the fake news trying to make it sound like it just happened? The club incident happened after Schefter got everybody buzzing about suspension talk, but I've seen nothing solid on even an accusation. In any case this one is too recent for the possible lengthy suspension buzz that's suddenly going around now. I remember him ranting for over a week how it was imminent that Dez was going to get a long suspension for beating up someone at Walmart. He claimed there was a security video. He claimed there was cell phone video. He claimed there were multiple witnesses. Days went by... nothing. Weeks went by... nothing. Months went by... nothing. Years went by... nothing. The imminent suspension is coming any day now I'm sure. |
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Posted: 7/18/2017 10:24:05 PM EDT
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Meanwhile, with cowboy training camp out in Oxnard, I'm loving this 'fan' behind me (at football practice for my son) who wants to go see 'Ezeeekeeal even though he's in trouble and Dax even though he may have some domestic violence trouble' |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 2:14:35 PM EDT
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Panthers hired Marty Hurney to be their interim GM. The same Marty Hurney the Panthers fired as their GM 4 years ago.
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Posted: 7/19/2017 3:00:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/19/2017 4:52:10 PM EDT
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The case was dismissed about half a decade ago. Dez has had his shit together for years (knock on wood). Hopefully Zeke can follow suit. And hey, if nothing else at least they have a young QB that's mature beyond his years and, by all accounts, a great leader. Not one that has had 7 years to get his act together and still acts like a petulant child and gets benched for missing curfew before a game because he was at a titty bar.  |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 4:54:33 PM EDT
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Panthers hired Marty Hurney to be their interim GM. The same Marty Hurney the Panthers fired as their GM 4 years ago. Really think it was the Davis contract that was the real driving force, TD is what defines the teams as far as heart and effort. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 6:03:53 PM EDT
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Schefter is one of the biggest shit stirrers at ESPN making play as a legitimate reporter. He'll make bold claims based on nothing but nameless "sources." Then, more often than not it seems, his claims turn out to be bullshit. No retractions. No admissions that he was wrong. Just more bullshit based on nameless "sources." I remember him ranting for over a week how it was imminent that Dez was going to get a long suspension for beating up someone at Walmart. He claimed there was a security video. He claimed there was cell phone video. He claimed there were multiple witnesses. Days went by... nothing. Weeks went by... nothing. Months went by... nothing. Years went by... nothing. The imminent suspension is coming any day now I'm sure. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 6:21:07 PM EDT
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He's the worst "journalist" at ESPN, I was disappointed that he wasn't let go in the big layoff. I actively avoid any article or video with his name on it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Schefter is one of the biggest shit stirrers at ESPN making play as a legitimate reporter. He'll make bold claims based on nothing but nameless "sources." Then, more often than not it seems, his claims turn out to be bullshit. No retractions. No admissions that he was wrong. Just more bullshit based on nameless "sources." I remember him ranting for over a week how it was imminent that Dez was going to get a long suspension for beating up someone at Walmart. He claimed there was a security video. He claimed there was cell phone video. He claimed there were multiple witnesses. Days went by... nothing. Weeks went by... nothing. Months went by... nothing. Years went by... nothing. The imminent suspension is coming any day now I'm sure. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 6:27:48 PM EDT
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The fact that they fired guys like John Clayton and Trent Dilfer while giving guys like Stephan A Smith and Max Kellerman promotions speaks volumes about where that company is headed. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 6:33:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/19/2017 6:43:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/19/2017 6:45:24 PM EDT
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Meanwhile Jaguars DE Dante Fowler was arrested last night after he reportedly got out of car, started yelling at a man, hit him, stomped on his prescription glasses, picked up the man's grocery bag, and then threw it into a lake.
Strange, nothing about it on ESPN's homepage. Hmm... 
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Posted: 7/19/2017 7:46:25 PM EDT
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Meanwhile Jaguars DE Dante Fowler was arrested last night after he reportedly got out of car, started yelling at a man, hit him, stomped on his prescription glasses, picked up the man's grocery bag, and then threw it into a lake. Strange, nothing about it on ESPN's homepage. Hmm... Quote HistoryQuoted:
Meanwhile Jaguars DE Dante Fowler was arrested last night after he reportedly got out of car, started yelling at a man, hit him, stomped on his prescription glasses, picked up the man's grocery bag, and then threw it into a lake. Strange, nothing about it on ESPN's homepage. Hmm...
Jaguars DC Todd Wash said 2015 No. 3 overall pick Dante Fowler "has matured a lot."
"He is more focused on the little details," Wash said. "You just see a young man mature, which is really good to see because he is a good football player." Fowler was whistled for eight penalties last season including three offsides in just 570 snaps. He will need to be more disciplined moving forward to reach his potential, but it sounds like he is on the right track. |
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Posted: 7/20/2017 2:30:24 AM EDT
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Meanwhile, with cowboy training camp out in Oxnard, I'm loving this 'fan' behind me (at football practice for my son) who wants to go see 'Ezeeekeeal even though he's in trouble and Dax even though he may have some domestic violence trouble' |
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Posted: 7/20/2017 2:32:36 AM EDT
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The fact that they fired guys like John Clayton and Trent Dilfer while giving guys like Stephan A Smith and Max Kellerman promotions speaks volumes about where that company is headed. |
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Posted: 7/20/2017 2:32:03 PM EDT
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I can't see your image. The tweet I referenced seemed to suggest it happened over the weekend in addition to the bar fight. You know Dallas reporters/insideres better than I do. Is this guy legit or fake news?
but he's a cowboy, meaning that this story has more national media significance than a bengal, eagle, or titan discovering the cure for cancer. |
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Posted: 7/20/2017 2:38:14 PM EDT
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This whole situation is interesting. Is Elliott a victim of people piling on and making mountains out of molehills or do we take all these incidents (completely unfounded or not) and say that this guy either puts himself in bad situations or around the wrong people. 2016 DV allegation 2016 boob scandal 2017 speeding ticket 2017 bar fight allegation Like I said, even if all 4 of these are unfounded, doesn't it at least beg the question about his decision making or the company he keeps? This isn't anything new for NFL players and I'm NOT saying Elliott is the next Vick/Pacman/etc., but I dunno. Sometimes people are just shit magnets. 
aside from the DV (which appears to be a blackmail attempt), there aren't too many current or former 21 year old men who don't have a ticket, a fight, and drunk public nookie on his resume. granted, he needs to be smarter, but we all did at that age. the only difference is that the media weren't making money running down stories on you and me. |
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Posted: 7/20/2017 2:59:56 PM EDT
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OJ Simpson was just granted parole. He served 9 years of a 33 year sentence.
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Posted: 7/20/2017 4:16:01 PM EDT
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OJ Simpson was just granted parole. He served 9 years of a 33 year sentence. |
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Posted: 7/20/2017 4:36:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/20/2017 4:39:43 PM EDT
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Two years after Cam Newton begged him to join his team the Panthers have released Michael Oher. Reportedly it has to do with a failed physical resulting from concussion issues.
This has "lawsuit" written all over it. |
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Posted: 7/20/2017 4:57:25 PM EDT
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Michael Vick simply said that Kaepernick getting a hair cut might improve the chances that an NFL team would sign him and apparently now that means he is an Uncle Tom who hates black people.
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Posted: 7/20/2017 5:38:10 PM EDT
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I understand the sports media has a hard on for talking about the Cowboys and for trying to make issues and debates appear much more significant than they are, but seriously, Tony Romo in the Hall of Fame? I don't even know any Cowboys fans that think he should get in and yet the sports media is acting like this is a legitimate debate going on.
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Posted: 7/20/2017 6:43:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/20/2017 9:07:33 PM EDT
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The fact that they fired guys like John Clayton and Trent Dilfer while giving guys like Stephan A Smith and Max Kellerman promotions speaks volumes about where that company is headed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Schefter is one of the biggest shit stirrers at ESPN making play as a legitimate reporter. He'll make bold claims based on nothing but nameless "sources." Then, more often than not it seems, his claims turn out to be bullshit. No retractions. No admissions that he was wrong. Just more bullshit based on nameless "sources." I remember him ranting for over a week how it was imminent that Dez was going to get a long suspension for beating up someone at Walmart. He claimed there was a security video. He claimed there was cell phone video. He claimed there were multiple witnesses. Days went by... nothing. Weeks went by... nothing. Months went by... nothing. Years went by... nothing. The imminent suspension is coming any day now I'm sure. |
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Posted: 7/20/2017 9:17:13 PM EDT
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Probably who they could get the cheapest. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Schefter is one of the biggest shit stirrers at ESPN making play as a legitimate reporter. He'll make bold claims based on nothing but nameless "sources." Then, more often than not it seems, his claims turn out to be bullshit. No retractions. No admissions that he was wrong. Just more bullshit based on nameless "sources." I remember him ranting for over a week how it was imminent that Dez was going to get a long suspension for beating up someone at Walmart. He claimed there was a security video. He claimed there was cell phone video. He claimed there were multiple witnesses. Days went by... nothing. Weeks went by... nothing. Months went by... nothing. Years went by... nothing. The imminent suspension is coming any day now I'm sure. |
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Posted: 7/21/2017 2:14:51 AM EDT
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Michael Vick simply said that Kaepernick getting a hair cut might improve the chances that an NFL team would sign him and apparently now that means he is an Uncle Tom who hates black people. |
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Posted: 7/21/2017 2:15:21 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/21/2017 12:43:21 PM EDT
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Are we there yet?
I'm so sick of reading about non play related stories. Idgaf about any of this off field shit. |
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Posted: 7/21/2017 12:45:51 PM EDT
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Are we there yet? I'm so sick of reading about non play related stories. Idgaf about any of this off field shit. 48 days until kick off. |
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Posted: 7/21/2017 2:59:46 PM EDT
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Doesn't seem like there are many fellow Broncos fans around here. I still can't make heads or tails of WTF they're doing at QB. Neither guy is starter quality.
Elway is a smart smart man and he got Peyton Fucking Manning for god's sake. Any chance he's waiting for the right time to go after Cousins? Cousins is still only 28 but wait much longer and you risk him injured or the Redskins clean house and get a competent front end and they sign him to a big money, long term deal. |
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Posted: 7/21/2017 3:10:39 PM EDT
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Doesn't seem like there are many fellow Broncos fans around here. I still can't make heads or tails of WTF they're doing at QB. Neither guy is starter quality. Elway is a smart smart man and he got Peyton Fucking Manning for god's sake. Any chance he's waiting for the right time to go after Cousins? Cousins is still only 28 but wait much longer and you risk him injured or the Redskins clean house and get a competent front end and they sign him to a big money, long term deal. |
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Posted: 7/21/2017 3:19:14 PM EDT
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If Cousins (assuming he doesn't suck in 2017) hits the open market there is no realistic chance the Broncos could match the Browns or 49ers. Probably the only way they'd get Cousins as an UFA is if he was willing to take a significantly lower offer to play for a team that wasn't horrible and even then the Broncos would likely have to release some players to pay for it. But you're right, if Cousins is playing it smart and waiting for a good K, he's not likely feel the need to take a big cut in order to chase a ring. Maybe 5 years down the road, but probably not now. |
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Posted: 7/21/2017 3:26:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/21/2017 3:28:59 PM EDT
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I need to find a site that breakdowns cap room or whatever. With Peyton gone and Ware gone, seems to me only big contracts left are Von Miller and D. Thomas. Plus over the last few years other guys (mainly defense) went to other teams. Now that I"m thinking about it though I think Brandon Marshall re-signed in 15 or 16 for a new big money extension. But you're right, if Cousins is playing it smart and waiting for a good K, he's not likely feel the need to take a big cut in order to chase a ring. Maybe 5 years down the road, but probably not now. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If Cousins (assuming he doesn't suck in 2017) hits the open market there is no realistic chance the Broncos could match the Browns or 49ers. Probably the only way they'd get Cousins as an UFA is if he was willing to take a significantly lower offer to play for a team that wasn't horrible and even then the Broncos would likely have to release some players to pay for it. But you're right, if Cousins is playing it smart and waiting for a good K, he's not likely feel the need to take a big cut in order to chase a ring. Maybe 5 years down the road, but probably not now. https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space |
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Posted: 7/21/2017 10:53:04 PM EDT
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If Cousins (assuming he doesn't suck in 2017) hits the open market there is no realistic chance the Broncos could match the Browns or 49ers. Probably the only way they'd get Cousins as an UFA is if he was willing to take a significantly lower offer to play for a team that wasn't horrible and even then the Broncos would likely have to release some players to pay for it. But you're right, if Cousins is playing it smart and waiting for a good K, he's not likely feel the need to take a big cut in order to chase a ring. Maybe 5 years down the road, but probably not now. https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space |
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Posted: 7/21/2017 11:17:09 PM EDT
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can't money be offset, too, in signing bonuses or other bonuses? like say a player is under contract for $15 mil next season, isn't a team able to restructure, make $10 mil a bonus at the start of the season and it won't go against they cap? |
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Posted: 7/21/2017 11:26:58 PM EDT
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If Cousins (assuming he doesn't suck in 2017) hits the open market there is no realistic chance the Broncos could match the Browns or 49ers. Probably the only way they'd get Cousins as an UFA is if he was willing to take a significantly lower offer to play for a team that wasn't horrible and even then the Broncos would likely have to release some players to pay for it. But you're right, if Cousins is playing it smart and waiting for a good K, he's not likely feel the need to take a big cut in order to chase a ring. Maybe 5 years down the road, but probably not now. https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space While it's not impossible for the Broncos to sign Cousins they would have to make many sacrifices to do it. Plus whatever they did the Browns and 49ers would just offer more anyway. |
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Posted: 7/21/2017 11:36:47 PM EDT
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another fun fact for you Hunter-Killer.. John Wall, the Washington Wizards franchise player just signed a $170 mil extension to stay with the team through 2023. you'll never guess his favorite football team..
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Posted: 7/22/2017 12:01:34 AM EDT
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another fun fact for you Hunter-Killer.. John Wall, the Washington Wizards franchise player just signed a $170 mil extension to stay with the team through 2023. you'll never guess his favorite football team..
What makes it even funnier is that neither of them were born or grew up anywhere even close to Dallas. Harper was born and grew up in Nevada and Wall was born and grew up in North Carolina. Also they are both in their mid 20's so it's not like they jumped on the bandwagon while the Cowboys were rattling off Super Bowl wins in the 90's. |
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Posted: 7/22/2017 1:58:02 AM EDT
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While looking up that Bryce Harper/Dak clip I might have seen something about that.
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https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_960w/2010-2019/Wires/Images/2016-09-18/AP/Cowboys_Redskins_Football-1b492.jpg&w=480 What makes it even funnier is that neither of them were born or grew up anywhere even close to Dallas. Harper was born and grew up in Nevada and Wall was born and grew up in North Carolina. Also they are both in their mid 20's so it's not like they jumped on the bandwagon while the Cowboys were rattling off Super Bowl wins in the 90's. |
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Posted: 7/24/2017 2:23:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/24/2017 2:25:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryPulling a Joseph Randle. Hopefully he wasn't stealing underwear and Guilty Black.
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Posted: 7/24/2017 2:34:38 PM EDT
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Was it crab legs ?
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Posted: 7/24/2017 5:51:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryHe needed it for ransoming his kidnapped dog.
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Posted: 7/24/2017 6:30:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/24/2017 6:33:35 PM EDT
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and apparently Rappaport is now saying cowboys cut whitehead.
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Posted: 7/24/2017 6:41:32 PM EDT
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and apparently Rappaport is now saying cowboys cut whitehead. edit: and as soon as i post that, fish (best beat guy and present in oxnard) just tweeted that whitehead has been notified that he's cut. mosher confirms. now confirmed through lucky's agent. |
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