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Because there was severe damage to the spillway downstream of the gates. If it erodes uphill it could damage the dam itself. They ran it as hard as they thought was safe. If the emergency spillway was built correctly the plan would probably have worked. They are getting hit with a triple whammy. Too much water failure of the primary spillway failure of the emergency spillway. Now they are having to take chances beyond what is reasonable and prudent because they are running out of options. View Quote |
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I'm betting it'll hold and everyone in govt will be called hero's and disaster was averted by all the smart brave govt employees and govt officials. All else that happened before this will be forgotten. View Quote And then later this week, the rain runoff will overflow the system again, the spillway WILL fail, another vac will be called, and people will ignore it because they cried wolf.... Wonderful. |
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My goodness, been watching for some time now. The volume of water is crazy...
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View Quote Wow |
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Is the E spillway that is in trouble or is it the parking area to the left. That looks to be a poorly designed and looks like it can just wash out around that left side unless it's all bedrock.
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I flipped through the cable news channels about 10 minutes ago and their was no mention of this.
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SO WHERE IS THE FUCKING HOLE? SHOW SOME IMAGES YOU FUCKTARDS. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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so theres a hole in the ESpillway, that has not gotten worse as bad as they though it may. They may try and drop rocks into the hole with helicopters. so may not boom now, but no way they can fix it before next rain storm. SO WHERE IS THE FUCKING HOLE? SHOW SOME IMAGES YOU FUCKTARDS. |
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I have attended some arfcom NorCal shoots in Yolo. We have some arfcommers in the path. Hope they are ok. Prayers out to them. View Quote I'm 2 hours south of Oroville and don't expect any issues here, but I have family in Marysville, my youngest son is at school in Rocklin, and friends throughout the valley. |
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View Quote Yeah, that's what I said when I clicked the link. |
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At what point do you start identifying areas where you make controlled failures to prevent it from being worse when it fails on it's own accord?
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And then later this week, the rain runoff will overflow the system again, the spillway WILL fail, another vac will be called, and people will ignore it because they cried wolf.... Wonderful. View Quote unless they can drop the water level far enough to actually access and fix the problem people aint going home. could be months. |
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We had a press conference like this in 2010. Army Corps of engineers said everything would be fine. It wasn't. View Quote I'm reminded of the news conferences in Japan after the 2011 tsunami where they talked about how the nuclear power plant that was hit by the wave was safe and everything was under control. |
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predicted every home invasion ever. If you had said "the idiots running the show are going to mess the up to the point of causing a structure failure" then that would have been a prediction. View Quote I said that on page 6 or 8 or somewhere early in the thread. They should have opened up the spillway, not use the Emergency Spillway as "Auxillary". The "Auxillary Spillway" took offense to the name they gave it, so it is changing it's name back. |
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View Quote How about a LARGE image? |
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If you guys have police scanner apps or use the website radioreference, there are two streams of LEO/FD radios.
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The communities being evacuated (and presumably about to get flooded)...
Sanctuary cities or not? |
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Was it page 77 that had the construction drawings for the weir?
can someone post those on here? And the big question, is the "DD" section (the tallest part) of the e-spillway sitting on granite, or is it sitting on fill, in which case is the erosion undercutting? |
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In on 100.
I hope it holds long enough for everyone to evacuate. |
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Full is defined as 900 feet. It's not that they have to use the spill way at 84%. That's when they can use it. Spillway is at 811 ft if I remember correctly View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I could not find the specs for the spillway elevation. The closest info that I saw was at 84% of full they have to use it. That would suggest that the spillway is even lower than that. Since full is not defined either there really isn't a number. If they started running water on Tuesday then you could guess it was 84% full that day. So whatever that elevation was will get you close. Full is defined as 900 feet. It's not that they have to use the spill way at 84%. That's when they can use it. Spillway is at 811 ft if I remember correctly The one article I read said the regulatory agency required them to start releasing at 84%. Who knows if they got their facts right. If it is 811 then they had a lot of room that they could have been pulling water. I used Google to pull a specific days results and found info that they were trying to maintain an elevation of 850ft for the lake on Tuesday. Also on Tuesday the spillway was supposed to be running at 70,000 cfs with an inflow of 130,000 cfs but instead they shut it off. |
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I have attended some arfcom NorCal shoots in Yolo. We have some arfcommers in the path. Hope they are ok. Prayers out to them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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My family in Sutter/Yuba City/Marysville are evac'ing as we speak. Sorry Man. God's Speed to them. I have attended some arfcom NorCal shoots in Yolo. We have some arfcommers in the path. Hope they are ok. Prayers out to them. Yes they are. No one needs this soup sandwich. |
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Looks like there's a few helos on station. Anyone think they can find a live feed, or might it be LEO or some other agency that we won't have access to?
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View Quote until water level drops a lot they cannot determine if its a crack in the concrete ( bad but not worst case) or undercutting or a failure at bedrock level. (oh fuck) |
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This is exactly what i just said to the wife. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Look at the government response to this, compare it to reality, and burn that into your head. When there's some emergency where you live, REMEMBER THIS. You need to pay attention and look out for yourself. Don't rely on the government or national media for information. Have a plan in case you have to bug out. This is exactly what i just said to the wife. yep. |
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Cause it ain't failed yet! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/327183/IMG-7100-145645.JPG God Damned stupid motherfuckers. Open that primary spillway all the way. |
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Once the parking lot fails, it's all going to go. It'll look like a piece of weather stripping getting pulled off.
None of that complex is moored to the bedrock. |
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