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Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:49:57 PM EDT
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You every try to protect a sand castle as the tide rolls in?

It'll end up like that.....except there will be a fuck load of bodies.
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Lots of rocks, right fucking now, with every rock and helicopter they can find.


You every try to protect a sand castle as the tide rolls in?

It'll end up like that.....except there will be a fuck load of bodies.

Yes I have. It's not good.
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:50:12 PM EDT
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WOW dam
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:50:16 PM EDT
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Same to your family.

I'm 2 hours south of Oroville and don't expect any issues here, but I have family in Marysville, my youngest son is at school in Rocklin, and friends throughout the valley.
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I have attended some arfcom NorCal shoots in Yolo.  We have some arfcommers in the path.  Hope they are ok.  Prayers out to them.
Same to your family.

I'm 2 hours south of Oroville and don't expect any issues here, but I have family in Marysville, my youngest son is at school in Rocklin, and friends throughout the valley.




Don't be complacent. Not likely an issue for us, but KCRA 3 puts us in the flood warning(assuming they are right).
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:50:24 PM EDT
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Maybe now is not the time for it to be a high priority but I would have to think most people in the area that would be affected by a failure do not have flood insurance.
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:50:28 PM EDT
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The spillway and Espillway will be destroyed and the actual dam will be spared.
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Which means that the dam pretty much doesn't exist, and any rain makes flood.  Any snow melt makes flood.
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:50:37 PM EDT
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100

nope
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:50:38 PM EDT
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Look at the drainage basin that feeds into Lake Oroville.  All the coming rain (and snowmelt) in that basin will be coming.


Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:50:57 PM EDT
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I flipped through the cable news channels about 10 minutes ago and their was no mention of this.  
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Grammys.
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:51:02 PM EDT
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Wow.  Thanks.
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Yes, evac order just issued to all residents in Yuba City, Sutter County, Marysville, Yuba County, live Oak, Gridley.

Wow.  Thanks.
Holy shit! Stay safe, you all. 
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:51:28 PM EDT
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God Damned stupid motherfuckers. Open that primary spillway all the way.
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Cause it ain't failed yet!


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God Damned stupid motherfuckers. Open that primary spillway all the way.

No kidding.  They said the water over the emergency spillway is now only 2 inches, yet they are only running the spillway at 100,000cfs instead of 250,000cfs.

It is like they are trying to cut this as close as possible.  
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:51:42 PM EDT
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In on 100?

Edit, nope
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:51:52 PM EDT
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They're gonna need a lot of rocks.
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:52:07 PM EDT
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Got pictures?
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Still looks fine on live feed
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:52:16 PM EDT
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Sheriff just said they are going to use helicopters to drop bags of rocks into the crack.  
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:52:16 PM EDT
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Don't be complacent. Not likely an issue for us, but KCRA 3 puts us in the flood warning(assuming they are right).
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I have Alamo Creek running right behind the house.  I've had the important shit packed up ready to go since the first series of storms.
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:52:19 PM EDT
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You serious, Clark?
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:52:26 PM EDT
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If the dam fails, how far will the flood waters likely reach?
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:52:33 PM EDT
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Which means that the dam pretty much doesn't exist, and any rain makes flood.  Any snow melt makes flood.
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True, but it makes for a gentle flood compared to the "mother nature's fuck you all hatestorm of water" that would happen if the actual dam catastrophically failed.
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:52:50 PM EDT
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they were trying to shield that area next to the road to armor it from imminent damage and the "floor" where the water falls
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Why do that? It's all going to wash away.


They knew their castle was built on sand.
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:52:51 PM EDT
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That has to be the dumbest idea I have ever seen in this mess.
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I swear it was on for 30 seconds.
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:52:54 PM EDT
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I'm sorry. Did I just hear the Sheriff say that the Government DID NOT have flood models in case the E Spillway failed?

Fuck jail, these people need to be shot.
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:53:11 PM EDT
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You serious, Clark?
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You serious, Clark?
I commented on it a page or 2 back.  I couldn't believe my ears.  I posted asking if I really hear that or what.
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:53:21 PM EDT
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The communities being evacuated (and presumably about to get flooded)...

Sanctuary cities or not?
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Everything in danger is Red California. State of Jefferson. 
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:53:35 PM EDT
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I have to ask WTF is the Sheriff giving a news conference, I would want to hear from maybe a Engineer or a Helicopter Pilot to gtfo
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Often during disasters such as this the executive officers, for involved agencies, such as the police chief, sheriff, public health, fire chief, etc. get in a pissing match over who is "in charge" and the "incident commander" because they want the media attention for themselves and their department/agency (because they know that translates into political capital). It was a total shit show during that bridge collapse in Minnesota with police and fire leadership getting into it over who was in charge. Was like a dick comparison contest to see who had the bigger badge or mobile command center. 
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:53:35 PM EDT
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No way. Too little, too late. 
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Lots of rocks, right fucking now, with every rock and helicopter they can find.
No way. Too little, too late. 

Agreed.
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:53:37 PM EDT
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In on 1

In on 101
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:53:38 PM EDT
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Same to your family.

I'm 2 hours south of Oroville and don't expect any issues here, but I have family in Marysville, my youngest son is at school in Rocklin, and friends throughout the valley.
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Pardner, if this fucker lets go...it'll flood everything down to the San Francisco Bay. We're talking tens of millions of acre feet of water. 

If the espillway breaches, it'll eat out a hole that will keep getting wider and deeper, until it drains the entire lake. Catastrophic failure means the dam is or will be breached. 

Keep your head on a swivel!!
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:53:59 PM EDT
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Been here since page 1!

In on 100!
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Same. 
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:54:24 PM EDT
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That has to be the dumbest idea I have ever seen in this mess.
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Top men are on the job!
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:54:27 PM EDT
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How about a LARGE image?
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Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:54:31 PM EDT
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I have Alamo Creek running right behind the house.  I've had the important shit packed up ready to go since the first series of storms.
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find your elevation, and find the elevation of your evac route. In a serious flood, high enough ground, not distance is key.
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:54:33 PM EDT
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I'm no fan of California, but I hope their are no lives lost from this clusterfuck.
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The communities being evacuated (and presumably about to get flooded)...

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Eat a dick.
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:54:33 PM EDT
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And then later this week, the rain runoff will overflow the system again, the spillway WILL fail, another vac will be called, and people will ignore it because they cried wolf....

Wonderful.
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If I were Sheriff there would be no return to Oroville until the lake water level is well below the failure point of the spillway.
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:54:35 PM EDT
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If the dam proper fails, it'd find it's way to SF bay eventually.
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They mean to pretend they're doing something worthwhile.

They could drop rail cars full of quickcrete and it wouldn't help.
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:54:46 PM EDT
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They're taking advice from the ACOE with lessons learned the Katrina levee breaks now huh?
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:54:48 PM EDT
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Pacific, prolly.
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Seriously?

Dropping rocks by helicopter?   Is that even possible to drop enough rocks to make a damn bit of difference?
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:55:19 PM EDT
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The UC should have already filed an ICS resource request for that.

He could have assets there in a heart beat from AIRSTA Sacramento after approval.
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Ain't nobody got time fo T cards
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:55:23 PM EDT
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Quoting this guy's excellent post:

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I commented on it a page or 2 back.  I couldn't believe my ears.  I posted asking if I really hear that or what.
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Let's put aside the asinine-ness for a sec and assume this may help.  Rewind to Wednesday and get-a-going.  Are there any rocks in Cali or no?  Might be better to drop all that salmon caviar.
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They're gonna need a lot of rocks.
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They're gonna need a lot of rocks.

they need a bunch of these, then fill in the gaps with concrete/grout


Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:55:47 PM EDT
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Everything in danger is Red California. State of Jefferson. 
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The communities being evacuated (and presumably about to get flooded)...

Sanctuary cities or not?
Everything in danger is Red California. State of Jefferson. 


Looks like Sacramento County is the nearest sanctuary.
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:56:14 PM EDT
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Seriously?

Dropping rocks by helicopter?   Is that even possible to drop enough rocks to make a damn bit of difference?
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Seriously?

Dropping rocks by helicopter?   Is that even possible to drop enough rocks to make a damn bit of difference?
[snicker]
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 10:56:29 PM EDT
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God Damned stupid motherfuckers. Open that primary spillway all the way.
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Primary is running full bore. It's still running over the top and undermining the face of the espillway. The state is already calling this a catastrophic failure. 
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Often during disasters such as this the executive officers, for involved agencies, such as the police chief, sheriff, public health, fire chief, etc. get in a pissing match over who is "in charge" and the "incident commander" because they want the media attention for themselves and their department/agency (because they know that translates into political capital). It was a total shit show during that bridge collapse in Minnesota with police and fire leadership getting into it over who was in charge. Was like a dick comparison contest to see who had the bigger badge or mobile command center. 
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And frankly every time the engineers have spoken over the past few days it has been a bunch of BS. 
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