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Posted: 2/19/2017 9:13:58 AM EDT
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All this talk about examining the spillway. The last examination was done "Visually, from a distance". After reading a bit more about how they used FlexSeal to keep water out of the tunnels as a permanent fix,the inspection probably consisted of glancing at Google Earth. Nope, you could see cracks in Google Earth, so it can't be that |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 9:14:25 AM EDT
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They would have known to move the salmon as soon as the spillway hole open up. The dirt, debris, and possible high water flow from that would have been enough to cause major problems. The sediment clogs pumps and hatcheries have all sorts of pumps, sprayers, nozzles...etc. which would have been clogged. Move the fish so they can turn it all off and everything will be fine. I think the sheriff made a smart call on evac order after getting bullshit answers from DWR all day long. Much easier to evac 200,000 people at 6pm than 2am. But DWR knew they were going to use the spillway several days before, they prepped the ground for it. They drug their feet opening up the spillway to 100,000 cfs and created the whole mess. Had they opened it from 55,000 to 100,000 cfs just 4 hours earlier, during daylight hours, the water would have stopped flowing over the weir well before dark and before their "60 minutes until your town is flooded" tweet. She sheriff seemed to be only one thinking "what if something doesn't go as planned". That sheriff is the single bright spot in California government right now. I hope he is getting a lot of support. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 9:27:03 AM EDT
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Man I am tired,put in 80 hours this week loading out rock to repair the twenty mile dam this was supposed to last 3-4 weeks now they're saying 3-4 months
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Posted: 2/19/2017 9:35:35 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/19/2017 10:37:59 AM EDT
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I would think they have bigger problems than worrying about pictures being taken right now. Know they have to find someone else to do the job of the fired people. Fire them later shit need to be fixed first. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The contractor fired their own employees who leaked data. If a leaked photo causes problems for the state then the contractor could lose all their state contracts. That would probably put the contractor out of business, so they really didn't have a choice. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 11:06:24 AM EDT
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The contractor fired their own employees who leaked data. If a leaked photo causes problems for the state then the contractor could lose all their state contracts. That would probably put the contractor out of business, so they really didn't have a choice. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The contractor fired their own employees who leaked data. If a leaked photo causes problems for the state then the contractor could lose all their state contracts. That would probably put the contractor out of business, so they really didn't have a choice. What was so special about the leaked pictures? I missed them |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 11:52:14 AM EDT
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Nothing special, it the contractor's policy that no picture are taken and posted to social media, at any of their job sites. If you do, you are fired. That is getting to be a common policy now.
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Posted: 2/19/2017 12:04:21 PM EDT
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Its Sunday morning there now. I sure would like to see an overhead view from today, of the work done so far behind the E spillway. If any one sees and aircraft, news copter, or drone footage form today, please post some screen grabs, or links to recordings of it.
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Posted: 2/19/2017 12:08:46 PM EDT
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Nothing special, it the contractor's policy that no picture are taken and posted to social media, at any of their job sites. If you do, you are fired. That is getting to be a common policy now. I see, I'm good with that |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 12:09:52 PM EDT
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The contractor fired their own employees who leaked data. If a leaked photo causes problems for the state then the contractor could lose all their state contracts. That would probably put the contractor out of business, so they really didn't have a choice. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 12:16:48 PM EDT
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Nothing special, it the contractor's policy that no picture are taken and posted to social media, at any of their job sites. If you do, you are fired. That is getting to be a common policy now. Heaven forbid that people should see what the fuck is going on. Oh, the horror! |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 12:26:21 PM EDT
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Morning picture
Pictures from Yesterday are sparse. All I've got is screen grabs from the visitor center webcam and the 1 video from a guy 2+ miles away... and one pic of the barge which may actually have been from Friday. Album CA DWR didn't release any official photos yesterday. As always I'll keep a look out for new pictures of the work being done. Edit and as soon as I say that... CA DWR just realsed some pics... one moment while I pull them down and rehost. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 12:47:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/19/2017 12:54:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/19/2017 12:58:17 PM EDT
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this one from Yesterday seems like it was taken after they reduced flow significantly. Can see some of what's left of the main spillway.
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Posted: 2/19/2017 1:07:24 PM EDT
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tweet contains video I believe is from Yesterday of the base of the Main spillway after flow was reduced.
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Posted: 2/19/2017 1:27:02 PM EDT
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They are very close to the 850' elevation no one thought they'd reach, 852.30 @9 am today.
I'm amazed as much of the lower spillway is still standing as there is. 100kcfs firehose beating on it for days and it's still there. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 1:33:21 PM EDT
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They are very close to the 850' elevation no one thought they'd reach, 802.something last I looked. I'm amazed as much of the lower spillway is still standing as there is. 100kcfs firehose beating on it for days and it's still there. They'd get to 850, just not by last Thursday like they said, they didn't even come within 10 feet by then. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:03:28 PM EDT
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Man I am tired,put in 80 hours this week loading out rock to repair the twenty mile dam this was supposed to last 3-4 weeks now they're saying 3-4 months  Making bank and stacking paper !
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:05:47 PM EDT
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Its Sunday morning there now. I sure would like to see an overhead view from today, of the work done so far behind the E spillway. If any one sees and aircraft, news copter, or drone footage form today, please post some screen grabs, or links to recordings of it. Thanks  Oroville Spillway February 18, 2017 https://youtu.be/yxgtyOfwrj8 |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:16:51 PM EDT
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Everything is gonna be fine. "The dam is gonna burst" is 2017s "he's gonna drop out any day now." And EBOLA will kill us all... Stock up on beans and hotdogs... |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:19:56 PM EDT
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What was so special about the leaked pictures? I missed them Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The contractor fired their own employees who leaked data. If a leaked photo causes problems for the state then the contractor could lose all their state contracts. That would probably put the contractor out of business, so they really didn't have a choice. What was so special about the leaked pictures? I missed them |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:21:36 PM EDT
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I get that but getting repairs done seem more important to me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The contractor fired their own employees who leaked data. If a leaked photo causes problems for the state then the contractor could lose all their state contracts. That would probably put the contractor out of business, so they really didn't have a choice. Not to undermine the profession but construction workers are a dime a dozen. Good construction workers are worth their weight in gold, as they prevent problems not cause them. Most likely these guys were new guys hired by this company to speed things up...and they caused a problem. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:22:02 PM EDT
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here's a video that was just posted now that was taken Yesterday.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxgtyOfwrj8
https://youtu.be/yxgtyOfwrj8 All that work with the helicopters seems like a complete waste of money, they built a road all the way there anyway. Could have just rolled dump trucks. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:22:32 PM EDT
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here's a video that was just posted now that was taken Yesterday. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxgtyOfwrj8
https://youtu.be/yxgtyOfwrj8 |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:22:37 PM EDT
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Heaven forbid that people should see what the fuck is going on. Oh, the horror! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nothing special, it the contractor's policy that no picture are taken and posted to social media, at any of their job sites. If you do, you are fired. That is getting to be a common policy now. Heaven forbid that people should see what the fuck is going on. Oh, the horror! Go there and take a picture then. No one is stopping people from taking pictures. The construction company fired people who violated company policy, in a move that was 100% about protecting the construction company. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:26:40 PM EDT
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All that work with the helicopters seems like a complete waste of money, they built a road all the way there anyway. Could have just rolled dump trucks. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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here's a video that was just posted now that was taken Yesterday. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxgtyOfwrj8
https://youtu.be/yxgtyOfwrj8 All that work with the helicopters seems like a complete waste of money, they built a road all the way there anyway. Could have just rolled dump trucks. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:29:22 PM EDT
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Heaven forbid that people should see what the fuck is going on. Oh, the horror! Sort of like NASA and their space pictures.. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:31:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThis is NICE! |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:37:24 PM EDT
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.... Interesting. The damaged spillway is so bad that relatively lowe outflows are diverted from the abscess. Very little makes its way down its intended path They're at 55k there and when they're at 100K much more makes it across the gap or bounces back up... and comes down what's left off the base of the spillway. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:37:48 PM EDT
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Sure now it seems like a waste. Last Sunday they were expecting heavy rains on Wednesday that would have pushed the e-spillway back into action. They have worked 24x7 for 6 days, compared to having only the 48 hours they initially thought they would. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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here's a video that was just posted now that was taken Yesterday. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxgtyOfwrj8
https://youtu.be/yxgtyOfwrj8 All that work with the helicopters seems like a complete waste of money, they built a road all the way there anyway. Could have just rolled dump trucks. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:42:42 PM EDT
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this one from Yesterday seems like it was taken after they reduced flow significantly. Can see some of what's left of the main spillway. http://i.imgur.com/URQKnIY.jpg Good picture...looks as thought the hole in the main spillway is acting like a dam and directing water back towards the dam's toe.. Maybe they'd be better off blowing the rest of the main spillway right on outta there allowing the water to go on a straight line into the river in a spot where it won't erode back towards the dam...? |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:46:20 PM EDT
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got a facebook live view for the moment of the base of the main spillway.
https://www.facebook.com/OrovilleNewsOnly4firesAccidentsEventsCrimes/posts/722606157910453 |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 3:14:17 PM EDT
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got a facebook live view for the moment of the base of the main spillway. https://www.facebook.com/OrovilleNewsOnly4firesAccidentsEventsCrimes/posts/722606157910453 I wasn't thinking it was going to breach completely, but that looks pretty bad. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 3:25:49 PM EDT
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I wasn't thinking it was going to breach completely, but that looks pretty bad. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 3:26:13 PM EDT
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got a facebook live view for the moment of the base of the main spillway. https://www.facebook.com/OrovilleNewsOnly4firesAccidentsEventsCrimes/posts/722606157910453 Facebooker: "This is happening right now??" 
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Posted: 2/19/2017 3:28:24 PM EDT
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They got damn lucky that soaker storm went south. L.A. news said it was the worst storm in 20 years. The Mrs has friends in that general area. They about needed flippers and snorkels |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 3:46:28 PM EDT
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got a facebook live view for the moment of the base of the main spillway. https://www.facebook.com/OrovilleNewsOnly4firesAccidentsEventsCrimes/posts/722606157910453 
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Posted: 2/19/2017 3:52:55 PM EDT
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They are very close to the 850' elevation no one thought they'd reach, 852.30 @9 am today. I'm amazed as much of the lower spillway is still standing as there is. 100kcfs firehose beating on it for days and it's still there. No, they said they'd be at 850 by Thursday of last week. That was bullshit. That they dodged a bullet and the heavy rain that was forecast didn't come in doesn't make them honest or competent all the sudden. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 3:55:47 PM EDT
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.... Interesting. The damaged spillway is so bad that relatively lowe outflows are diverted from the abscess. Very little makes its way down its intended path Quote HistoryQuoted:
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here's a video that was just posted now that was taken Yesterday. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxgtyOfwrj8
https://youtu.be/yxgtyOfwrj8 Notice the big chunk of spillway that was lodged at the bottom? It's pretty amazing how much power is in that water. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 3:56:11 PM EDT
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No, they said they'd be at 850 by Thursday of last week. That was bullshit. That they dodged a bullet and the heavy rain that was forecast didn't come in doesn't make them honest or competent all the sudden. All that counts is being mostly CORRECT... 
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Posted: 2/19/2017 3:57:09 PM EDT
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Would it work if they prefabbed a steel structure to replace
the entire spillway in the same manner they build ships? Seems it could be assembled in weeks. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 3:58:39 PM EDT
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Well dam! I was thinking a bit homo 
Ed Just the tip, eh? |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 3:59:05 PM EDT
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ok. Lorduss and HDLS Looked back through the early pages of the thread and they stood out. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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See it's easy 
Just pick somebody and let me know Ed eta; try doing this a dozen time a year ok. Lorduss and HDLS Looked back through the early pages of the thread and they stood out. Edit- Dam! went back and saw a few posts I didn't read. See below post. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 4:06:56 PM EDT
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Sorry. Had to fix Mom dinner. HDLS. Log out and in. Another bet I'm happy to pay
Ed Dam! A guy can't even leave the damn dam thread to go inventory and organize his ammo fort without something going down. Wow, not sure what to say other then Dam!  And thanks of course. This place never ceases to amaze me.
In this case it's a positive amazement. 
Now to catch up with the latest 
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Posted: 2/19/2017 4:14:14 PM EDT
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Notice the big chunk of spillway that was lodged at the bottom? It's pretty amazing how much power is in that water. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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here's a video that was just posted now that was taken Yesterday. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxgtyOfwrj8
https://youtu.be/yxgtyOfwrj8 Notice the big chunk of spillway that was lodged at the bottom? It's pretty amazing how much power is in that water. Yeah that is going to be a pain in the butt to clean up/dredge. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 4:20:04 PM EDT
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Yeah that is going to be a pain in the butt to clean up/dredge. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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here's a video that was just posted now that was taken Yesterday. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxgtyOfwrj8
https://youtu.be/yxgtyOfwrj8 Notice the big chunk of spillway that was lodged at the bottom? It's pretty amazing how much power is in that water. Yeah that is going to be a pain in the butt to clean up/dredge. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 4:43:32 PM EDT
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Does nobody realize that half of the entire state of California is rural red maga country? Seems like some folls think everone here surfs daily and is a retard lib. Lots to learn. This is Jefferson State up here. Npr is JPR and it doesnt suck. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Commiefagians and their green fonts. That whole state needs to break off and sink in the Pacific Ocean. 
Does nobody realize that half of the entire state of California is rural red maga country? Seems like some folls think everone here surfs daily and is a retard lib. Lots to learn. This is Jefferson State up here. Npr is JPR and it doesnt suck. San Diego and Orange counties by precinct. 
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Posted: 2/19/2017 4:51:13 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/19/2017 4:52:19 PM EDT
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got a facebook live view for the moment of the base of the main spillway. https://www.facebook.com/OrovilleNewsOnly4firesAccidentsEventsCrimes/posts/722606157910453 Can't see the video. Is it on YouTube somewhere? Is something interesting happening? |
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