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Posted: 10/13/2015 7:49:25 AM EDT
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Obama has his faults and is a liberal dumb fuck but he is not a traitor. Now the people cheering the Russians who are bombing our guys on the other hand.......  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Maybe flying so low because the missiles obama and hillary gave ISIS (through benghazi) would have a hard time tracking low flying aircraft?  If ISIS stole the missiles, that does not mean we GAVE them to ISIS. If I give you a sandwich, and a hobo steals it from you, does that mean I gave the hobo a sandwich?Did I hit a nerve with the obama/hillary voter from DU? They did give weapons to elements of AQ/now ISIS in syria, with turkey facilitating. MANPADS, large caliber sniper rfiles, and ATGMs. ISIS didn't steal shit. You have a traitor for a president and for an ex-secstate. Obama has his faults and is a liberal dumb fuck but he is not a traitor. Now the people cheering the Russians who are bombing our guys on the other hand....... Would you just shut the fuck up. In other news, we should be helping the Rooskies kill ISIS and FSA. Or sit back and not interfere. Deposing Assad will not help the West, ever. It didn't work with Hussein, it didn't work with Ghaddafi, and fortunately al Sisi finally showed up and got Egypt's head screwed on straight, despite our best efforts. ETA: Wait, aren't you the dinosaur guy??? |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 8:22:42 AM EDT
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In Apocalypse it was Wagner "Ride (Flight) of the Valkyries". Here he's referencing Apocalypse but saying its Tchaikovsky because they're Russians.....[img]http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_noSmile.gif[/img] Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It was Paganini. In Apocalypse it was Wagner "Ride (Flight) of the Valkyries". Here he's referencing Apocalypse but saying its Tchaikovsky because they're Russians.....[img]http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_noSmile.gif[/img] The joke, you missed it by a wide margin. Go back down in the basement and watch The Hunt for Red October, then come back to this thread and chuckle. 
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Posted: 10/13/2015 10:03:47 AM EDT
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Holy shit, is this the dinosaur guy? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I DATE YOU TO SAY TO THE PROUD FAMILY OF ANY US GREEN BERET 18* MOS THAT OUR MISSION IS TO SUPPORT TERRORISTS. If you do so, I hope you have good dental insurance. Not that anyone would care. Idon'tbelieveyou.gif Lol, Mr Velociraptor is an 18 series now.  Holy shit, is this the dinosaur guy? Yes. Quoted: People have some funny ideas about Dinosaurs, that they only lived millions of years ago etc... Go to the jungles of africa and there are still some dinosaurs alive today.. One missionary in our church knows someone who saw a Triceratops in the Central African Republic. Creating mythology about dinosaurs is one way the devil tries to make evolution convincing. https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1777249_I_Just_Met_The_SEAL_That_Capped_Bin_Laden.html&page=1 |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 10:06:12 AM EDT
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Pavarotti was a tenor, Paganini was a composer; it was Paganini. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Pretty sure that was Pavarotti. Pavarotti was a tenor, Paganini was a composer; it was Paganini. I married a round American woman. 
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Posted: 10/13/2015 10:08:45 AM EDT
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Brzezinski is terminally full of shit, that article is bullshit, Brzezinski was trying to drum up a scandal to sell his new memoirs. The Soviet Union didn't invade Afghanistan because of threat of Islamic fundamentalism or US support for any mujahadeen that existed in '70, it was because the Soviet puppet PM in Afghanistan went off the the deep end and Moscow thought the only way to bring them back into the socialist fold was through military intervention. Read this: Hafizullah Amin: Soviet Afghan Relations And the Soviet Army was like "I don't think this is going to go as planned, based off our decade of experience training Afghans." Meanwhile, the Politburo said "Invasion COA approved...execute." |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 10:08:47 AM EDT
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Pretty sure that was Pavarotti. Pavarotti was a tenor, Paganini was a composer; it was Paganini. I married a round American woman. Bullshit. You don't live in Montana. I bet you don't even eat rabbits. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 10:11:15 AM EDT
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Given the choice between Al Qaeda, ISIS, and Assad, I'll take Assad. Those are our choices. Russia has made the correct choice. May they kill as many goat fuckers as possible. You do realize that Assad was directly supporting attacks on US troops for the better part of a decade, was destabilizing his neighbors, pursuing nuclear weapons and making his country a chalet for Sunni extremists, right? The only people pre 2011 who thought that Assad was a thoughtful leader to be engaged were Pelosi and Kerry. When there is no white space between your opinions and Nancy Pelosi, its time to check your assumptions. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 10:13:08 AM EDT
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Chances are either way a civil war would have happened and an ISIS like organization would have been a player. Not that really matters, because the Iraqi Sunnis were onside of the Iraqi government until we left and the Iranians filled the vacuum. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 10:26:19 AM EDT
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You do realize that Assad was directly supporting attacks on US troops for the better part of a decade, was destabilizing his neighbors, pursuing nuclear weapons and making his country a chalet for Sunni extremists, right? The only people pre 2011 who thought that Assad was a thoughtful leader to be engaged were Pelosi and Kerry. When there is no white space between your opinions and Nancy Pelosi, its time to check your assumptions. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Given the choice between Al Qaeda, ISIS, and Assad, I'll take Assad. Those are our choices. Russia has made the correct choice. May they kill as many goat fuckers as possible. You do realize that Assad was directly supporting attacks on US troops for the better part of a decade, was destabilizing his neighbors, pursuing nuclear weapons and making his country a chalet for Sunni extremists, right? The only people pre 2011 who thought that Assad was a thoughtful leader to be engaged were Pelosi and Kerry. When there is no white space between your opinions and Nancy Pelosi, its time to check your assumptions. So you support Al Qaeda and/or ISIS. Are you leaning towards one or the other, or would you be happy with both? I base my opinions on what reality says, not what my political opponents think. Taking the opposite stance of your political opponents just cuz is moronic. I see it all the time here. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 10:27:35 AM EDT
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If ISIS stole the missiles, that does not mean we GAVE them to ISIS. If I give you a sandwich, and a hobo steals it from you, does that mean I gave the hobo a sandwich?Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Maybe flying so low because the missiles obama and hillary gave ISIS (through benghazi) would have a hard time tracking low flying aircraft? If ISIS stole the missiles, that does not mean we GAVE them to ISIS. If I give you a sandwich, and a hobo steals it from you, does that mean I gave the hobo a sandwich?It does if you have information that says the hobo intends to attack him and take his sandwich but you give it anyway fully intending to allow the attack to happen and the sandwich to be taken. 
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Posted: 10/13/2015 10:29:04 AM EDT
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Now, I'm the first to jump down mdk89's throat about being crazier than a shit house rat, but at no point did I see him claim to be anything or anybody. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I DATE YOU TO SAY TO THE PROUD FAMILY OF ANY US GREEN BERET 18* MOS THAT OUR MISSION IS TO SUPPORT TERRORISTS. If you do so, I hope you have good dental insurance. Not that anyone would care. Idon'tbelieveyou.gif Lol, Mr Velociraptor is an 18 series now. Dang. I need to start taking notes. Now, I'm the first to jump down mdk89's throat about being crazier than a shit house rat, but at no point did I see him claim to be anything or anybody. Upon rereading that grammatically tortured sentence I think you are correct. Initial reading makes it sound like "us" Green Berets, not U.S, Green Berets. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 10:31:31 AM EDT
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Not that really matters, because the Iraqi Sunnis were onside of the Iraqi government until we left and the Iranians filled the vacuum. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Chances are either way a civil war would have happened and an ISIS like organization would have been a player. Not that really matters, because the Iraqi Sunnis were onside of the Iraqi government until we left and the Iranians filled the vacuum. Saddam played favorites with the Sunni tribes too. Obviously he took care of the al-Tikritis but the al Janabis, al Dulaimis, and al Obaidis were some of the major Sunni tribes he really favored. I don't even know if there were any tribes out in western al Anbar Saddam was particularly "nice" to. I remember being told that even the Ba'athists thought they were all backwards ass subsistence farmers when Saddam was in power. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 10:32:30 AM EDT
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So you support Al Qaeda and/or ISIS. Are you leaning towards one or the other, or would you be happy with both? I base my opinions on what reality says, not what my political opponents think. Taking the opposite stance of your political opponents just cuz is moronic. I see it all the time here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Given the choice between Al Qaeda, ISIS, and Assad, I'll take Assad. Those are our choices. Russia has made the correct choice. May they kill as many goat fuckers as possible. You do realize that Assad was directly supporting attacks on US troops for the better part of a decade, was destabilizing his neighbors, pursuing nuclear weapons and making his country a chalet for Sunni extremists, right? The only people pre 2011 who thought that Assad was a thoughtful leader to be engaged were Pelosi and Kerry. When there is no white space between your opinions and Nancy Pelosi, its time to check your assumptions. So you support Al Qaeda and/or ISIS. Are you leaning towards one or the other, or would you be happy with both? I base my opinions on what reality says, not what my political opponents think. Taking the opposite stance of your political opponents just cuz is moronic. I see it all the time here. HEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRPPPPPPPPPPPPP DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRPPPPPPPPPPPP |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 10:32:59 AM EDT
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So you support Al Qaeda and/or ISIS. Are you leaning towards one or the other, or would you be happy with both? I base my opinions on what reality says, not what my political opponents think. Taking the opposite stance of your political opponents just cuz is moronic. I see it all the time here. No...I think we should have kept the FSA and the Kurds in the field as much as we could, and massively supported the more effective commanders, giving them greater authority and higher leadership status, versus leaving the field of battle. But, the President made his decision. Of course the opposition elements were eventually going to Finlandize to IS/ANF because those groups had the money and resources. What I see in your post is a complete lack of nuance were all opposition = IS, when that is patently not true. I doubt that your take on the "reality" is fed by another than the competing information operations of all sides. However, to think that Assad has any chance of governing or even negotiating an end to the conflict is pure fantasy. The Russians and Chinese backing Assad just means that the war will grind on until there is only one Alawite and one Sunni left to knife fight. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 10:35:57 AM EDT
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Saddam played favorites with the Sunni tribes too. Obviously he took care of the al-Tikritis but the al Janabis, al Dulaimis, and al Obaidis were some of the major Sunni tribes he really favored. I don't even know if there were any tribes out in western al Anbar Saddam was particularly "nice" to. I remember being told that even the Ba'athists thought they were all backwards ass subsistence farmers when Saddam was in power. Well, Saddam knew after the GW that the Sunnis were the only ones we could trust, which is why he was taking all sorts of them and putting them down South and up in Mosul to keep the Shia and Kurds in line. The idea of secular Ba'athist Iraq died in 1991. It was a minority government using the fig leaf of Ba'athist inclusion and Olympic levels of internal repression to maintain its grip on power...kind of like Syria. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 10:37:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not that really matters, because the Iraqi Sunnis were onside of the Iraqi government until we left and the Iranians filled the vacuum. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Chances are either way a civil war would have happened and an ISIS like organization would have been a player. Not that really matters, because the Iraqi Sunnis were onside of the Iraqi government until we left and the Iranians filled the vacuum. Too bad we can't convince Jordan and Turkey to divvy up Syria like Poland in 1940. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 10:40:10 AM EDT
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Too bad we can't convince Jordan and Turkey to divvy up Syria like Poland in 1940. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Chances are either way a civil war would have happened and an ISIS like organization would have been a player. Not that really matters, because the Iraqi Sunnis were onside of the Iraqi government until we left and the Iranians filled the vacuum. Too bad we can't convince Jordan and Turkey to divvy up Syria like Poland in 1940. Who would want it at this point? I think that's the big thing stopping significant Turkish intervention. Basically the Jordos and Lebanese are just wanting it keep it on that side of the border, and the Turks just want to cock-block the Kurds. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 10:40:39 AM EDT
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IIRC if your not shooting at it with at LEAST a 50 cal..... your wasting your time. they are tough. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Arent the Hinds basically bullet proof? IIRC if your not shooting at it with at LEAST a 50 cal..... your wasting your time. they are tough. No Aircraft is bullet proof given adequate volume of small arms fire. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 10:45:04 AM EDT
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I learn so much about helicopters on arfcom Lulz |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 10:50:12 AM EDT
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Well, Saddam knew after the GW that the Sunnis were the only ones we could trust, which is why he was taking all sorts of them and putting them down South and up in Mosul to keep the Shia and Kurds in line. The idea of secular Ba'athist Iraq died in 1991. It was a minority government using the fig leaf of Ba'athist inclusion and Olympic levels of internal repression to maintain its grip on power...kind of like Syria. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Saddam played favorites with the Sunni tribes too. Obviously he took care of the al-Tikritis but the al Janabis, al Dulaimis, and al Obaidis were some of the major Sunni tribes he really favored. I don't even know if there were any tribes out in western al Anbar Saddam was particularly "nice" to. I remember being told that even the Ba'athists thought they were all backwards ass subsistence farmers when Saddam was in power. Well, Saddam knew after the GW that the Sunnis were the only ones we could trust, which is why he was taking all sorts of them and putting them down South and up in Mosul to keep the Shia and Kurds in line. The idea of secular Ba'athist Iraq died in 1991. It was a minority government using the fig leaf of Ba'athist inclusion and Olympic levels of internal repression to maintain its grip on power...kind of like Syria. It really is a minor miracle the sectarian fighting in Iraq was delayed as long as it was. Iraqi Shia had every reason to go full Frank Castle as soon as they got the chance and Sistani helped keep the peace until the first Golden Mosque bombing. I can't find an ebook edition, but The Reckoning: Iraq and the Legacy of Saddam Hussein does a good job of covering Saddam's actions post-GW to shore up his regime at the expense of non-Sunnis. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 10:53:07 AM EDT
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It really is a minor miracle the sectarian fighting in Iraq was delayed as long as it was. Iraqi Shia had every reason to go full Frank Castle as soon as they got the chance and Sistani helped keep the peace until the first Golden Mosque bombing. I can't find an ebook edition, but The Reckoning: Iraq and the Legacy of Saddam Hussein does a good job of covering Saddam's actions post-GW to shore up his regime at the expense of non-Sunnis. Sistani was critical to the process. Hell, even the Shia were on board once they saw there was some level of de Baathification, even if it wasn't total. All Maliki had to do was hang out and have bags of cash brought to him...but even that wasn't enough for Soleimani, who wanted just not the whole loaf, but the whole damn bakery, the truck and the granary. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 10:55:26 AM EDT
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I learn so much about helicopters on arfcom Lulz I learn a lot about the law here as well. Did anyone else picture Rambo on a horse galloping really effin fast in front of that helicopter? Or was it just me? It could explain why he's so low. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 10:57:27 AM EDT
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Good vids. I haven't read anything past the OP but they are flying so low because they are using unguided rockets and dumb bombs. They have laser guided and more advanced stuff but JDAMs cost a couple hundred bucks and Russian pilots are cheap. Anyway, glad they are kicking ass. They are fighting the worst of the worst in that area, mostly al-Nusra (which is the al-Qaeda branch) and a conglomerate of the CIA-backed takfiris. They're also finding time to hit some ISIS strongholds as well. Unlike our "coalition" Russia has actual Syrian and Hezbollah folks on the ground showing them where the bad guys are. Hence, they are getting shit done. There will be a large ground offensive soon and God-willing they can push the terrorists away from the major cities and mop up those pockets in the west...then move on to ISIS.
It's almost like the Crusades all over again. Orthodox Christian Russian pilots clearing the way for the Catholic and Orthodox Christian Hezbollah brigades to retake these ancient cities. That would be a good topic to preach about this Sunday. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 11:01:53 AM EDT
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From 8/10/2015 Why in the hell are they staying so low? [[/img] [ Google Nap-of-the-Earth Or Wiki says: Nap-of-the-earth (abbreviated NOE) is a type of very low-altitude flight course used by military aircraft to avoid enemy detection and attack in a high-threat environment. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 11:16:09 AM EDT
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ISIS isn't holding any positions north of Hama, that is FSA controlled territory. Russian propaganda published on Youtube from Russian Insider. You mean al-Queda. Russians are targeting al-Queda that Obama seems unwilling to do so. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 11:18:16 AM EDT
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Neall Ellis blew the fuck out of RUF insurgents flying a Hind super low in Sierra Leone.
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Posted: 10/13/2015 11:19:57 AM EDT
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Yes geniuses I said you should try telling family members of US servicemen some of this pro russian anti american shit about supporting terrorism, not that I was claiming to be something.
It's no wonder the people lapping up russian propaganda can't read either. You probably would show up to carpool wearing swimming trunks.
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Posted: 10/13/2015 11:23:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: yeah I guess... the one with the counter rotating main rotors.. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: why are they flying those old Hinds and not that new superduper attack chopper they like to pimp? Because they only have 3 of them. I'm assuming you mean the Hokum? yeah I guess... the one with the counter rotating main rotors.. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 11:24:16 AM EDT
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Bullshit. You don't live in Montana. I bet you don't even eat rabbits. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Pretty sure that was Pavarotti. Pavarotti was a tenor, Paganini was a composer; it was Paganini. I married a round American woman. Bullshit. You don't live in Montana. I bet you don't even eat rabbits. Watch it now - there's a one ping only rule in effect. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 11:26:38 AM EDT
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Small arms and unguided munitions like RPG's are a lot less of a threat than MANPADS. I would guess that they assessed such a threat there as they are launching flares on their turns and staying as low as possible.
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Posted: 10/13/2015 11:31:09 AM EDT
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Now, I'm the first to jump down mdk89's throat about being crazier than a shit house rat, but at no point did I see him claim to be anything or anybody. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I DATE YOU TO SAY TO THE PROUD FAMILY OF ANY US GREEN BERET 18* MOS THAT OUR MISSION IS TO SUPPORT TERRORISTS. If you do so, I hope you have good dental insurance. Not that anyone would care. Idon'tbelieveyou.gif Lol, Mr Velociraptor is an 18 series now. Dang. I need to start taking notes. Now, I'm the first to jump down mdk89's throat about being crazier than a shit house rat, but at no point did I see him claim to be anything or anybody. I think the problem is with the part in red. He meant US as in USA but due to his broken english dinoriding mad keyboard skillz, people are thinking he meant "us" as in we. First thing I'm going to do next time I get my hands on $24 is re up my membership here. I miss the ole *click* button. And the BOTD stuff too. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 11:33:01 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/13/2015 11:59:14 AM EDT
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Pretty sure that was Pavarotti. Pavarotti was a tenor, Paganini was a composer; it was Paganini. I married a round American woman. Bullshit. You don't live in Montana. I bet you don't even eat rabbits. She won't cook them for me! The rabbits, the cake, Montana.. It's all a lie! |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 12:00:28 PM EDT
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Remember in Doom when you're fighting the zombies and then an Imp shows up and lobs a fireball into the back of one of the zombies which alerts a Pinky Demon and then you just sit back and watch as they kill each other? Yeah, watching shit go down in Syria is kind of like that. You've got bad guys fighting bad guys fighting other bad guys. The only difference is that at the end of it when there is one bad guy left standing as victor there's no Doom guy standing there waiting for the smoke to clear and mop up. Mainly because the guy in charge of our country is a flamming weak ass bitch faggot. I'd keep going but don't need a COC warning. LOL, I used to try and do that all the time in Doom. Occurs in some other games too! |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 12:04:22 PM EDT
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Yes geniuses I said you should try telling family members of US servicemen some of this pro russian anti american shit about supporting terrorism, not that I was claiming to be something. It's no wonder the people lapping up russian propaganda can't read either. You probably would show up to carpool wearing swimming trunks. I'm going to a carpool this weekend. What are you saying? I don't need those things?
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Posted: 10/13/2015 12:07:17 PM EDT
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You are making the assumption that the that 66 year old Saddam at the time of his capture, who would now be 78 would have been able to either maintain power or have an orderly transition of power to either of his son. Chances are either way a civil war would have happened and an ISIS like organization would have been a player. Sure, things could have still devolved into civil war and who knows, he could have eloped with Hillary and shot sunshine out of his ass. The odds are though that either he would still be in power or one of his sons or at the least one of his generals. I would think it to be highly unlikely to have devolved into what it is today. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 12:07:20 PM EDT
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ISIS isn't holding any positions north of Hama, that is FSA controlled territory. Russian propaganda published on Youtube from Russian Insider. We get it, you think the Russian's military suck. . . you practically spam it in every thread in which it's remotely even relevant. You're as annoying and biased as the fuckers who only listen to RT and assume the Russians are conquering the planet in a divine holy war. Most good Americans are biased against Russia and against the useful idiots who praise Putin. The Russians aren't conquering anything. They are militarily incompetent, but are brilliant propagandists. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 12:12:44 PM EDT
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The comment about the seal was a joke, in case you have trouble understanding.
But as far as "dinosaurs"...... I said I have seen something during a mission trip to africa, back in 2007. It was in the trees and I wont say much else. Sub-saharan africa is VERY big. There could be T-rexes living in the jungle there and no one would possibly know, except for the natives, who DO have stories of such things. If you look at the evidence and written Word, and the entire length of recorded history, there were dinosaurs 4400 years ago, and africa is big enough they could still be living there. In fact, Dr Hovind has testified that lots of people come up after his services having seen things too, but were too shy to come forward. Ancient cultures even have made carvings of dinosaurs you can find with a simple google search. Let me put it this way. WHY is saying you saw a dinosaur such a remarkable thing or modern day heresy? What the fuck do you think alligators are? Is it because that evolution is on shaky ground already, even more so that they have found dinosaur bones with in tact soft tissue that can not be more than thousands of years old, and they will do anything with propaganda in to keep you from knowing in effect to lie preserving it so that no one questions it for fear of SOCIAL rejection....Why do you think college courses will kick people out of doctorate courses for lacking social or presentation skills??? BECAUSE THE ONLY WAY EVOLUTIONISTS CAN KEEP CONTROL OVER THE FIELDS OF SCIENCE................... Is to keep only people who have the fear of social isolation over their head. Period. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 12:18:10 PM EDT
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Good vids. I haven't read anything past the OP but they are flying so low because they are using unguided rockets and dumb bombs. They have laser guided and more advanced stuff but JDAMs cost a couple hundred bucks and Russian pilots are cheap. Anyway, glad they are kicking ass. They are fighting the worst of the worst in that area, mostly al-Nusra (which is the al-Qaeda branch) and a conglomerate of the CIA-backed takfiris. They're also finding time to hit some ISIS strongholds as well. Unlike our "coalition" Russia has actual Syrian and Hezbollah folks on the ground showing them where the bad guys are. Hence, they are getting shit done. There will be a large ground offensive soon and God-willing they can push the terrorists away from the major cities and mop up those pockets in the west...then move on to ISIS. It's almost like the Crusades all over again. Orthodox Christian Russian pilots clearing the way for the Catholic and Orthodox Christian Hezbollah brigades to retake these ancient cities. That would be a good topic to preach about this Sunday. Yep, Russia and Hezbollah just doing the Lord's work. Just like when they launch rockets at civilians in Israel or shoot down civilian airliners in Ukraine. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 12:19:30 PM EDT
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Hey everybody good job fucking up a thread that was supposed to be cool videos but now is a bunch of know it alls fucking arguing
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Posted: 10/13/2015 12:22:55 PM EDT
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Yep, Russia and Hezbollah just doing the Lord's work. Just like when they launch rockets at civilians in Israel or shoot down civilian airliners in Ukraine. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good vids. I haven't read anything past the OP but they are flying so low because they are using unguided rockets and dumb bombs. They have laser guided and more advanced stuff but JDAMs cost a couple hundred bucks and Russian pilots are cheap. Anyway, glad they are kicking ass. They are fighting the worst of the worst in that area, mostly al-Nusra (which is the al-Qaeda branch) and a conglomerate of the CIA-backed takfiris. They're also finding time to hit some ISIS strongholds as well. Unlike our "coalition" Russia has actual Syrian and Hezbollah folks on the ground showing them where the bad guys are. Hence, they are getting shit done. There will be a large ground offensive soon and God-willing they can push the terrorists away from the major cities and mop up those pockets in the west...then move on to ISIS. It's almost like the Crusades all over again. Orthodox Christian Russian pilots clearing the way for the Catholic and Orthodox Christian Hezbollah brigades to retake these ancient cities. That would be a good topic to preach about this Sunday. Yep, Russia and Hezbollah just doing the Lord's work. Just like when they launch rockets at civilians in Israel or shoot down civilian airliners in Ukraine. Just like the Crusades. It really wasn't a bunch of King Aurthurs running around saying "Mah lady" while doing good deeds. Things happen when cultures clash. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 12:26:26 PM EDT
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You mean al-Queda. Russians are targeting al-Queda that Obama seems unwilling to do so. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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ISIS isn't holding any positions north of Hama, that is FSA controlled territory. Russian propaganda published on Youtube from Russian Insider. You mean al-Queda. Russians are targeting al-Queda that Obama seems unwilling to do so. Calling al-Queda and Co. 'FSA' is an easier sell, though. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 12:37:48 PM EDT
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Calling al-Queda and Co. 'FSA' is an easier sell, though. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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ISIS isn't holding any positions north of Hama, that is FSA controlled territory. Russian propaganda published on Youtube from Russian Insider. You mean al-Queda. Russians are targeting al-Queda that Obama seems unwilling to do so. Calling al-Queda and Co. 'FSA' is an easier sell, though. Did Sputnik put out new talking points? Al Nusra Front=The Syrian branch of Al Qaeda, wants global Salafist caliphate ISIS=Iraqi focused Salafist group, with caliphate in eastern Syria, w. and n. Iraq FSA=Loose label given to hundreds of other groups that don't fit the criteria of being included in the two above, including many groups who do not have religious goals, who don't want a Salafist Caliphate. Some of latter, the US is supporting. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 12:39:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/13/2015 1:10:57 PM EDT
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Just like the Crusades. It really wasn't a bunch of King Aurthurs running around saying "Mah lady" while doing good deeds. Things happen when cultures clash. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good vids. I haven't read anything past the OP but they are flying so low because they are using unguided rockets and dumb bombs. They have laser guided and more advanced stuff but JDAMs cost a couple hundred bucks and Russian pilots are cheap. Anyway, glad they are kicking ass. They are fighting the worst of the worst in that area, mostly al-Nusra (which is the al-Qaeda branch) and a conglomerate of the CIA-backed takfiris. They're also finding time to hit some ISIS strongholds as well. Unlike our "coalition" Russia has actual Syrian and Hezbollah folks on the ground showing them where the bad guys are. Hence, they are getting shit done. There will be a large ground offensive soon and God-willing they can push the terrorists away from the major cities and mop up those pockets in the west...then move on to ISIS. It's almost like the Crusades all over again. Orthodox Christian Russian pilots clearing the way for the Catholic and Orthodox Christian Hezbollah brigades to retake these ancient cities. That would be a good topic to preach about this Sunday. Yep, Russia and Hezbollah just doing the Lord's work. Just like when they launch rockets at civilians in Israel or shoot down civilian airliners in Ukraine. Just like the Crusades. It really wasn't a bunch of King Aurthurs running around saying "Mah lady" while doing good deeds. Things happen when cultures clash. There were some bad dudes on the Christian side of the crusades that did some pretty bad stuff. But at least they knew who the enemy was, and had the balls to fight them. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 1:15:09 PM EDT
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Is this the thread where steinhub tells me that the moderate vetted Muslims don't rape little boys and slaughter chirstians? Please tell me it is.
 I don't give a single fuk about them. Last I knew Syria is a country with it's rightful leader Asad. How long has his family ruled Syria? Fuk isis and the fsa also the so called moderate goat herders. Fuk them all.
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Posted: 10/13/2015 1:20:42 PM EDT
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There were some bad dudes on the Christian side of the crusades that did some pretty bad stuff. But at least they knew who the enemy was, and had the balls to fight them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good vids. I haven't read anything past the OP but they are flying so low because they are using unguided rockets and dumb bombs. They have laser guided and more advanced stuff but JDAMs cost a couple hundred bucks and Russian pilots are cheap. Anyway, glad they are kicking ass. They are fighting the worst of the worst in that area, mostly al-Nusra (which is the al-Qaeda branch) and a conglomerate of the CIA-backed takfiris. They're also finding time to hit some ISIS strongholds as well. Unlike our "coalition" Russia has actual Syrian and Hezbollah folks on the ground showing them where the bad guys are. Hence, they are getting shit done. There will be a large ground offensive soon and God-willing they can push the terrorists away from the major cities and mop up those pockets in the west...then move on to ISIS. It's almost like the Crusades all over again. Orthodox Christian Russian pilots clearing the way for the Catholic and Orthodox Christian Hezbollah brigades to retake these ancient cities. That would be a good topic to preach about this Sunday. Yep, Russia and Hezbollah just doing the Lord's work. Just like when they launch rockets at civilians in Israel or shoot down civilian airliners in Ukraine. Just like the Crusades. It really wasn't a bunch of King Aurthurs running around saying "Mah lady" while doing good deeds. Things happen when cultures clash. There were some bad dudes on the Christian side of the crusades that did some pretty bad stuff. But at least they knew who the enemy was, and had the balls to fight them. That's why Crusaders butchered the Christians of Jerusalem when they sacked the city, right? Or when they attacked Constantinople. When the various Christian kingdoms that sprung up in the Holy Land made war on each other. Was all this because they knew who their enemy was? Who was their enemy? Islam? Nope. The Crusades were only started because the Byzantine Empire was being raided by the Turks and the emperor converted to Roman Catholicism in order to get Urban II to assist with in a relief force. But did the Crusaders ever fight the Turks? Nope. They ended up completely ignoring them and made an end run direct for the Holy Land because it was weakly held and prime real estate for conquering, land the Crusaders took and turned into feudal fiefdoms for themselves. Then they ended up fighting a totally different Muslim kingdom that had no previous beef with any Christians until the Crusaders started conquering shit. Crusaders are actually similar to modern ISIS. They don't understand their enemy but they vilify them. They held no mercy for anyone. They all believed they were doing God's will, even when slaughtering innocents of their own religion. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 1:22:45 PM EDT
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Did Sputnik put out new talking points? Al Nusra Front=The Syrian branch of Al Qaeda, wants global Salafist caliphate ISIS=Iraqi focused Salafist group, with caliphate in eastern Syria, w. and n. Iraq FSA=Loose label given to hundreds of other groups that don't fit the criteria of being included in the two above, including many groups who do not have religious goals, who don't want a Salafist Caliphate. Some of latter, the US is supporting. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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ISIS isn't holding any positions north of Hama, that is FSA controlled territory. Russian propaganda published on Youtube from Russian Insider. You mean al-Queda. Russians are targeting al-Queda that Obama seems unwilling to do so. Calling al-Queda and Co. 'FSA' is an easier sell, though. Did Sputnik put out new talking points? Al Nusra Front=The Syrian branch of Al Qaeda, wants global Salafist caliphate ISIS=Iraqi focused Salafist group, with caliphate in eastern Syria, w. and n. Iraq FSA=Loose label given to hundreds of other groups that don't fit the criteria of being included in the two above, including many groups who do not have religious goals, who don't want a Salafist Caliphate. Some of latter, the US is supporting. More properly, ISIS is Wahhabi, a stricter form of Salafism promoted by the Saudis. How many terrorist threats to the US DON'T point back to Saudi Arabia at some point? It takes a special kind of either faith, naivete, or both, to believe that the US is going to navigate the FSA waters and find the ones who aren't shitheels. The idiots crying for intervention and more Civ Points for America certainly couldn't figure it out in the former nation of Libya. Though they DID figure out how to train Islamists who then went to Syria via Turkey, and joined ISIS. So we've got that going for us. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 1:30:33 PM EDT
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Is this the thread where steinhuab tells me that the moderate vetted Muslims don't rape little boys and slaughter chirstians? Please tell me it is. I don't give a single fuk about them. Last I knew Syria is a country with it's rightful leader Asad. How long has his family ruled Syria? Fuk isis and the fsa also the so called moderate goat herders. Fuk them all.We should do something about that religion that keeps molesting kids Those damn religion fanatics just wont stop touching kids Those pedofile enablers are terrible humans |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 1:37:18 PM EDT
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Saying that peaceful transition would have occurred sans-Russia is pure fantasy. That place is fu-uhhhcked. Civil war going on 5 years and just as shitty as ever. And Russia had their base and assets their before the war, so of they manage to retain it, not much has changed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't comment much, as you can see. But I have to say, it gets old reading comments where people say that there is such a thing as a "moderate Sunni Muslim militant". These people would eat our livers and burn us alive the first chance they got. Their religion teaches them to deceive us so that they can gain the upper hand, and you're kidding yourself if you believe these people could ever be trusted as our "allies" (or, perhaps you're the one who has bought into the propaganda. These days, CNN and the like are every bit as deceptive as Soviet Pravda). How have we not learned this already? I for one am very glad to see the old Hinds getting some action, hopefully they are racking up the kills. If anything, we should actually be cooperating with the Russians here. Frankly, in the long-term these jihadi types are a much, much larger threat to the US (and to Russia) than anyone else on the planet. Didn't we learn what they're capable of yet? Crazy Ivan might be crazy, especially when hes drunk, but he sure as hell isn't stupid enough to launch a nuclear weapon against us. But what about jihadis? If they ever get their hands on one, we are in for a world of hurt. So ask yourself, who is our true enemy here? To them, every aspect of Western civilization is simply something that must be destroyed. These people simply don't belong in the 21st century. Our attempt at creating yet another power vacuum in the Middle East is just too ludicrous for words. Our current administration continues to act like wrongheaded, petulant children (but what else is new?). As "someone" said in another thread, we are arming the devil just to stick it to the Russians. Do we really want to do that? We're playing chess without giving the slightest thought as to what our opponents next move will be. (Edited just for a typing mistake) So you are glad to see America's only existential enemy invade a country, and kill fighters that WE have trained, spent millions on, and equipped? You are glad to see Russians bomb areas where our men and women in uniform are working as advisors to ensure a peaceful transition to a moderate democracy? Got it. Saying that peaceful transition would have occurred sans-Russia is pure fantasy. That place is fu-uhhhcked. Civil war going on 5 years and just as shitty as ever. And Russia had their base and assets their before the war, so of they manage to retain it, not much has changed. There it is. Assad is a piece of shit, I don't think anyone thinks otherwise. But him leaving isn't going to suddenly result in puppies and rainbows in Syria. It would be another Libya, at a minimum. |
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