If they're being realistic, this isn't intended to fight Abrams MBT's.  Top attack missiles would do a much better job with fewer engineering challenges.  152mm does offers a lot more HE boom for blowing the crap out of Chechan apartment complexes.

They may use the Mexican/Illegal Alien model and do a slow invasion.  But either way they have the population to burn so to speak.

With the Chinese economic turndown, massive over-population, and no place for the people to live, they need to push out somewhere.

The thing is, China doesn't want a direct confrontation with Russia, who they are afraid would resort to nukes rather quickly.

Better to let Chinese illegal immigration do its thing as they already are, but will it be fast enough to siphon the birth rate, while China faces an aging citizenry problem as well?

What in the world do we have that even resembles the S-500 or A-135?


I agree. Their military is fine right now to bully their neighbors and they have the trump card of thousands of nukes to keep us at bay. I have visited Russia, and not just the touristy section of StPburg. The Russians still excel at propaganda and no matter how poor and miserable the people are they all somehow still believe that it's all the CIA's fault. And don't underestimate the average Russian's ability to absorb pain and misery, they aren't like us or western Europe. Over the past 1000 years they've developed a need for a strong leader to tell them what to do and make them feel "Russia's strong!", Putin does that wonderfully when he pushes around a former satellite. Even with crippling sanctions Putin's approval rating is through the roof.

The years of Communism and past invasions by pretty much every country on earth has made the average Russian very paranoid. Thus the reason they get so bent out of shape when their neighbors join NATO or overthrow their Russian-friendly president. One of the smartest men I know was born in Russia, lived here for past 15 years, and still believes with all his heart that the US is just waiting for the opportunity to invade Russia any day now. Every time Poland hosts US troops, or Ukraine makes overtures to the West it just reinforces that view. I don't know the answer to dealing with Russia but we will never directly go to war with them, I wish the 'patriots' in both countries would get that through their heads.

I won't even ask what you were searching for when you found that.

Anyone else notice that this version of TheRusskieBear is a little more engaging than the last one, replies to jokes, comments a little more than the older hit and run style.  

Yet another guy using the same account it appears

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The Cossacks are learning.

Our god damn FEMA Tanks will put holes in that shit like no tomorrow.

I also have visited Russia many times and have had dealings with everyday Russians. You are correct for the most part, but, there is a minority of Russians who do not buy into all the propaganda they are spoon fed. There is an internal struggle between the statists(Putin) and what they call "liberals', they are not liberals like we have. They call anyone who does not worship Putin and think his words are gospel "liberals", and there more than you would think. They just cannot openly say so lest they get openly discriminated against, or worse.

Russian people by nature are secretive and closed off to everyone except their closest friends. This is from 80 years of the KGB in various forms disappearing their asses for the slightest word against the central government.

But, Russians as a whole love a strong leader, not necessarily a good leader. There are MANY young Russians today who think that Stalin is a hero. They value stability even if that stability comes at the cost of freedom. But, you can't really blame them, except for a short period in the 1990's Russians have never had freedom. They have always had either Czars, the USSR, or their current Czar Putin.

Yeah, very informative.

Yikes!  Considering the Chinese multi-million surplus of bachelors, you may just be correct.

Hey, so am I!  We are probably only two of a handful in SC lol.

Only a Russian could figure out how to flip a 50 ton tank on a flat surface.

lol, looks like shit.

How much is our troll getting paid per post?

Ah, so it's more for dealing with interior issues than exterior threats.

In rubles or potatoes?

I thought it was suppose to look more like this:




OP is showing us some ancient 1990's prototype.

It used to be 15 rubles per 300 word post, before the ruble went into the toilet. I tried to sign myself up but my Russian is pretty rough and they haven't got back to me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olgino


Yeah, here is the Armata, from little you can see of it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYhyzJ7jdGE

Is of glorious Russian disinformation, comrade.

Damned fixed blade front sight on that gun, just like a Beretta 92.  That will make swapping to  night sights a real PITA.



 

New Russian Tank.....Yawn.......

My thoughts as well

First, thank you for your 50 cents.
As for your first statement, I think you are wrong. Of course i may be wrong, but you are probably had experience with iraqi T-72A modifications (or with other export models of "Ural" tank) and trying to generalize it to a whole Soviet/Russian tank production.



152 mm tank gun was designed to get guaranteed superiority in firepower oven any Western or Chinese tank with reserve for the future. There is no modern tank that can survive after direct hit with 152 mm KE or even HE round, isn't? But as a result of this devastating caliber and its advantages, there is major shortcomings such as limited amount of ammunition (23 rounds for the T-95). The another disadvantage is production cost and complexity for the idustry. T-95's concept appears to be more anti-tank destroyer than general-purpose main battle tank. The concept of the T-95 contradicted with ground forces doctine. That's why Object 195 (aka t-95) was rejected (i think that).
As for current generation of Russian tanks and their AT-abilities, the main problem was (and still is) is a limited length of penetrator due to overall limitations(size) in the autoloaders. "AZ" type autoloader (T-72s/T-90s) or "MZ" type loader (T-64/T-80s) - both  limits an overall length of projectile. That's why Russian tanks has problems with penetration of frontal armor of the most modern Western tanks (such as M1A2 SEP or Leo2 A5/6).



Thats why the new 125 mm tank gun designated as "2A82" was designed decade ago for the next generation MBT that based on the new heavy platform "Armata". It has chromium-plated barrel and significantly increased muzzle energy(with advantage up ~20% over Rheinmetall L55) but, in same time, it's shorter(~600mm) than Rheinmetall's gun.

2A46M (older tank gun, initial variant for T-72B, late T-80 and early T-90) and 2A82 schematic comparison:




"Naked" Armata MBT with 125mm 2A82 tank gun:






First, two-men crew for the T-95 (and Armata) is just rumors. We shouldn't be surprised if "Armata" MBT eventually will have 3-member crew(TC, TD and TG) completely separated and protected from stowage (and fuel) with armored partitions.

Second, the top priorities for the Soviet tank designs was:
- strategic mobility (due to relatively low weight and relatively small overall size of tank)
- adequate protection level from frontal projection
- the anti-tank purposes had secondary role (that doesn't mean they were ignored or marked as an unimportant)  

Third, Soviet/Russian tanks has multilayer composite armor for decades. You know, the level of protection of Iraqi T-72A is not on the same level as on T-72B(non-export model), T-80UD or T-90A. Strength of a Russian passive armor was proven repeatedly during test firings. T-90 tank shouldn't have been tank with a such export record and stock of completed orders if it had been bad passive armor.
"Armata" uses brand new armor configuration (that was appreciably improved even when it's compared with T-90MS armor).

As for the protection which is based on design concept, If you are supporter of Western tank conception, you may admit, it has its own flaws. More crew members (even one manual loader) constrain to design a combat compartments of larger size = more armor that needed for armoring(protecting) crew = more weight = less remaining reserve of weight and  less mobility in strategic terms. You may admit that Western tanks almost reached thresholds for their modernization potential in terms of further armor build-up with respect to acceptable growth of vehicle weight. Look at their giant turrets after all of these ERA-upgrades...

The Armata MBT has weight and size that is in intermediate range between old Soviet concept and Western behemoth-type tanks. Its unmanned  turret is comparatively tiny and allows to reduce vehicle capacity (capacity of compartments needed to be protected with heavy armor) that saving weight and allows to use this reserve with a much more rational way - for adding more armor (to front/side hull projections and turret) and giving maximum protection for a tank crew,.



Wrong assumption. Russian made Tugsen and DU projectiles for 125mm APFSDS exist during decades. 3VBM59 Svinets-1 (Tugsnen) and 3VBM60  (Uranium). Here is pic: http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/andrei_bt/18425682/69721/69721_original.jpg

But as i said before, current Russian tank munitions(active armament)  has problems with penetration of the most new adversaries tanks (their frontal armor).
But there is another story with Armata. New autoloader and munition types were developed for the Armata program. Now munition doesn't have limitations of previous generation APFSDS. With new, drastically improved 125mm 2?82 tank gun and late generation APFSDS, Armata should be at least on par with in terms of AT-capabilities with its Western adversaries.

With all respect, but this is nothing more than unsubstantiated statement

Your shift start for the day again?

yup

Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Whooo! Damn you be telling the jokes!

They about got their asses kicked by Georgia and those were irregulars and reserves.

Against a REAL modern infantry/ground force the Russians would be threatening or resorting to nuclear weapons inside a week.

Unless it's Matthias Rust and a Cessna

Very turret-ey. Much Ivan. Wow.

Machismo over brains and money

I don't even know why they pay you to do this.  You're not convincing anyone.

Oh well, at least it is mildly entertaining.

Jesus, did they run around drinking from every fucking puddle possible, then eating raw every random vulture they came across?

It seems the Russians don't believe in vaccinations either.

Sometimes I wonder if we had killed Hitler and come to an agreement, if we could have divided everything in Europe all the way to the Urals between us, the British, and the Germans.

The enlisted receive regular anal vaccinations of syphillis, gonorrhea, hepatitis, and AIDS from the NCOs.

Next time.

We will enslave the populace too as that is all they are good for.

Love to see the combat trains for this turd. Ammo carriers maintainence and recovery and fuel lol holy crap.

Never knew Russia was a nation of miniature electronic engineer genius.

Looks like nothing more than a magnet for Sabot darts and ATGM.

OP, why are you trying to argue that Russia makes anything of quality?

You guys can't even make vodka right, and you're credited with inventing the thing. The FRENCH make better vodka than you do.

When you can make quality vodka (which is what? water, potatoes and bear piss?) then you can come here and sell us on the idea that your country can make quality tanks.

You're wrong about that, but vodka making doesn't have much to do with main battle tank development.  

The inherent Russian problem is that it does though.

So your boyfriend prefers you mix his Cosmos with Grey Goose instead of a proper vodka like Russian Standard? Or hell, Titos?

The same Russians who are getting beaten back by these guys?

Nyet, comrade. According to beloved comrade russkiebear, brave people's forces are not in smelly Ukraine!

It is all CIA Western Imperialist conspiracy. Comrade Putin assures us of this!

I must kill western pigdog who told me these lies.

Da, but first we must of killings smelly Caucasians.

Thanks for the laughs.  You've been my favorite RU propagandist since Primorski put on the cone of shame and went home.