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Posted: 3/3/2015 12:07:02 PM EDT
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........... Yes, when a person says exactly what they are thinking while knowing it will seem brutal and or ruffle some feathers that is brutal honesty. Doesn't mean that I totally agree with him on it. Well yes, I suppose even Code Pink type lunatics can be brutally honest if we use your definition to describe their statements. |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 12:13:57 PM EDT
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Because when you are a representative sometimes you may have to vote differently than you accually believe if enough of your constituents let you know they feel different. Like Hiedi Hietcamp the Dem from my state voting against all 7 of the fed gun control bills last time because more gun rights people got ahold of her than lefties. Then the lefties called her a hypocrite and said they were displeased even though most of them had never let her know how they felt about the issue. Yes his comment about Kyle was disrespectful but he was not in office anymore and it's his right to say what he thinks. The guy will probably piss people off until the day he dies, some people just can't handle brutal honesty. His only goals have been to expand liberty and expose the reasons he thinks are putting our liberty at risk. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't think you can call a politician 'honest' when he slams his colleagues for putting pork into bills while stuffing as much of his own as he can. Pretty sure that's called hypocrisy. I don't know about the events you speak of but he is still a politician. It's pretty hard to be a politician representing other people without being hypocritical sometimes. And don't worry I don't think he is perfect. Then why call him honest or respectful? This is the same man who said the idiotic "live by the sword, die by the sword" after the tragic death of Chris Kyle, you may recall. That's not respectful at all.  Because when you are a representative sometimes you may have to vote differently than you accually believe if enough of your constituents let you know they feel different. Like Hiedi Hietcamp the Dem from my state voting against all 7 of the fed gun control bills last time because more gun rights people got ahold of her than lefties. Then the lefties called her a hypocrite and said they were displeased even though most of them had never let her know how they felt about the issue. Yes his comment about Kyle was disrespectful but he was not in office anymore and it's his right to say what he thinks. The guy will probably piss people off until the day he dies, some people just can't handle brutal honesty. His only goals have been to expand liberty and expose the reasons he thinks are putting our liberty at risk. And by sometimes, you mean every time? Because he put pork into bills every single time, while railing against pork then entire time. His comments about Kyle were not brutally honest. They were idiotic. Edit: For something to be brutally honest, it also has to be correct... |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 12:18:28 PM EDT
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Yes his comment about Kyle was disrespectful but he was not in office anymore and it's his right to say what he thinks. The guy will probably piss people off until the day he dies, some people just can't handle brutal honesty. His comments about Chris Kyle were 'brutally honest'? Did Rand make those comments, or his dad Ron? |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 12:18:59 PM EDT
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Without looking up the definition I thought honesty meant what a person believes to be the truth. Not what they think others believe is the truth.
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Posted: 3/3/2015 12:20:14 PM EDT
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Did Rand make those comments, or his dad Ron? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes his comment about Kyle was disrespectful but he was not in office anymore and it's his right to say what he thinks. The guy will probably piss people off until the day he dies, some people just can't handle brutal honesty. His comments about Chris Kyle were 'brutally honest'? Did Rand make those comments, or his dad Ron? No, just retired Ron. Rand has different views on wars of aggression. |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 12:20:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can either of you find ONE post supporting either of those guys on this site? Just one? Oh, and Christie while you are at it. *This post is kryptonite and will be ignored. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I love how when Rand Paul says dumb shit shit about vaccines, he's "marginalized himself already," but when Jeb Bush says dumb shit about illegals, gun control, etc. that doesn't count. It only counts when RP says it. When Jeb or any of the Santorum candidates say stupid shit it is ignored by the RINO lovers. LOL It's not stupid to them. They agree with those positions and statements. Can either of you find ONE post supporting either of those guys on this site? Just one? Oh, and Christie while you are at it. *This post is kryptonite and will be ignored. We've played this game before. Your selective memory issues won't be cured by links. This one goes to you. No one on arfcom has ever supported or defended anything Jeb Bush, Chris Christie, or Rick Santorum have said or done. The very idea that someone would is unthinkable. |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 12:26:29 PM EDT
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We've played this game before. Your selective memory issues won't be cured by links. This one goes to you. No one on arfcom has ever supported or defended anything Jeb Bush, Chris Christie, or Rick Santorum have said or done. The very idea that someone would is unthinkable. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I love how when Rand Paul says dumb shit shit about vaccines, he's "marginalized himself already," but when Jeb Bush says dumb shit about illegals, gun control, etc. that doesn't count. It only counts when RP says it. When Jeb or any of the Santorum candidates say stupid shit it is ignored by the RINO lovers. LOL It's not stupid to them. They agree with those positions and statements. Can either of you find ONE post supporting either of those guys on this site? Just one? Oh, and Christie while you are at it. *This post is kryptonite and will be ignored. We've played this game before. Your selective memory issues won't be cured by links. This one goes to you. No one on arfcom has ever supported or defended anything Jeb Bush, Chris Christie, or Rick Santorum have said or done. The very idea that someone would is unthinkable. The only "game" is you and your kind endlessly yammering about the site's membership supporting the RINO crew when there is ZERO of that here. We don't "hate freedom" and we our lack of support for your nutcase candidates doesn't mean anything other than you support nut cases. And we are able to see through it. Besides, aren't you the guy who has posted repeatedly you don't even vote? Or was that Qweevox? |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 12:27:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can either of you find ONE post supporting either of those guys on this site? Just one? Oh, and Christie while you are at it. *This post is kryptonite and will be ignored. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I love how when Rand Paul says dumb shit shit about vaccines, he's "marginalized himself already," but when Jeb Bush says dumb shit about illegals, gun control, etc. that doesn't count. It only counts when RP says it. When Jeb or any of the Santorum candidates say stupid shit it is ignored by the RINO lovers. LOL It's not stupid to them. They agree with those positions and statements. Can either of you find ONE post supporting either of those guys on this site? Just one? Oh, and Christie while you are at it. *This post is kryptonite and will be ignored. Do you honestly not remember the people who supported Rick Santorum here? http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1269870 |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 12:29:28 PM EDT
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..................... And by sometimes, you mean every time? Because he put pork into bills every single time, while railing against pork the entire time. His comments about Kyle were not brutally honest. They were idiotic. Edit: For something to be brutally honest, it also has to be correct... Now this IS BRUTALLY HONEST in the way I think of the phrase. |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 12:30:35 PM EDT
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Do you honestly not remember the people who supported Rick Santorum here? http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1269870 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I love how when Rand Paul says dumb shit shit about vaccines, he's "marginalized himself already," but when Jeb Bush says dumb shit about illegals, gun control, etc. that doesn't count. It only counts when RP says it. When Jeb or any of the Santorum candidates say stupid shit it is ignored by the RINO lovers. LOL It's not stupid to them. They agree with those positions and statements. Can either of you find ONE post supporting either of those guys on this site? Just one? Oh, and Christie while you are at it. *This post is kryptonite and will be ignored. Do you honestly not remember the people who supported Rick Santorum here? http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1269870 Please try to focus. This discussion is about THIS ELECTION. Santorum went off the deep end years ago. Now he's a joke--and certainly not a serious candidate. The main thrust of my post was about Christie and Bush (note the use of the word "RINO" which doesn't fit Santorum at all). |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 12:33:09 PM EDT
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.................... Please try to focus. This discussion is about THIS ELECTION. Santorum went off the deep end years ago. Now he's a joke--and certainly not a serious candidate. The main thrust of my post was about Christie and Bush (note the use of the word "RINO" which doesn't fit Santorum at all). Oh come on now.............stop with that shit.............don't you remember the Arfcommers who supported William Jennings Bryan when he ran against McKinley!!?? 
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Posted: 3/3/2015 12:33:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The only "game" is you and your kind endlessly yammering about the site's membership supporting the RINO crew when there is ZERO of that here. We don't "hate freedom" and we our lack of support for your nutcase candidates doesn't mean anything other than you support nut cases. And we are able to see through it. Besides, aren't you the guy who has posted repeatedly you don't even vote? Or was that Qweevox? It's true I haven't voted in some time, outside of voting no on the latest town budget (which passed, of course). I could probably be convinced to pull the lever for the right candidate, not that I think it will matter one way or the other to the outcome of the election or the future of the nation. |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 12:33:31 PM EDT
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Without looking up the definition I thought honesty meant what a person believes to be the truth. Not what they think others believe is the truth. "It all depends on what the meaning of what the word is is." |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 12:34:42 PM EDT
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Please try to focus. This discussion is about THIS ELECTION. Santorum went off the deep end years ago. Now he's a joke--and certainly not a serious candidate. The main thrust of my post was about Christie and Bush (note the use of the word "RINO" which doesn't fit Santorum at all). Quote HistoryQuoted:
Please try to focus. This discussion is about THIS ELECTION. Santorum went off the deep end years ago. Now he's a joke--and certainly not a serious candidate. The main thrust of my post was about Christie and Bush (note the use of the word "RINO" which doesn't fit Santorum at all). Is this close enough for your timeframe? http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1695449__ARCHIVED_THREAD____Rick_Santorum_officially_running_for_President_again.html&page=4#i50870180 No, they are ginning up froth at Christians and Republicans. Constitutional amendments for a right to life or traditional marriage that would not get 2/3rds of congress and 3/4 of States are theocrat statism. When that failed, as NRA A+ he would force NY Ca etc to respect their theocrat Constitutions, limit commerce clause, birthright citizenship and close the borders.
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Posted: 3/3/2015 12:35:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, when a person says exactly what they are thinking while knowing it will seem brutal and or ruffle some feathers that is brutal honesty. Doesn't mean that I totally agree with him on it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yes his comment about Kyle was disrespectful but he was not in office anymore and it's his right to say what he thinks. The guy will probably piss people off until the day he dies, some people just can't handle brutal honesty. His comments about Chris Kyle were 'brutally honest'? Yes, when a person says exactly what they are thinking while knowing it will seem brutal and or ruffle some feathers that is brutal honesty. Doesn't mean that I totally agree with him on it. |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 12:37:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Please try to focus. This discussion is about THIS ELECTION. Santorum went off the deep end years ago. Now he's a joke--and certainly not a serious candidate. The main thrust of my post was about Christie and Bush (note the use of the word "RINO" which doesn't fit Santorum at all). Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I love how when Rand Paul says dumb shit shit about vaccines, he's "marginalized himself already," but when Jeb Bush says dumb shit about illegals, gun control, etc. that doesn't count. It only counts when RP says it. When Jeb or any of the Santorum candidates say stupid shit it is ignored by the RINO lovers. LOL It's not stupid to them. They agree with those positions and statements. Can either of you find ONE post supporting either of those guys on this site? Just one? Oh, and Christie while you are at it. *This post is kryptonite and will be ignored. Do you honestly not remember the people who supported Rick Santorum here? http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1269870 Please try to focus. This discussion is about THIS ELECTION. Santorum went off the deep end years ago. Now he's a joke--and certainly not a serious candidate. The main thrust of my post was about Christie and Bush (note the use of the word "RINO" which doesn't fit Santorum at all). Yeah, okay. Retard Rick is the exact same douchebag he was five years ago. Anyway, here you go. Jan of 2014. http://www.ar15.com/forums/manageReply.html?a=quote&b=1&f=5&t=1723622&r=52361573&page=5 Now pick up those goal posts and move them again. How long do we play this game? |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 12:38:27 PM EDT
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It's true I haven't voted in some time, outside of voting no on the latest town budget (which passed, of course). I could probably be convinced to pull the lever for the right candidate, not that I think it will matter one way or the other to the outcome of the election or the future of the nation. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The only "game" is you and your kind endlessly yammering about the site's membership supporting the RINO crew when there is ZERO of that here. We don't "hate freedom" and we our lack of support for your nutcase candidates doesn't mean anything other than you support nut cases. And we are able to see through it. Besides, aren't you the guy who has posted repeatedly you don't even vote? Or was that Qweevox? It's true I haven't voted in some time, outside of voting no on the latest town budget (which passed, of course). I could probably be convinced to pull the lever for the right candidate, not that I think it will matter one way or the other to the outcome of the election or the future of the nation. Are you serious?.....after all your smart guy posts and superior tude, you don't even vote? WTF. I should have deduced this much earlier. |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 12:40:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you serious?.....after all your smart guy posts and superior tude, you don't even vote? WTF. I should have deduced this much earlier. I don't vote for gun grabbers or people who want bigger government. It kind of limits the field. |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 12:42:28 PM EDT
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I don't vote for gun grabbers or people who want bigger government. It kind of limits the field. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are you serious?.....after all your smart guy posts and superior tude, you don't even vote? WTF. I should have deduced this much earlier. I don't vote for gun grabbers or people who want bigger government. It kind of limits the field. LOL, go back to the basement. Mom will call you when lunch is ready. LOL. |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 12:53:03 PM EDT
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I don't vote for gun grabbers or people who want bigger government. It kind of limits the field. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are you serious?.....after all your smart guy posts and superior tude, you don't even vote? WTF. I should have deduced this much earlier. I don't vote for gun grabbers or people who want bigger government. It kind of limits the field. The cry of the coward. "I can't have what I want 100%, so I'm not going to do anything." It's just an excuse to not have to try. |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 12:56:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Now pick up those goal posts and move them again. How long do we play this game? Quote HistoryQuoted: Now pick up those goal posts and move them again. How long do we play this game?  |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 12:58:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The cry of the coward. "I can't have what I want 100%, so I'm not going to do anything." It's just an excuse to not have to try. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Are you serious?.....after all your smart guy posts and superior tude, you don't even vote? WTF. I should have deduced this much earlier. I don't vote for gun grabbers or people who want bigger government. It kind of limits the field. The cry of the coward. "I can't have what I want 100%, so I'm not going to do anything." It's just an excuse to not have to try. No, it simply means I don't vote against my own interests. It's not that I wouldn't vote for someone who doesn't agree with me 100% of the time, it's that I don't vote for people actively opposing my views. |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 1:01:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, it simply means I don't vote against my own interests. It's not that I wouldn't vote for someone who doesn't agree with me 100% of the time, it's that I don't vote for people actively opposing my views. Considering government is basically a group of people who are willing to commit acts of violence against us to impose their will. |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 1:12:38 PM EDT
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sd0324, Very nice avatar!
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Posted: 3/3/2015 1:35:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I question the morality of voting. Considering government is basically a group of people who are willing to commit acts of violence against us to impose their will. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No, it simply means I don't vote against my own interests. It's not that I wouldn't vote for someone who doesn't agree with me 100% of the time, it's that I don't vote for people actively opposing my views. Considering government is basically a group of people who are willing to commit acts of violence against us to impose their will. Well, that too. But even from a strictly pragmatic perspective, voting for someone who is promising to increase government spending doesn't move the nation towards my goal of decreased government spending. |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 1:48:42 PM EDT
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paul supporters and liberal-tarians keep complaining about how republicans are all rinos now.... then want rand paul, who supported mitch mcconnell's re-election. they complain when republicans seek out tea party and religious support, then support rand paul when he panders to blacks and illegal immigrants. they want something done about the illegal aliens by republicans, then approve of rand paul saying there will be a place for illegals who want to work, and there will be a pathway to citizenship (but don't call it that, he says). they say republicans aren't conservative enough, then complain that the only way they can will elections is to court those with moderate or progressive view. they say their candidate is a true conservative, but rand paul is really  |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 1:52:23 PM EDT
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Do you think that may be a problem with politics? The honest ones get marginalized and the ones who just say what the people want to hear get elected. If Ron was dishonest and just said what the majority of Republicans wanted to hear he would have been potus a long time ago. I think Rand learned from that and he holds back a lot of his true feelings. Also, he works for the issues that his constituents bring up the most with him. One of them being something that the libertarians he is trying to draw from are against. But it is the job he was elected for and he is one of the few who really does his job. Love them or hate them, the Pauls are some of the most honest respectful polititians of this time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Rand Paul is being marginalized by Rand Paul's remarks after Ferguson, as well as his own comments regarding vaccination. I'll vote for him in the general electionn if he is the Republican Party nominee; but if he continues to marginalize himself the likelihood of that occurring will approach zero. Do you think that may be a problem with politics? The honest ones get marginalized and the ones who just say what the people want to hear get elected. If Ron was dishonest and just said what the majority of Republicans wanted to hear he would have been potus a long time ago. I think Rand learned from that and he holds back a lot of his true feelings. Also, he works for the issues that his constituents bring up the most with him. One of them being something that the libertarians he is trying to draw from are against. But it is the job he was elected for and he is one of the few who really does his job. Love them or hate them, the Pauls are some of the most honest respectful polititians of this time. 
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Posted: 3/3/2015 1:56:29 PM EDT
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cm's programming is stuck on loop mode again.
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Posted: 3/3/2015 2:14:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: cm's programming is stuck on loop mode again. care to dispute rand paul said/supports those things? or are you going to continue with the lib tactics of personnal attacks and misdirection because you have nothing to argue with? |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 2:24:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: care to dispute rand paul said/supports those things? or are you going to continue with the lib tactics of personnal attacks and misdirection because you have nothing to argue with? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: cm's programming is stuck on loop mode again. care to dispute rand paul said/supports those things? or are you going to continue with the lib tactics of personnal attacks and misdirection because you have nothing to argue with? There is no point trying to discuss anything with you. Your constant accusations of people be liberal because they are pro freedom of choices you disagree with. |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 2:33:12 PM EDT
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Adjusted. I'm just pointing out that it's silly to pretend that people supporting a candidate think the candidate won't win. People ALWAYS operate with the positive mindset that their candidate can win. Show me any candidate's pool of supporters who largely consisted of people who thought that there was no chance of their candidate "winning it all". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There is a difference. This thread title is proof of this... 1) Paul Romney supporters organize to create the false impression that there is a surge in support for Paul Romney. 2) Then they complain that Paul Romney is being "marginalized," because people recognize that the supposed surge in support is manufactured and false. Adjusted. I'm just pointing out that it's silly to pretend that people supporting a candidate think the candidate won't win. People ALWAYS operate with the positive mindset that their candidate can win. Show me any candidate's pool of supporters who largely consisted of people who thought that there was no chance of their candidate "winning it all". The difference is, that when others spam polls and create false images of support, THEY don't believe their own false narratives. Hence the delusional complaints of Paul being "marginalized." Just like the complaints that his dad was marginalized and excluded from the debates. Delusions of grandeur. |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 2:35:43 PM EDT
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Just to get a clarification for future use: Cincinnatus: Are you all saying that Rand Paul has no chance at the nomination? Rand Paul has absolutely no chance of winning the nomination. |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 2:36:48 PM EDT
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I love how when Rand Paul says dumb shit shit about vaccines, he's "marginalized himself already," but when Jeb Bush says dumb shit about illegals, gun control, etc. that doesn't count. It only counts when RP says it. When Jeb or any of the Santorum candidates say stupid shit it is ignored by the RINO lovers. LOL It's not stupid to them. They agree with those positions and statements. Please name some of these people whom you claim agree with or support Jeb Bush. Be specific. |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 2:40:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Please name some of these people whom you claim agree with or support Jeb Bush. Be specific. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I love how when Rand Paul says dumb shit shit about vaccines, he's "marginalized himself already," but when Jeb Bush says dumb shit about illegals, gun control, etc. that doesn't count. It only counts when RP says it. When Jeb or any of the Santorum candidates say stupid shit it is ignored by the RINO lovers. LOL It's not stupid to them. They agree with those positions and statements. Please name some of these people whom you claim agree with or support Jeb Bush. Be specific. Does it get boring following the same script election after election? |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 2:41:23 PM EDT
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can rand win independents? prolly not I think he has a better shot at independents than he does rank and file R's TBH. 
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Posted: 3/3/2015 2:43:52 PM EDT
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I love how when Rand Paul says dumb shit shit about vaccines, he's "marginalized himself already," but when Jeb Bush says dumb shit about illegals, gun control, etc. that doesn't count. It only counts when RP says it. When Jeb or any of the Santorum candidates say stupid shit it is ignored by the RINO lovers. LOL It's not stupid to them. They agree with those positions and statements. Please name some of these people whom you claim agree with or support Jeb Bush. Be specific. Does it get boring following the same script election after election? You tell me. Heck, you don't even care enough to vote. |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 2:45:36 PM EDT
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The media is liberal. Why worry about what they say.
If the Republican's cave on the DHS funding then I will not vote for any presidential candidate in 2016. |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 2:47:13 PM EDT
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The media is liberal. Why worry about what they say. If the Republican's cave on the DHS funding then I will not vote for any presidential candidate in 2016. If the Republican Congress caves on DHS funding, you wouldn't vote for a Presidential candidate who isn't even in government? |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 2:47:51 PM EDT
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Please try to focus. This discussion is about THIS ELECTION. Santorum went off the deep end years ago. Now he's a joke--and certainly not a serious candidate. The main thrust of my post was about Christie and Bush (note the use of the word "RINO" which doesn't fit Santorum at all). Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do you honestly not remember the people who supported Rick Santorum here? http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1269870 Please try to focus. This discussion is about THIS ELECTION. Santorum went off the deep end years ago. Now he's a joke--and certainly not a serious candidate. The main thrust of my post was about Christie and Bush (note the use of the word "RINO" which doesn't fit Santorum at all). Santorum is a RINO. He isn't a Republican, he is a Theocratican |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 2:52:33 PM EDT
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Yes his comment about Kyle was disrespectful but he was not in office anymore and it's his right to say what he thinks. The guy will probably piss people off until the day he dies, some people just can't handle brutal honesty. His comments about Chris Kyle were 'brutally honest'? Did Rand make those comments, or his dad Ron? Are you directing this comment to me?
If so, that's mistaken because I'm not the one who brought up Chris Kyle, I merely responded to it... |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 2:53:38 PM EDT
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The difference is, that when others spam polls and create false images of support, THEY don't believe their own false narratives. Hence the delusional complaints of Paul being "marginalized." Just like the complaints that his dad was marginalized and excluded from the debates. Delusions of grandeur. Where's your proof that polls were "spammed" and false images of support were created? And where is your proof that this was specific to Ron Paul's campaign? |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 3:05:23 PM EDT
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Where's your proof that polls were "spammed" and false images of support were created? And where is your proof that this was specific to Ron Paul's campaign? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The difference is, that when others spam polls and create false images of support, THEY don't believe their own false narratives. Hence the delusional complaints of Paul being "marginalized." Just like the complaints that his dad was marginalized and excluded from the debates. Delusions of grandeur. Where's your proof that polls were "spammed" and false images of support were created? And where is your proof that this was specific to Ron Paul's campaign?  
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Posted: 3/3/2015 3:09:35 PM EDT
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The difference is, that when others spam polls and create false images of support, THEY don't believe their own false narratives. Hence the delusional complaints of Paul being "marginalized." Just like the complaints that his dad was marginalized and excluded from the debates. Delusions of grandeur. Where's your proof that polls were "spammed" and false images of support were created? And where is your proof that this was specific to Ron Paul's campaign?
You're always dismissing opinions not based in solid facts, so show me yours. I know of a few spammed, insignificant online polls that were spammed just like ARfcom firemissions for online gun control polls. But where's your proof of a significant event/poll that could be said to be "spammed" and made to show fake support? |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 3:14:28 PM EDT
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You're always dismissing opinions not based in solid facts, so show me yours. I know of a few spammed, insignificant online polls that were spammed just like ARfcom firemissions for online gun control polls. But where's your proof of a significant event/poll that could be said to be "spammed" and made to show fake support? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The difference is, that when others spam polls and create false images of support, THEY don't believe their own false narratives. Hence the delusional complaints of Paul being "marginalized." Just like the complaints that his dad was marginalized and excluded from the debates. Delusions of grandeur. Where's your proof that polls were "spammed" and false images of support were created? And where is your proof that this was specific to Ron Paul's campaign?
You're always dismissing opinions not based in solid facts, so show me yours. I know of a few spammed, insignificant online polls that were spammed just like ARfcom firemissions for online gun control polls. But where's your proof of a significant event/poll that could be said to be "spammed" and made to show fake support? You ARE kidding, right? |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 3:15:34 PM EDT
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You ARE kidding, right? I want to make sure we're talking about the same things. Post it up. |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 3:17:17 PM EDT
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They're going to throw it all away with Bush. I am afraid that you're correct. |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 3:19:42 PM EDT
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You ARE kidding, right? I want to make sure we're talking about the same things. Post it up. Are you actually denying that Paul supporters have repeatedly engaged in organized actions to swarm GOP conventions and CPAC meetings and States' cauci and onlieg polls and phone in talk shows, etc, etc? |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 3:23:44 PM EDT
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Are you actually denying that Paul supporters have repeatedly engaged in organized actions to swarm GOP conventions and CPAC meetings and States' cauci and onlieg polls and phone in talk shows, etc, etc? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You ARE kidding, right? I want to make sure we're talking about the same things. Post it up. Are you actually denying that Paul supporters have repeatedly engaged in organized actions to swarm GOP conventions and CPAC meetings and States' cauci and onlieg polls and phone in talk shows, etc, etc? How is that a false image of support? Should the people you disagree with just sit at home and not be active in the nomination process? Would that be the "true" image of support? |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 3:28:18 PM EDT
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lol paul supporters and liberal-tarians keep complaining about how republicans are all rinos now.... then want rand paul, who supported mitch mcconnell's re-election. Srs question, do you get your memes from DU or New Blue Planet? |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 3:31:09 PM EDT
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How is that a false image of support? Should the people you disagree with just sit at home and not be active in the nomination process? Would that be the "true" image of support? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You ARE kidding, right? I want to make sure we're talking about the same things. Post it up. Are you actually denying that Paul supporters have repeatedly engaged in organized actions to swarm GOP conventions and CPAC meetings and States' cauci and onlieg polls and phone in talk shows, etc, etc? How is that a false image of support? Should the people you disagree with just sit at home and not be active in the nomination process? Would that be the "true" image of support? Paul supporters support Paul. Nope, there's no denying that. I guess I'll just never understand such slavish devotion to politicians. It really creeps me out. Heck, I don't really like ANY politicians. Especially entitled politicians that are part of political families like the Clintons, Bushes, Kennedys, Pauls, etc. |
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