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Posted: 12/11/2014 7:14:43 PM EDT
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Please link to him stating he wishes to outlaw birth control. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Please link to him stating he wishes to outlaw birth control. You have to admire his devotion to the concept of state's rights. “Democrats say that one of the reasons you lost that year was because you are, in their view, out of the mainstream and they talk about the Griswold v. Connecticut case--that was an issue that Casey used against you--about whether or not a state has the right to make a law against married couples using contraceptives. Is that something you’re at all concerned about? “The state has a right to do that,” said Santorum. “I have never questioned that the state has a right to do that. It is not a constitutional right. The state has the right to pass whatever statues they have.” Oh wait, what's that? Maybe not so much after all... "As Abraham Lincoln said, states do not have the right to do wrong. And so there are folks, here who said states can do this and I won’t get involved in that.
I will get involved in that because the states, as a president I will get involved because the states don’t have a right to undermine the basic fundamental values that hold this country together. America is an ideal. It’s not just a constitution, it is an ideal. It’s a set of morals and principles that were established in that declaration, and states don’t have the right, just like they didn’t have the right to do slavery." |
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Posted: 12/11/2014 7:21:45 PM EDT
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Well one thing you can give him is, he sure has tenacity.
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Posted: 12/11/2014 7:33:26 PM EDT
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Damn dude....give it up.
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Posted: 12/11/2014 7:43:05 PM EDT
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You have to admire his devotion to the concept of state's rights. Oh wait, what's that? Maybe not so much after all... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Please link to him stating he wishes to outlaw birth control. You have to admire his devotion to the concept of state's rights. “Democrats say that one of the reasons you lost that year was because you are, in their view, out of the mainstream and they talk about the Griswold v. Connecticut case--that was an issue that Casey used against you--about whether or not a state has the right to make a law against married couples using contraceptives. Is that something you’re at all concerned about? “The state has a right to do that,” said Santorum. “I have never questioned that the state has a right to do that. It is not a constitutional right. The state has the right to pass whatever statues they have.” Oh wait, what's that? Maybe not so much after all... "As Abraham Lincoln said, states do not have the right to do wrong. And so there are folks, here who said states can do this and I won’t get involved in that.
I will get involved in that because the states, as a president I will get involved because the states don’t have a right to undermine the basic fundamental values that hold this country together. America is an ideal. It’s not just a constitution, it is an ideal. It’s a set of morals and principles that were established in that declaration, and states don’t have the right, just like they didn’t have the right to do slavery." Meh, just shows he's pro-states rights but doesn't hold them to be limitless. So he's a moron, but he's not looking to ban contraception. But I'm sure supporting state's rights to do one type of thing but not another is like, totally the same as stoning rape victims and shit. Christian Taliban! |
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Posted: 12/11/2014 8:18:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Meh, just shows he's pro-states rights but doesn't hold them to be limitless. So he's a moron, but he's not looking to ban contraception. But I'm sure supporting state's rights to do one type of thing but not another is like, totally the same as stoning rape victims and shit. Christian Taliban! He's a theocratic statist tool. You'll do what his God wants and he's more than happy to use the bludgeon of government to do it. Don't pretend for a minute that he is in any way interested in liberty. |
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Posted: 12/11/2014 8:21:56 PM EDT
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He's a theocratic statist tool. You'll do what his God wants and he's more than happy to use the bludgeon of government to do it. Don't pretend for a minute that he is in any way interested in liberty. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Meh, just shows he's pro-states rights but doesn't hold them to be limitless. So he's a moron, but he's not looking to ban contraception. But I'm sure supporting state's rights to do one type of thing but not another is like, totally the same as stoning rape victims and shit. Christian Taliban! He's a theocratic statist tool. You'll do what his God wants and he's more than happy to use the bludgeon of government to do it. Don't pretend for a minute that he is in any way interested in liberty. Yes, saying that comparing a guy who doesn't want to redefine marriage to the guys who stone rape victims and throw acid in girl's faces is stupid means that I'm saying he's a champion of liberty. You've caught me. |
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Posted: 12/11/2014 8:39:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, saying that comparing a guy who doesn't want to redefine marriage to the guys who stone rape victims and throw acid in girl's faces is stupid means that I'm saying he's a champion of liberty. You've caught me. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Meh, just shows he's pro-states rights but doesn't hold them to be limitless. So he's a moron, but he's not looking to ban contraception. But I'm sure supporting state's rights to do one type of thing but not another is like, totally the same as stoning rape victims and shit. Christian Taliban! He's a theocratic statist tool. You'll do what his God wants and he's more than happy to use the bludgeon of government to do it. Don't pretend for a minute that he is in any way interested in liberty. Yes, saying that comparing a guy who doesn't want to redefine marriage to the guys who stone rape victims and throw acid in girl's faces is stupid means that I'm saying he's a champion of liberty. You've caught me. Again, there are differences of kind and differences of degree. He is is decidedly in the *kind* of using the government to tell people to do what his God wants them to do. We're just lucky enough to live in a country where we can tell him to get fucked. |
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Posted: 12/11/2014 9:15:48 PM EDT
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Again, there are differences of kind and differences of degree. He is is decidedly in the *kind* of using the government to tell people to do what his God wants them to do. We're just lucky enough to live in a country where we can tell him to get fucked. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Meh, just shows he's pro-states rights but doesn't hold them to be limitless. So he's a moron, but he's not looking to ban contraception. But I'm sure supporting state's rights to do one type of thing but not another is like, totally the same as stoning rape victims and shit. Christian Taliban! He's a theocratic statist tool. You'll do what his God wants and he's more than happy to use the bludgeon of government to do it. Don't pretend for a minute that he is in any way interested in liberty. Yes, saying that comparing a guy who doesn't want to redefine marriage to the guys who stone rape victims and throw acid in girl's faces is stupid means that I'm saying he's a champion of liberty. You've caught me. Again, there are differences of kind and differences of degree. He is is decidedly in the *kind* of using the government to tell people to do what his God wants them to do. We're just lucky enough to live in a country where we can tell him to get fucked. All law is codified morality. He derives his enforced morality from the religious system that helped bring about the Enlightenment and Western civilization. You derive yours from somewhere else, and then use the government to tell people to do what you think they should. You're different from him in degree, not kind. |
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Posted: 12/11/2014 9:19:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: All law is codified morality. He derives his enforced morality from the religious system that helped bring about the Enlightenment and Western civilization. You derive yours from somewhere else, and then use the government to tell people to do what you think they should. You're different from him in degree, not kind. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Meh, just shows he's pro-states rights but doesn't hold them to be limitless. So he's a moron, but he's not looking to ban contraception. But I'm sure supporting state's rights to do one type of thing but not another is like, totally the same as stoning rape victims and shit. Christian Taliban! He's a theocratic statist tool. You'll do what his God wants and he's more than happy to use the bludgeon of government to do it. Don't pretend for a minute that he is in any way interested in liberty. Yes, saying that comparing a guy who doesn't want to redefine marriage to the guys who stone rape victims and throw acid in girl's faces is stupid means that I'm saying he's a champion of liberty. You've caught me. Again, there are differences of kind and differences of degree. He is is decidedly in the *kind* of using the government to tell people to do what his God wants them to do. We're just lucky enough to live in a country where we can tell him to get fucked. All law is codified morality. He derives his enforced morality from the religious system that helped bring about the Enlightenment and Western civilization. You derive yours from somewhere else, and then use the government to tell people to do what you think they should. You're different from him in degree, not kind. Well, sure, if by kind, you mean that you don't actually know me from Adam and have never actually read anything I've ever posted here. |
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Posted: 12/11/2014 9:26:39 PM EDT
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He's the exact personification of the term "smiley glad-hands" as mentioned in the Tool song "Aenema"
He is as fake as they come. The perfect politician.
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Posted: 12/11/2014 9:52:36 PM EDT
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and the press will paint the republican party as a bunch of crazies that think the earth is 3000 years old and the devil planted fossils. We as the republican party need to separate church and state or we are doomed for more Clintons and Obamas, |
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Posted: 12/11/2014 10:01:20 PM EDT
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He is not worth getting upset over, that tool doesn't have a chance in hell of getting the nomination.
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Posted: 12/11/2014 10:08:10 PM EDT
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The fact that so many of you so-called conservatives are absolutley smearing Santorum is sickening.
He's one of the few moral constitutional conservatives that we have left. The fact that you all hate him so much further confirms that even the strongest pillars of American society are replete with moral decay and decrepidation. 
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Posted: 12/11/2014 10:09:14 PM EDT
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Yay more Christian Taliban Yay, more retarded atheism. |
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Posted: 12/11/2014 10:10:19 PM EDT
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Santorum: "the frothy mixture of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the byproduct of anal sex" Come on mods. Pls delete this filth. |
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Posted: 12/11/2014 10:28:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The fact that so many of you so-called conservatives are absolutley smearing Santorum is sickening. He's one of the few moral constitutional conservatives that we have left. The fact that you all hate him so much further confirms that even the strongest pillars of American society are replete with moral decay and decrepidation. He may be our only chance to make blasphemy and disbelief in Jesus illegal. In memory of gonoles, we should all support his candidacy. |
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Posted: 12/11/2014 10:30:58 PM EDT
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His name was gonoles
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Posted: 12/11/2014 10:54:36 PM EDT
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It's a rather accurate characterization. The man believes in an invasive, overbearing statist vision driven by fundamentalist theology. He's anti-gun, anti-freedom, and believes in using the threat of government to control people "for their own moral good." He's severely out of touch with the country and reality. It's sickening that an individual like him effectively wants the same actions and results as Michael Bloomberg, but because the bullshit cover stories are different, a bunch of deluded blind zealots and slavish adherents defend him. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yay more Christian Taliban One of the most ridiculous sorts of accusations against people I've ever heard on this site. I'm not sure people really realize how absurd it sounds to call other that. While I don't agree with Santorum on the majority of political issues I never understood the bile, the ire, and the vile hatred reserved for him by many on this site and elsewhere. It's pretty disgusting, actually. It's a rather accurate characterization. The man believes in an invasive, overbearing statist vision driven by fundamentalist theology. He's anti-gun, anti-freedom, and believes in using the threat of government to control people "for their own moral good." He's severely out of touch with the country and reality. It's sickening that an individual like him effectively wants the same actions and results as Michael Bloomberg, but because the bullshit cover stories are different, a bunch of deluded blind zealots and slavish adherents defend him. It's not even remotely accurate, not if you actually know what Christians and Taliban are. I don't think he's a good candidate, but he seems to be a decent person and yet people act like he's some awful scumbag or even lower than that. It's disgusting. Makes this site sound like it's hosted by UC Berkeley or something. |
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Posted: 12/11/2014 10:58:04 PM EDT
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If you are actually being serious, you are literally the definition of "low information voter". Or maybe you just support his insane views of big gov controlling the lives of the peasants. In that case, you are no better than the worst socialists that I am sure you will say you adamantly despise. While the phrase "Christian Taliban" is usually comparable to nails on a chalkboard, Santorum is one of the few instances where it somewhat accurately describes his fucked up ideology. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Seems like a decent God fearing man. If you are actually being serious, you are literally the definition of "low information voter". Or maybe you just support his insane views of big gov controlling the lives of the peasants. In that case, you are no better than the worst socialists that I am sure you will say you adamantly despise. While the phrase "Christian Taliban" is usually comparable to nails on a chalkboard, Santorum is one of the few instances where it somewhat accurately describes his fucked up ideology. He actually does seem like a decent God-fearing man. If you actually think his ideology is even close to that of a Christian form of the Taliban it's you who is ignorant, not the person to whom you responded. |
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Posted: 12/11/2014 11:00:43 PM EDT
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He's a theocratic statist tool. You'll do what his God wants and he's more than happy to use the bludgeon of government to do it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Meh, just shows he's pro-states rights but doesn't hold them to be limitless. So he's a moron, but he's not looking to ban contraception. But I'm sure supporting state's rights to do one type of thing but not another is like, totally the same as stoning rape victims and shit. Christian Taliban! He's a theocratic statist tool. You'll do what his God wants and he's more than happy to use the bludgeon of government to do it. This. |
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Posted: 12/11/2014 11:48:41 PM EDT
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He'll be good for some idiotic soundbites to tar all Republicans with during the race.
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Posted: 12/11/2014 11:51:49 PM EDT
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What a coincidence ....... I'm officially not voting for him.
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Posted: 12/11/2014 11:57:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He may be our only chance to make blasphemy and disbelief in Jesus illegal. In memory of gonoles, we should all support his candidacy. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The fact that so many of you so-called conservatives are absolutley smearing Santorum is sickening. He's one of the few moral constitutional conservatives that we have left. The fact that you all hate him so much further confirms that even the strongest pillars of American society are replete with moral decay and decrepidation. He may be our only chance to make blasphemy and disbelief in Jesus illegal. In memory of gonoles, we should all support his candidacy.  Gonades shirley was a hoot.
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Posted: 12/12/2014 12:01:24 AM EDT
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and the press will paint the republican party as a bunch of crazies that think the earth is 3000 years old and the devil planted fossils. We as the republican party need to separate church and state or we are doomed for more Clintons and Obamas, Just on an electoral basis, Goldwater was right about the religious right. It's always interesting seeing the Dominionists defend his brand of nonsense. His positions are always going to have just enough support from that quarter to provide a platform to do damage from. The worst part is they're completely blind to it. |
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Posted: 12/12/2014 12:03:43 AM EDT
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Why not just not vote for him?
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Posted: 12/12/2014 1:05:48 AM EDT
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Why would ANYONE here not like Santorum??????
He absolutely stands up for everything right?? Do you just hate Jesus that much that anyone Christian draws your ire?? Blows my mind. Its like an Obama lovers forum around here sometimes.. |
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Posted: 12/12/2014 1:07:52 AM EDT
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Why would ANYONE here not like Santorum?????? He absolutely stands up for everything right?? 
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Posted: 12/12/2014 1:09:41 AM EDT
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Why would ANYONE here not like Santorum?????? He absolutely stands up for everything right?? Do you just hate Jesus that much that anyone Christian draws your ire?? Blows my mind. Its like an Obama lovers forum around here sometimes.. Lulz! I think it is time for Wingnutx to post some quotes. I guess voting to expand the welfare state is standing up for everything right? The guy has a poor record on fiscal conservatism. He also says dumb stuff like contraception is dangerous, and that marriage is not for love but for procreation. If you want to lose in 16, then by all means vote for him. |
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Posted: 12/12/2014 1:24:57 AM EDT
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Fuck Rick Santorum... That weasel creeps me out. I always thought he was a bit off in the head. I would likely not vote for him. Won't vote for that Cuban boy down in Florida either. |
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Posted: 12/12/2014 1:41:06 AM EDT
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Santorum is no different then the rest of these old recycled guys who have an out of touch ego.........I think they all suffer from dillusions of grandeur, including Romney, Jeb Bush, the fat guy from Jersey, and Rick Perry. Any minute I expect to hear from that other clown Gingrich too..
But don't for a minute think that a dull idealogue like Ted Cruz has a chance either. I don't know WHO the hell we will run against Hillary to stop her. |
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Posted: 12/12/2014 1:44:18 AM EDT
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It's not even remotely accurate, not if you actually know what Christians and Taliban are. I don't think he's a good candidate, but he seems to be a decent person and yet people act like he's some awful scumbag or even lower than that. It's disgusting. Makes this site sound like it's hosted by UC Berkeley or something. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yay more Christian Taliban One of the most ridiculous sorts of accusations against people I've ever heard on this site. I'm not sure people really realize how absurd it sounds to call other that. While I don't agree with Santorum on the majority of political issues I never understood the bile, the ire, and the vile hatred reserved for him by many on this site and elsewhere. It's pretty disgusting, actually. It's a rather accurate characterization. The man believes in an invasive, overbearing statist vision driven by fundamentalist theology. He's anti-gun, anti-freedom, and believes in using the threat of government to control people "for their own moral good." He's severely out of touch with the country and reality. It's sickening that an individual like him effectively wants the same actions and results as Michael Bloomberg, but because the bullshit cover stories are different, a bunch of deluded blind zealots and slavish adherents defend him. It's not even remotely accurate, not if you actually know what Christians and Taliban are. I don't think he's a good candidate, but he seems to be a decent person and yet people act like he's some awful scumbag or even lower than that. It's disgusting. Makes this site sound like it's hosted by UC Berkeley or something. Except he's not a Christian. Much like a specific portion of the membership here - and I won't name names because doing so would get me banned, some of them are inexplicably popular - he is a Christian Dominionist. Much like an Islamist, it's a warped, aggressive, authoritarian theological offshot that only bears a passing resemblance to the religion it sloughed off from. You know what that sentence can also accurately describe? The fucking Taliban. The only thing preventing Frothy from getting wound up to the same awful level here is our secular Renaissance legal framework keep his shit on the outside of the moat. If you dig into some of his public statements, watch recordings of him speaking live, it's very clear that there are only two things holding him back from calling for the execution of homosexuals and the imposition by force of his interpretation of God's Word as law: our legal system is built to prevent it (he hates that part, and has actively lied about the mechanics to try and undermine it), and he knows it would cause PR damage to his efforts to gain power. So in essence, he's willing to lowball his true intentions and desires because he knows they're extreme and untenable with the people he's trying to con into voting for him in order to realize those intentions and desires. |
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Posted: 12/12/2014 1:48:42 AM EDT
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Why not just not vote for him? Maybe because he's a statist piece of shit? |
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Posted: 12/12/2014 1:48:49 AM EDT
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Fuck you Rick. Go the fuck away. Maybe me and my girlfriend will go buy a sex toy next week. There oughta be a law huh asshole. |
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Posted: 12/12/2014 1:52:40 AM EDT
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Fuck you Rick. Go the fuck away. Maybe me and my girlfriend will go buy a sex toy next week. There oughta be a law huh asshole. You know, Jesus would not approve of your foot fetish. |
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Posted: 12/12/2014 1:54:39 AM EDT
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Again? If at first and second and third you don't succeed try, try again unless you are a fuck wad like Santorum then just please stop.
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Posted: 12/12/2014 2:00:18 AM EDT
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Do I need to start another thread where Obama's anti state's rights comments turn out to be Santorum's? 'Cause it's looking like I do. That thread was funny... up until a bunch of people started saying "fuck the constitution, Rick is right." 
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Posted: 12/12/2014 2:01:32 AM EDT
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The fact that so many of you so-called conservatives are absolutley smearing Santorum is sickening. He's one of the few moral constitutional conservatives that we have left. The fact that you all hate him so much further confirms that even the strongest pillars of American society are replete with moral decay and decrepidation.
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Posted: 12/12/2014 2:02:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why would ANYONE here not like Santorum?????? He absolutely stands up for everything right?? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v361/Extorris/Gifs/csm_zps13c9ba3c.gif  |
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Posted: 12/12/2014 2:03:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why would ANYONE here not like Santorum?????? He absolutely stands up for everything right?? Do you just hate Jesus that much that anyone Christian draws your ire?? Blows my mind. Its like an Obama lovers forum around here sometimes..  |
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Posted: 12/12/2014 2:18:37 AM EDT
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You know, Jesus would not approve of your foot fetish. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Fuck you Rick. Go the fuck away. Maybe me and my girlfriend will go buy a sex toy next week. There oughta be a law huh asshole. You know, Jesus would not approve of your foot fetish. I don't think Jesus would care. Trick Ricky though would send me off to the camps though. |
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Posted: 12/12/2014 2:20:26 AM EDT
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I don't think Jesus would care. Trick Ricky though would send me off to the camps though. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Fuck you Rick. Go the fuck away. Maybe me and my girlfriend will go buy a sex toy next week. There oughta be a law huh asshole. You know, Jesus would not approve of your foot fetish. I don't think Jesus would care. Trick Ricky though would send me off to the camps though. Didn't Jesus wash a hooker's feet? |
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Posted: 12/12/2014 2:32:30 AM EDT
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Didn't Jesus wash a hooker's feet? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Fuck you Rick. Go the fuck away. Maybe me and my girlfriend will go buy a sex toy next week. There oughta be a law huh asshole. You know, Jesus would not approve of your foot fetish. I don't think Jesus would care. Trick Ricky though would send me off to the camps though. Didn't Jesus wash a hooker's feet? See?? Santorum would have me gassed, right after he went and took a wide stance in a men's room. |
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Posted: 12/12/2014 2:34:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why would ANYONE here not like Santorum?????? He absolutely stands up for everything right?? Do you just hate Jesus that much that anyone Christian draws your ire?? Blows my mind. Its like an Obama lovers forum around here sometimes.. He wants government to dictate bedroom activities between consenting adults. Screw him. And his ugly kids. He's an embarrassment to Republicans, and feeds the media the kind of shit they can't wait to throw at us. Right now, there's TV execs masturbating feverishly to the idea that Santorum will be near a live microphone and talk about rape. He's douchey in person, too.
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Posted: 12/12/2014 7:11:36 AM EDT
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Why not just not vote for him? Maybe because he's a statist piece of shit? So you're voting for him? |
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Posted: 12/12/2014 8:04:47 AM EDT
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Looking forward to another 20 primary debates
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Posted: 12/12/2014 8:13:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why would ANYONE here not like Santorum?????? He absolutely stands up for everything right?? Do you just hate Jesus that much that anyone Christian draws your ire?? Blows my mind. Its like an Obama lovers forum around here sometimes.. Like when he ran to the left of Romney by attacking his opposition to bailouts, and appealed to Michigan Democrats to cross over and help him in the Republican primary? That was awesome.
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Posted: 12/12/2014 8:15:53 AM EDT
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Why not just not vote for him? Maybe because he's a statist piece of shit? So you're voting for him? No, they are ginning up froth at Christians and Republicans. Constitutional amendments for a right to life or traditional marriage that would not get 2/3rds of congress and 3/4 of States are theocrat statism. When that failed, as NRA A+ he would force NY Ca etc to respect their theocrat Constitutions, limit commerce clause, birthright citizenship and close the borders. It's like dailykos in this thread. |
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Posted: 12/12/2014 8:21:23 AM EDT
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No chance in a national election. None. What he will do is spoil the best conservatives chance to win the nomination. Say what you want about Gingrich, but he would have handed Obama's ass to him in a debate... I don't know if he could have won the general election, but he would have done as well as Romney. I've said it for two years now, Christy will win the nomination... Clinton will win the general election. Mark it. |
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Posted: 12/12/2014 8:28:47 AM EDT
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What he will do is spoil the best conservatives chance to win the nomination. Say what you want about Gingrich, but he would have handed Obama's ass to him in a debate... I don't know if he could have won the general election, but he would have done as well as Romney. I've said it for two years now, Christy will win the nomination... Clinton will win the general election. Mark it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No chance in a national election. None. What he will do is spoil the best conservatives chance to win the nomination. Say what you want about Gingrich, but he would have handed Obama's ass to him in a debate... I don't know if he could have won the general election, but he would have done as well as Romney. I've said it for two years now, Christy will win the nomination... Clinton will win the general election. Mark it. After the con Boehner pulled last night it doesn't make any difference. |
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Posted: 12/12/2014 10:49:29 AM EDT
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What he will do is spoil the best conservatives chance to win the nomination. Say what you want about Gingrich, but he would have handed Obama's ass to him in a debate... I don't know if he could have won the general election, but he would have done as well as Romney. I've said it for two years now, Christy will win the nomination... Clinton will win the general election. Mark it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No chance in a national election. None. What he will do is spoil the best conservatives chance to win the nomination. Say what you want about Gingrich, but he would have handed Obama's ass to him in a debate... I don't know if he could have won the general election, but he would have done as well as Romney. I've said it for two years now, Christy will win the nomination... Clinton will win the general election. Mark it. I'm pretty sure Clinton won't be the nominee, and I'm certain Christie won't be. We'll see how it turns out, but my political instincts and prognostications have been pretty accurate over the years. I don't believe Santorum will win a single state this cycle, no genuine conservatives would ever vote for him. He'll get enough support from dominionist churches to stay in the race to the end but he won't get another surge, his surge in 2012 wasn't about him it was about Romney. He's an 8% candidate in the GOP primaries, and he'll pull exactly the kind of votes that tend to result in weak nominees. He'll continue to damage the Republican brand but I doubt he hurts a decent candidate this cycle. |
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