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Posted: 7/27/2014 3:14:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Disapointed. I was expecting a dude with an Aussie style hat. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I have only a couple of videos worthy of posting from yesterday. Too many ammo failures and again some issues with the "hammer follow" I discussed earlier. Still a good time getting out and sunburned. Here is Madcap72 on my gun.  http://youtu.be/NUZy3faIegYDisapointed. I was expecting a dude with an Aussie style hat. Looks like... We both got burned...  |
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Posted: 7/27/2014 3:19:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So, for background to the video, that was the first time I have ever gotten to fire a bumpfire gun, and I was making rapid accurate hits at 550.  The thing is a beast. Skillets was keeping a group at a high cyclic rate at that distance, that is as good as many peoples slow fire groups at the same range. From a conceptual standpoint I think it's really freaking effective and can see why the M27 IAR could be a lot more effective than a SAW. Do you even beltfed brah? |
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Posted: 7/27/2014 3:29:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So, for background to the video, that was the first time I have ever gotten to fire a bumpfire gun, and I was making rapid accurate hits at 550. The thing is a beast. Skillets was keeping a group at a high cyclic rate at that distance, that is as good as many peoples slow fire groups at the same range. From a conceptual standpoint I think it's really freaking effective and can see why the M27 IAR could be a lot more effective than a SAW. Do you even beltfed brah? |
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Posted: 7/27/2014 3:34:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So, for background to the video, that was the first time I have ever gotten to fire a bumpfire gun, and I was making rapid accurate hits at 550. The thing is a beast. Skillets was keeping a group at a high cyclic rate at that distance, that is as good as many peoples slow fire groups at the same range. From a conceptual standpoint I think it's really freaking effective and can see why the M27 IAR could be a lot more effective than a SAW. Do you even beltfed brah?  Not pictured in this photo is the bumper sticker saying "my other belt feed shoots hand grenades". I'll take that over a 2 time marketing failure anytime. Do you even belt feed, brah?  |
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Posted: 7/27/2014 3:35:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hey skillet I'm thinking about building up one of my AR's with a fostech stock along with a Geissele SD3G. I was wondering what is the best for this trigger and stock setup for the least amount of failures? A semi/full auto bolt carrier? And which buffer to go along with it a H1,H2 or H3 Also is there anyway you could post up a couple of pictures of your current setup? I was running an M16 carrier with an H buffer and using the SD3G trigger. I was getting hammer follow once or twice per mag when bumping the gun. Some other changes I've made include a Tubb flatwire spring and I've switched to a JARD trigger for the slower lock time. I haven't gotten to try out my changes yet though. Hopefully this coming weekend I'll get some video.
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Posted: 7/27/2014 3:37:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you even beltfed brah? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So, for background to the video, that was the first time I have ever gotten to fire a bumpfire gun, and I was making rapid accurate hits at 550. The thing is a beast. Skillets was keeping a group at a high cyclic rate at that distance, that is as good as many peoples slow fire groups at the same range. From a conceptual standpoint I think it's really freaking effective and can see why the M27 IAR could be a lot more effective than a SAW. Do you even beltfed brah? https://scontent-b-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t1.0-9/996175_10152928065075346_2085322426_n.jpg Not pictured in this photo is the bumper sticker saying "my other belt feed shoots hand grenades". I'll take that over a 2 time marketing failure anytime. Do you even belt feed, brah? You got me. Although I think the M27 should have been at least a belt fed.  |
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Posted: 7/27/2014 3:46:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: snip You got me. Although I think the M27 should have been at least a belt fed. Having used SAW's, and having used Skillets gun that replicates the an IAR style rifle, I'd take an IAR is a fucking heartbeat. Especially with something like that 60 round surefire mag. Everyone says SAW's are great for breaking contact (never had to, so no experience), Suppressing (which I have my own feelings on) or fixing enemy positions for a maneuver element to make contact. So, basically SAW's from a pragmatic standpoint are good at shooting dirt. The IAR is good at shooting badguys, and if push comes to shove, dirt really close to the badguys. ETA- also the IAR is a Marine specific rifle, and is filling the role the USMC originally intended for an automatic rifle. The SAW was adopted because the ARMY got it, NOT because the SAW filled the role the Marines were looking for. I think the IAR should have been Ultimax-100, like it should have been in the 80's, but that of course is my armchair commando perspective. |
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Posted: 7/27/2014 3:51:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you see any possible problem with the gun being able to move enough with a bipod like this, without damaging the bipod? What if I were shooting from a solid surface like a table as opposed to dirt? I have read where you modified the M60 bipod to allow for some give. Would that be necessary with this bipod? ETA: I see where you answered this question with "dremel" a couple of post later. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So badass. I really like the fostech. Could you do this with a shrike upper and a rail mounted bipod? How much difference is the rail vs. On the bbl? The only reason my bipod is on the barrel now is that it was how the M60 bipod was designed to be. It has a classic look that (when offered to me by a poster here) I couldn't say no to. I think if I were trying to do something more "modern carbine" looking, I'd probably use the GG&G bipod http://www.primaryarms.com/v/vspfiles/photos/GGG-1125-2T.jpg Do you see any possible problem with the gun being able to move enough with a bipod like this, without damaging the bipod? What if I were shooting from a solid surface like a table as opposed to dirt? I have read where you modified the M60 bipod to allow for some give. Would that be necessary with this bipod? ETA: I see where you answered this question with "dremel" a couple of post later. |
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Posted: 7/27/2014 3:54:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You got me. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: snip You got me. Although I think the M27 should have been at least a belt fed. Having used SAW's, and having used Skillets gun that replicates the an IAR style rifle, I'd take an IAR is a fucking heartbeat. Especially with something like that 60 round surefire mag. Everyone says SAW's are great for breaking contact (never had to, so no experience), Suppressing (which I have my own feelings on) or fixing enemy positions for a maneuver element to make contact. So, basically SAW's from a pragmatic standpoint are good at shooting dirt. The IAR is good at shooting badguys, and if push comes to shove, dirt really close to the badguys. ETA- also the IAR is a Marine specific rifle, and is filling the role the USMC originally intended for an automatic rifle. The SAW was adopted because the ARMY got it, NOT because the SAW filled the role the Marines were looking for. I think the IAR should have been Ultimax-100, like it should have been in the 80's, but that of course is my armchair commando perspective. It's ammo capacity that gets to me. I prefer to have 200 rounds instead of 60 rounds. Also, didn't the Surefire mags have issues with the followers or something? I remember hearing about that. |
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Posted: 7/27/2014 3:58:05 PM EDT
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As far as that belt feed picture...
Original AR-10 prototype  Supposed Colt prototype.  Ciener version  Valkrie (one pictured earlier)  Attached FileSlidefire  I see a trend... |
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Posted: 7/27/2014 4:03:59 PM EDT
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But yea, I see the bumpfire stocks and high capacity mags being a GREAT alternative to class 3 and beltfeeds.
Not to mention, besides price the accessibility is unparallelled. I can mail order some surefire mags and a bump stock and spend a few hundred bucks. Can't do that with a MG. Also, the ROF in my video is coming in at 850 RPM. |
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Posted: 7/27/2014 8:05:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's ammo capacity that gets to me. I prefer to have 200 rounds instead of 60 rounds. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: snip It's ammo capacity that gets to me. I prefer to have 200 rounds instead of 60 rounds. Also, didn't the Surefire mags have issues with the followers or something? I remember hearing about that. Also, It's not like there is a 60 round cap on mags, that just happens to be what I used in the video. Surefire mags had hilarious problems where they ate shit and the followers jammed up, that seems to have been resolved. |
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Posted: 7/27/2014 10:57:39 PM EDT
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Also, didn't the Surefire mags have issues with the followers or something? I remember hearing about that. From a practicality standpoint, if you can get the same effects on target with 60 rounds and a quick reload if needed, why have 200? Also, It's not like there is a 60 round cap on mags, that just happens to be what I used in the video. Surefire mags had hilarious problems where they ate shit and the followers jammed up, that seems to have been resolved. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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From a practicality standpoint, if you can get the same effects on target with 60 rounds and a quick reload if needed, why have 200? Also, It's not like there is a 60 round cap on mags, that just happens to be what I used in the video. Surefire mags had hilarious problems where they ate shit and the followers jammed up, that seems to have been resolved. If the surefire mags have unfucked themselves, this is a pretty decent weapon. |
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Posted: 7/27/2014 11:04:03 PM EDT
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I have cycled through that surefire 60 you see in the videos about 15-20 times or so with no stops. I trust it.
I have a couple more videos I will upload later, but I am somewhat bummed about the trip out. There were times it ran like a raped ape, and a few times it seemed to not like the SD3G/Fostech combo. I was mostly unhappy with my ammo. Ruined anything I wanted to do test-wise. I need to get a barrel that is known for not choking on steel case, otherwise this thing will be too expensive to shoot. |
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Posted: 7/27/2014 11:18:44 PM EDT
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I have cycled through that surefire 60 you see in the videos about 15-20 times or so with no stops. I trust it. I have a couple more videos I will upload later, but I am somewhat bummed about the trip out. There were times it ran like a raped ape, and a few times it seemed to not like the SD3G/Fostech combo. I was mostly unhappy with my ammo. Ruined anything I wanted to do test-wise. I need to get a barrel that is known for not choking on steel case, otherwise this thing will be too expensive to shoot. In the end, it's expensive to shoot no matter what. We're not looking for cheap, we're looking for effective and not expensive. Were you getting FTEs or stuck cases or what? |
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Posted: 7/27/2014 11:24:45 PM EDT
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This gives you an idea of the type of day it was. There is a section of the Fostech where the trigger guard meets the reciprocating grip. In that section there is a gap that finger skin can get stuck in and slow down the RoF. Once I realized my finger was in there I moved it and you see it run like a boss again. Oddly enough it hurts like shit but I didn't notice it was happening each time it would go. I was too focused on shooting.
That little groove area is a major design flaw in my opinion. I will start using gloves from now on methinks. Not only because of the aforementioned design flaw, but because that thing gets HOT after a couple hundred rounds and bing in the sun. 
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Posted: 7/27/2014 11:25:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Also, didn't the Surefire mags have issues with the followers or something? I remember hearing about that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: snip It's ammo capacity that gets to me. I prefer to have 200 rounds instead of 60 rounds. Also, didn't the Surefire mags have issues with the followers or something? I remember hearing about that. Also, It's not like there is a 60 round cap on mags, that just happens to be what I used in the video. Surefire mags had hilarious problems where they ate shit and the followers jammed up, that seems to have been resolved. The practicality behind it is very sound, no argument from me there. I just like having a bigger disposal of rounds at my hands. Personal preferences and all that.  Surefire mags, I know there are some units in the Middle East that use surefire mags but I don't know if it is accepted as "reliable enough" or what. Might get some if the Gov has interest in it. Now if Magpul made such magazines, I'd be all over it. (I'm a bit of a Magpul whore, but if it has their name on it, I'll buy it with no regrets.)  |
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Posted: 7/27/2014 11:33:39 PM EDT
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From a practicality standpoint, if you can get the same effects on target with 60 rounds and a quick reload if needed, why have 200? Also, It's not like there is a 60 round cap on mags, that just happens to be what I used in the video. Surefire mags had hilarious problems where they ate shit and the followers jammed up, that seems to have been resolved. The practicality behind it is very sound, no argument from me there. I just like having a bigger disposal of rounds at my hands. Personal preferences and all that.
Surefire mags, I know there are some units in the Middle East that use surefire mags but I don't know if it is accepted as "reliable enough" or what. Might get some if the Gov has interest in it.
Now if Magpul made such magazines, I'd be all over it. (I'm a bit of a Magpul whore, but if it has their name on it, I'll buy it with no regrets.)
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From a practicality standpoint, if you can get the same effects on target with 60 rounds and a quick reload if needed, why have 200? Also, It's not like there is a 60 round cap on mags, that just happens to be what I used in the video. Surefire mags had hilarious problems where they ate shit and the followers jammed up, that seems to have been resolved. The practicality behind it is very sound, no argument from me there. I just like having a bigger disposal of rounds at my hands. Personal preferences and all that.
Surefire mags, I know there are some units in the Middle East that use surefire mags but I don't know if it is accepted as "reliable enough" or what. Might get some if the Gov has interest in it.
Now if Magpul made such magazines, I'd be all over it. (I'm a bit of a Magpul whore, but if it has their name on it, I'll buy it with no regrets.)
Before I actually owned one SF60 mag I would have said pretty much exactly the same thing. Magpul makes good stuff, and the two 40 rounders coupled together is a solid option for 80 rounds. I was pondering actually coupling 3 together. This gun with the Fostech actually likes weight; unlike the Slide Fire which lags out hard the more stuff you put on it. I bought a used MWG90 mag and the rounds wont even chamber due to them nosediving...BUT...MWG offered to rebuild it for me so we will see how it does soon. Do I want a beltfed? Absolutely, but they are still a little too far outside of my price range. |
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Posted: 7/27/2014 11:35:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistorySo, the slow bursts are around 660 RPM, the fast one at the end is 960 RPM |
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Posted: 7/27/2014 11:39:21 PM EDT
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In the end, it's expensive to shoot no matter what. We're not looking for cheap, we're looking for effective and not expensive. Were you getting FTEs or stuck cases or what? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have cycled through that surefire 60 you see in the videos about 15-20 times or so with no stops. I trust it. I have a couple more videos I will upload later, but I am somewhat bummed about the trip out. There were times it ran like a raped ape, and a few times it seemed to not like the SD3G/Fostech combo. I was mostly unhappy with my ammo. Ruined anything I wanted to do test-wise. I need to get a barrel that is known for not choking on steel case, otherwise this thing will be too expensive to shoot. In the end, it's expensive to shoot no matter what. We're not looking for cheap, we're looking for effective and not expensive. Were you getting FTEs or stuck cases or what? Stuck case from both Tula and Wolf. I brought my chamber brush and used it a few times—they still stuck. I am starting to think it's a problem just with the barrel and not the ammo. Sure, it's dirty, but it ran good for so long and now it is just a peanut butter and jam sandwich. I also had issues with armscor .223 brass and hard primers with multiple guns. The brown rifle you see off to Madcap's left in the video is a paragon of reliability and it even had some primer strike issues. M855 ran like a sewing machine though. |
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Posted: 7/27/2014 11:42:14 PM EDT
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Crazy. I was thinking faster, but even the human metronome gets it wrong sometimes.
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Posted: 7/27/2014 11:46:59 PM EDT
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I'm still floored by the accuracy.
Also, how fucking loud 5.56 is, to be able to echo back the way it did. |
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Posted: 7/27/2014 11:52:02 PM EDT
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Stuck case from both Tula and Wolf. I brought my chamber brush and used it a few times—they still stuck. I am starting to think it's a problem just with the barrel and not the ammo. Sure, it's dirty, but it ran good for so long and now it is just a peanut butter and jam sandwich. I also had issues with armscor .223 brass and hard primers with multiple guns. The brown rifle you see off to Madcap's left in the video is a paragon of reliability and it even had some primer strike issues. M855 ran like a sewing machine though. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have cycled through that surefire 60 you see in the videos about 15-20 times or so with no stops. I trust it. I have a couple more videos I will upload later, but I am somewhat bummed about the trip out. There were times it ran like a raped ape, and a few times it seemed to not like the SD3G/Fostech combo. I was mostly unhappy with my ammo. Ruined anything I wanted to do test-wise. I need to get a barrel that is known for not choking on steel case, otherwise this thing will be too expensive to shoot. In the end, it's expensive to shoot no matter what. We're not looking for cheap, we're looking for effective and not expensive. Were you getting FTEs or stuck cases or what? Stuck case from both Tula and Wolf. I brought my chamber brush and used it a few times—they still stuck. I am starting to think it's a problem just with the barrel and not the ammo. Sure, it's dirty, but it ran good for so long and now it is just a peanut butter and jam sandwich. I also had issues with armscor .223 brass and hard primers with multiple guns. The brown rifle you see off to Madcap's left in the video is a paragon of reliability and it even had some primer strike issues. M855 ran like a sewing machine though. It's good to know that if we need it to work, it will. I'm still hoping my adapter thing is done in the next couple weeks. |
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Posted: 7/27/2014 11:57:10 PM EDT
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It's good to know that if we need it to work, it will. I'm still hoping my adapter thing is done in the next couple weeks. I agree 100%. After talking with madcap a bit we came up with two points to consider. First, if the stock gave you problems from being dirty or whatnot it's still a perfectly capable semi auto rifle, and second, if you NEED a squad auto, the laws behind bumpstock vs MGs are probably out the window.
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Posted: 7/27/2014 11:57:54 PM EDT
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Tag. Very interested.
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Posted: 7/27/2014 11:59:12 PM EDT
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I agree 100%. After talking with madcap a bit we came up with two points to consider. First, if the stock gave you problems from being dirty or whatnot it's still a perfectly capable semi auto rifle, and second, if you NEED a squad auto, the laws behind bumpstock vs MGs are probably out the window. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's good to know that if we need it to work, it will. I'm still hoping my adapter thing is done in the next couple weeks. I agree 100%. After talking with madcap a bit we came up with two points to consider. First, if the stock gave you problems from being dirty or whatnot it's still a perfectly capable semi auto rifle, and second, if you NEED a squad auto, the laws behind bumpstock vs MGs are probably out the window. DAY 1---We're using bumpfires. DAY 2---We're laughing about having to use bumpfires.....yesterday. 
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Posted: 7/28/2014 12:12:27 AM EDT
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DAY 1---We're using bumpfires. DAY 2---We're laughing about having to use bumpfires.....yesterday. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's good to know that if we need it to work, it will. I'm still hoping my adapter thing is done in the next couple weeks. I agree 100%. After talking with madcap a bit we came up with two points to consider. First, if the stock gave you problems from being dirty or whatnot it's still a perfectly capable semi auto rifle, and second, if you NEED a squad auto, the laws behind bumpstock vs MGs are probably out the window. DAY 1---We're using bumpfires. DAY 2---We're laughing about having to use bumpfires.....yesterday. About your build: did you decide to go the DIY stock route? I am excited to see some more versions posted. 
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Posted: 7/28/2014 12:15:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: DAY 1---We're using bumpfires. DAY 2---We're laughing about having to use bumpfires.....yesterday. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's good to know that if we need it to work, it will. I'm still hoping my adapter thing is done in the next couple weeks. I agree 100%. After talking with madcap a bit we came up with two points to consider. First, if the stock gave you problems from being dirty or whatnot it's still a perfectly capable semi auto rifle, and second, if you NEED a squad auto, the laws behind bumpstock vs MGs are probably out the window. DAY 1---We're using bumpfires. DAY 2---We're laughing about having to use bumpfires.....yesterday. Plus, there's the training factor. EFFECTIVE FA fire is a force multiplier. Living in a Non-NFA state without being a SOT dealer means there's no practical way to get FA training and experience. When I got on the gun shooting bursts, it was no shit saw city fire... adjust, fire... adjust. The time I spent on a 249 was pretty much straight across the board. I have a strong feeling that the reverse is true. That time spent training on a slidefire gun would be very applicable to being able to pick up a machine gun and immediately be effective. |
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Posted: 7/28/2014 12:20:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL yup. Plus, there's the training factor. EFFECTIVE FA fire is a force multiplier. Living in a Non-NFA state without being a SOT dealer means there's no practical way to get FA training and experience. When I got on the gun shooting bursts, it was no shit saw city fire... adjust, fire... adjust. The time I spent on a 249 was pretty much straight across the board. I have a strong feeling that the reverse is true. That time spent training on a slidefire gun would be very applicable to being able to pick up a machine gun and immediately be effective. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's good to know that if we need it to work, it will. I'm still hoping my adapter thing is done in the next couple weeks. I agree 100%. After talking with madcap a bit we came up with two points to consider. First, if the stock gave you problems from being dirty or whatnot it's still a perfectly capable semi auto rifle, and second, if you NEED a squad auto, the laws behind bumpstock vs MGs are probably out the window. DAY 1---We're using bumpfires. DAY 2---We're laughing about having to use bumpfires.....yesterday. Plus, there's the training factor. EFFECTIVE FA fire is a force multiplier. Living in a Non-NFA state without being a SOT dealer means there's no practical way to get FA training and experience. When I got on the gun shooting bursts, it was no shit saw city fire... adjust, fire... adjust. The time I spent on a 249 was pretty much straight across the board. I have a strong feeling that the reverse is true. That time spent training on a slidefire gun would be very applicable to being able to pick up a machine gun and immediately be effective. Yep, which is why I nominate Madcap our Automatic Rifleman should we ever cross paths when the SHTF. |
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Posted: 7/28/2014 12:27:36 AM EDT
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About your build: did you decide to go the DIY stock route? I am excited to see some more versions posted. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's good to know that if we need it to work, it will. I'm still hoping my adapter thing is done in the next couple weeks. I agree 100%. After talking with madcap a bit we came up with two points to consider. First, if the stock gave you problems from being dirty or whatnot it's still a perfectly capable semi auto rifle, and second, if you NEED a squad auto, the laws behind bumpstock vs MGs are probably out the window. DAY 1---We're using bumpfires. DAY 2---We're laughing about having to use bumpfires.....yesterday. About your build: did you decide to go the DIY stock route? I am excited to see some more versions posted. I'm hoping to go with jm0502s adapter. If that doesn't work, we'll go to plan b. It's killing me, I'm really wanting to run some tracers through this thing just before dark. |
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Posted: 7/28/2014 12:31:49 AM EDT
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I'm hoping to go with jm0502s adapter. If that doesn't work, we'll go to plan b. It's killing me, I'm really wanting to run some tracers through this thing just before dark. I meant for the bump fire stock portion. If for some reason that adapter thing doesn't pan out and you are frustrated with the M-60 bipod, let me know. I will help you get it on the gun or take it off your hands for what you paid for it. Part of me wants twins...
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Posted: 7/28/2014 12:55:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: snip Yep, which is why I nominate Madcap our Automatic Rifleman should we ever cross paths when the SHTF. |
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Posted: 7/28/2014 2:50:59 AM EDT
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That spot looks.......familiar.......
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Posted: 7/28/2014 3:40:38 AM EDT
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That spot looks.......familiar....... Yeah?
This was right outside Wenatchee. Same place? |
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Posted: 7/28/2014 4:43:00 AM EDT
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That spot looks.......familiar....... Yeah?
This was right outside Wenatchee. Same place? Not the same spot. The dry side all looks the same!
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Posted: 7/28/2014 7:47:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Stuck case from both Tula and Wolf. I brought my chamber brush and used it a few times—they still stuck. I am starting to think it's a problem just with the barrel and not the ammo. Sure, it's dirty, but it ran good for so long and now it is just a peanut butter and jam sandwich. I also had issues with armscor .223 brass and hard primers with multiple guns. The brown rifle you see off to Madcap's left in the video is a paragon of reliability and it even had some primer strike issues. M855 ran like a sewing machine though. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I have cycled through that surefire 60 you see in the videos about 15-20 times or so with no stops. I trust it. I have a couple more videos I will upload later, but I am somewhat bummed about the trip out. There were times it ran like a raped ape, and a few times it seemed to not like the SD3G/Fostech combo. I was mostly unhappy with my ammo. Ruined anything I wanted to do test-wise. I need to get a barrel that is known for not choking on steel case, otherwise this thing will be too expensive to shoot. In the end, it's expensive to shoot no matter what. We're not looking for cheap, we're looking for effective and not expensive. Were you getting FTEs or stuck cases or what? Stuck case from both Tula and Wolf. I brought my chamber brush and used it a few times—they still stuck. I am starting to think it's a problem just with the barrel and not the ammo. Sure, it's dirty, but it ran good for so long and now it is just a peanut butter and jam sandwich. I also had issues with armscor .223 brass and hard primers with multiple guns. The brown rifle you see off to Madcap's left in the video is a paragon of reliability and it even had some primer strike issues. M855 ran like a sewing machine though. Did the cases have to be tapped out with a rod or was the extractor able to remove them after the rifle failed to cycle properly?
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Posted: 7/28/2014 8:09:51 AM EDT
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I meant for the bump fire stock portion. If for some reason that adapter thing doesn't pan out and you are frustrated with the M-60 bipod, let me know. I will help you get it on the gun or take it off your hands for what you paid for it. Part of me wants twins... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm hoping to go with jm0502s adapter. If that doesn't work, we'll go to plan b. It's killing me, I'm really wanting to run some tracers through this thing just before dark. I meant for the bump fire stock portion. If for some reason that adapter thing doesn't pan out and you are frustrated with the M-60 bipod, let me know. I will help you get it on the gun or take it off your hands for what you paid for it. Part of me wants twins... Ahhh...I'm dense. I've got a stock. I've had it a couple years, just haven't shot it. |
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Posted: 7/28/2014 10:52:06 AM EDT
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Not the same spot. The dry side all looks the same!
Cool spot nonetheless. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That spot looks.......familiar....... Yeah?
This was right outside Wenatchee. Same place? Not the same spot. The dry side all looks the same!
Cool spot nonetheless. Damn, it looks so similar. I guess I'm an "environment racist"......
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Posted: 7/28/2014 11:00:48 AM EDT
[#39]
Anyone put a sig brace on a slide fire yet?
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Posted: 7/28/2014 11:09:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, which is why I nominate Madcap our Automatic Rifleman should we ever cross paths when the SHTF. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: snip Yep, which is why I nominate Madcap our Automatic Rifleman should we ever cross paths when the SHTF. Pfft, a certain guy with a certain knowledge can make slide fires unnecessary. It just requires a little machining.  |
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Posted: 7/28/2014 11:22:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: SNIP Pfft, a certain guy with a certain knowledge can make slide fires unnecessary. It just requires a little machining. |
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Posted: 7/28/2014 11:23:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOne problem with trying to use this stock is it's likely to twist. Carbine receiver extensions have the bottom rail that keeps the stock from twisting. I could be solved with a little ingenuity, but it does need to be accounted for. |
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Posted: 7/28/2014 12:16:42 PM EDT
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This gives you an idea of the type of day it was. There is a section of the Fostech where the trigger guard meets the reciprocating grip. In that section there is a gap that finger skin can get stuck in and slow down the RoF. Once I realized my finger was in there I moved it and you see it run like a boss again. Oddly enough it hurts like shit but I didn't notice it was happening each time it would go. I was too focused on shooting. That little groove area is a major design flaw in my opinion. I will start using gloves from now on methinks. Not only because of the aforementioned design flaw, but because that thing gets HOT after a couple hundred rounds and bing in the sun. http://youtu.be/AvupDE1Dv5QStill kickin' ass! I wish we had a place in MD where we could bump fire like that. |
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Posted: 7/28/2014 12:57:59 PM EDT
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100 round drum mag is in and fits like a glove in my AR. Now to thoroughly clean and lube it and I should hopefully have footage for you all next weekend.
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Posted: 7/28/2014 1:16:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pfft, a certain guy with a certain knowledge can make slide fires unnecessary. It just requires a little machining. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: SNIP Pfft, a certain guy with a certain knowledge can make slide fires unnecessary. It just requires a little machining. |
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Posted: 7/28/2014 1:31:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Zero machining and no Federal PMITA prison + 200K fine sounds a lot more inviting. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: SNIP  |
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Posted: 7/28/2014 1:39:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well I did some machining, but it just made the stock slide. The whole prison and fine thing keeps me from making a real mg. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: SNIP |
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Posted: 7/28/2014 1:42:31 PM EDT
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You fuckheads are going to cost me MORE money
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Posted: 7/28/2014 1:44:50 PM EDT
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You fuckheads are going to cost me MORE money I think you mean "SAVE"......It's not a $20k M16. Feel better now.
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Posted: 7/28/2014 1:55:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think you mean "SAVE"......It's not a $20k M16. Feel better now. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You fuckheads are going to cost me MORE money I think you mean "SAVE"......It's not a $20k M16. Feel better now. |
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