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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:03:49 AM EDT
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Dang, I had actually come looking for him to ask him something, guess my PM won't work now...
I can nearly throw a rock and hit his house, we're across the marsh from each other and maybe a 3 mile drive even, but never met him FTF, just know his neighborhood. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:04:09 AM EDT
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Too bad, I liked him. That picture is freakin' classic.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:05:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do those warnings and locks go on your permanent record? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Wanna guess who had 20, yes twenty, warnings or locks?  I cannot believe how many times we broke down and let him back on the site. I think he beats out pubboy and 5subslr5 for most locks and warnings.Do those warnings and locks go on your permanent record? |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:10:01 AM EDT
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Wanna guess who had 20, yes twenty, warnings or locks? I cannot believe how many times we broke down and let him back on the site. I think he beats out pubboy and 5subslr5 for most locks and warnings. 20? Damn!  You know what if that's the case, why even ban him or anyone else for that reason? I know that you don't want to get labeled as a Hate site and shut down by the government, but don't you find that personally sad and galling that your cowed by the government into being the super semantical word police. Seriously if you stood up to the Gov I think people would applaud you for it. Those attitudes are not uncommon. Jesus you could switch the Site motto to "Arfcom, we Hate foreigners and hope they all die" and 99.99% of the membership won't bat an eye. Why fight so hard for stupid political correctness. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:12:20 AM EDT
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So just to be clear you think that wishing death on a group of people you dislike is not a legitimate CoC violation? To be clear, I think it's douchebag behavior to cherry pick one sentence out of 4 to use against someone (even douchebag behavior without the intent of doing so is douchebag behavior). Especially considering the context of the entire post, which I would bet money most people in that thread didn't do. I wouldn't be surprised if most of the people that clicked 'report', did so after the first sentence and without reading the whole thing. Reading comprehension isn't exactly a GD strength. Now, having said that, Monroe broke the rules (IMO it's arguable that he didn't in this case, but that's my opinion), he had been warned many times. He's taking his licks. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:14:12 AM EDT
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If you need it IM me. 
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I suspected the hardheaded SOB went and got himself in trouble again. I'll have to dig up his number and give him a call. If you need it IM me.
Is there anyone on this forum he doesnt talk to on the phone? LOL thats for sure.. and worse than a woman when he gets on there..
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:17:02 AM EDT
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Probably wishing death, but I hear some people are sensitive about their goats around here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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While I hate them, and wish death upon them personally.... I do believe I would find myself aligned with the goat rapers if such a thing were to happen here. Freedom of religion and such. Government persecuting a religion never ends well. Just so I don't make the same mistakes, did he get banned for calling them goat rapers or wishing they all die, or believing in freedom of religion?  Probably wishing death, but I hear some people are sensitive about their goats around here. 
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:17:40 AM EDT
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To be clear, I think it's douchebag behavior to cherry pick one sentence out of 4 to use against someone (even douchebag behavior without the intent of doing so is douchebag behavior). Especially considering the context of the entire post, which I would bet money most people in that thread didn't do. I wouldn't be surprised if most of the people that clicked 'report', did so after the first sentence and without reading the whole thing. Reading comprehension isn't exactly a GD strength. Now, having said that, Monroe broke the rules (IMO it's arguable that he didn't in this case, but that's my opinion), he had been warned many times. He's taking his licks. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So just to be clear you think that wishing death on a group of people you dislike is not a legitimate CoC violation? To be clear, I think it's douchebag behavior to cherry pick one sentence out of 4 to use against someone (even douchebag behavior without the intent of doing so is douchebag behavior). Especially considering the context of the entire post, which I would bet money most people in that thread didn't do. I wouldn't be surprised if most of the people that clicked 'report', did so after the first sentence and without reading the whole thing. Reading comprehension isn't exactly a GD strength. Now, having said that, Monroe broke the rules (IMO it's arguable that he didn't in this case, but that's my opinion), he had been warned many times. He's taking his licks. The whole quote was posted earlier, no trying to hide the troof from me. Thanks for calling me a douchebag, goes to show your fine comprehension of the rules here. 
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:18:12 AM EDT
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How many warnings add up to a lock? My guess is it's a totality of circumstances thing. Good because I have a lot of warnings I think I have one warning and one time out 
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:19:07 AM EDT
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LOL thats for sure.. and worse than a woman when he gets on there.. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I suspected the hardheaded SOB went and got himself in trouble again. I'll have to dig up his number and give him a call. If you need it IM me.
Is there anyone on this forum he doesnt talk to on the phone? LOL thats for sure.. and worse than a woman when he gets on there.. I may or may not have been on the phone with him for 2 hours one night. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:19:42 AM EDT
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I've never had any warnings. I fully expected one once, but it never came 
Probably because while I post a lot, I rarely get fully involved in the heated conversations. I get involved, but when I find myself writing and deleting 4 or 5 times before I can post, I bail
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:20:59 AM EDT
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I've never had any warnings. I fully expected one once, but it never came
Probably because while I post a lot, I rarely get fully involved in the heated conversations. I get involved, but when I find myself writing and deleting 4 or 5 times before I can post, I bail That just means your a quitter! |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:21:18 AM EDT
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You know what if that's the case, why even ban him or anyone else for that reason? I know that you don't want to get labeled as a Hate site and shut down by the government, but don't you find that personally sad and galling that your cowed by the government into being the super semantical word police. Seriously if you stood up to the Gov I think people would applaud you for it. Those attitudes are not uncommon. Jesus you could switch the Site motto to "Arfcom, we Hate foreigners and hope they all die" and 99.99% of the membership won't bat an eye. Why fight so hard for stupid political correctness. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wanna guess who had 20, yes twenty, warnings or locks? I cannot believe how many times we broke down and let him back on the site. I think he beats out pubboy and 5subslr5 for most locks and warnings. 20? Damn! You know what if that's the case, why even ban him or anyone else for that reason? I know that you don't want to get labeled as a Hate site and shut down by the government, but don't you find that personally sad and galling that your cowed by the government into being the super semantical word police. Seriously if you stood up to the Gov I think people would applaud you for it. Those attitudes are not uncommon. Jesus you could switch the Site motto to "Arfcom, we Hate foreigners and hope they all die" and 99.99% of the membership won't bat an eye. Why fight so hard for stupid political correctness. Nobody is "fighting hard for political correctness" The Avilas do not want religion bashing OF ANY KIND on ar15.com. Their house, their rules. There's no "special" protection of Islam. Most people are generally able to control themselves when it comes to their personal dislike of Catholics, or Jews or Baptists, or whatever - but some seem simply UNABLE to control themselves when it comes to Muslims. . The rules are clear, and if people chose to not follow them, the consequences are theirs to own.
Even though we actually DO allow more shit to be talked about Islam than other religions, and tend to just issue warnings for things that would you get banned if you said it about other religions, the standard still has to be "how would this post sound if it was about Jews or Mormons?" If someone posted that they hated Jews and wanted them all dead, should we let that slide? If someone posted that they wished someone would just nuke the Vatican and kill all the Catholics, should it be allowed? According to the Avilas, the answer is no. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:22:06 AM EDT
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The whole quote was posted earlier, no trying to hide the troof from me. Thanks for calling me a douchebag, goes to show your fine comprehension of the rules here.
If I post "Christians are a bunch of filthy cocksucking child molesters, I want to see them all dead." there really is no amount of context or following on statements about how I don't want the .gov to kill them that make that ok. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So just to be clear you think that wishing death on a group of people you dislike is not a legitimate CoC violation? To be clear, I think it's douchebag behavior to cherry pick one sentence out of 4 to use against someone (even douchebag behavior without the intent of doing so is douchebag behavior). Especially considering the context of the entire post, which I would bet money most people in that thread didn't do. I wouldn't be surprised if most of the people that clicked 'report', did so after the first sentence and without reading the whole thing. Reading comprehension isn't exactly a GD strength. Now, having said that, Monroe broke the rules (IMO it's arguable that he didn't in this case, but that's my opinion), he had been warned many times. He's taking his licks. The whole quote was posted earlier, no trying to hide the troof from me. Thanks for calling me a douchebag, goes to show your fine comprehension of the rules here.
If I post "Christians are a bunch of filthy cocksucking child molesters, I want to see them all dead." there really is no amount of context or following on statements about how I don't want the .gov to kill them that make that ok. I criticized what you DID, not you. I even added the caveat that it may not have been done with a ill will, but still looked like douchebag behavior. And thank you so much for proving my point about reading comprehension.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:23:00 AM EDT
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Well the Catholics didn't.....
oh nevermind.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:23:05 AM EDT
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Nobody is "fighting hard for political correctness" The Avilas do not want religion bashing OF ANY KIND on ar15.com. Their house, their rules. There's no "special" protection of Islam. Most people are generally able to control themselves when it comes to their personal dislike of Catholics, or Jews or Baptists, or whatever - but some seem simply UNABLE to control themselves when it comes to Islam. . The rules are clear, and if people chose to not follow them, the consequences are theirs to own.
Even though we actually DO allow more shit to be talked about Islam than other religions, and tend to just issue warnings for things that would you get banned if you said it about other religions, the standard still has to be "how would this post sound if it was about Jews or Mormons?" If someone posted that they hated Jews and wanted them all dead, should we let that slide? If someone posted that they wished someone would just nuke the Vatican and kill all the Catholics, should it be allowed? According to the Avilas, the answer is no. Is WBC still open game? |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:25:40 AM EDT
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If I ever say something stupid and get banned is anyone going to start a thread about me? I'm not sure I could sleep at night if you guys didn't They don't lament the passing of ban-staters.
well shit No threads for ban-staters, but if it will make you feel better I will put a sticky note on my monitor for a moment of silence
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:27:41 AM EDT
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That's pretty weak. I agree... he promised to behave. I guess his word isn't worth much. I think you've made the mistake of not realizing what a Batt Boy's defintiton of "behave" is.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:28:55 AM EDT
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Nobody is "fighting hard for political correctness" The Avilas do not want religion bashing OF ANY KIND on ar15.com. Their house, their rules. There's no "special" protection of Islam. Most people are generally able to control themselves when it comes to their personal dislike of Catholics, or Jews or Baptists, or whatever - but some seem simply UNABLE to control themselves when it comes to Islam. . The rules are clear, and if people chose to not follow them, the consequences are theirs to own.
Even though we actually DO allow more shit to be talked about Islam than other religions, and tend to just issue warnings for things that would you get banned if you said it about other religions, the standard still has to be "how would this post sound if it was about Jews or Mormons?" If someone posted that they hated Jews and wanted them all dead, should we let that slide? If someone posted that they wished someone would just nuke the Vatican and kill all the Catholics, should it be allowed? According to the Avilas, the answer is no. Is WBC still open game? Sure, in the exact same way extremist/jihadist/terrorist muslims are open game. Saying "man, I wish all those WBC assholes would get hit by a semi carrying acid" is fine. Saying "all Christans are bad and should all die" is a problem and will catch you a warning. Saying "I wish all those Wahhabist extremist Muslims that want to attack the U.S. would die of goat syphilis" is fine. Saying "all Muslims are bad and should die" is a problem and will result in the exact same warning as it was said about Christians or Jews or whatever. Nothing is wrong with wishing death upon terrorists or extremists. (of any stripe). It becomes a problem when the brush start to encompass entire religions or huge groups of people, whole populations, etc. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:29:16 AM EDT
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If you need it IM me.
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I suspected the hardheaded SOB went and got himself in trouble again. I'll have to dig up his number and give him a call. If you need it IM me.
Is there anyone on this forum he doesnt talk to on the phone? Me. But then again, I'm deaf, lol. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:30:25 AM EDT
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I criticized what you DID, not you. I even added the caveat that it may not have been done with a ill will, but still looked like douchebag behavior. And thank you so much for proving my point about reading comprehension. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So just to be clear you think that wishing death on a group of people you dislike is not a legitimate CoC violation? To be clear, I think it's douchebag behavior to cherry pick one sentence out of 4 to use against someone (even douchebag behavior without the intent of doing so is douchebag behavior). Especially considering the context of the entire post, which I would bet money most people in that thread didn't do. I wouldn't be surprised if most of the people that clicked 'report', did so after the first sentence and without reading the whole thing. Reading comprehension isn't exactly a GD strength. Now, having said that, Monroe broke the rules (IMO it's arguable that he didn't in this case, but that's my opinion), he had been warned many times. He's taking his licks. The whole quote was posted earlier, no trying to hide the troof from me. Thanks for calling me a douchebag, goes to show your fine comprehension of the rules here.
If I post "Christians are a bunch of filthy cocksucking child molesters, I want to see them all dead." there really is no amount of context or following on statements about how I don't want the .gov to kill them that make that ok. I criticized what you DID, not you. I even added the caveat that it may not have been done with a ill will, but still looked like douchebag behavior. And thank you so much for proving my point about reading comprehension. It's not an issue of reading comprehension, it's an issue of you trying to be cute and talk shit in such a way as to avoid a timeout. It's transparently obvious, and kind of silly. But coming from the "There's arguably nothing against the CoC to call a religious group goat rapers and wish for their death" guy, that's probably to be expected. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:30:42 AM EDT
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<snip> Is WBC still open game? I had a funny quote about lawyers and ban-flipper, but naw, it's not worth it. 
It's often worth remembering, "Lord, please make my words sweet and tender, for tomorrow, I may have to eat them."
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:31:08 AM EDT
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Sure, in the exact same way extremist/jihadist/terrorist muslims are open game. Saying "man, I wish all those WBC assholes would get hit by a semi carrying acid" is fine. Saying "all Christans are bad and should all die" is a problem and will catch you a warning. Saying "I wish all those Wahhabist extremist Muslims that want to attack the U.S. would die of goat syphilis" is fine. Saying "all Muslims are bad and should die" is a problem and will result in the exact same warning as it was said about Christians or Jews or whatever. Nothing is wrong with wishing death upon terrorists or extremists. (of any stripe). It becomes a problem when the brush start to encompass entire religions or huge groups of people, whole populations, etc. What if you wish rape upon all geese? Seriously though I know it was your army buddy that wished rape upon all geese.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:32:59 AM EDT
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I've never had any warnings. I fully expected one once, but it never came
Probably because while I post a lot, I rarely get fully involved in the heated conversations. I get involved, but when I find myself writing and deleting 4 or 5 times before I can post, I bail That just means your a quitter! If it keeps me from typing and posting stupid shit, I'll take it 
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:34:26 AM EDT
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Ok, this kind of shit pisses me off.
While I am not a RangerMonroe cheer leader, I am not his enemy either. This said, he was a great contributing member. A message to Admins, Site Staff, The Avilas, people, I love ya for this place, but WTF? This is not the Arfcom of old. I get it, you are policing as "best as you can" to keep pandemonium down to a minimum, but some shit has become way too PC here. Example, ROPers, protect them, don't protect them, it doesn't matter, they ARE our enemy, no ifs, no butts, simple fact, they really don't care if you protect them. You can't make everyone happy. I have seen time and time again where you TRY to make everyone happy, ya know what? It's appreciated, it really is. Ed Sr. I've enjoyed our talks, you really want good things, I see that. BUT....... Actions like this are OVERKILL. Rm spoke is mind, while it is YOUR board, don't you want members to speak their minds? (I know, baring threats) Comments against a religion, sexual preference, races, etc, while some or many find it offensive, so what? I've learned more about the world in which I live in through heated discussions in direct opposition of someone else. Protected classes of people only make things uglier. Banning RM for what he said, in truth, I don't get it. Yes, things piss me off here too, I don;t have a "BAN" button to make myself feel better when someone chooses a "narrower mindset" and verbalizes it. In fact, I am one of those most would consider a narrow man. (No secret here) You've got a wide range of personalities here, these personalities go in many directions from "mainstream". HOw is it that some of you think you can "moderate" this with a modicum of success? I can't tell you what to do, however, this said, I would be very favorable with less politically correct sentiment that leads to great members here getting the boot over opinions. baring an actual threat (or personal attack), can a little more "freedom of speech" be granted in GD? (Again, yes, I know, this is your board, your rules, FOS does not apply here) As to RM, someone unlock that guy already! Sweet Jesus.......... |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:35:18 AM EDT
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Wanna guess who had 20, yes twenty, warnings or locks? I cannot believe how many times we broke down and let him back on the site. I think he beats out pubboy and 5subslr5 for most locks and warnings.Do those warnings and locks go on your permanent record? I am sooooo screwed |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:40:57 AM EDT
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It's not an issue of reading comprehension, it's an issue of you trying to be cute and talk shit in such a way as to avoid a timeout. It's transparently obvious, and kind of silly. But coming from the "There's arguably nothing against the CoC to call a religious group goat rapers and wish for their death" guy, that's probably to be expected. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So just to be clear you think that wishing death on a group of people you dislike is not a legitimate CoC violation? To be clear, I think it's douchebag behavior to cherry pick one sentence out of 4 to use against someone (even douchebag behavior without the intent of doing so is douchebag behavior). Especially considering the context of the entire post, which I would bet money most people in that thread didn't do. I wouldn't be surprised if most of the people that clicked 'report', did so after the first sentence and without reading the whole thing. Reading comprehension isn't exactly a GD strength. Now, having said that, Monroe broke the rules (IMO it's arguable that he didn't in this case, but that's my opinion), he had been warned many times. He's taking his licks. The whole quote was posted earlier, no trying to hide the troof from me. Thanks for calling me a douchebag, goes to show your fine comprehension of the rules here.
If I post "Christians are a bunch of filthy cocksucking child molesters, I want to see them all dead." there really is no amount of context or following on statements about how I don't want the .gov to kill them that make that ok. I criticized what you DID, not you. I even added the caveat that it may not have been done with a ill will, but still looked like douchebag behavior. And thank you so much for proving my point about reading comprehension. It's not an issue of reading comprehension, it's an issue of you trying to be cute and talk shit in such a way as to avoid a timeout. It's transparently obvious, and kind of silly. But coming from the "There's arguably nothing against the CoC to call a religious group goat rapers and wish for their death" guy, that's probably to be expected. Please. That statement about goat rapers isn't even on the top 100 worst things posted on Arfcom this month. And most if not all of the posters are still here. And if you have an issue with something I posted, please feel free to click on 'report' or file 13 that with someone that gives a rats ass. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:42:35 AM EDT
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Ok, this kind of shit pisses me off. While I am not a RangerMonroe cheer leader, I am not his enemy either. This said, he was a great contributing member. A message to Admins, Site Staff, The Avilas, people, I love ya for this place, but WTF? This is not the Arfcom of old. I get it, you are policing as "best as you can" to keep pandemonium down to a minimum, but some shit has become way too PC here. Example, ROPers, protect them, don't protect them, it doesn't matter, they ARE our enemy, no ifs, no butts, simple fact, they really don't care if you protect them. You can't make everyone happy. I have seen time and time again where you TRY to make everyone happy, ya know what? It's appreciated, it really is. Ed Sr. I've enjoyed our talks, you really want good things, I see that. BUT....... Actions like this are OVERKILL. Rm spoke is mind, while it is YOUR board, don't you want members to speak their minds? (I know, baring threats) Comments against a religion, sexual preference, races, etc, while some or many find it offensive, so what? I've learned more about the world in which I live in through heated discussions in direct opposition of someone else. Protected classes of people only make things uglier. Banning RM for what he said, in truth, I don't get it. Yes, things piss me off here too, I don;t have a "BAN" button to make myself feel better when someone chooses a "narrower mindset" and verbalizes it. In fact, I am one of those most would consider a narrow man. (No secret here) You've got a wide range of personalities here, these personalities go in many directions from "mainstream". HOw is it that some of you think you can "moderate" this with a modicum of success? I can't tell you what to do, however, this said, I would be very favorable with less politically correct sentiment that leads to great members here getting the boot over opinions. baring an actual threat (or personal attack), can a little more "freedom of speech" be granted in GD? (Again, yes, I know, this is your board, your rules, FOS does not apply here) As to RM, someone unlock that guy already! Sweet Jesus.......... So are you saying we should have no rules? Or ar you saying that we should have rules, but some people (if they are nice and/or popular) shouldn't have to follow them? If you are not saying either of those things, then perhaps you can tell us what the hell are we supposed to do with someone who REFUSES to follow the rules? |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:44:50 AM EDT
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Please. That statement about goat rapers isn't even on the top 100 worst things posted on Arfcom this month. And most if not all of the posters are still here. And if you have an issue with something I posted, please feel free to click on 'report' or file 13 that with someone that gives a rats ass. If most if not all of those posters got caught doing it 20 times, they probably wouldn't be here either. I'm not a mod, and I don't really care if some random dude on the internet calls me a douchebag. But I will point it out. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:45:49 AM EDT
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I wouldn't have guessed that he'd been locked that many times. Always seemed reasonable to me. yep, one of the good guys. I am becoming disillusioned. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:45:54 AM EDT
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What's a ROP?
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:46:05 AM EDT
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Cute Kitteh!
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:46:57 AM EDT
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I suspected the hardheaded SOB went and got himself in trouble again. I'll have to dig up his number and give him a call. If you need it IM me.
Is there anyone on this forum he doesnt talk to on the phone? I've never talked to him on the phone, but I sent him two Tapco AK mags I didn't want and he insisted on sending me an FAL mag in return. Nice guy. 
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:47:54 AM EDT
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Holy shit, I just looked at his record.
He should have been flushed long, long ago, no matter how "nice" and apologetic he might act on the phone afterwards. I have no fucking idea why he's been allowed to remain on the site as long as he was. 
some of the things he has posted are just completely fucked up. I am 100% certain that those of you who are staunchly defending him as a "good guy" would agree that he should be banned if you saw some of the reprehensible shit he has pulled.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:47:57 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:49:46 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:50:09 AM EDT
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Holy shit, I just looked at his record.
He should have been banned long, long ago. I have no fucking idea why he's been allowed to remain on the sit as long as he was.
Jesus fucking Christ, some of the things he has posted are just completely fucked up. I am 100% certain that those of you who are staunchly defending him as a "good guy" would agree that he should be banned if you saw some of the reprehensible shit he has pulled. Well to be honest, the "final straw" that I quoted was nothing, so some will find it hard to believe that they really were "reprehensible". |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:51:59 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:52:34 AM EDT
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Nobody is "fighting hard for political correctness" The Avilas do not want religion bashing OF ANY KIND on ar15.com. Their house, their rules. There's no "special" protection of Islam. Most people are generally able to control themselves when it comes to their personal dislike of Catholics, or Jews or Baptists, or whatever - but some seem simply UNABLE to control themselves when it comes to Muslims. . The rules are clear, and if people chose to not follow them, the consequences are theirs to own.
Even though we actually DO allow more shit to be talked about Islam than other religions, and tend to just issue warnings for things that would you get banned if you said it about other religions, the standard still has to be "how would this post sound if it was about Jews or Mormons?" If someone posted that they hated Jews and wanted them all dead, should we let that slide? If someone posted that they wished someone would just nuke the Vatican and kill all the Catholics, should it be allowed? According to the Avilas, the answer is no. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wanna guess who had 20, yes twenty, warnings or locks? I cannot believe how many times we broke down and let him back on the site. I think he beats out pubboy and 5subslr5 for most locks and warnings. 20? Damn! You know what if that's the case, why even ban him or anyone else for that reason? I know that you don't want to get labeled as a Hate site and shut down by the government, but don't you find that personally sad and galling that your cowed by the government into being the super semantical word police. Seriously if you stood up to the Gov I think people would applaud you for it. Those attitudes are not uncommon. Jesus you could switch the Site motto to "Arfcom, we Hate foreigners and hope they all die" and 99.99% of the membership won't bat an eye. Why fight so hard for stupid political correctness. Nobody is "fighting hard for political correctness" The Avilas do not want religion bashing OF ANY KIND on ar15.com. Their house, their rules. There's no "special" protection of Islam. Most people are generally able to control themselves when it comes to their personal dislike of Catholics, or Jews or Baptists, or whatever - but some seem simply UNABLE to control themselves when it comes to Muslims. . The rules are clear, and if people chose to not follow them, the consequences are theirs to own.
Even though we actually DO allow more shit to be talked about Islam than other religions, and tend to just issue warnings for things that would you get banned if you said it about other religions, the standard still has to be "how would this post sound if it was about Jews or Mormons?" If someone posted that they hated Jews and wanted them all dead, should we let that slide? If someone posted that they wished someone would just nuke the Vatican and kill all the Catholics, should it be allowed? According to the Avilas, the answer is no. Bullshit! Us Pastafarian's are always ridiculed and wished for death and the mods NEVER do anything about it but delete our threads.. 
I guess some animals are more equal.. And they always side with the Alfraidians "and their whole Behold the Power of Cheese!" crap.. Everyone thats any one knows the Marinariaians are the proper and rightist sect to belong to.. rAmen my red noodle brothers.. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:53:09 AM EDT
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If most if not all of those posters got caught doing it 20 times, they probably wouldn't be here either. I'm not a mod, and I don't really care if some random dude on the internet calls me a douchebag. But I will point it out. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Please. That statement about goat rapers isn't even on the top 100 worst things posted on Arfcom this month. And most if not all of the posters are still here. And if you have an issue with something I posted, please feel free to click on 'report' or file 13 that with someone that gives a rats ass. If most if not all of those posters got caught doing it 20 times, they probably wouldn't be here either. I'm not a mod, and I don't really care if some random dude on the internet calls me a douchebag. But I will point it out. I didn't call you a douchebag. I said you, ONCE, exhibited douchebag behavior. And for someone that doesn't care, you seem unable to let it go. But it's ok, it's not the end of the world. Do you need a hug? |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:54:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You know what if that's the case, why even ban him or anyone else for that reason? I know that you don't want to get labeled as a Hate site and shut down by the government, but don't you find that personally sad and galling that your cowed by the government into being the super semantical word police. Seriously if you stood up to the Gov I think people would applaud you for it. Those attitudes are not uncommon. Jesus you could switch the Site motto to "Arfcom, we Hate foreigners and hope they all die" and 99.99% of the membership won't bat an eye. Why fight so hard for stupid political correctness. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Wanna guess who had 20, yes twenty, warnings or locks? I cannot believe how many times we broke down and let him back on the site. I think he beats out pubboy and 5subslr5 for most locks and warnings. 20? Damn! You know what if that's the case, why even ban him or anyone else for that reason? I know that you don't want to get labeled as a Hate site and shut down by the government, but don't you find that personally sad and galling that your cowed by the government into being the super semantical word police. Seriously if you stood up to the Gov I think people would applaud you for it. Those attitudes are not uncommon. Jesus you could switch the Site motto to "Arfcom, we Hate foreigners and hope they all die" and 99.99% of the membership won't bat an eye. Why fight so hard for stupid political correctness. Not really what we want on the site even if you think it's "just refusing to be PC"
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:54:32 AM EDT
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Ok, this kind of shit pisses me off. While I am not a RangerMonroe cheer leader, I am not his enemy either. This said, he was a great contributing member. snip As to RM, someone unlock that guy already! Sweet Jesus.......... I personally lobbied for his return which is something I don't do. He racked up three more warnings after he returned. He had enough previously to know what is allowed and what is not allowed. |
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Wanna guess who had 20, yes twenty, warnings or locks? I cannot believe how many times we broke down and let him back on the site. I think he beats out pubboy and 5subslr5 for most locks and warnings.So you're saying I have plenty of slack left? 
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:55:59 AM EDT
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Well to be honest, the "final straw" that I quoted was nothing, so some will find it hard to believe that they really were "reprehensible". Nothing? "Christians are a bunch of child molesters and i want them all to die." Is that nothing? I have negative opinions about Islam, but there's a right and a wrong way to express that. Just like it's fine to disagree with someone without calling them an asshole and wishing death on them. If you want an unmoderated experience 4chan and plenty of other places are available. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:56:04 AM EDT
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Ok, this kind of shit pisses me off. While I am not a RangerMonroe cheer leader, I am not his enemy either. This said, he was a great contributing member. snip As to RM, someone unlock that guy already! Sweet Jesus.......... I personally lobbied for his return which is something I don't do. He racked up three more warnings after he returned. He had enough previously to know what is allowed and what is not allowed. Yup... a kick in the teeth to people who vouched for him. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:56:37 AM EDT
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Dave A was let back. What's the statute or limitations? Can we sponsor Monroe into a similar program?
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:57:52 AM EDT
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Dave A was let back. What's the statute or limitations? Can we sponsor Monroe into a similar program? Just let Monroe in Team and the NVG forum
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:58:06 AM EDT
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I didn't call you a douchebag. I said you, ONCE, exhibited douchebag behavior. And for someone that doesn't care, you seem unable to let it go. But it's ok, it's not the end of the world. Do you need a hug? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Please. That statement about goat rapers isn't even on the top 100 worst things posted on Arfcom this month. And most if not all of the posters are still here. And if you have an issue with something I posted, please feel free to click on 'report' or file 13 that with someone that gives a rats ass. If most if not all of those posters got caught doing it 20 times, they probably wouldn't be here either. I'm not a mod, and I don't really care if some random dude on the internet calls me a douchebag. But I will point it out. I didn't call you a douchebag. I said you, ONCE, exhibited douchebag behavior. And for someone that doesn't care, you seem unable to let it go. But it's ok, it's not the end of the world. Do you need a hug? It's an internet forum, arguing is what it's here for. Doesn't mean I care about it. And that's transparent sophistry and you know it (or should). |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:59:09 AM EDT
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but some seem simply UNABLE to control themselves when it comes to Muslims. Almost 3,000 dead in my hometown in less than an hour will do that to people... ETA: We don't have the stick-poking icon?
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:59:30 AM EDT
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The ONLY timeout I've ever gotten was from Aimless in a ROP thread. Sooooo, avoiding them is a good idea of you cannot be tactful. Same. It was quite lengthy... 
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