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Anderson Kiger 9c WHERE TO PURCHASE KIGER 9C gun.deals Search Engine You can now search for the lowest price on the Anderson Kiger 9C using gun.deals, gun.deals: Anderson Kiger 9C *Aim Surplus ANDERSON KIGER-9C 9MM HANDGUN- BLACKBattleHawk Armory ANDERSON KIGER 9C HGA 9MM 3.91 IN BBL 1/15RD MAGPUL MAGGun Zone Deals Anderson Manufacturing Kiger - 9c 3.91" BBL 15+1 9mmLocked Loaded ANDERSON KIGER 9C HGA 9MM 3.91 IN BBL 1/15RD MAGPUL MAGTombstone Tactical ANDERSON KIGER 9C HGA 9MM 3.91 IN BBL 1/15RD MAGPUL MAG FEATURES
KIGER 9C FRAME The Kiger 9C frame is seemingly identical to the SCT Manufacturing SCT 19 frame,SCT Manufacturing SCT 19 FrameWe assume SCT Manufacturing is manufacturing the Kiger 9C frame for Anderson Manufacturing. The Kiger 9C frame is very similar to a Strike Industries Strike 80 C frame (albeit serialized), Strike Industries Strike 80 C Frame With respect to the similarity between the SCT 19 and Strike 80 C frames, owner/CEO of AIM Surplus, Bryan Flannagan, said, they are not related companies, but they do look alike after seeing a side by side. KIGER 9C REVIEWS KYGUNCO Anderson Kiger 9C Range Review ClassicFirearms The New Anderson Kiger 9C LWRoad ?? NEW for 2022?? Kiger 9c 9mm | 21st Century GLOCK for 20th Century Value? | Anderson Manufacturing Vance Outdoors NEW - KIGER 9c from Anderson Manufacturing | 9mm, Semi-Auto, Striker-Fired, 15+1 Rounds True Shot Gun Club New Pony in Town? Anderson Kiger 9C Review sootch00 New Anderson Mfg Kiger 9C Gun Review: Not an AR-15? AimSurplus ANDERSON KIGER-9c GunBroker.com Article: New Handgun: Anderson Kiger 9C, Their First-Ever Pistol KIGER 9C PRICE At $379, the price of the Kiger 9C seems rather high for a budget (?) G19 gen3 clone "base model". The Kiger 9C appears to leverage a $42 SCT Manufacturing SCT 19 frame. We can value the lower parts kit at $35 and a Magpul PMAG 15-round GL9 magazine at $10. So the question becomes whether the Kiger 9C upper slide assembly (with barrel and recoil spring assembly) is worth $292. Compact DaggerTM The Palmetto State Armory (PSA) Compact DaggerTM base model sells for $299.99, PSA DAGGER COMPACT 9MM PISTOL WITH EXTREME CARRY CUTS, FLAT DARK EARTH Anderson Manufacturing needs to price the Kiger 9C base model below $300. PSA complete Compact DaggerTM slides (with all internal parts and steel white three-dot sights) start at under $120. PSA DAGGER COMPLETE SLIDE ASSEMBLY WITH EXTREME CARRY CUT, FDE PSA complete Compact DaggerTM upper slide assemblies (including a non-threaded barrel and modular stainless steel recoil spring assembly) start at under $180, PSA DAGGER COMPLETE SLIDE ASSEMBLY WITH NON-THREADED BARREL, EXTREME CARRY CUT, FDE If Anderson Manufacturing can offer a complete Kiger 9C slide (with internal parts and steel sights) for under $120, community members may purchase the Kiger 9C slide to pair with Compact DaggerTM and other aftermarket frames. PSA offers complete Compact DaggerTM frames (with all internal parts and an S&W-style flat-faced trigger) for under $100, PSA DAGGER COMPACT COMPLETE POLYMER FRAME, FLAT DARK EARTH If Anderson Manufacturing can offer a complete Kiger 9C frame (with internal parts and trigger) for under $100, community members (seeking improved holster compatibility, different styling / ergonomics) may purchase the Kiger 9C frame to pair with Compact DaggerTM and other aftermarket upper slide assemblies. COLORED FRAMES In addition to the black frame, the PSA Compact DaggerTM is offered with flat dark earth, gray, and sniper green colored frames, MRDS CUTS With respect to the possibility of Kiger 9C MRDS-cut slides, Bryan Flannagan said, yes its coming Compact DaggerTM The PSA Compact DaggerTM slides are offered with a Trijicon "RMR Cut" and a "Doctor [sic] Cut" (Vortex Venom footprint). Both optic cuts are offered rear iron sight forward and back. The Compact DaggerTM MRDS cut is only 0.103" deep. You won't find another RMR cut in the industry less than 0.125" deep. Many RMR cuts are considerably deeper. With the "RMR Cut", there is considerable slop in front of and behind a Trijicon RMR. The Kiger 9C slide MRDS cuts can improve in this area. Note: "Doctor Cut" refers to the Docter/Noblex mounting standard. The gentleman's name was "Bernhard Docter", not "Doctor". A mounting standard is defined only in terms of mounting screw holes and index/recoil sockets. A mounting standard should not be confused with a footprint. Refer to the "Terminology" section of, Optics Info Article: Footprints/Mounting Standards on Red Dot SightsThe Compact DaggerTM slide "Doctor [sic] Cut" (Vortex Venom footprint) is incompatible with many MRDS's compatible with the Docter/Noblex mounting standard. The Compact DaggerTM slide must be modified in order to accept certain MRDS's including, but not limited to MRDS's from ADE Advanced Optics, Hex, Primary Arms, and Sightmark, Compact DaggerTM Incompatible "Doctor" MRDS'sWith a simple modification to the Vortex Venom footprint, a slide will be compatible with these MRDS's, Redesign Compact DaggerTM "Doctor Cut"?On January 19, 2022, PSA said the Compact DaggerTM slide modular optic system would be available in mid-May. As of this writing, the Compact DaggerTM slide modular optic system still hasn't dropped. In addition to the Trijicon RMR footprint and a modified Vortex Venom footprint, Anderson Manufacturing should consider offering slides with the OEM Glock (double-stack) MOS footprint. Advantage Arms incorporates OEM Glock MOS with their MRDS-ready .22 LR conversion kits. There are high-quality aftermarket adapter plates already available for OEM Glock MOS. MAGWELLS According to the product description, the SCT 19 frame is compatible with a Magpul magwell and SCT Manufacturing will be offering a magwell for the SCT 19 frame in the future. Note: The notion of what constitutes a magwell "fit" can be subjective. The owner/CEO of AIM Surplus, Bryan Flannagan, has confirmed that while the Magpul MAG940 magwell does in fact fit the SCT 19 frame, "you can see the mag cutouts at some angles", Magpul GL Enhanced Magazine Well for Glock 19 gen3Bryan and several DaggerTM community members have confirmed that the Strike Industries magwell for the Strike 80 C frame, Strike Industries Strike 80 C Magwellcan be made to "fit" the SCT 19 frame. One community member said, the "strike80 magwell fits" and "Almost as if it were made for it". Another community member said, the fit was "loose wonky and felt like garbage". Yet another community member reported, "no issues. It went in almost like it was made for it. Feels good in hand". Bryan said, "I have seen the SCT magwell and I would wait for it, and it will be priced cheaper than the others also." SCT Manufacturing VP of Sales and Manufacturing, John Gavic, is saying we will see the SCT 19 magwell "by the end of first qtr next year!" WTF? Compact DaggerTM As of this writing, the SLR Rifleworks PSA Dagger magwell is the only commercially-available magwell compatible with the Compact DaggerTM frame, SLR Rifleworks PSA Dagger MagwellThis black anodized magwell is beautifully designed and machined from 7075 billet aluminum. PARTS COMPATIBILITY The Kiger 9C is assumed to be compatible with OEM Glock and aftermarket parts intended for an OEM Glock G19 gen3. Compact DaggerTM The Compact DaggerTM locking block is proprietary. It's part of a hybrid locking block / front rail assembly. Unlike the Kiger 9C frame, the Compact DaggerTM front and rear rails are not overmolded. All of the Compact DaggerTM pins are proprietary. PSA redesigned the original Compact DaggerTM trigger pin making the grooves wider and deeper in an attempt to fix the walking trigger pin issue. The Compact DaggerTM trigger housing and locking block pins are 1/8" roll pins and are not compatible with OEM Glock and aftermarket trigger housing and locking block pins intended for an OEM Glock G19 gen3. All of the Compact DaggerTM pins can be difficult to remove. The Compact DaggerTM firing pin is proprietary. The tip of the firing pin that extends through the breech face is wider than OEM Glock and aftermarket firing pins intended for an OEM Glock G19 gen3. A Compact DaggerTM firing pin is not compatible with OEM Glock and aftermarket G19 gen3 slides. HOLSTER COMPATIBILITY Community members are starting to receive their SCT 19 frames. Initial reports suggest the SCT 19 frame is compatible with at least some G19 holsters, both with and without a weaponlight. We were a little skeptical of holster compatibility without a weaponlight given the unique SCT 19 trigger guard. Here's an Aim Surplus blog post regarding SCT 19 holster fitment, Aim Surplus: Got Holster?and the corresponding YouTube video, Got an SCT Frame? Here is what we found for holsters! A "good fit" can be subjective when it comes to a holster. We get a little skeptical when we hear about achieving a good fit through the use of tension screws. In the absence of a weaponlight, the trigger guard is key to a good fit. The SCT 19 trigger guard is considerably different than an OEM Glock G19 trigger guard. However, we greatly appreciate Aim Surplus tackling the subject. Under "Holster Compatibility", the SCT 19 product description explicitly lists Bravo Concealment Company and Alien Gear holsters. This seems a little misleading if the SCT 19 frame is in fact, at least partially, compatible with G19 holsters. It implies the need for a holster specifically designed for the SCT 19 frame. Bryan Flannagan said, those were holsters that they tested in house, we have used them with multiple other holsters but most were X300 holsters Compact DaggerTM The #1 criticism of the Compact DaggerTM is poor holster compatibility. The two primary causes of holster compatibility issues are the Compact DaggerTM trigger guard and accessory rail. A weaponlight attached to the Compact DaggerTM accessory rail hangs lower than a weaponlight attached to an OEM Glock G19 gen3 accessory rail. The distance between the top of the Compact DaggerTM slide and the bottom of the weaponlight is taller making the holster fit tighter. Refer to, Compact DaggerTM Holster Compatibility Explained
The difference in the accessory rail also explains why weaponlights such as the SureFire X300U-A fit an OEM Glock G19 accessory rail securely and fit the Compact DaggerTM accessory rail poorly, Compact DaggerTM and SureFire X300U "A" vs "B" OTHER MODELS PSA offers custom Compact DaggerTM pistols, Custom Compact DaggerTM Pistols In addition to the DaggerTM Compact, PSA offers the or DaggerTM Full Size S (G19X/G45), DaggerTM Full Size S The DaggerTM Full Size S frame is offered à la carte in black, flat dark earth, gray, and sniper green, Complete DaggerTM Full Size S Frame At SHOT Show 2022, PSA debuted the DaggerTM Micro (G43X) with a 15-round hybrid polymer/steel G43X/G48 magazine (compatible with an OEM polymer magazine release), Micro DaggerTMAt SHOT Show 2023, PSA debuted the DaggerTM Full Size L (G17), DaggerTM Full Size LAnd in January 2022, PSA (informally) announced the .22 LR DaggerTM, .22 LR DaggerTM FUN FACTS |
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Whats the point of another glock?
Its the same size and shape, but likely wont be compatible with glock holsters but wont improve ergonomics. It will use the same internals, which means it will have a staple gun trigger. |
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SCT Manufacturing SCT 19 Frame $49.99 MSRP (with locking block) Here's an Aim Surplus YouTube review of the new SCT Manufacturing SCT 19 G19 gen3 frame, SCT Frame For Glock 19 from AimSurplus WHERE TO PURCHASE SCT 19 FRAME Aim Surplus SCT MANUFACTURING SCT19 COMPACT PISTOL FRAME- BLACKBrownells SCT MANUFACTURING - SCT 19 FRAME FOR GLOCK 19 |
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I would shoot the shit out of that. No fucks given. But alas, I'm in the middle of a remodel
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we already have them in building but can't release until Oct 25th, they will be sub $399
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THE SCT frame takes magpul magwells and has its own magwell coming. We have dealer pricing available and could hook up a Arf discount on them
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Two things.
1. If they made the serrations thinner, they could have for a lot more on the slide 2. The fuck is a “ thumb accelerator pad”? |
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Quoted: THE SCT frame takes magpul magwells and has its own magwell coming. We have dealer pricing available and could hook up a Arf discount on them View Quote |
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those were holsters that they tested in house, we have used them with multiple other holsters but most were X300 holsters
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Quoted: those were holsters that they tested in house, we have used them with multiple other holsters but most were X300 holsters View Quote Palmetto State Armory DaggerTMAnderson Manufacturing could definitely incorporate some improvements over the Compact DaggerTM in the area of the MRDS cut. |
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@Bryan_Aim,
Would you happen to have any Kiger 9C marketing material you can share? Or do we need to wait until October 25? I see Spartan Defense and Amchar Wholesale Inc. are using my photograph of the Kiger 9C. Doh! I guess Anderson Manufacturing didn't provide you guys with a stock photo? Can you add the Kiger 9C to the Aim Surplus web site at this time as well? I'd like to add a link to your product page. |
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The Glock clones that are on the market aren't much less than a true Glock. Why not spend the extra $100 and get the real time tested thing?
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Quoted: The Glock clones that are on the market aren't much less than a true Glock. Why not spend the extra $100 and get the real time tested thing? View Quote Why spend less than a 6920 Colt? Because people mod the shit out of Gen 3 19s in the same way. Face it people. The Gen 3 19 is the pistol form of an AR15. |
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Quoted: Why? I’ve used Anderson components and never had a problem. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I would trust the PSA glawk clone more than Anderson honestly Why? I’ve used Anderson components and never had a problem. I've got an out-of-spec lower that their CS never got back to me in regards to. |
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Quoted: I've got an out-of-spec lower that their CS never got back to me in regards to. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I would trust the PSA glawk clone more than Anderson honestly Why? I’ve used Anderson components and never had a problem. I've got an out-of-spec lower that their CS never got back to me in regards to. Sane thing happened with a out of spec colt upper I bought from midway. Ended up just returning it for a refund. |
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I've no use for another Glock, especially a poverty pony Glock.
But at $100 more than a hipoint it'll sell for those who want a glock but don't have the $. |
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Quoted: Should’ve called it the “Liger” View Quote Underrated tweet Attached File I don't really see the draw. I can get a blue label Glock for about the same price with the bonus of having solid holster options. |
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Slightly off-topic, but I'd alluded to the Combat Armory G19 gen3 frame in my original post in this thread as another popular serialized G19 gen3 frame. The Combat Armory frame has been extremely well received. As with the Kiger 9C / SCT 19 frame, it's compatible with OEM Glock and aftermarket parts intended for a G19 gen3 frame. The Combat Armory frame has very good compatibility with G19 holsters. And the Combat Armory frame is compatible with magwells and grip plugs intended for a G19 gen3 frame.
Combat Armory announced today that the $44.99 G19 gen3 frame (without locking block) will be back in stock soon! Stripped Pistol Frame For Gen 3 Glock 19/23/32 Parts Compatible |
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“New” guns are always good but that’s going to be a hard pass. I’ll stick to Glock
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Quoted: Want the 22lr version, or at least the slide View Quote .22 LR DaggerTMor an offering from Anderson Manufacturing? |
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Quoted: “New” guns are always good but that’s going to be a hard pass. I’ll stick to Glock View Quote Username checks out. These are exactly the same arguments the Colt Bros made about the 6920 around 2002. "Hey, man. Look at the chart! The Gold Standard. It's parked under the FSB!" A lot of people (me included) don't like the ergos of the Glock. Putting the same "guts" into a better-fitting package seems like an easy no-brainer. |
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So a clone of a glock for about the price of a glock.
Whoopee. I have considered PSA’s Dagger. They cheap. |
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Quoted: So a clone of a glock for about the price of a glock. Whoopee. I have considered PSA’s Dagger. They cheap. View Quote |
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Quoted: Spartan Defense ANDERSON KIGER 9C HGA 9MM 3.91 IN BBL 1/15RD MAGPUL MAGAmchar Wholesale Inc.... View Quote $500 out the door (if lucky), for that horribly non-ergo straight grip overall mail-it-in design; for a me-too Glock knock off? Uh.. no. Make it $250 and we might talk - maybe. |
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Quoted: $500 out the door (if lucky), for that horribly non-ergo straight grip overall mail-it-in design; for a me-too Glock knock off? Uh.. no. Make it $250 and we might talk - maybe. View Quote One of the most well-received aspects of the $299.99 Compact DaggerTM is the frame. The Compact DaggerTM frame and an OEM Glock G19 frame share the same grip angle. However, the unique ergonomics of the Compact DaggerTM frame make it handle as if the grip angle is very different. |
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