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Posted: 4/9/2016 9:18:55 AM EDT
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to WS6, I use a lee universal expander to bell my cases for my cast boolits then I use a rcbs 300 bo seater die adjusted to close the bell when I seat the boolit. I have the lee FCD and have used it but this is better for me. sometimes the lee FCD would put way too much crimp and other times not enough. I know it was due to variations in my brass but with the rcbs seater die I get better results
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Posted: 4/9/2016 9:39:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zoofergee:
has anyone tried running black powder in your 300blk and does it cycle i dont think so but it would be interesting to see 300 blk with blackpowder |
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Posted: 4/17/2016 4:56:19 PM EDT
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I took a few loads out today to test out my new chronometer. The subsonic were using MBC 245GR coated bullets, and Accurate 1680 seated at 2.120" OAL, and they all cycled fine. I tried a Magpul Gen3 20rd mag and a USGI 30rd and it worked good in both..but it wouldn't work in an old Magpul gen1 20rd I had.
I also tested out some Nosler 110GR Varmageddon, using Ramshot Enforcer powder. All were shot through a Noveske barrel with a Gemtech Quicksand 
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Posted: 4/17/2016 7:07:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DeLuce:
I took a few loads out today to test out my new chronometer. The subsonic were using MBC 245GR coated bullets, and Accurate 1680 seated at 2.120" OAL, and they all cycled fine. I tried a Magpul Gen3 20rd mag and a USGI 30rd and it worked good in both..but it wouldn't work in an old Magpul gen1 20rd I had. I also tested out some Nosler 110GR Varmageddon, using Ramshot Enforcer powder. All were shot through a Noveske barrel with a Gemtech Quicksand http://nwoo.net/i/300BO.jpg What barrel length, primer and gas system are you running? Im also using 10.6gr A1680 with the 245 MBC, and #41 primers. Shot 25 rounds. Averaging 1039 fps 16 SD. with a 14.5" barrel / pistol gas. I just loaded up 100 more in LC brass I reformed to try out. |
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Posted: 4/17/2016 8:32:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mybronco2:
What barrel length, primer and gas system are you running? Im also using 10.6gr A1680 with the 245 MBC, and #41 primers. Shot 25 rounds. Averaging 1039 fps 16 SD. with a 14.5" barrel / pistol gas. I just loaded up 100 more in LC brass I reformed to try out. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mybronco2:
Originally Posted By DeLuce:
I took a few loads out today to test out my new chronometer. The subsonic were using MBC 245GR coated bullets, and Accurate 1680 seated at 2.120" OAL, and they all cycled fine. I tried a Magpul Gen3 20rd mag and a USGI 30rd and it worked good in both..but it wouldn't work in an old Magpul gen1 20rd I had. I also tested out some Nosler 110GR Varmageddon, using Ramshot Enforcer powder. All were shot through a Noveske barrel with a Gemtech Quicksand http://nwoo.net/i/300BO.jpg What barrel length, primer and gas system are you running? Im also using 10.6gr A1680 with the 245 MBC, and #41 primers. Shot 25 rounds. Averaging 1039 fps 16 SD. with a 14.5" barrel / pistol gas. I just loaded up 100 more in LC brass I reformed to try out. 8.5" barrel, pistol gas and the same on #41 primers. |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:15:43 AM EDT
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Looks like the ES on 10.6 gr is lower for both of us.
I will have to try a early 20rd pmag, just because.... Iv been using a G3 20rd with zero issues. Bolts locked back everytime and Iv loaded down to 10.3 gr |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 2:36:14 PM EDT
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thanks savage243.
on another note I think I am having an issue with some brass and wonder what you all think. when I originally built my 300 a couple of years ago I bought some already made ammo from a local FFL7 and also 2k of brass. The ammo shoots fine and groups decent. The real issue is the brass headspace. I started to work up loads a week ago. After I was done with the first tree I tried to find the headspace of the chamber and was having issues with that (there was a very large variance in the fired brass headspace) I then checked some of the formed unfired brass and notice that the headspace on the cartages ran anywhere from 1.070 to 1.062. I am using the brass to load up subs if it matters. so the question is, is most the brass trash or can I still use it? I have a feeling that a lot of it will be short (headspace wise). is it safe to load and shoot with the headspace being that short? |
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Posted: 5/10/2016 1:27:45 PM EDT
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What load data should I start with for loading Hornady 208gn ELD rounds with H110?
I have never loaded subs before so I want to know where to start. I looked but did not find any load info on Hornady's website. I have my data and will start loading some 110gn V-Max rounds tonight. 8" Aero barrel with matched Aero BCG, Pistol length gas, Carbine buffer, Form 1 suppressor, Spikes upper and lower. |
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Posted: 5/10/2016 10:18:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shawnson:
What load data should I start with for loading Hornady 208gn ELD rounds with H110? I have never loaded subs before so I want to know where to start. I looked but did not find any load info on Hornady's website. I have my data and will start loading some 110gn V-Max rounds tonight. 8" Aero barrel with matched Aero BCG, Pistol length gas, Carbine buffer, Form 1 suppressor, Spikes upper and lower. Not sure I'd use 110 for these. I use 1680 for my 208 ELD's. Try 10.7-10.9 of 1680 as its better suited for subsonic loads. |
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Posted: 5/11/2016 12:31:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SigJoe:
Not sure I'd use 110 for these. I use 1680 for my 208 ELD's. Try 10.7-10.9 of 1680 as its better suited for subsonic loads. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SigJoe:
Originally Posted By Shawnson:
What load data should I start with for loading Hornady 208gn ELD rounds with H110? I have never loaded subs before so I want to know where to start. I looked but did not find any load info on Hornady's website. I have my data and will start loading some 110gn V-Max rounds tonight. 8" Aero barrel with matched Aero BCG, Pistol length gas, Carbine buffer, Form 1 suppressor, Spikes upper and lower. Not sure I'd use 110 for these. I use 1680 for my 208 ELD's. Try 10.7-10.9 of 1680 as its better suited for subsonic loads. Thanks for the tip. When I get a chance to get my hands on some 1680 I will. Right now the only blackout compatible powder I have is h110. It may not be ideal but that is what I have to work with. Any idea on a starting charge for H110? I know people do it but most people only show their pet loads, I want to work up my own so I was looking for a starting load. |
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Posted: 5/11/2016 11:46:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: sheltot]
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Check out Hogdon's site.
Eta: I agree with SigJoe, this isn't ideal powder for subs. You might get erratic results. |
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Posted: 5/12/2016 9:53:46 AM EDT
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H110 is kind of finicky; you can get up to some point and have it behave just like you expect, but get a tiny bit hotter, and you can have big jumps in pressure. Lil' Gun is much nicer to use, without the issues of H110. My supers have done best with Lil' Gun and IMR 4227, from 110 to 150 grain bullets. Subsonic loads are more complex, and I haven't messed with them yet. You need to balance bullet weight, desired velocity, and gas pressure (one reason pistol gas is superior to carbine, even in 16" barrels).
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Posted: 5/13/2016 9:38:05 AM EDT
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So what is the current thought on using small magnum pistol primers, lets say CCI #550, for 300 BLK? I have read several thoughts on it over the years both for and against. My thought is that they would work out well with the W296 I am loading under 110-130 gr bullets. I have a friend here locally who has loaded a few thousand this way without an issue. All of my loads to date have been made using CCI #41 primers or Tula Small Rifle Magnum primers. I have an opportunity to pick up 8k of the #550 locally for a price I haven't seen in years so I am very tempted to jump all over it.
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Posted: 5/13/2016 12:56:26 PM EDT
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Use rifle primers in 300 blk. Those 550's work well in 357. |
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Posted: 5/21/2016 7:28:32 PM EDT
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Are the PalmettoProjectiles 203s good for a subsonic plinking load? Any reviews on them?
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Posted: 5/21/2016 8:29:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 24DodgeBros]
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jefflebowski:
Are the PalmettoProjectiles 203s good for a subsonic plinking load? Any reviews on them? No problems with them here. Shipping is a little slow, but they work fine and the price is right. ETA: You do need to bell the case mouth a little to prevent scraping the coating when seating. |
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Posted: 5/21/2016 10:52:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 24DodgeBros:
No problems with them here. Shipping is a little slow, but they work fine and the price is right. ETA: You do need to bell the case mouth a little to prevent scraping the coating when seating. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 24DodgeBros:
Originally Posted By jefflebowski:
Are the PalmettoProjectiles 203s good for a subsonic plinking load? Any reviews on them? No problems with them here. Shipping is a little slow, but they work fine and the price is right. ETA: You do need to bell the case mouth a little to prevent scraping the coating when seating. Awesome, thank you for the quick reply and good info. I am still not sure on how to proceed with regards to plinking subsonic. |
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Posted: 5/21/2016 11:02:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jefflebowski: Awesome, thank you for the quick reply and good info. I am still not sure on how to proceed with regards to plinking subsonic. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jefflebowski: Originally Posted By 24DodgeBros: Originally Posted By jefflebowski: Are the PalmettoProjectiles 203s good for a subsonic plinking load? Any reviews on them? No problems with them here. Shipping is a little slow, but they work fine and the price is right. ETA: You do need to bell the case mouth a little to prevent scraping the coating when seating. Awesome, thank you for the quick reply and good info. I am still not sure on how to proceed with regards to plinking subsonic. I suggest you start your own thread and ask your questions. Give a good idea of what you wish to achieve with your loads and describe your rifle and anything else you think may help. Like how much reloading experience you have. Good luck |
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Posted: 5/22/2016 12:17:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jefflebowski]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dryflash3:
I suggest you start your own thread and ask your questions. Give a good idea of what you wish to achieve with your loads and describe your rifle and anything else you think may help. Like how much reloading experience you have. Good luck Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dryflash3:
Originally Posted By jefflebowski:
Originally Posted By 24DodgeBros:
Originally Posted By jefflebowski:
Are the PalmettoProjectiles 203s good for a subsonic plinking load? Any reviews on them? No problems with them here. Shipping is a little slow, but they work fine and the price is right. ETA: You do need to bell the case mouth a little to prevent scraping the coating when seating. Awesome, thank you for the quick reply and good info. I am still not sure on how to proceed with regards to plinking subsonic. I suggest you start your own thread and ask your questions. Give a good idea of what you wish to achieve with your loads and describe your rifle and anything else you think may help. Like how much reloading experience you have. Good luck I will once I do some more reading. I have no reloading experience but I do have a fully equipped 550.. I appreciate the encouragement. |
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Posted: 5/23/2016 1:44:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: mybronco2]
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Loaded up some of the Palmetto 203gr with A1680 @10.6 (worked up from 10.2) and clocked at 1060fps. (the 10.2gr load clocked at mid 900's)
Wolf Primers, 14.5" barrel. Also tried some Barnes 110gr Tac TX loaded with H110 and Wolf primers Worked up to max from... 19.0gr (2264 fps) 19.2gr (2294) 19.4gr (2296) 19.6gr (2329) Right at 1 MOA 19.8gr (2347) 20.0gr (2364) MAX LOAD 20.2gr (2380) Felt HOT!! Factory Barnes load (2317 fps) Was doing the OCW type of groups, and my next test will be with 19.5, 19.7 and 19.9.to confirm (something tells me 19.7... its weird, most of my loads end in .7 
I have only messed with Subs to this point, and the 110gr feel like real hammers 
Then Lil'Gun......IF I can find some... eta color |
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Posted: 5/23/2016 9:32:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: makintrax73]
[#21]
Pretty happy with this 300 Blk load
125 Hornady SST 18.8 gr H110 Wolf SRM Converted LC brass 2212 fps avg, 21 sd, per Magnetospeed. 
1.35" at 100 yards. Shot approx the same during load work up. AR. 16" FN CHF barrel. Home assembled. 4x PA scope. Caution! Believed to be at or near max. Exceeds published data for Nosler 125 substantially. No pressure signs in my gun. Loads in the low to mid 18s showed poor accuracy. Improved measurably as I approached 18.8. ETA: prior 5 shot group during work up put 4 in 3/4" with a flier that opened it to 1.65" |
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Posted: 6/4/2016 11:01:13 PM EDT
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In the new Barnes load data, they recommend using Lil'Gun for the 110gr Tac Tx
I finally found a pound, and tried it today..... Ugly 
I tried... 18.4 18.6 18.8 19.0 19.2 I will be sticking with H110 
The worst group ever shot with the H110 load, is better than the Best group of Lil'Gun The best SD of the loads was at 18.8, with a SD of 29! 
With H110 its 7 to 12....
Now to try 19.6 or .7 gr H110 with Wolf and #41 primers and make a choice. I also tried out more subs, but the data got messed up as I found myself, trying to get two shots off before the ring of the 1st hit on steel at 100yrd
Then It was tried to get 3 shoots off....Kinda weird, I ran out of ammo in a hurry, not sure why 
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Posted: 6/4/2016 11:57:47 PM EDT
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I use H-110 with the light bullets, up to 135 gr Sierra MK.
On bullets 150 gr on up, that's where Lil'Gun shines. I was very happy with my H-110, 110 gr TacTX load. |
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Posted: 6/5/2016 10:04:52 AM EDT
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I have had great results with barns 110 blacktips loaded with 20 grn of lil gun. I use these for hunting in both a 16" and 10.5 " bbl. When I tried h110 my SD was greater. I also found accuracy was better with the lil gun. I don't know how much it was effected by temps being that I live in Florida and we are only 20 miles from the sun.
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Posted: 6/5/2016 10:46:54 AM EDT
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Anyone know about how temp stable H110 is in the .300 Blk?
I noticed the speed was up yesterday, and it was warmer than the 1st test, but I used Win brass the 1st test and LC yesterday. Anyone care to share there "Pet" H110/110gr Barnes load? (I start reading back and get to distracted and lost in new ideas) |
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Posted: 6/6/2016 2:55:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dryflash3:
I use H-110 with the light bullets, up to 135 gr Sierra MK. On bullets 150 gr on up, that's where Lil'Gun shines. I was very happy with my H-110, 110 gr TacTX load. Same here. 20.0 of h110/w296, load to 2.25", light crimp with a Lee fcd, and shoot to your heart's content. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 6/6/2016 9:00:23 PM EDT
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ok guys, I've read through about 25 pages so far. A lot of great info here. I've got 1k Brass, 4lbs of Lil'Gun, and 1k CCI #41's.
Projo wise I have: 130gr Mk318 SOST Pulls 147gr M80 pulls 168gr SMK's 168gr AMAX 208gr ELD's 220gr Nosler Custom Comps and I just ordered some 220gr Rainers. I know the LilGun works great for the 200+ stuff, but what powder would you guys suggest for the 130 and 147gr projos? 147 is just going to be cheap Plinking rounds, but I'd like to make some nice hunting rounds out of the SOST projos. |
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Posted: 6/6/2016 9:46:51 PM EDT
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Try the Lil'Gun for mid weights.
I tried the 110s and it SUCKED bad. Starting at 18.4 to 19.2 only increased velocity by 58fps Barnes lists the MAX at 19.4, and Im reading where people have loaded that bullet to 20.0 grs, but inless it jumps another 170fps, its pointless. Iv been reading that Lil'Gun works well with the 150gr bullets. I load Barnes 110gr for "killing" and Subs for fun, so inless a 150gr bullet tree starts growing in my yard, I will stick with Subs, for cheaper blasting loads. I thought I would try the Lilgun, being Barnes recommends it. I had great luck with the 62gr TTSX and there recommended RL15. Im VERY MUCH ok with A1680 for Subs and H110 for Barnes 110gr TacTx The Lil'Gun, can sit on the shelf and keep the CFE 223 company. 
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Posted: 6/6/2016 9:53:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mybronco2:
The Lil'Gun, can sit on the shelf and keep the CFE 223 company. funny, CFE223 Is actually my favorite 5.56 powder. I went through 30lbs of it loading up everything from 55gr Nosler Varmegeddon's, 62gr SMKs, to over 2k 55FMJ's while out on LOA from work. Anyway, I need to find some 1680 I guess, everyone seems to like it for 300blk loads, but I haven't seen a pound of it on any shelf down here in nearly 4 years. |
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Posted: 6/6/2016 10:35:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: snowshooter]
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KrazyL:
funny, CFE223 Is actually my favorite 5.56 powder. I went through 30lbs of it loading up everything from 55gr Nosler Varmegeddon's, 62gr SMKs, to over 2k 55FMJ's while out on LOA from work. Anyway, I need to find some 1680 I guess, everyone seems to like it for 300blk loads, but I haven't seen a pound of it on any shelf down here in nearly 4 years. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KrazyL:
Originally Posted By mybronco2:
The Lil'Gun, can sit on the shelf and keep the CFE 223 company. funny, CFE223 Is actually my favorite 5.56 powder. I went through 30lbs of it loading up everything from 55gr Nosler Varmegeddon's, 62gr SMKs, to over 2k 55FMJ's while out on LOA from work. Anyway, I need to find some 1680 I guess, everyone seems to like it for 300blk loads, but I haven't seen a pound of it on any shelf down here in nearly 4 years. I am having good results with 300-MP. Not a lot of data out there for it, but there is some. Lil gun is too warm for my tastes. I don't really like H110. IMR4227 is great to work with. 1680 isn't the only option. Best for cycling an AR with subs though. |
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Posted: 6/6/2016 11:22:15 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KrazyL:
...Anyway, I need to find some 1680 I guess, everyone seems to like it for 300blk loads, but I haven't seen a pound of it on any shelf down here in nearly 4 years. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KrazyL:
Originally Posted By mybronco2:
The Lil'Gun, can sit on the shelf and keep the CFE 223 company. ...Anyway, I need to find some 1680 I guess, everyone seems to like it for 300blk loads, but I haven't seen a pound of it on any shelf down here in nearly 4 years. A1680 is on my list of "big bottles" worth having.
I guess H110 can be added to that list as well.... You have Lil'Gun and the bullets, I would be loading those 147's, and seeing what you get. |
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Posted: 6/7/2016 6:23:32 PM EDT
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I've had great results with Lil' Gun and light bullets, down to 110 grains. It rocks. I've also loaded 150s with Lil' Gun and with IMR 4227 with excellent results.
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Posted: 6/8/2016 9:38:59 AM EDT
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H110 for my 110-125gr loads.
At the time 1680 was difficult to find so I went with 5744 for subs. It does leave some unburnt every once in awhile, but been shooting 168-220 loaded subsonically with 5744 with great accuracy results. |
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Posted: 6/8/2016 2:20:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dryflash3]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KrazyL: ok guys, I've read through about 25 pages so far. A lot of great info here. I've got 1k Brass, 4lbs of Lil'Gun, and 1k CCI #41's. Projo wise I have: 130gr Mk318 SOST Pulls 147gr M80 pulls 168gr SMK's 168gr AMAX 208gr ELD's 220gr Nosler Custom Comps and I just ordered some 220gr Rainers. I know the LilGun works great for the 200+ stuff, but what powder would you guys suggest for the 130 and 147gr projos? 147 is just going to be cheap Plinking rounds, but I'd like to make some nice hunting rounds out of the SOST projos. Where are you finding <snip>please use the tacked "where to find" thread at the top of the page. dryflash3 |
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Posted: 6/16/2016 5:49:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Texcape05]
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Hey Guys,
I've been loading 300BO for about 2 years, but I havent shot anything except Sierra Match Kings and Hornady AMAX and ELDXs. I tried Palmetto Projectiles to try to lower my costs and didnt have much success. See the picture below (Note it says 220gn, but they are really 203s) I used the load data that Palmetto Projectiles provides found here: http://palmettoprojectiles.com/pages/load-data The A1680 and the W296 both had trouble with every single round causing a fail to feed. Might this be because they were underpowered for my gun? Secondly, none of my groups were any good. Any suggestions to tighten up the groups and cure the fail to feeds? The loads: AA168 10.2 Grains !MR 4198 11.0 Grains W296 9.4 Grains All COL were 1.95 (which is shorter than I normally load, but I was following the PP recipe) The gun has a stainless steel palmetto state armory 8.5 inch barrel with a 1/8 twist. Also, note that I've read that the Palmetto Projectile bullets are under sized. That does not appear to be the case. I measured them at .309 Heavy compared to the Hornadys that are .308 Also note that I was shooting a new red dot and was having some elevation problems. I shot aiming at the orange circles, so I was shooting 8" low at 75 feet. Thats another problem for another day :) 
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Posted: 6/17/2016 6:09:53 PM EDT
[#36]
I have been having good luck with a couple different loads.
Both use Remington cut down brass cut to 1.355 CCI 41 primers. IMR 4227 Hornady 150 FMJ 15.0 Grains 2.06" Speer 125 TNT 16.5 Grains 2.030" Both function well in PWS lowered 10.5" pistol gassed frankengun with multiple magazines. 3:30-4:00 ejection and bolt hold open on all mags. No issues at all. |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 10:59:33 PM EDT
[#37]
Bump for Motor1.
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Posted: 6/22/2016 8:32:19 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mevertsen:
I have been having good luck with a couple different loads. Both use Remington cut down brass cut to 1.355 CCI 41 primers. IMR 4227 Hornady 150 FMJ 15.0 Grains 2.06" Speer 125 TNT 16.5 Grains 2.030" Both function well in PWS lowered 10.5" pistol gassed frankengun with multiple magazines. 3:30-4:00 ejection and bolt hold open on all mags. No issues at all. Velocities, please? |
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Posted: 6/22/2016 9:31:16 PM EDT
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Hottest 300 round?
Question has already been covered I bet, but I've been researching it and have found some limiting answers. Thus far it looks like the Gemtech 110-grain is a pretty hot load, and would be an OK choice for self defense. But what's the hottest out of a 10" or 10.5" barrel? I don't think I want to reload my own defense ammo, so I'm looking at options that the manufacturers support. TY for any answers. |
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Posted: 6/22/2016 9:43:27 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Floridian: Hottest 300 round? Question has already been covered I bet, but I've been researching it and have found some limiting answers. Thus far it looks like the Gemtech 110-grain is a pretty hot load, and would be an OK choice for self defense. But what's the hottest out of a 10" or 10.5" barrel? I don't think I want to reload my own defense ammo, so I'm looking at options that the manufacturers support. TY for any answers. This forum is all about reloading, you might want to try here, https://www.ar15.com/forums/f_3/16_Ammunition.html, the AR 15 Ammo forum. That is the forum to ask factory load questions. |
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Posted: 6/22/2016 10:21:14 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sheltot:
Velocities, please? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sheltot:
Originally Posted By mevertsen:
I have been having good luck with a couple different loads. Both use Remington cut down brass cut to 1.355 CCI 41 primers. IMR 4227 Hornady 150 FMJ 15.0 Grains 2.06" Speer 125 TNT 16.5 Grains 2.030" Both function well in PWS lowered 10.5" pistol gassed frankengun with multiple magazines. 3:30-4:00 ejection and bolt hold open on all mags. No issues at all. Velocities, please? Will try this weekend. Just wanted a good accurate plonker and coyote round. Have not tested velocities. I will send you a pm when I do. |
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Posted: 6/22/2016 10:50:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dryflash3:
This forum is all about reloading, you might want to try here, https://www.ar15.com/forums/f_3/16_Ammunition.html, the AR 15 Ammo forum. That is the forum to ask factory load questions. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dryflash3:
Originally Posted By The_Floridian:
Hottest 300 round? Question has already been covered I bet, but I've been researching it and have found some limiting answers. Thus far it looks like the Gemtech 110-grain is a pretty hot load, and would be an OK choice for self defense. But what's the hottest out of a 10" or 10.5" barrel? I don't think I want to reload my own defense ammo, so I'm looking at options that the manufacturers support. TY for any answers. This forum is all about reloading, you might want to try here, https://www.ar15.com/forums/f_3/16_Ammunition.html, the AR 15 Ammo forum. That is the forum to ask factory load questions. My fault - I found the thread, but didn't look at the forum area. |
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Posted: 6/22/2016 11:50:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Floridian: My fault - I found the thread, but didn't look at the forum area. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Floridian: Originally Posted By dryflash3: Originally Posted By The_Floridian: Hottest 300 round? Question has already been covered I bet, but I've been researching it and have found some limiting answers. Thus far it looks like the Gemtech 110-grain is a pretty hot load, and would be an OK choice for self defense. But what's the hottest out of a 10" or 10.5" barrel? I don't think I want to reload my own defense ammo, so I'm looking at options that the manufacturers support. TY for any answers. This forum is all about reloading, you might want to try here, https://www.ar15.com/forums/f_3/16_Ammunition.html, the AR 15 Ammo forum. That is the forum to ask factory load questions. My fault - I found the thread, but didn't look at the forum area. |
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Posted: 7/2/2016 4:13:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: defenderhome]
[#44]
Loaded my first subs today and they failed to cycle suppressed.
208gr Hornady ELD match 10.9gr. AA1680 2.165 OAL 1094 fps average GUN: 9" CMMG 1/7 Phase 5 pistol tube/ buffer standard low pro gas block Any suggestions? I don't want to open the gas port if I can help it. I will shoot supers when I hunt. I was thinking of a reduced power spring? What are the good ones? How about Buffers? Thanks ETA Typo |
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Posted: 7/2/2016 4:40:31 PM EDT
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Try to go up in charge a bit. Anything under 1120 dps should be subsonic at any temp. If that doesn't work, try the spring
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Posted: 7/2/2016 5:27:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By defenderhome:
Loaded my first subs today and they failed to cycle suppressed. 208gr Hornady ELD match 10.9gr. AA1680 2.165 OAL 1094 fps average GUN: 9" CMMG 1/7 Phase 5 pistol tube/ buffer standard low pro gas block Any suggestions? I don't want to open the gas port if I can help it. I will shoot supers when I hunt. I was thinking of a reduced power spring? What are the good ones? How about Buffers? Thanks ETA Typo Must be gas port size or some other gas issue. I have no problems cycling with loads under 1000 fps suppressed. I also use 1680. |
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Posted: 7/3/2016 12:22:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By defenderhome:
Loaded my first subs today and they failed to cycle suppressed. 208gr Hornady ELD match 10.9gr. AA1680 2.165 OAL 1094 fps average GUN: 9" CMMG 1/7 Phase 5 pistol tube/ buffer standard low pro gas block Any suggestions? I don't want to open the gas port if I can help it. I will shoot supers when I hunt. I was thinking of a reduced power spring? What are the good ones? How about Buffers? Thanks ETA Typo This is my go to load now in a 8" upper with a SDN6 can. I'm running a Ultra compact lwrc stock and runs fine. I also ran a H3/2 buffer and it wa s fine. My money is on your gas port size. |
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Posted: 7/3/2016 9:14:37 PM EDT
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So I already use lilgun for my barns 110 blacktips and I want to load sub's as well. I prefer to use the same powder for each cal I load for. I just tried this today sorry not crono yet. All cycled in my Rainer 10.5" 1-8.5 twist with h2 buffer and Surefire socom can. All cycled with and without the can. They actually sounded the same as my nosler 220 factory sub ammo so I'm thinking they are good to go.
245g MBC, 8.4 Lil' Gun, COAL 2.130 |
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Posted: 7/3/2016 10:25:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By defenderhome:
Loaded my first subs today and they failed to cycle suppressed. 208gr Hornady ELD match 10.9gr. AA1680 2.165 OAL 1094 fps average GUN: 9" CMMG 1/7 Phase 5 pistol tube/ buffer standard low pro gas block Any suggestions? I don't want to open the gas port if I can help it. I will shoot supers when I hunt. I was thinking of a reduced power spring? What are the good ones? How about Buffers? Thanks ETA Typo I'm going to clean and lube the heck of out this gun. Broke down and bought some HNDY 208 factory loads and a friend loaned some 220gr subs. If the factory stuff doesn't run, I'll have to open the gas port or maybe try the lighter spring. |
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Posted: 7/4/2016 9:51:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By defenderhome:
I'm going to clean and lube the heck of out this gun. Broke down and bought some HNDY 208 factory loads and a friend loaned some 220gr subs. If the factory stuff doesn't run, I'll have to open the gas port or maybe try the lighter spring. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By defenderhome:
Originally Posted By defenderhome:
Loaded my first subs today and they failed to cycle suppressed. 208gr Hornady ELD match 10.9gr. AA1680 2.165 OAL 1094 fps average GUN: 9" CMMG 1/7 Phase 5 pistol tube/ buffer standard low pro gas block Any suggestions? I don't want to open the gas port if I can help it. I will shoot supers when I hunt. I was thinking of a reduced power spring? What are the good ones? How about Buffers? Thanks ETA Typo I'm going to clean and lube the heck of out this gun. Broke down and bought some HNDY 208 factory loads and a friend loaned some 220gr subs. If the factory stuff doesn't run, I'll have to open the gas port or maybe try the lighter spring. Assuming you've made triple-sure the gas block is properly aligned, have you made sure the gas tube isn't somehow kinked? My 8" upper runs fine with a standard carbine buffer. IIRC, pistol buffers are quite a bit heavier than a standard carbine buffer. I'd swap in a standard carbine buffer and spring, and see how that works. At worst, it will give you more information about your problem. Finally, keep in mind that a subsonic Blackout round will have a lot less energy than a super, which includes less gas pressure and volume. You may need to go really light on both the spring and buffer, or resort to only shooting subs with a suppressor (which will provide a lot of back pressure and thus improve cycling). |
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