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Flash Not sure if you saw the other thread where the guy built the dryer for the top of his A/C coil outside. Pretty slick idea IMHO. I saw that thread, and asked about the aluminum screen. Not a problem OP said. Up in Wa. the AC season is August. I'm still using the woodstove in the mornings in my shop. For me, I'm thinking a light bulb for heat and a small fan. lol, I am tumbling like crazy right now to take advantage of our short supply of solar power to dry off my cases! |
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any chance to sticky this No. Not a chance. But, if a person were to read the tacked Gateway thread, I'm betting that person would find all sorts of useful and interesting information about reloading. |
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I just put a link to this thread in the Useful / Gateway thread.
Also thread is toggled, (won't go into the archives) so it will always be on page 30 to 33, at the end of the forum. |
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Stainless steel pins from Pellets LLC must be as great as sliced bread.
I called to place an order and the lady anticipated that I wanted the pins for brass tumbling. She's getting lots of calls, and I think they are happy for the business. Also, she's boxing my order right now in the small flat rate box, so right there is $5 saved on shipping. I have an enormous nail keg full of NM brass with the toughest carbon deposit in the primer pockets I've ever seen, so hopefully this method will be its cure. |
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its flipping arf and SH. Everyone bragging about how good this stuff is and posting pics of bling. Stop this so I can quit spending money
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its flipping arf and SH. Everyone bragging about how good this stuff is and posting pics of bling. Stop this so I can quit spending money 1-716-693-1750. Push 2. The nice lady at Pellets LLC will take your name, address, and credit card number. I know of one ex benchrest shooter that is using the pins, too, and I've seen two posts on the topic at Benchrest Central. |
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Probably side-tracking this thread a bit but thought I'd chime in.
I noticed that pre-soaking can reduce your tumbling time. A few weekends ago I de-capped and soaked a few thousand .223 cases, most of which were dirty range pickups (mostly LC of various years, and FC 223 headstamps). The soak: warm water, ajax dish liquid (1 tablespoon per gallon of water), and some lemishine (1/2 teaspoon per gallon of water). I premixed the warm water, ajax and lemishine in another bucket and poured the solution into the five gallon bucket. I let the cases soak for 24 hours. I tumbled about 1,000 pre-soaked cases with both a high speed and a low speed motor Thumler Model B. Ordinarily, it takes about 2.5-3 hours to get primer pockets clean with "dry" cases. Thus far, with soaking, I've been able to reduce tumbling time to 2 hours. No real discernable difference in results between high speed and low speed motors. The cases don't come out as "shiny" as those that would be tumbled for another hour or so, but the case interior and primer pockets are clean. Good enough for me. Looks like at the very least, pre-soaking gets some of the range dirt off the cases, and softens up primer pocket crud. I believe (going off memory here) that water temperature makes a difference in shortening your tumbling time - so start with hot water for your tumble. |
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I've advocated a pre-soak since this method started. I noticed that the carbon in cases I had soaked for as little as 30 minutes to an hour was very soft and could be wiped out with a q-tip or paper towel, but it sticks to the brass well enough that a run through the vibratory tumbler was just not enough mechanical action.
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I will have to try the presoaking next time I get a nasty bunch of range brass to tumble.
Great bling pics Woodys556. |
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Great bling pics Woodys556. Thanks, You should see the 556 brass. I need sunglasses! |
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Serious brass envy over here
I can not WAIT until I can afford to order one! The drool is pretty much dripping out of my mouth looking at the brass. |
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Serious brass envy over here I can not WAIT until I can afford to order one! The drool is pretty much dripping out of my mouth looking at the brass. Save your pennies, you will get there. |
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Serious brass envy over here I can not WAIT until I can afford to order one! The drool is pretty much dripping out of my mouth looking at the brass. Read the thread about fabricating a rotary tumbler. You don't have to follow that arrangement exactly, use your imagination. For example, a wood frame and base can be used. You don't even need to buy bearings, a couple of pieces of nice oak with a reasonably accurate hole to serve as a bearing will work. Add an oiling hole, and soak her up. When I was a kid growing up just about everyone that bothered to sharpen lawnmower blades had a home made grinder powered by an old washing machine motor. The low speeds of these tumblers won't even being to tax this bearing. |
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Link to BIGGDAWG's home built wet tumbler thread.
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Preliminary report on my first load.
I put a "bunch" of .308 cases in the tumbler and added 1 tablespoon of Lemishine and enough hot water to cover, and agitated the mix to dissolve the Lemishine. The water depth was about 1/4th the depth of the container. I presoaked 1 hour, and checked one primer pocket with a piece of paper towel; sure enough, the carbon deposit was soft enough to wipe out maybe 90% without trying to see if three swipes took it all out. I added the pins, dish soap, and enough water to bring the water level up to about 2/3rd's full, because that looked about right. After 1 hour of tumbling, the cases are essentially ready to dry. A few cases I checked still had just a tiny spot of carbon left, the interiors looked clean, and the exteriors are showing good shine. The mix had a nice head of suds and is turning black. I'll check again after the second hour. I'll count the number of cases later. These are all Federal cases, probably all from GMM ammo. Update: I had 99 cases in the tumbler. At the end of the second hour I added half a tablespoon of Lemishine as the primer pockets were still showing very small indications of carbon although the interiors were clean. At the end of 3 hours I stopped, separated the media, and set the cases outside on a trash bag to dry. When I got home from shooting I brought them in for a closer look. All of the .308 Win cases and a couple of stray .223 Rem cases are clean with a slightly matte finish, a .40 S&W case is slick as a whistle, and a 6mm Rem case had just a tiny spot of carbon left in the primer pocket. Next I'll see how it does on the .308 NM brass. I have some ancient 6mm Rem brass that will be a nice challenge, too. |
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Not sure if this has been mentioned previously, but Sinclair now carries the SS media /Thumler Tumbler kits.
http://www.sinclairintl.com/.aspx/pid=42993/Product/Thumler_Tumbler_Stainless_Steel_Tumbling_Kit?ICID=s5012 |
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Not sure if this has been mentioned previously, but Sinclair now carries the SS media /Thumler Tumbler kits. http://www.sinclairintl.com/.aspx/pid=42993/Product/Thumler_Tumbler_Stainless_Steel_Tumbling_Kit?ICID=s5012 Thanks for posting. The cost is the going price, which is fair. Only have to order the kit and you have everything except Dawn and Lemishine. The add doesn't mention the motor rpm. The reviews seem to indicate the high speed tumbler. 3,000 rpm=high speed=4 hour tumble time. 1,500 rpm=low speed=8 hour tumble time. |
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Hi, thank you for this info. What size is the best to use? http://www.pelletsllc.com/CutWireShot/CutWireShotSizes
Thanks, Eric Quoted: Stainless steel pins from Pellets LLC must be as great as sliced bread. I called to place an order and the lady anticipated that I wanted the pins for brass tumbling. She's getting lots of calls, and I think they are happy for the business. Also, she's boxing my order right now in the small flat rate box, so right there is $5 saved on shipping. I have an enormous nail keg full of NM brass with the toughest carbon deposit in the primer pockets I've ever seen, so hopefully this method will be its cure. |
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Hi, thank you for this info. What size is the best to use? http://www.pelletsllc.com/CutWireShot/CutWireShotSizes Thanks, Eric Quoted:
Stainless steel pins from Pellets LLC must be as great as sliced bread. I called to place an order and the lady anticipated that I wanted the pins for brass tumbling. She's getting lots of calls, and I think they are happy for the business. Also, she's boxing my order right now in the small flat rate box, so right there is $5 saved on shipping. I have an enormous nail keg full of NM brass with the toughest carbon deposit in the primer pockets I've ever seen, so hopefully this method will be its cure. just call them and tell them you want them for tumbling media and the lady knows exactly what to send. very nice and easy to work with. |
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Same tumbler I have but mine is a lortone , I use it to make black powder
Mite want to be carefull where you dump the water if your on a well (lead) |
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Stainless steel pins from Pellets LLC must be as great as sliced bread. I called to place an order and the lady anticipated that I wanted the pins for brass tumbling. She's getting lots of calls, and I think they are happy for the business. Also, she's boxing my order right now in the small flat rate box, so right there is $5 saved on shipping. I have an enormous nail keg full of NM brass with the toughest carbon deposit in the primer pockets I've ever seen, so hopefully this method will be its cure. just call them and tell them you want them for tumbling media and the lady knows exactly what to send. very nice and easy to work with. That's all you have to do. The only mention I could find on their site is on the "News" page. My media arrived Thursday or Friday, can't remember that far back! |
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5 pounds was $30.00 shipped from Pellets LLC.
It's their item # SCW-41/.265 Packaged in 5 pound bags. Great people to deal with. Thanks everyone for the info! |
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5 pounds was $30.00 shipped from Pellets LLC. It's their item # SCW-41/.265 Packaged in 5 pound bags. Great people to deal with. Thanks everyone for the info! That's a good price. I paid a little more at Buffalo arms. |
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Who has Best Pricing on the High Speed 140 Model B Rock Tumbler?
Dane |
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Who has Best Pricing on the High Speed 140 Model B Rock Tumbler? Dane Just Google Tumbler model B and make your choice. Sales come and go. |
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On the Thumler website I saw a plastic container tumbler that was cheaper. I'm assuming it would work but want to be sure before I pull the trigger. It's the130 Model A-R 12. Does anyone know?
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Who has Best Pricing on the High Speed 140 Model B Rock Tumbler? Dane Is this the same one? Tumbler If so that is a great price! |
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Does anyone know what Dawn has changed in their formula?
This new Dawn crap is so picky. If you put too much Dawn in, or not enough LemiShine, the cases come out more tarnished than they went in. I never had this problem with an older bottle of Dawn (at least 3 years or older). |
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Isn't the new stuff "concentrated"? Actually it's "Ultra Concentrated"! Just read the bottle by the sink.
I'm guessing you would use less. My tumbler should be here this week so I'll try it hopefully next weekend. |
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Who has Best Pricing on the High Speed 140 Model B Rock Tumbler? Dane Is this the same one? Tumbler If so that is a great price! The add didn't say if the motor is high or low speed. You want the high speed, 3000 rpm motor. That's about the going price. Ignore the " List price, you save" nonsense. |
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What is the life span of the stainless media? It doesn't wear out, just rinse it off and reuse. Over and over. |
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I am hooked. Thanks for pushing me over the edge to get into wet tumbling with all your excellent pictures.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_42/348535_.html |
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I saw your post, and welcome to the Wet Side.
It was TGrant that I blame for getting me started. Thanks TGrant . |
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I just received by high speed tumbler yesterday from Buffalo Arms. I pulled the liner and painted the inside of the drum. I'll be running it for the first time tonight.
I can't wait! |
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Quoted: I just received by high speed tumbler yesterday from Buffalo Arms. I pulled the liner and painted the inside of the drum. I'll be running it for the first time tonight. I can't wait! Just one thing to remember, painting the inside of the drum helps to keep the rust down, but it is not exactly powder coating, and so if you get water down there say when you pour and rinse the media out after a run, and do not take the liner out, the drum will start to rust. Those that do not believe me can wipe their drum out with a paper towel with some WD40 on it and you will see rust on the towel.
Mine is painted and I coat the paint with some spray lithium grease, but I still take the liner out after every run if I don't plan to use it again immediately. |
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I just received by high speed tumbler yesterday from Buffalo Arms. I pulled the liner and painted the inside of the drum. I'll be running it for the first time tonight. I can't wait! Let us know how your batch turned out. Post a pic if you can. |
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I just received by high speed tumbler yesterday from Buffalo Arms. I pulled the liner and painted the inside of the drum. I'll be running it for the first time tonight. I can't wait! Just one thing to remember, painting the inside of the drum helps to keep the rust down, but it is not exactly powder coating, and so if you get water down there say when you pour and rinse the media out after a run, and do not take the liner out, the drum will start to rust. Those that do not believe me can wipe their drum out with a paper towel with some WD40 on it and you will see rust on the towel.
Mine is painted and I coat the paint with some spray lithium grease, but I still take the liner out after every run if I don't plan to use it again immediately. Good to know. I will check my tumblers. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I just received by high speed tumbler yesterday from Buffalo Arms. I pulled the liner and painted the inside of the drum. I'll be running it for the first time tonight. I can't wait! Just one thing to remember, painting the inside of the drum helps to keep the rust down, but it is not exactly powder coating, and so if you get water down there say when you pour and rinse the media out after a run, and do not take the liner out, the drum will start to rust. Those that do not believe me can wipe their drum out with a paper towel with some WD40 on it and you will see rust on the towel. Mine is painted and I coat the paint with some spray lithium grease, but I still take the liner out after every run if I don't plan to use it again immediately. Good to know. I will check my tumblers. One other tip is if you lightly coat the outside of the rubber liner with silicone grease, it will make taking the liner out a little easier. |
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I just received by high speed tumbler yesterday from Buffalo Arms. I pulled the liner and painted the inside of the drum. I'll be running it for the first time tonight. I can't wait! Just one thing to remember, painting the inside of the drum helps to keep the rust down, but it is not exactly powder coating, and so if you get water down there say when you pour and rinse the media out after a run, and do not take the liner out, the drum will start to rust. Those that do not believe me can wipe their drum out with a paper towel with some WD40 on it and you will see rust on the towel.
Mine is painted and I coat the paint with some spray lithium grease, but I still take the liner out after every run if I don't plan to use it again immediately. Good to know. I will check my tumblers. One other tip is if you lightly coat the outside of the rubber liner with silicone grease, it will make taking the liner out a little easier. You are just full of good ideas this morning. |
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Just doing my small share since I have benefited much more in the past from all the great advice from board members. |
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