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Posted: 8/30/2015 2:25:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MILSPEC556]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USAFHobo:
True. I've only had it for like.... a month or so. I do really like it though. I would like to get the magnifier before I consider trading. I'm still going back and forth on what to keep it zeroed at. Isn't the second dot for 200yrds? Assuming the middle dot is zeroed for 100? I need to read the manual again...  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USAFHobo:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By USAFHobo:
Just to add to the EOMcThingy discussion, the one I have now is my first one. The EXPS3-2 actually. It has the second dot under the middle one. (Please don't kill me  ) Haven't really used that second dot yet, but I don't mind it. It is a little cluttered, but its not too bad since the reticle is crisp. Definitely want to pick up a magnifier though.I'd definitely snag a magnifier for it, without it the extra dots are kinda hard to use, esp the 4 dot version. And, you could always put up a WTT ad for a 3-0 True. I've only had it for like.... a month or so. I do really like it though. I would like to get the magnifier before I consider trading. I'm still going back and forth on what to keep it zeroed at. Isn't the second dot for 200yrds? Assuming the middle dot is zeroed for 100? I need to read the manual again... I can't remember what the extra dots are supposed to be zero'd at, but I've always used the mil 25 meter zero with my EOTech's. Most people use the 50 yard zero for a flatter "hit trajectory." 100 yd zeros are for scopes though, so I wouldn't zero the first dot of the EO at 100. I'd do either 25 meters or 50 yds. I should add I've never personally owned the extra dot versions, so in the end I'd do what it says in the manual. Because the second dot changes things (means the first dot HAS to be zero'd at a certain distance for the second to line up where it's supposed to) |
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Posted: 8/30/2015 2:27:17 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanCheese:
Any ballistic specs on that? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanCheese:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By fastfoot:
"I think he meant because it wasn't loaded...... "
DOH!
Oh its loaded cheese......loaded with RIT dye! Any ballistic specs on that? Will stop 7.62 NATO and lesser threats. Provides a devastating wound channel the starts at 1 inch and penetrates to 15 inches.
(Jk foot)
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Posted: 8/30/2015 2:27:36 PM EDT
[#3]
Glitches get stitches
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Posted: 8/30/2015 2:28:52 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Glitches get stitches indeed |
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Posted: 8/30/2015 3:03:00 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
I can't remember what the extra dots are supposed to be zero'd at, but I've always used the mil 25 meter zero with my EOTech's. Most people use the 50 yard zero for a flatter "hit trajectory." 100 yd zeros are for scopes though, so I wouldn't zero the first dot of the EO at 100. I'd do either 25 meters or 50 yds. I should add I've never personally owned the extra dot versions, so in the end I'd do what it says in the manual. Because the second dot changes things (means the first dot HAS to be zero'd at a certain distance for the second to line up where it's supposed to) Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By USAFHobo:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By USAFHobo:
Just to add to the EOMcThingy discussion, the one I have now is my first one. The EXPS3-2 actually. It has the second dot under the middle one. (Please don't kill me ) Haven't really used that second dot yet, but I don't mind it. It is a little cluttered, but its not too bad since the reticle is crisp. Definitely want to pick up a magnifier though.I'd definitely snag a magnifier for it, without it the extra dots are kinda hard to use, esp the 4 dot version. And, you could always put up a WTT ad for a 3-0 True. I've only had it for like.... a month or so. I do really like it though. I would like to get the magnifier before I consider trading. I'm still going back and forth on what to keep it zeroed at. Isn't the second dot for 200yrds? Assuming the middle dot is zeroed for 100? I need to read the manual again... I can't remember what the extra dots are supposed to be zero'd at, but I've always used the mil 25 meter zero with my EOTech's. Most people use the 50 yard zero for a flatter "hit trajectory." 100 yd zeros are for scopes though, so I wouldn't zero the first dot of the EO at 100. I'd do either 25 meters or 50 yds. I should add I've never personally owned the extra dot versions, so in the end I'd do what it says in the manual. Because the second dot changes things (means the first dot HAS to be zero'd at a certain distance for the second to line up where it's supposed to) Yeah I'll have to take a look at it then. I'll probably stick at a 50 yard zero then. |
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Posted: 8/30/2015 3:05:50 PM EDT
[#6]
Yeah in the end I'd zero where the manual wants you to. That way your holds are already pre-calculated, and that will make things so much easier than having to memorize "Kentucky elevation" holds.
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Posted: 8/30/2015 3:24:46 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Will stop 7.62 NATO and lesser threats. Provides a devastating wound channel the starts at 1 inch and penetrates to 15 inches.
(Jk foot) Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By AmericanCheese:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By fastfoot:
"I think he meant because it wasn't loaded...... "
DOH!
Oh its loaded cheese......loaded with RIT dye! Any ballistic specs on that? Will stop 7.62 NATO and lesser threats. Provides a devastating wound channel the starts at 1 inch and penetrates to 15 inches.
(Jk foot) RIT dye is banned for being inhumane by the Geneva Convention for causing serious splatter......
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Posted: 8/30/2015 6:48:01 PM EDT
[#8]
http://www.operationparts.com/knights-armament-carbine-ff-ras/
Is this rail kosher for an early Block II? I picked up a 14.5" M4 barrel and looking to start another clone build. |
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Posted: 8/30/2015 6:54:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MILSPEC556]
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanCheese:
http://www.operationparts.com/knights-armament-carbine-ff-ras/ Is this rail kosher for an early Block II? I picked up a 14.5" M4 barrel and looking to start another clone build. Actually idk what youd call it, but i guess a PR. The PR with car length FF RAS is a bad bitch. |
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Posted: 8/30/2015 7:08:54 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Actually idk what youd call it, but i guess a PR. The PR with car length FF RAS is a bad bitch. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By AmericanCheese:
http://www.operationparts.com/knights-armament-carbine-ff-ras/ Is this rail kosher for an early Block II? I picked up a 14.5" M4 barrel and looking to start another clone build. Actually idk what youd call it, but i guess a PR. The PR with car length FF RAS is a bad bitch. It looks slick, but you can't confuse it with a block II item. |
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Posted: 8/30/2015 7:27:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanCheese]
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stickman:
It looks slick, but you can't confuse it with a block II item. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stickman:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By AmericanCheese:
http://www.operationparts.com/knights-armament-carbine-ff-ras/ Is this rail kosher for an early Block II? I picked up a 14.5" M4 barrel and looking to start another clone build. Actually idk what youd call it, but i guess a PR. The PR with car length FF RAS is a bad bitch. It looks slick, but you can't confuse it with a block II item. The first page of this thread states early Block II's had RIS/RAS rails. Is this referring to the non free float M4 KAC rail like this: http://www.operationparts.com/kac-knights-armament-ras-m-4-carbine-rail-adapter-system-with-three-11-rib-panels/ |
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Posted: 8/30/2015 7:35:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MILSPEC556]
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanCheese:
The first page of this thread states early Block II's had RIS/RAS rails. Is this referring to the non free float M4 KAC rail like this: http://www.operationparts.com/kac-knights-armament-ras-m-4-carbine-rail-adapter-system-with-three-11-rib-panels/ Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanCheese:
Originally Posted By Stickman:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By AmericanCheese:
http://www.operationparts.com/knights-armament-carbine-ff-ras/ Is this rail kosher for an early Block II? I picked up a 14.5" M4 barrel and looking to start another clone build. Actually idk what youd call it, but i guess a PR. The PR with car length FF RAS is a bad bitch. It looks slick, but you can't confuse it with a block II item. The first page of this thread states early Block II's had RIS/RAS rails. Is this referring to the non free float M4 KAC rail like this: http://www.operationparts.com/kac-knights-armament-ras-m-4-carbine-rail-adapter-system-with-three-11-rib-panels/ In reference to the early Block 2 they were speaking of, that's what we call a PR here on this forum. It is basically a block 1 with block II optics/lights/lasers/other accessories, while still using mainly the block 1 rails. (KAC M4 RIS and KAC M4 RAS) We have also seen at least 1 PR with the FF RAS, and it looked fucking awesome. |
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Posted: 8/30/2015 7:51:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanCheese]
[#13]
Good info, so running a KAC FF is kosher? Stick was saying no joy......I think it would look awesome, and seems like a more suitable set up than a drop in/delta ring Block II.
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Posted: 8/30/2015 8:11:40 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanCheese:
Good info, so running a KAC FF is kosher? Stick was saying no joy......I think it would look awesome, and seems like a more suitable set up than a drop in/delta ring Block II. Not on a 14.5" barrel. You could use the FF RAS on a 10.3" CQBR though. |
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Posted: 8/30/2015 8:30:17 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanCheese:
Good info, so running a KAC FF is kosher? Stick was saying no joy......I think it would look awesome, and seems like a more suitable set up than a drop in/delta ring Block II. The only one ive seen was on a 10.3. |
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Posted: 8/30/2015 9:17:28 PM EDT
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switched up the gun a little for the moment until i get another build together that will use this glass, bipod, and stock combo. MR-10, Knight's 98617, Badger rings.
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Posted: 8/30/2015 10:16:45 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SilkyJohnson:
switched up the gun a little for the moment until i get another build together that will use this glass, bipod, and stock combo. MR-10, Knight's 98617, Badger rings. http://i58.tinypic.com/10yna05.jpg Always liked the Block II recce setups. What build are you moving that stuff over to? I've got a 2.5-10x32 NF inbound that'll end up on my Block II until the MK12 Mod1 is done. Can't wait to see what it can do with some good glass on it. |
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Posted: 8/30/2015 10:18:01 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanCheese: Good info, so running a KAC FF is kosher? Stick was saying no joy......I think it would look awesome, and seems like a more suitable set up than a drop in/delta ring Block II. |
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Posted: 8/30/2015 11:31:14 PM EDT
[#19]
There have been a decent number of 14.5" barreled M4A1s with M4 FF RAS out there, particularly in the '03-'05 timeframe.
They were not SOPMOD guns, though. ~Augee |
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Posted: 8/31/2015 4:36:15 PM EDT
[#20]
U.S. Army Rangers with the 75th Ranger Regiment conduct a training raid at the Hohenfels Training Area, Germany during exercise Swift Response 15, Aug. 26, 2015. 
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Posted: 8/31/2015 5:29:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By StevieJ309:
U.S. Army Rangers with the 75th Ranger Regiment conduct a training raid at the Hohenfels Training Area, Germany during exercise Swift Response 15, Aug. 26, 2015. https://farm1.staticflickr.com/625/20854101650_f58853fb07_h.jpg Block II M4A1 with a big ole scope???? (Guy on left)... Yellow cans? I can't see if the bolts are blue.... |
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Posted: 8/31/2015 5:37:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MILSPEC556]
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JJREA:
Block II M4A1 with a big ole scope???? (Guy on left)... Yellow cans? I can't see if the bolts are blue.... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JJREA:
Originally Posted By StevieJ309:
U.S. Army Rangers with the 75th Ranger Regiment conduct a training raid at the Hohenfels Training Area, Germany during exercise Swift Response 15, Aug. 26, 2015. https://farm1.staticflickr.com/625/20854101650_f58853fb07_h.jpg Block II M4A1 with a big ole scope???? (Guy on left)... Yellow cans? I can't see if the bolts are blue.... I also don't know what's up with that. Almost looks like a Surefire SOCOM version of a BFA or somethin' Since the M4A1 BFA is yellow, that's all I can think up. Lol After doing a little research, I'm fairly sure that's what it is. |
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Posted: 8/31/2015 6:08:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: coregon]
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
I also don't know what's up with that. Almost looks like a Surefire SOCOM version of a BFA or somethin' Since the M4A1 BFA is yellow, that's all I can think up. Lol After doing a little research, I'm fairly sure that's what it is. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By JJREA:
Originally Posted By StevieJ309:
U.S. Army Rangers with the 75th Ranger Regiment conduct a training raid at the Hohenfels Training Area, Germany during exercise Swift Response 15, Aug. 26, 2015. https://farm1.staticflickr.com/625/20854101650_f58853fb07_h.jpg Block II M4A1 with a big ole scope???? (Guy on left)... Yellow cans? I can't see if the bolts are blue.... I also don't know what's up with that. Almost looks like a Surefire SOCOM version of a BFA or somethin' Since the M4A1 BFA is yellow, that's all I can think up. Lol After doing a little research, I'm fairly sure that's what it is. Surefire BFA. Same size/weight as a -212A can. |
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Posted: 8/31/2015 6:20:16 PM EDT
[#24]
Anybody ID the scope? Leupold, I think. Mount? It looks as though the mount is backwards, like the cantilevered ring is facing rearward.
I'm planning a recce for my upcoming block ii, non-fsp ris ii FDE build. What should I use for scope & mount? Any other ITW pictures for inspiration? |
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Posted: 8/31/2015 6:35:09 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TurbineBoiler:
Anybody ID the scope? Leupold, I think. Mount? It looks as though the mount is backwards, like the cantilevered ring is facing rearward. I'm planning a recce for my upcoming block ii, non-fsp ris ii FDE build. What should I use for scope & mount? Any other ITW pictures for inspiration? Scope looks like a Leopold MK4 3.5-10x40 with illum. Can't tell what the mount is, though. |
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Posted: 8/31/2015 6:45:30 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TurbineBoiler:
Anybody ID the scope? Leupold, I think. Mount? It looks as though the mount is backwards, like the cantilevered ring is facing rearward. I'm planning a recce for my upcoming block ii, non-fsp ris ii FDE build. What should I use for scope & mount? Any other ITW pictures for inspiration? Well since we're spending your money, I vote for the Elcan like the one on the right. What's not to like about it? Besides that it only goes to 4x? |
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Posted: 8/31/2015 7:28:07 PM EDT
[#27]
glitchy mcfuckerson
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Posted: 8/31/2015 7:29:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ArmedFerret]
[#28]
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ETA: that was one of the ferrets running across the keyboard. 
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Posted: 8/31/2015 8:26:35 PM EDT
[#29]
I can't afford an elcan, JJ. That would require liquidating existing clone stufff...no can do. Also, since I will mostly be using it to shoot things smaller than people, the extra magnification is desirable.
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Posted: 8/31/2015 8:36:48 PM EDT
[#30]
Now I want a surefire BFA
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Posted: 8/31/2015 9:30:32 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TurbineBoiler:
I can't afford an elcan, JJ. That would require liquidating existing clone stufff...no can do. Also, since I will mostly be using it to shoot things smaller than people, the extra magnification is desirable. I hear DAT. 4 x 5. I think. However they say it in on comms in the military. LOL. What am I looking at here? Contractor? Weird recce? M4 with a weird rail? 
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Posted: 8/31/2015 9:58:02 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JJREA:
I hear DAT. 4 x 5. I think. However they say it in on comms in the military. LOL. What am I looking at here? Contractor? Weird recce? M4 with a weird rail? http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o475/NomadABPos/gun%20album%20I%202015/2_zpsfks11k8w.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JJREA:
Originally Posted By TurbineBoiler:
I can't afford an elcan, JJ. That would require liquidating existing clone stufff...no can do. Also, since I will mostly be using it to shoot things smaller than people, the extra magnification is desirable. I hear DAT. 4 x 5. I think. However they say it in on comms in the military. LOL. What am I looking at here? Contractor? Weird recce? M4 with a weird rail? http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o475/NomadABPos/gun%20album%20I%202015/2_zpsfks11k8w.jpg Maybe an Aussie? I think all the other Troy rail equipped rifles I've seen in .mil pictures have been on Aussie guns. |
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Posted: 8/31/2015 10:08:03 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RJeff21:
Maybe an Aussie? I think all the other Troy rail equipped rifles I've seen in .mil pictures have been on Aussie guns. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RJeff21:
Originally Posted By JJREA:
Originally Posted By TurbineBoiler:
I can't afford an elcan, JJ. That would require liquidating existing clone stufff...no can do. Also, since I will mostly be using it to shoot things smaller than people, the extra magnification is desirable. I hear DAT. 4 x 5. I think. However they say it in on comms in the military. LOL. What am I looking at here? Contractor? Weird recce? M4 with a weird rail? http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o475/NomadABPos/gun%20album%20I%202015/2_zpsfks11k8w.jpg Maybe an Aussie? I think all the other Troy rail equipped rifles I've seen in .mil pictures have been on Aussie guns. That was going to be my guess, too. Aussies apparently issued some rifles with troy rails. |
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Posted: 9/1/2015 8:43:48 AM EDT
[#34]
Just a heads up, I'm putting my FDE RIS II on EE. I'm ejecting from the clone project----got some other priorities. |
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Posted: 9/1/2015 10:37:04 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By StevieJ309:
U.S. Army Rangers with the 75th Ranger Regiment conduct a training raid at the Hohenfels Training Area, Germany during exercise Swift Response 15, Aug. 26, 2015. https://farm1.staticflickr.com/625/20854101650_f58853fb07_h.jpg Well, that settles it. Gotta turn my Block II upper into a mini-recce gun. |
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Posted: 9/1/2015 5:51:56 PM EDT
[#36]
As a heads up for my fellow cloners, I have my tan Insight dual switch up in the EE.
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Posted: 9/1/2015 9:23:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TannerB]
[#37]
Mocked up my K, I'm sure some day i'll throw a mount on this rifle.
 20150901_194748-01 by T B, on Flickr
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Posted: 9/1/2015 10:22:44 PM EDT
[#38]
Are AFG2 even clone kosher? i like swapping between that and the KAC. Not much love for the KAC around here...
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Posted: 9/1/2015 10:24:55 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spooled:
Are AFG2 even clone kosher? i like swapping between that and the KAC. Not much love for the KAC around here... Yea afg's are fine. |
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Posted: 9/1/2015 10:31:11 PM EDT
[#40]
Well i moved my aimpoint pro over to an SBR upper and scooped me a SU-231 just now.
My clone is ALMOST done. Just waiting on the form 4... my wallet hurts |
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Posted: 9/1/2015 10:35:20 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spooled:
Well i moved my aimpoint pro over to an SBR upper and scooped me a SU-231 just now. My clone is ALMOST done. Just waiting on the form 4... my wallet hurts Welcome aboard matey. All of our wallets hurt. 
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Posted: 9/1/2015 10:39:25 PM EDT
[#42]
I just hope i like this 553 lol. Will be my first eotech, never even shot with one.
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Posted: 9/1/2015 10:46:22 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spooled:
I just hope i like this 553 lol. Will be my first eotech, never even shot with one. There's no way you couldn't, but if you dont, I may be willing to swap my FDE EXPS3-0 for it. (If it's FDE) |
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Posted: 9/1/2015 10:56:50 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556: There's no way you couldn't, but if you dont, I may be willing to swap my FDE EXPS3-0 for it. (If it's FDE) Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556: Originally Posted By Spooled: I just hope i like this 553 lol. Will be my first eotech, never even shot with one. There's no way you couldn't, but if you dont, I may be willing to swap my FDE EXPS3-0 for it. (If it's FDE) |
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Posted: 9/1/2015 10:58:37 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spooled:
Yea its FDE. After getting laughed at for my brown recievers i make sure to get the right color kit. I do keep rattle can near by though just incase a good deal on a purple APTIAL-c comes up Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spooled:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By Spooled:
I just hope i like this 553 lol. Will be my first eotech, never even shot with one. There's no way you couldn't, but if you dont, I may be willing to swap my FDE EXPS3-0 for it. (If it's FDE) Lol was that you with the badass setup minus brown receivers? Definitely just needs paint.  []**
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Posted: 9/1/2015 11:05:50 PM EDT
[#46]
Its been painted for a while now. I replaced the barrel to a BCM SOCOM.
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Posted: 9/2/2015 1:18:55 AM EDT
[#47]
Block II helping herself to the Taco Tuesday festivities
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Posted: 9/2/2015 2:00:25 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gaston4:
Block II helping herself to the Taco Tuesday festivities
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5671/21077776305_c2b45e3709_c.jpg The only thing that would make this pic better is if it was high life instead of light.
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Posted: 9/2/2015 2:13:09 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
The only thing that would make this pic better is if it was high life instead of light. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By gaston4:
Block II helping herself to the Taco Tuesday festivities
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5671/21077776305_c2b45e3709_c.jpg The only thing that would make this pic better is if it was high life instead of light. I knew I would take shit about the beer... but as a college student who spends most of his money on clones I take what I can get 
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Posted: 9/2/2015 2:17:45 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gaston4:
I knew I would take shit about the beer... but as a college student who spends most of his money on clones I take what I can get
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gaston4:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By gaston4:
Block II helping herself to the Taco Tuesday festivities
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5671/21077776305_c2b45e3709_c.jpg The only thing that would make this pic better is if it was high life instead of light. I knew I would take shit about the beer... but as a college student who spends most of his money on clones I take what I can get
Dude, I totally feel that.
Is miller lite cheaper than high life? I thought they were same price |
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