I've heard about these "detention centers", but have never seen one.  Has anyone ever laid eyes on one or is it just a myth?

This is the name that FEMA will use for their camps.  Make it seem like a summer camp and it will keep the people happy, thinking they're only there for a short stay.  Joke will be on them, however, when they have to salute the flag of the NWO.

Tell where to look and I'll check.

I think they're just wharehouses and conex yards where they store medical supplies and emergency rations. Not so different from your average arfcommer's basement.

I have seen them....

Dunno.... I guess we might find out sooner then later....when they round us all up!.




I GET TOP BUNK!!!!!!

wish i could find a better conspiracy pic

Of course you haven't seen one, they're invisible.

IN !

This has been way overblown they are actually just bigrfoot training camps.

They all have a big sign out front that says "KOA".

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/fema.html

http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004/FEMA-Concentration-Camps3sep04.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P-hvPJPTi4

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_FEMA02.htm

This.

Plus, there are "buildings of opportunity"––empty walmarts, malls, etc. that can be use for emergency shelters for evacuees, but to term anything as a "detention" camp would be tin foil crap. We have these shelters and warehouses in San Antonio because we are a hub for both hurricane response and evacuee sheltering.

pato

       

On the serious side, I had never actually heard the bullshit until yesterday in a thread here.  So search for it.  There was a thread just yestereday that included links to a spot Glenn Beck did w/ Popular Mechanics who debunjked it.  Basically, some tinfoil het type guy took a bunch of pics of other stuf, North Korean work camps, train repair facility, etc, and said they were FEMA detention camps.  I don;t know why I am even writing this.  Anybody that thinks that FEMA is going to run detention camps for American citizens needs more help than I can provide.  Google it buddy, the innernets are your friends.

Ummmmmmmmm  think Superdome NOLA. Everything else is speculation.

Fema camps are

I googled, youtubed, AND yahooed it.  I'm just curious to see if anyone here has ever seen one for themselves.  

I love a good conspiracy theory but the FEMA camp one is easy to debunk.  I've actually visited the supposed FEMA camps in KY and I can say there is NOTHING to report.

Maybe the whole scenario was actually war gamed by some think tank as a 'how to' excercise but there is nothing on the ground.

This

The FEMA "concentration camps" are a bullshit wet dream of some tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy nitwit.

Let me start by saying that I'm not making any statements about what this is for, but here's the bill that's got everyone up in arms, with link to the Library of Congress's THOMAS website, which lets you read legislation working its way through congress. Take from this what you will:

111th Congress, H.R. 645, National Emergency Centers Establishment Act

ETA: PDF download of the bill from the Government Printing Office

A quick quote from the text of the bill sposored by Rep. Alcee Hastings, Rep. Artur Davis, and Rep. Jim Gerlach:



(edited to add Sec. 3(c) and highlight things that are, rightly or wrongly, making people crazy)

Thats what I expected.  There's supposedly one north of Houston but I'm not wasting gas to check it out.  It sounded far fetched.

I had some guy try to tell me they had one of these at Ft. Stewart.  He went into great detail and sounded very convincing. But he didn't realize who he was talking to.  He didn't like it when I told them I'd never seen any evidence of such a thing in all my years of training at Ft. Stewart,  and the fact that outside of my military training;  I'm familiar with most of the 280,000 acres since I've hunted deer and hogs there for years.  Until I see one with my own eyes,  I have to call:

I was a counselor at one for a few summers over in the olympics, it was pretty fun. We did basket weaving and all sorts of fun stuff.
Also worked at one called "Camp Re-fu-Gee"

Your ignorance must be like a warm blanket to you.

news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=eed74d9d44c30493706fe03f4c9b3a77

www.alternet.org/rights/42458/

Just follow the FEMA trains if you want to see one.



Hint:  They are the ones with cars inside.

IN on 1!



Edit: And away we go!

the voices direct you to them

There is a civilian inmate program at several bases to include Ft. Stewart. It is completely above board. People hear things and get confused.

Ever notice weird things happening to a compass when you are on Camp Swampy? Like 15 degrees of deflection from here to there just ten feet away? I always wondered what that was about.

Do tell

Dude, what exactly do you think the former Kelly AFB in San Antonio is?
A CLOSED military installation!!!!
So, the Feds push supplies forward and house them in the old military warehouses so that they csn be deployed forward to an affected area quicker, thus avoiding a NOLA style screw up.

What better use for a closed military installation with all of that space than to warehouse response equipment and goods and set up sheltering for evacuees?

pato

Speaking of ignorance.    

Sounds to me like they are trying to set up centers to coordinate relief, i.e. Incident Command posts, with supplies.



Closed military installations are alread owned by the government and have lots of space for the IC and storage.
 

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Are you serious????

Popular Mechanics debunks FEMA camps

 

Oh my god, they are building camps to hold Bush's thousands of detainees!!!!  

Oh, wait, Bush is gone.  The detainees never materialized.

Do you have any references to sites that have updated since 2006?

I give this

out of

Dammit its BOOOOOOOOOSHES FAULT!!!!!!!!!!!
the derangement continues

Are you trying to claim that the contract was never awarded? It is in the federal register. Do some research.

"I was just told that there are roads being shut down and a hospital is under quarantine in New Orleans."
 

Psssssst.......... Bush isn't President. Haliburton is a service company and a construction company.  Read the top portion of what you linked to. An Agenda maybe,, yes?????

Every time someone brings up FEMA camps, they are accused of tin foiling and told that could never happen.
But I can take a 15 minute drive from my house to a former Japanese internment camp. They were the “enemies within”  WWII.
So it has happened before, who is to say it will not happen again? And who is it to say it won’t be you who is deemed the “enemy within” next time?
Those who ignore history are condemned to see it repeated.

What is in the last week around here. Every freaking nut around is coming out of the bushes.

So I'm actually reading some legislation for something I'm writing, and if the conspiracy guys actually read the Military Commissions Act of 2006 (as passed by the House and Senate), they would see that Sec. 948c says:



I don't have time to sit here and sift through the entire bill, but Sec. 948c seems to contradict what the article says.  I'm all for distrust of government, but still...

I have no opinion.  As my post said, "Let me start by saying that I'm not making any statements about what this is for, but here's the bill that's got everyone up in arms." I imagine the perceived SNFU over NOLA is a good reason why this legislation is in congress. Four years after Katrina, new administration comes in and doesn't want a NOLA type situation blowing up on their watch. There you go.

Somebody show me some pics that they took. Not youtube bullshit.