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Posted: 7/26/2009 8:46:29 AM EDT

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What is in the last week around here. Every freaking nut around is coming out of the bushes.

It's trolling.

I'm making heavy use of the 'ignore' feature for the conspiracy nuts.

Posted: 7/26/2009 8:51:03 AM EDT

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One of my favorites was the "Prison Camp" they built on the reservation of Ft Dix NJ..of course what the Tin-Foilers fail to mention is that that "Prison Camp" is in actuality :Southern State Priosn", part of the NJDOC system, built on land granted to the state when the feds reduced the size of Ft Dix. ALL of those things can be easily explained..to people who actually want explanations that is.

Posted: 7/26/2009 8:52:08 AM EDT

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Every time someone brings up FEMA camps, they are accused of tin foiling and told that could never happen.
But I can take a 15 minute drive from my house to a former Japanese internment camp. They were the “enemies within” WWII.
So it has happened before, who is to say it will not happen again? And who is it to say it won’t be you who is deemed the “enemy within” next time?
Those who ignore history are condemned to see it repeated.

The world has changed since then. In fact, had any serious opposition to the interment of Japanese been expressed, that plan would have likely fallen through also. Folks in the 30's and 40's still had faith in their government to do the right thing, that "top men" were in charge. Being suddenly at war re-enforced that illusion. Nowadays, you'd have a flash mob in 30 minutes if they started rounding up hippies.

I won't say it can't happen here, but America is a very different place than in 1942. An much better armed on the civilian level, don't forget.

And to preempt the "you'll all go quietly" crowd: Fuck you. we know your spines are yellow, why shit in this thread?

Posted: 7/26/2009 8:52:22 AM EDT

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What is in the last week around here. Every freaking nut around is coming out of the bushes.

It's trolling.

I'm making heavy use of the 'ignore' feature for the conspiracy nuts.

Dude Don't you see Boooooosh and the joooooz are gonna take their liberty away.......

Drag them out of their Moms basement and into the camps.

Posted: 7/26/2009 8:58:42 AM EDT

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I think they're just wharehouses and conex yards where they store medical supplies and emergency rations. Not so different from your average arfcommer's basement.

This.

Plus, there are "buildings of opportunity"––empty walmarts, malls, etc. that can be use for emergency shelters for evacuees, but to term anything as a "detention" camp would be tin foil crap. We have these shelters and warehouses in San Antonio because we are a hub for both hurricane response and evacuee sheltering.

pato

Stadiums and sports arenas. Already designed for limited entry/exit. Easily modified for mass detension in a few hours.

Posted: 7/26/2009 9:13:21 AM EDT

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Every time someone brings up FEMA camps, they are accused of tin foiling and told that could never happen.
But I can take a 15 minute drive from my house to a former Japanese internment camp. They were the “enemies within” WWII.
So it has happened before, who is to say it will not happen again? And who is it to say it won’t be you who is deemed the “enemy within” next time?
Those who ignore history are condemned to see it repeated.

this bears repeating.

Posted: 7/26/2009 9:15:21 AM EDT

[#7]

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I think they're just wharehouses and conex yards where they store medical supplies and emergency rations. Not so different from your average arfcommer's basement.

This.

Plus, there are "buildings of opportunity"––empty walmarts, malls, etc. that can be use for emergency shelters for evacuees, but to term anything as a "detention" camp would be tin foil crap. We have these shelters and warehouses in San Antonio because we are a hub for both hurricane response and evacuee sheltering.

pato

Stadiums and sports arenas. Already designed for limited entry/exit. Easily modified for mass detension in a few hours.

Dear God. Can you imagine being stuck in Safeco Field with tens of thousands of people all eating garlic fries?

Posted: 7/26/2009 9:17:04 AM EDT

[#8]

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Every time someone brings up FEMA camps, they are accused of tin foiling and told that could never happen.
But I can take a 15 minute drive from my house to a former Japanese internment camp. They were the “enemies within” WWII.
So it has happened before, who is to say it will not happen again? And who is it to say it won’t be you who is deemed the “enemy within” next time?
Those who ignore history are condemned to see it repeated.

this bears repeating.

I have another question, Why is the barb wire facing in on most of these camps?

Posted: 7/26/2009 9:21:06 AM EDT

[#9]

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I think they're just wharehouses and conex yards where they store medical supplies and emergency rations. Not so different from your average arfcommer's basement.

This.

Plus, there are "buildings of opportunity"––empty walmarts, malls, etc. that can be use for emergency shelters for evacuees, but to term anything as a "detention" camp would be tin foil crap. We have these shelters and warehouses in San Antonio because we are a hub for both hurricane response and evacuee sheltering.

pato

Stadiums and sports arenas. Already designed for limited entry/exit. Easily modified for mass detension in a few hours.

Dear God. Can you imagine being stuck in Safeco Field with tens of thousands of people all eating garlic fries?

So we're all going to be lined up against the Green Monster in Fenway Park and shot?

Posted: 7/26/2009 9:39:31 AM EDT

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Posted: 7/26/2009 9:44:07 AM EDT

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I think they're just wharehouses and conex yards where they store medical supplies and emergency rations. Not so different from your average arfcommer's basement.

This.

Plus, there are "buildings of opportunity"––empty walmarts, malls, etc. that can be use for emergency shelters for evacuees, but to term anything as a "detention" camp would be tin foil crap. We have these shelters and warehouses in San Antonio because we are a hub for both hurricane response and evacuee sheltering.

pato

Stadiums and sports arenas. Already designed for limited entry/exit. Easily modified for mass detension in a few hours.

Dear God. Can you imagine being stuck in Safeco Field with tens of thousands of people all eating garlic fries?

So we're all going to be lined up against the Green Monster in Fenway Park and shot?

Now you know the true purpose of the Jimmy Fund! It's to KILL US ALL!!!!!!!11

Posted: 7/26/2009 9:59:28 AM EDT

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The FEMA "concentration camps" are a bullshit wet dream of some tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy nitwit.

Your ignorance must be like a warm blanket to you.

news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=eed74d9d44c30493706fe03f4c9b3a77

www.alternet.org/rights/42458/

Posted: 7/26/2009 10:22:40 AM EDT

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I've heard about these "detention centers", but have never seen one. Has anyone ever laid eyes on one or is it just a myth?

Posted: 7/26/2009 10:23:30 AM EDT

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I've heard about these "detention centers", but have never seen one. Has anyone ever laid eyes on one or is it just a myth?

They are true and I already called top bunk.

Posted: 7/26/2009 10:36:03 AM EDT

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http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j114/humanplus/fry-hutch.jpg

what episode is this??

Posted: 7/26/2009 2:16:38 PM EDT

[#16]

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Every time someone brings up FEMA camps, they are accused of tin foiling and told that could never happen.
But I can take a 15 minute drive from my house to a former Japanese internment camp. They were the “enemies within” WWII.
So it has happened before, who is to say it will not happen again? And who is it to say it won’t be you who is deemed the “enemy within” next time?
Those who ignore history are condemned to see it repeated.

this bears repeating.

I have another question, Why is the barb wire facing in on most of these camps?

Please feel free to post a pic of the camps with the barb wire facing in.

Posted: 7/26/2009 2:18:08 PM EDT

[#17]

Whenever you ask about the FEMA camps, the terrorists win!!!

Posted: 7/26/2009 2:24:12 PM EDT

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"I was just told that there are roads being shut down and a hospital is under quarantine in New Orleans."

And it was so.

Posted: 7/26/2009 2:59:41 PM EDT

[#19]

I've been hearing of FEMA camps since Carter was president. If there are camps even the people at FEMA don't know about them.

Posted: 7/26/2009 3:09:41 PM EDT

[#20]

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I've heard about these "detention centers", but have never seen one.

Of course you haven't seen one, they're invisible.

BEAT ME TO IT

Posted: 7/26/2009 3:26:13 PM EDT

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I have seen them....

the voices direct you to them

Yep do they talk to you too

Posted: 7/26/2009 4:20:04 PM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Every time someone brings up FEMA camps, they are accused of tin foiling and told that could never happen.
But I can take a 15 minute drive from my house to a former Japanese internment camp. They were the “enemies within” WWII.
So it has happened before, who is to say it will not happen again? And who is it to say it won’t be you who is deemed the “enemy within” next time?
Those who ignore history are condemned to see it repeated.

this bears repeating.

I have another question, Why is the barb wire facing in on most of these camps?

Please feel free to post a pic of the camps with the barb wire facing in.

Ok, if the one of the supposed train refit yard is what they say it is why is the barb wire facing in? I've seen rail yards around IL with wire facing out or both ways but never just facing in. Seriously is there a reason for the wire to face this way?

Posted: 7/26/2009 4:24:37 PM EDT

[#23]

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Quoted:
Every time someone brings up FEMA camps, they are accused of tin foiling and told that could never happen.
But I can take a 15 minute drive from my house to a former Japanese internment camp. They were the “enemies within” WWII.
So it has happened before, who is to say it will not happen again? And who is it to say it won’t be you who is deemed the “enemy within” next time?
Those who ignore history are condemned to see it repeated.

this bears repeating.

I have another question, Why is the barb wire facing in on most of these camps?

Please feel free to post a pic of the camps with the barb wire facing in.

Ok, if the one of the supposed train refit yard is what they say it is why is the barb wire facing in? I've seen rail yards around IL with wire facing out or both ways but never just facing in. Seriously is there a reason for the wire to face this way?

Like to post the pics or just run with that BS?

Posted: 7/26/2009 4:44:14 PM EDT

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Posted: 7/26/2009 4:54:15 PM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Every time someone brings up FEMA camps, they are accused of tin foiling and told that could never happen.
But I can take a 15 minute drive from my house to a former Japanese internment camp. They were the “enemies within” WWII.
So it has happened before, who is to say it will not happen again? And who is it to say it won’t be you who is deemed the “enemy within” next time?
Those who ignore history are condemned to see it repeated.

this bears repeating.

I have another question, Why is the barb wire facing in on most of these camps?

Please feel free to post a pic of the camps with the barb wire facing in.

Ok, if the one of the supposed train refit yard is what they say it is why is the barb wire facing in? I've seen rail yards around IL with wire facing out or both ways but never just facing in. Seriously is there a reason for the wire to face this way?

It could be a super-secret plan involving lots of top-secret planning to take a rail refit facility, crowded with millions of "tools" and building parts that could be used as weapons making it a shitty choice for a prison, and use it to imprison thousands of Americans. Luckily this plan was discovered by brave patriots who just happen to "discover" these things and sell DVD's, website memberships, and books about it.

Or, it could be a government contractor and the illegal aliens he had doing the work messed something up.

Naah, barbed wire facing the wrong way couldn't mean it was installed by an incompetent contractor with workers who don't know english. Impossible. Such a thing has never happened before in the history of contracting or government It has to mean there is a deep and vast conspiracy to someday make it into a secret prison that could only be discovered by mega patriots who depend on people to keep sending money to keep "discovering" these things

Or, heck, it could be that they have more to worry about from theft by the union employees tossing stuff out than they do about people trying to get in.

Posted: 7/26/2009 4:56:50 PM EDT

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I used to "live" at a FEMA site; not too bad had a pool table, private weight room and hot tub. The FEMA refugee camps i've worked at resembled a collection of Jerry Springer guests.

There are no FEMA death camps either, only sites for storage, disaster response, or housing.

Posted: 7/26/2009 4:57:07 PM EDT

[#27]

I have seen probably a dozen various "lists" of these facilities circulated by the "mega-patriots".

Every list has at least a few places of facilities I have been to, seen with my own eyes, and know is bullshit.

If so far 100% of the places I have visited, from 100% of the lists, is bullshit, that is quite a track record. Of epic bullshit.

But fools will still take the bait hook, line and sinker.

Posted: 7/26/2009 4:59:57 PM EDT

[#28]

I run one. Lots of twinkies and frostys. You'll have a delightful selection of televised entertainment. We have an great archive of Obama interviews to go along with scores of dvds from Mao, Marx, and Minh. We're currently featuring a summer softball league. On it we'll have mixed teams of race, sex, religion, and age. We don't keep score because everybody is a winner!

A prius in every garage, tofu in every fridge, and food stamps in every wallet. Medical care will come from our nations finest people that didn't want jobs where they could make money. Don't you worry one bit, our doctors weren't chosen for their intelligence, apptitude, or skill, they were chosen so they could equally represent all ethnic and religious group, oh, the gays too.

Everyone has a job. For your job well done you'll receive vouchers for a standard grocery package and residence in a dorm. For those that don't want to work, you don't have to. You'll be given a condo on the beach complete with maid, access to a grocery store, and a very nice car. Your choice of year cadillac with extra large wheels and speaker system.

Our justice system is great, minorities aren't ever arrested because that would be unfair, when someone is convicted of a crime, they're instantly forgiven, and hugged because obviously criminals are created by society. Our motto is "working to rehabilitate, not punish" Those who violate children are placed on a list. Membership on this list guarantees that the people on it absolutely will not ever be treated unfairly. If one is to treat them unfairly, they'll recieve sensitivity training.

I hope to welcome each of you to my worker's paradise.

Posted: 7/26/2009 11:23:21 PM EDT

[#29]

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I have seen them....

the voices direct you to them

Yep do they talk to you too

They say "turn off the porn, you're killing kittens"

Posted: 7/26/2009 11:52:00 PM EDT

[#30]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Every time someone brings up FEMA camps, they are accused of tin foiling and told that could never happen.

But I can take a 15 minute drive from my house to a former Japanese internment camp. They were the “enemies within” WWII.

So it has happened before, who is to say it will not happen again? And who is it to say it won’t be you who is deemed the “enemy within” next time?

Those who ignore history are condemned to see it repeated.

this bears repeating.

I have another question, Why is the barb wire facing in on most of these camps?

Please feel free to post a pic of the camps with the barb wire facing in.

Ok, if the one of the supposed train refit yard is what they say it is why is the barb wire facing in? I've seen rail yards around IL with wire facing out or both ways but never just facing in. Seriously is there a reason for the wire to face this way?

Out or in, keeps people from stealing shit just as well...

Posted: 7/27/2009 1:43:01 AM EDT

[#31]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Every time someone brings up FEMA camps, they are accused of tin foiling and told that could never happen.
But I can take a 15 minute drive from my house to a former Japanese internment camp. They were the “enemies within” WWII.
So it has happened before, who is to say it will not happen again? And who is it to say it won’t be you who is deemed the “enemy within” next time?
Those who ignore history are condemned to see it repeated.

this bears repeating.

I have another question, Why is the barb wire facing in on most of these camps?

Please feel free to post a pic of the camps with the barb wire facing in.

Ok, if the one of the supposed train refit yard is what they say it is why is the barb wire facing in? I've seen rail yards around IL with wire facing out or both ways but never just facing in. Seriously is there a reason for the wire to face this way?

Out or in, keeps people from stealing shit just as well...

retard government contractors can't put fences up right

. the most simple solution as often the right one.

you really think FEMA or the government could keep a secret? look at all the idiots in washington/running federal agencies; they couldn't keep anything secret for very long

Posted: 7/27/2009 1:49:26 AM EDT

[#32]

i work at one of those camps, they don't exist

Posted: 7/27/2009 1:55:40 AM EDT

[#33]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Every time someone brings up FEMA camps, they are accused of tin foiling and told that could never happen.

But I can take a 15 minute drive from my house to a former Japanese internment camp. They were the “enemies within” WWII.

So it has happened before, who is to say it will not happen again? And who is it to say it won’t be you who is deemed the “enemy within” next time?

Those who ignore history are condemned to see it repeated.

this bears repeating.

I have another question, Why is the barb wire facing in on most of these camps?

Please feel free to post a pic of the camps with the barb wire facing in.

Ok, if the one of the supposed train refit yard is what they say it is why is the barb wire facing in? I've seen rail yards around IL with wire facing out or both ways but never just facing in. Seriously is there a reason for the wire to face this way?

Out or in, keeps people from stealing shit just as well...

retard government contractors can't put fences up right

. the most simple solution as often the right one.

you really think FEMA or the government could keep a secret? look at all the idiots in washington/running federal agencies; they couldn't keep anything secret for very long

Hey...

I'm not the camp-believer here...

Just making a point - if your goal is to keep the shit that's inside the fenceline inside, which way the barbed wire is pointing makes little difference - either the thief can't get in easily, or he can't get out with whatever he's stealing...

'Barbed wire in' is like 'LACES OUT!' from Ace Ventura...

The only folks who think it matters are the conspiracy froots...

P.S. if it's a rail yard, that wire was put up by the RR, not the govt...

Posted: 7/27/2009 9:16:13 AM EDT

[#34]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Every time someone brings up FEMA camps, they are accused of tin foiling and told that could never happen.
But I can take a 15 minute drive from my house to a former Japanese internment camp. They were the “enemies within” WWII.
So it has happened before, who is to say it will not happen again? And who is it to say it won’t be you who is deemed the “enemy within” next time?
Those who ignore history are condemned to see it repeated.

this bears repeating.

I have another question, Why is the barb wire facing in on most of these camps?

Please feel free to post a pic of the camps with the barb wire facing in.

Ok, if the one of the supposed train refit yard is what they say it is why is the barb wire facing in? I've seen rail yards around IL with wire facing out or both ways but never just facing in. Seriously is there a reason for the wire to face this way?

Out or in, keeps people from stealing shit just as well...

retard government contractors can't put fences up right

. the most simple solution as often the right one.

you really think FEMA or the government could keep a secret? look at all the idiots in washington/running federal agencies; they couldn't keep anything secret for very long

Hey...

I'm not the camp-believer here...

Just making a point - if your goal is to keep the shit that's inside the fenceline inside, which way the barbed wire is pointing makes little difference - either the thief can't get in easily, or he can't get out with whatever he's stealing...

'Barbed wire in' is like 'LACES OUT!' from Ace Ventura...

The only folks who think it matters are the conspiracy froots...

P.S. if it's a rail yard, that wire was put up by the RR, not the govt...

You may have a point, but how many in the armed forces, civilian sector, and government knew about the SR71, F22, B2, and the Manhattan Project? I've seen estimates that at least 130,000 were involved in the Manhattan Project alone. My point is that our beloved government can keep a secret when it deems it necessary to. I doubt that the so called FEEMA camps are camps at all. But I do believe that if the government was doing something they wanted us not to know about they could do it and we just wouldn't know about it.

Posted: 7/27/2009 12:15:47 PM EDT

[#35]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Every time someone brings up FEMA camps, they are accused of tin foiling and told that could never happen.
But I can take a 15 minute drive from my house to a former Japanese internment camp. They were the “enemies within” WWII.
So it has happened before, who is to say it will not happen again? And who is it to say it won’t be you who is deemed the “enemy within” next time?
Those who ignore history are condemned to see it repeated.

this bears repeating.

I have another question, Why is the barb wire facing in on most of these camps?

Please feel free to post a pic of the camps with the barb wire facing in.

Ok, if the one of the supposed train refit yard is what they say it is why is the barb wire facing in? I've seen rail yards around IL with wire facing out or both ways but never just facing in. Seriously is there a reason for the wire to face this way?

Out or in, keeps people from stealing shit just as well...

retard government contractors can't put fences up right

. the most simple solution as often the right one.

you really think FEMA or the government could keep a secret? look at all the idiots in washington/running federal agencies; they couldn't keep anything secret for very long

Hey...

I'm not the camp-believer here...

Just making a point - if your goal is to keep the shit that's inside the fenceline inside, which way the barbed wire is pointing makes little difference - either the thief can't get in easily, or he can't get out with whatever he's stealing...

'Barbed wire in' is like 'LACES OUT!' from Ace Ventura...

The only folks who think it matters are the conspiracy froots...

P.S. if it's a rail yard, that wire was put up by the RR, not the govt...

You may have a point, but how many in the armed forces, civilian sector, and government knew about the SR71, F22, B2, and the Manhattan Project? I've seen estimates that at least 130,000 were involved in the Manhattan Project alone. My point is that our beloved government can keep a secret when it deems it necessary to. I doubt that the so called FEEMA camps are camps at all. But I do believe that if the government was doing something they wanted us not to know about they could do it and we just wouldn't know about it.

not anymore

Posted: 7/27/2009 12:32:47 PM EDT

[#36]

FEMA camps are another one of the most special brand of conspiracy theory. The kind that are very difficult to pull off, very difficult to keep secret, and provide the conspirators no benefit whatsoever.

Posted: 7/27/2009 12:45:47 PM EDT

[#37]

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You may have a point, but how many in the armed forces, civilian sector, and government knew about the SR71, F22, B2, and the Manhattan Project? I've seen estimates that at least 130,000 were involved in the Manhattan Project alone. My point is that our beloved government can keep a secret when it deems it necessary to. I doubt that the so called FEEMA camps are camps at all. But I do believe that if the government was doing something they wanted us not to know about they could do it and we just wouldn't know about it.

Problem is your point is wrong the Government cannot keep secrets. The SR71, F22, B2 were all short term (in years) design project that were eventually not secret or never were secret.

The SR71 project was secret for a very short time, the F22 was never secret, the B2 is a prime example you are wrong it was a open secret for years everyone knew it existed they just did not know exactly what it looked like. The Manhattan Project leaked the freaking Soviets penetrated the program.

Keeping something secret a couple years maybe, short term small scale maybe, never big or long term.

Posted: 7/27/2009 1:05:23 PM EDT

[#38]

What on earth does "inward facing" barb wire look like? That is, how is it any different from "outward facing"

Posted: 7/27/2009 1:30:34 PM EDT

[#39]

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Every time someone brings up FEMA camps, they are accused of tin foiling and told that could never happen.
But I can take a 15 minute drive from my house to a former Japanese internment camp. They were the “enemies within” WWII.
So it has happened before, who is to say it will not happen again? And who is it to say it won’t be you who is deemed the “enemy within” next time?
Those who ignore history are condemned to see it repeated.

this bears repeating.

Ok ya froot loops, there are around 17,000 FEMA employees. Just how many people do you think these 17,000 employees could arrest, transport, and imprison in the very low-security looking facilities?

I've given you a solid number. 17,000. I won't even cut that number down by eliminating the admin folks who couldn't be fielded to support some sort of internment, nor will whittle it down to the number of people who could possibly be trained, equipped, and armed to conduct such an operation.

Give me a realisitic hard number. How many people could 17,000 FEMA employees imprison?

If we don't hear from you, we will understand.

Posted: 7/27/2009 1:30:47 PM EDT

[#40]

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You may have a point, but how many in the armed forces, civilian sector, and government knew about the SR71, F22, B2, and the Manhattan Project? I've seen estimates that at least 130,000 were involved in the Manhattan Project alone. My point is that our beloved government can keep a secret when it deems it necessary to. I doubt that the so called FEEMA camps are camps at all. But I do believe that if the government was doing something they wanted us not to know about they could do it and we just wouldn't know about it.

All those were programs designed for national security, that all could see were good for the country to be kept secret. That was good incentive to keep them as secret as they were (that was not very).

The very same people would look at a plan to imprison mass amounts of the US population and say "hell no" and both refuse to play and break the story.

You can only keep a large program relatively secret if all who encounter it can clearly see the program is a good thing for the country and therefore they have a reason to keep the secret.

Posted: 7/27/2009 1:48:27 PM EDT

[#41]

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What on earth does "inward facing" barb wire look like? That is, how is it any different from "outward facing"

They are talking about the angled 'fence topper' braces, that string barbed wire at a 45-degree angle to the vertical fencing....

It is designed to keep people from climbing the fence....

For folks who have never dealt with barbed wire, they assume that if the toppers & wire are pointing inward, it is only good for keeping people inside....

Of course, a rational person would realize that most private corporations (like, say, a railroad) put up fence/wire to keep their shit from being stolen... And that if the thief cannot climb back over the wire with his loot, the wire has done it's job....

Posted: 7/27/2009 2:04:01 PM EDT

[#42]

I work in public safety, and as such, work with FEMA. I also live down the road <30 miles from one of the 'camps". I drove past that big field a few years ago, and they had a bazillion tents set up, but no wire.

About 10 years ago, we had a cat 5 bearing down on us, and the cone of probability spread from Jacksonvill to Colombia when the mandatory evac order came down. We loaded folks in buses and drove them west. Where we were going, no one knew. Every school gym, outhouse, henhouse, cathouse, and motel was full from the half million 'refugees'.

It seems that after that fiasco, and the NOLA mess, folks whose jobs are to coordinate these activities, and plan for them, and mitigate the human discomfort that a large scale disaster and subsequent temporary relocation would have, are doing a fair job.

Posted: 7/27/2009 2:21:23 PM EDT

[#43]

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What on earth does "inward facing" barb wire look like? That is, how is it any different from "outward facing"

They are talking about the angled 'fence topper' braces, that string barbed wire at a 45-degree angle to the vertical fencing....

It is designed to keep people from climbing the fence....

For folks who have never dealt with barbed wire, they assume that if the toppers & wire are pointing inward, it is only good for keeping people inside....

Of course, a rational person would realize that most private corporations (like, say, a railroad) put up fence/wire to keep their shit from being stolen... And that if the thief cannot climb back over the wire with his loot, the wire has done it's job....

Not to mention the fact that some of the "barbed wire footage" was filmed from the INSIDE of a parking lot, looking OUT... in an attempt to make people believe it was filmed from the OUTSIDE of a so called "FEMA CAMP", looking in.

Posted: 7/27/2009 2:32:08 PM EDT

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What on earth does "inward facing" barb wire look like? That is, how is it any different from "outward facing"

They are talking about the angled 'fence topper' braces, that string barbed wire at a 45-degree angle to the vertical fencing....

It is designed to keep people from climbing the fence....

For folks who have never dealt with barbed wire, they assume that if the toppers & wire are pointing inward, it is only good for keeping people inside....

Of course, a rational person would realize that most private corporations (like, say, a railroad) put up fence/wire to keep their shit from being stolen... And that if the thief cannot climb back over the wire with his loot, the wire has done it's job....

Ah this stuff. I thought it really didnt make any difference which way that stuff pointed.

Posted: 7/27/2009 3:14:27 PM EDT

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Every time someone brings up FEMA camps, they are accused of tin foiling and told that could never happen.
But I can take a 15 minute drive from my house to a former Japanese internment camp. They were the “enemies within” WWII.
So it has happened before, who is to say it will not happen again? And who is it to say it won’t be you who is deemed the “enemy within” next time?
Those who ignore history are condemned to see it repeated.

ask the American Indians also

Posted: 7/27/2009 3:53:01 PM EDT

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Every time someone brings up FEMA camps, they are accused of tin foiling and told that could never happen.
But I can take a 15 minute drive from my house to a former Japanese internment camp. They were the “enemies within” WWII.
So it has happened before, who is to say it will not happen again? And who is it to say it won’t be you who is deemed the “enemy within” next time?
Those who ignore history are condemned to see it repeated.

ask the American Indians also

Ask the Cherokees Hell, ask the thousand POWs from the Civil War, from both sides.

Posted: 7/27/2009 4:09:32 PM EDT

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You may have a point, but how many in the armed forces, civilian sector, and government knew about the SR71, F22, B2, and the Manhattan Project? I've seen estimates that at least 130,000 were involved in the Manhattan Project alone. My point is that our beloved government can keep a secret when it deems it necessary to. I doubt that the so called FEEMA camps are camps at all. But I do believe that if the government was doing something they wanted us not to know about they could do it and we just wouldn't know about it.

Originally Posted By Max_Mike
Problem is your point is wrong the Government cannot keep secrets. The SR71, F22, B2 were all short term (in years) design project that were eventually not secret or never were secret.

The SR71 project was secret for a very short time, the F22 was never secret, the B2 is a prime example you are wrong it was a open secret for years everyone knew it existed they just did not know exactly what it looked like. The Manhattan Project leaked the freaking Soviets penetrated the program.

Keeping something secret a couple years maybe, short term small scale maybe, never big or long term.

Originally Posted by Garand-Shooter
All those were programs designed for national security, that all could see were good for the country to be kept secret. That was good incentive to keep them as secret as they were (that was not very).

The very same people would look at a plan to imprison mass amounts of the US population and say "hell no" and both refuse to play and break the story.

You can only keep a large program relatively secret if all who encounter it can clearly see the program is a good thing for the country and therefore they have a reason to keep the secret.

I seem to remember a couple shuttle missions that have not been highly publicized, besides how hard is it to hide a supposed camp if there is concerted misdirection?

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