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Posted: 2/8/2016 4:16:22 PM EDT
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Notice we did not attempt to retrieve them?
They deserted in the face of the enemy. Shooting offense. We do indeed leave them behind. They made a choice. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 4:33:48 PM EDT
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It takes a seriously defective mind to decide that North Korea was a good choice to defect to. No loss with the departure of the dumbass.
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Posted: 2/8/2016 4:48:24 PM EDT
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Mmmm....snow coffee and songbird Thursday....
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Posted: 2/8/2016 5:01:02 PM EDT
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It takes a seriously defective mind to decide that North Korea was a good choice to defect to. No loss with the departure of the dumbass. if you watch the video all 4 of them were about to be court-martialed. in all honestly his life is probably way better than he would have had in the US. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 5:23:56 PM EDT
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Fuck that guy with Bergdahls dick.  FPNI |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:19:27 PM EDT
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Sounds like justice has been done. Yes it does. I almost felt sorry for him when he returned from duty to find that his wife was cheating on him, but his conduct after that destroyed what sympathy I might have had for him. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 8:20:34 PM EDT
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This thread is full of boys of privilege.
I'm not even 1/4 through the video and I understand why he did it. Sure, it might have turned out differently than it had been going for him here, but an orphan's life is usually going to be tough, and some are deadly tough. He found a way to live, and had to accept a political viewpoint to do it, but beyond that - he has lived a life in length that I doubt I'll have. The guy finally found peace and a place as far away as he could get to. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 8:28:47 PM EDT
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This thread is full of boys of privilege. I'm not even 1/4 through the video and I understand why he did it. Sure, it might have turned out differently than it had been going for him here, but an orphan's life is usually going to be tough, and some are deadly tough. He found a way to live, and had to accept a political viewpoint to do it, but beyond that - he has lived a life in length that I doubt I'll have. The guy finally found peace and a place as far away as he could get to. That guy turned an AWOL change and at worse a dishonorable discharge into 50+ years in the most repressive country on the planet. Sure, he had a hard upbringing. But he seems to take every bad hand dealt to him and make it worse. He's an idiot. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 8:30:35 PM EDT
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Hey, dipshit, enjoy your grass salad and roadkill bone marrow soup! brb, gotta get some snow for my coffee. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 8:37:28 PM EDT
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Robert Garwood managed. I was at Lejeune when that cocksucker was brought back. He was son of a syphliptic whore, IMO............... |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 8:41:46 PM EDT
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Fuck those traitors. Hope their lives suck. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 8:55:25 PM EDT
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This thread is full of boys of privilege. I'm not even 1/4 through the video and I understand why he did it. Sure, it might have turned out differently than it had been going for him here, but an orphan's life is usually going to be tough, and some are deadly tough. He found a way to live, and had to accept a political viewpoint to do it, but beyond that - he has lived a life in length that I doubt I'll have. The guy finally found peace and a place as far away as he could get to. I'll agree that being an orphan is tough. The Captain of the USS Pueblo grew up in an orphanage. However, he chose a radically different path from this traitor, though both suffered at the hands of the North Koreans. The significant difference is one chose to suffer at the hands of the North Koreans. Dresnok has painted himself into a corner. He had to mouth words that he doesn't believe in order to live a sad existence. He doesn't have any alternatives. There's no strength in that - his existance only serves as a warning to others. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 9:00:04 PM EDT
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Audie Murphy and Roy Benavidez were orphans too.
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Posted: 2/8/2016 9:08:15 PM EDT
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Notice we did not attempt to retrieve them? They deserted in the face of the enemy. Shooting offense. We do indeed leave them behind. They made a choice. My dad said that when he was in Korea they knew if they ever got a chance to kill Jenkins that their unit commander had promised them leave and a case of booze. 
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Posted: 2/8/2016 9:21:08 PM EDT
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While I was stationed in West Germany during the 80's there was a US Army defector who repatriated after living in the East for decades. IIRC he claimed he defected cause he wrecked a vehicle and was afraid they would send him to the stockade . Then there was that kid that private who defected to be a snake handler or something of that nature who had a change of heart.
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Posted: 2/8/2016 9:26:11 PM EDT
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Don't have time to watch now, is it Dreskok again?
Fuck that guy straight to hell. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 9:27:29 PM EDT
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That guy turned an AWOL change and at worse a dishonorable discharge into 50+ years in the most repressive country on the planet. Sure, he had a hard upbringing. But he seems to take every bad hand dealt to him and make it worse. He's an idiot. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This thread is full of boys of privilege. I'm not even 1/4 through the video and I understand why he did it. Sure, it might have turned out differently than it had been going for him here, but an orphan's life is usually going to be tough, and some are deadly tough. He found a way to live, and had to accept a political viewpoint to do it, but beyond that - he has lived a life in length that I doubt I'll have. The guy finally found peace and a place as far away as he could get to. That guy turned an AWOL change and at worse a dishonorable discharge into 50+ years in the most repressive country on the planet. Sure, he had a hard upbringing. But he seems to take every bad hand dealt to him and make it worse. He's an idiot. Sounds like he forged some paperwork to get a 96 and got caught. I've met Sergeants Major who've done way worse. Hell in 2007 I had a platoon sergeant that made E5 three different times before he kept it long term. In the 1960s you weren't even considered a real soldier without an Art 15. He's stupid enough to run away, through a mine field, to a foreign country her knew nothing about for a slap on the wrist offense. Sounds like North Korea was the one that got fucked on that deal, because that were stuck with the idiot. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 9:36:11 PM EDT
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Sounds like he forged some paperwork to get a 96 and got caught. I've met Sergeants Major who've done way worse. Hell in 2007 I had a platoon sergeant that made E5 three different times before he kept it long term. In the 1960s you weren't even considered a real soldier without an Art 15. He's stupid enough to run away, through a mine field, to a foreign country her knew nothing about for a slap on the wrist offense. Sounds like North Korea was the one that got fucked on that deal, because that were stuck with the idiot. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This thread is full of boys of privilege. I'm not even 1/4 through the video and I understand why he did it. Sure, it might have turned out differently than it had been going for him here, but an orphan's life is usually going to be tough, and some are deadly tough. He found a way to live, and had to accept a political viewpoint to do it, but beyond that - he has lived a life in length that I doubt I'll have. The guy finally found peace and a place as far away as he could get to. That guy turned an AWOL change and at worse a dishonorable discharge into 50+ years in the most repressive country on the planet. Sure, he had a hard upbringing. But he seems to take every bad hand dealt to him and make it worse. He's an idiot. Sounds like he forged some paperwork to get a 96 and got caught. I've met Sergeants Major who've done way worse. Hell in 2007 I had a platoon sergeant that made E5 three different times before he kept it long term. In the 1960s you weren't even considered a real soldier without an Art 15. He's stupid enough to run away, through a mine field, to a foreign country her knew nothing about for a slap on the wrist offense. Sounds like North Korea was the one that got fucked on that deal, because that were stuck with the idiot. He became a propaganda tool for the Norks - even starring in movies as the evil American. He was literally a useful idiot. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 9:39:37 PM EDT
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He became a propaganda tool for the Norks - even starring in movies as the evil American. He was literally a useful idiot. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This thread is full of boys of privilege. I'm not even 1/4 through the video and I understand why he did it. Sure, it might have turned out differently than it had been going for him here, but an orphan's life is usually going to be tough, and some are deadly tough. He found a way to live, and had to accept a political viewpoint to do it, but beyond that - he has lived a life in length that I doubt I'll have. The guy finally found peace and a place as far away as he could get to. That guy turned an AWOL change and at worse a dishonorable discharge into 50+ years in the most repressive country on the planet. Sure, he had a hard upbringing. But he seems to take every bad hand dealt to him and make it worse. He's an idiot. Sounds like he forged some paperwork to get a 96 and got caught. I've met Sergeants Major who've done way worse. Hell in 2007 I had a platoon sergeant that made E5 three different times before he kept it long term. In the 1960s you weren't even considered a real soldier without an Art 15. He's stupid enough to run away, through a mine field, to a foreign country her knew nothing about for a slap on the wrist offense. Sounds like North Korea was the one that got fucked on that deal, because that were stuck with the idiot. He became a propaganda tool for the Norks - even starring in movies as the evil American. He was literally a useful idiot. I'm surprised they kept the American Bastard around so long anyway. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 10:05:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds like he forged some paperwork to get a 96 and got caught. I've met Sergeants Major who've done way worse. Hell in 2007 I had a platoon sergeant that made E5 three different times before he kept it long term. In the 1960s you weren't even considered a real soldier without an Art 15. He's stupid enough to run away, through a mine field, to a foreign country her knew nothing about for a slap on the wrist offense. Sounds like North Korea was the one that got fucked on that deal, because that were stuck with the idiot. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: This thread is full of boys of privilege. I'm not even 1/4 through the video and I understand why he did it. Sure, it might have turned out differently than it had been going for him here, but an orphan's life is usually going to be tough, and some are deadly tough. He found a way to live, and had to accept a political viewpoint to do it, but beyond that - he has lived a life in length that I doubt I'll have. The guy finally found peace and a place as far away as he could get to. That guy turned an AWOL change and at worse a dishonorable discharge into 50+ years in the most repressive country on the planet. Sure, he had a hard upbringing. But he seems to take every bad hand dealt to him and make it worse. He's an idiot. Sounds like he forged some paperwork to get a 96 and got caught. I've met Sergeants Major who've done way worse. Hell in 2007 I had a platoon sergeant that made E5 three different times before he kept it long term. In the 1960s you weren't even considered a real soldier without an Art 15. He's stupid enough to run away, through a mine field, to a foreign country her knew nothing about for a slap on the wrist offense. Sounds like North Korea was the one that got fucked on that deal, because that were stuck with the idiot. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 10:18:58 PM EDT
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Defect to NK?
What a maroon. What a nincowpoop. What an imbezzle. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 10:31:07 PM EDT
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I wish all the socialists and communists here would do the same thing.. Get out.
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Posted: 2/8/2016 10:35:22 PM EDT
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How about failure to obey order or regulation, unauthorized absence, deriliction of duty and forging government documents. Topped off with AWOL and misconduct before enemy troops. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This thread is full of boys of privilege. I'm not even 1/4 through the video and I understand why he did it. Sure, it might have turned out differently than it had been going for him here, but an orphan's life is usually going to be tough, and some are deadly tough. He found a way to live, and had to accept a political viewpoint to do it, but beyond that - he has lived a life in length that I doubt I'll have. The guy finally found peace and a place as far away as he could get to. That guy turned an AWOL change and at worse a dishonorable discharge into 50+ years in the most repressive country on the planet. Sure, he had a hard upbringing. But he seems to take every bad hand dealt to him and make it worse. He's an idiot. Sounds like he forged some paperwork to get a 96 and got caught. I've met Sergeants Major who've done way worse. Hell in 2007 I had a platoon sergeant that made E5 three different times before he kept it long term. In the 1960s you weren't even considered a real soldier without an Art 15. He's stupid enough to run away, through a mine field, to a foreign country her knew nothing about for a slap on the wrist offense. Sounds like North Korea was the one that got fucked on that deal, because that were stuck with the idiot. As soon as he crossed into NK he was fucked. All the other stuff before that comes down to telling your segeant that the captain wrote you out a pass, when he didn't, and then forging one and getting caught. It's mundane bullshit type of misconduct that happens everyday. Reduction one pay grade, 30 days restriction, deduct half pay, life goes on. It's not like he fucked a general's daughter or something serious. Certainly not worth being a pussy and running through a minefield into enemy territory to evade a court martial. Decisions that poor are only made by total idiots. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 10:38:10 PM EDT
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Never said he was smart.
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Posted: 2/8/2016 11:13:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Tagged for later viewing |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 11:13:59 PM EDT
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I've got Jenkins book "The Reluctant Communist". It's pretty good, talks about how Dresnok told their Nork guards about all their escape attempts and actually beat him on their orders. Made Dresnok look like a total piece of shit.
Jenkins was just a dumb drunk. He was leading a squad on a patrol, told them to hold up while he went to check out something down the hill and then went over the DMZ. Why? Because he was drunk and thought they would quickly hand him over to the Soviets and his release would be demanded and he would come home a hero. He said back then all he knew was that the Norks were Communists and all Communists took orders from Moscow. He was....not very bright. And he didn't come home a hero. Seems like he did get to come home for a month or so but then moved back to Japan with his wife. Oh yeah, the Norks "gave" them all wives, all kidnapped foreigners because they didn't want them to pollute the perfect Nork DNA with their American DNA. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 11:33:00 PM EDT
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Cool vid. Thanks for posting Reno.
Fat American "living the high life" in best Korea has better rice rations than normal norks. Also, special fishing club privilege and as many cancer sticks as he can choke down. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 11:43:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/9/2016 12:18:36 AM EDT
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At his court martial in November 2004, Jenkins appeared wearing the following awards on his Army uniform.
Army Good Conduct Medal National Defense Service Medal Global War on Terrorism Service Medal Korea Defense Service Medal Army Service Ribbon Overseas Service Ribbon Jenkins further displayed the North Carolina Service Ribbon to denote his status as a Guardsman transferred to the Regular Army during his original tour in the 1950s and 60s. His one authorized Army badge is the Marksmanship Badge with Rifle bar. |
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Posted: 2/9/2016 12:28:15 AM EDT
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A slightly shocking thing about the "defectors" is that none of them did so for ideological reasons. A not so shocking thing is that between Abshier,Jenkins,Dresnok and most of those captured in Korea who elected not to return the common denominator is lack of education. IIRC a third of those captured and turned by propaganda had never attended,let alone finished,high school. The real common denominators are disillusionment, unhappiness, and troubled childhoods. Probably fits the background of most lefties nowadays as well. |
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Posted: 2/9/2016 12:52:37 AM EDT
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I can't believe I watched the whole thing... Compelling documentary.
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Posted: 2/9/2016 12:54:32 AM EDT
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Check out Dear Leader for more, about a relatively-high placed official defecting FROM the North:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IBYRQ18/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?ie=UTF8&btkr=1 This book is as amazingly revealing as it is terribly sapping of one's faith in humanity. I was moved to tears more than once over learning about the horrible things the (relatively-innocent) North Koreans endure at the hands of that criminal government. What happens to many of the women is particularly disturbing beyond mere words. Anyone who willingly joins that side is shaking hands with the devil, and they deserve every bit of burn they'll get for it. |
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Posted: 2/9/2016 1:40:51 AM EDT
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Interesting, tag for later.
Fuck those guys. |
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Posted: 2/9/2016 1:46:45 AM EDT
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Tagged for later
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Posted: 2/9/2016 2:51:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Check out Dear Leader for more, about a relatively-high placed official defecting FROM the North: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IBYRQ18/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?ie=UTF8&btkr=1 This book is as amazingly revealing as it is terribly sapping of one's faith in humanity. I was moved to tears more than once over learning about the horrible things the (relatively-innocent) North Koreans endure at the hands of that criminal government. What happens to many of the women is particularly disturbing beyond mere words. Anyone who willingly joins that side is shaking hands with the devil, and they deserve every bit of burn they'll get for it. |
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Posted: 2/9/2016 10:23:31 AM EDT
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This was filmed in 2006. I would be very surprised if he is still alive judging by his health then.
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Posted: 2/9/2016 10:38:54 AM EDT
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I'd say I hope he gets nabbed by U.S. agents one day and put in prison for treason but I think our prisons would be a step up in living standards so here's to hoping he stays put where he is.
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Posted: 2/9/2016 10:53:09 AM EDT
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I was in the scout platoon at the JSA in 97 98 when were you? Like to get up with some old friends
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Standing in the JSA was close enough to the communist cesspool for me. Tell me why bernie is doing so well? |
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Posted: 2/9/2016 11:43:09 AM EDT
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Were those gold teeth?
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Posted: 2/9/2016 11:47:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This was filmed in 2006. I would be very surprised if he is still alive judging by his health then. |
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Posted: 2/9/2016 12:44:13 PM EDT
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I've got Jenkins book "The Reluctant Communist". It's pretty good, talks about how Dresnok told their Nork guards about all their escape attempts and actually beat him on their orders. Made Dresnok look like a total piece of shit. Jenkins was just a dumb drunk. He was leading a squad on a patrol, told them to hold up while he went to check out something down the hill and then went over the DMZ. Why? Because he was drunk and thought they would quickly hand him over to the Soviets and his release would be demanded and he would come home a hero. He said back then all he knew was that the Norks were Communists and all Communists took orders from Moscow. He was....not very bright. And he didn't come home a hero. Seems like he did get to come home for a month or so but then moved back to Japan with his wife. Oh yeah, the Norks "gave" them all wives, all kidnapped foreigners because they didn't want them to pollute the perfect Nork DNA with their American DNA. Yeah, definitely makes Dresnok out to be not only a useful idiot, but also an enforcer on behalf of the Norks against his fellow defectors. |
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Posted: 2/9/2016 12:45:17 PM EDT
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This was filmed in 2006. I would be very surprised if he is still alive judging by his health then. |
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Posted: 2/9/2016 12:47:59 PM EDT
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I worked with legally blind woman who escaped from north Korea as a child with her family from the way she made it sound there was basically only one thing blind women were good for there and that was sex slaves. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Check out Dear Leader for more, about a relatively-high placed official defecting FROM the North: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IBYRQ18/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?ie=UTF8&btkr=1 This book is as amazingly revealing as it is terribly sapping of one's faith in humanity. I was moved to tears more than once over learning about the horrible things the (relatively-innocent) North Koreans endure at the hands of that criminal government. What happens to many of the women is particularly disturbing beyond mere words. Anyone who willingly joins that side is shaking hands with the devil, and they deserve every bit of burn they'll get for it. I'm not surprised. Sadly, I'm coming to realize that in primitive and oppressive regimes, women are frequently victimized. Really makes me appreciate that my daughters are growing up here in the USA. |
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Posted: 2/9/2016 12:49:41 PM EDT
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I've watched the Dreznok documentary on Netflix.
I was surprised that he defected because he was facing some sort of NJP and not because he liked communism. |
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Posted: 2/9/2016 12:51:41 PM EDT
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Never knew 4 GIs defected  Apparently Dresnok was the one who kept other defectors in line according o the shitbag who came back a few years ago. |
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Posted: 2/9/2016 12:59:34 PM EDT
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Interesting.. I'll have to watch it later.
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Posted: 2/9/2016 1:05:48 PM EDT
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He just wanted to join the NORK dance troupe
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Posted: 2/9/2016 1:09:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Apparently Dresnok was the one who kept other defectors in line according o the shitbag who came back a few years ago. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Never knew 4 GIs defected Apparently Dresnok was the one who kept other defectors in line according o the shitbag who came back a few years ago. |
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Posted: 2/9/2016 1:33:40 PM EDT
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The North Koreans use to drop propaganda leaflets on the DMZ showing these a-holes surrounded by pretty woman and tons of food.
All you had to do was look across the DMZ and see life sucked. |
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Posted: 2/9/2016 1:55:30 PM EDT
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Every time I see something about North Korean life, it definitely holds my interest. How such a nation can exist with the general population being as blind as it is to the outside world always fascinates me... I wouldn't have guessed that any American in their right mind could even think about defecting to such a trash hole.... Obviously he was never in his right mind..
Thank you for posting this! Socialism..... Man.... There it is though... "The gov will take care of me to my dying day". Yep. That sure leaves a broad definition of what "taking care of you" means... |
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