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Posted: 1/22/2016 11:54:08 AM EDT
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Cletus and Bros, man.
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Posted: 1/22/2016 11:55:05 AM EDT
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In before the title change.  yep |
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Posted: 1/22/2016 11:58:35 AM EDT
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Paid just shy of 30k a few years ago for a new rubicon. Factory order. Shouldn't be 40k unless it's decked out with all the soccer mom features.
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Posted: 1/22/2016 12:02:07 PM EDT
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Buy a TJ or YJ, Ive never seen so many poser strokes wannabe off road douchebags driving these POS. Oversized shitboxes with a real douche community of drivers in those JKs. The typical driver has some poser black off road looking rims and a cheap ass suspension, maybe even a winch thats brand new and never used to complete the look of total pussified dick smoker. These people make me sick, dice their balls off. http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjq-77v4r3KAhWEnIMKHZJPCW4QjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.streetfire.net%2Frides%2F2000-jeep-wrangler-sport_1047612.htm&bvm=bv.112454388,d.amc&psig=AFQjCNEDNFyROGKeXBiHIp1fLsbg3ytBNA&ust=1453564169543810 This guy gets it! Just like all those poser ar15 owners with their wannabe slings and some people even buy pmags for them!!! What do they think they are tier 1 operators in the mountains of Afghanistan? What a bunch of posers using stuff for personal enjoyment!!!!!!! |
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Posted: 1/22/2016 12:02:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Only Jeep owners buy a 60K vehicle for the purpose of destroying. 12k thank you very much...  There are a few people in the club that go along with what you are saying though.  |
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Posted: 1/22/2016 12:02:19 PM EDT
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My 2014 JKUR was right at 40K. It could have been less, but I ordered side airbags the dual top group, and an automatic transmission. It is a heck of a lot of fun in the backcountry.
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Posted: 1/22/2016 12:02:49 PM EDT
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Got ours for 36K.
Remove ridiculous options that have no effect on performance. (Do get the better soft top though and all performance enhancing options) |
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Posted: 1/22/2016 12:02:52 PM EDT
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First 3 posts nailed it.
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Posted: 1/22/2016 12:06:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat guy was lucky he did not destroy an engine...
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Posted: 1/22/2016 12:07:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cause every rich soccer mom out there buys it to haul around their crotch fruit. Thus making the price go up. |
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Posted: 1/22/2016 12:10:20 PM EDT
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FIFY My buddy is a Jeep dealer, he said they sign more 8 year loans than anything else now. Leases, of course, are very common. Gee, how did we get into a financial mess in this country?
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Because people buy them on a 96 month note at that price... Is it worth that to me? Nope! FIFY My buddy is a Jeep dealer, he said they sign more 8 year loans than anything else now. Leases, of course, are very common. Gee, how did we get into a financial mess in this country?
An 8 year loan for a vehicle is absurd. An 8 year loan for a vehicle with a 3 year warranty is fucking stupid. |
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Posted: 1/22/2016 12:13:14 PM EDT
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Paid $21,000 for my 2012 Sport back in late 2013. I bought a Rubi junk yard Dana 44 front axle for $800 and had it and the rear axle re-geared and a Eaton - Truetrac installed for $1500. $2300 bucks total. I don't need leather, power windows and a sticker where I drive my Jeep.
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Posted: 1/22/2016 12:13:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Paid $21,000 for my 2012 Sport back in late 2013. I bought a Rubi junk yard Dana 44 front axle for $800 and had it and the rear axle re-geared and a Eaton - Truetrac installed for $1500. $2300 bucks total. I don't need leather, power windows and a sticker where I drive my Jeep. I hate you... |
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Posted: 1/22/2016 12:14:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryWhat the fuck is with that front grill flapping around like it is zip-tied on? |
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Posted: 1/22/2016 12:14:36 PM EDT
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I really like my Willys JKU I bought last year.
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Posted: 1/22/2016 12:15:49 PM EDT
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Paid $21,000 for my 2012 Sport back in late 2013. I bought a Rubi junk yard Dana 44 front axle for $800 and had it and the rear axle re-geared and a Eaton - Truetrac installed for $1500. $2300 bucks total. I don't need leather, power windows and a sticker where I drive my Jeep. I hate you... Gotta get on em quick! Haha!. |
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Posted: 1/22/2016 12:15:58 PM EDT
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FIFY My buddy is a Jeep dealer, he said they sign more 8 year loans than anything else now. Leases, of course, are very common. Gee, how did we get into a financial mess in this country?
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Because people buy them on a 96 month note at that price... Is it worth that to me? Nope! FIFY My buddy is a Jeep dealer, he said they sign more 8 year loans than anything else now. Leases, of course, are very common. Gee, how did we get into a financial mess in this country?
Eight year loans now!
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Posted: 1/22/2016 12:16:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Paid just shy of 30k a few years ago for a new rubicon. Factory order. Shouldn't be 40k unless it's decked out with all the soccer mom features. |
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Posted: 1/22/2016 12:17:17 PM EDT
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Eight year loans now!
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Because people buy them on a 96 month note at that price... Is it worth that to me? Nope! FIFY My buddy is a Jeep dealer, he said they sign more 8 year loans than anything else now. Leases, of course, are very common. Gee, how did we get into a financial mess in this country?
Eight year loans now!
Interested in knowing what rate too. Last year I stupidly signed up for a seven year loan @ 1.9%. I financed 16k and have it knocked down to about 10k right now. Should be able to pay it off within two years here. |
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Posted: 1/22/2016 12:19:13 PM EDT
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Do you really need the Rubicon? Stock Wrangler with the factory rear LSD is very capable off road and very poor surfaces. I would consider the LSD to be a requirement, I don't like that Chrysler even offers the Wrangler with an open rear.
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Posted: 1/22/2016 12:19:58 PM EDT
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Last year bought a 2012 used Rubicon. Love. Yes all the TJ owners will hate you cause your stock Jeep goes just as good as their TR with $10,000 into it.
It have been out many time to fairly hard trails with 2 adults, 3 kids and a dog. Fit that in you TJ. :) Has the pin strips to prove it. Just put a 3 1/2" Metalcloak lift on it. I will admit Jeep did one thing wrong. You can not turn the ESP totally off. It won't spin tires in the mud. |
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Posted: 1/22/2016 12:20:06 PM EDT
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In before the title change. yep |
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Posted: 1/22/2016 12:23:31 PM EDT
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In before the title change. 
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Posted: 1/22/2016 12:29:27 PM EDT
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Do you really need the Rubicon? Stock Wrangler with the factory rear LSD is very capable off road and very poor surfaces. I would consider the LSD to be a requirement, I don't like that Chrysler even offers the Wrangler with an open rear. I think it all depends on what you plan to do with your Jeep. I live in the mountains where rocks need climbing. The Rubicon has a better rear axle, more armor, lockers, and a sway bar disconnect. EDIT: In regards to your comments on LSD and open diffs. Linky |
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Posted: 1/22/2016 12:30:02 PM EDT
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Buy an old YJ and build a real Jeep. You can build a bulletproof rig for a lot cheaper than you can buy one.
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Posted: 1/22/2016 12:32:03 PM EDT
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This guy gets it! Just like all those poser ar15 owners with their wannabe slings and some people even buy pmags for them!!! What do they think they are tier 1 operators in the mountains of Afghanistan? What a bunch of posers using stuff for personal enjoyment!!!!!!! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Buy a TJ or YJ, Ive never seen so many poser strokes wannabe off road douchebags driving these POS. Oversized shitboxes with a real douche community of drivers in those JKs. The typical driver has some poser black off road looking rims and a cheap ass suspension, maybe even a winch thats brand new and never used to complete the look of total pussified dick smoker. These people make me sick, dice their balls off. http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjq-77v4r3KAhWEnIMKHZJPCW4QjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.streetfire.net%2Frides%2F2000-jeep-wrangler-sport_1047612.htm&bvm=bv.112454388,d.amc&psig=AFQjCNEDNFyROGKeXBiHIp1fLsbg3ytBNA&ust=1453564169543810 This guy gets it! Just like all those poser ar15 owners with their wannabe slings and some people even buy pmags for them!!! What do they think they are tier 1 operators in the mountains of Afghanistan? What a bunch of posers using stuff for personal enjoyment!!!!!!!  When douchebags collide!
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Posted: 1/22/2016 12:33:45 PM EDT
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In 1997 I bought a base 4x4 Wrangler for $14,000.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In 2010 I bought a new Wrangler Unlimited Sport (4WD, stick shift, air, manual windows & locks) for $25,000 In 1997 I bought a base 4x4 Wrangler for $14,000. This! That is exactly what I paid for my Jeep in 1998. I loved it, but there is no way I'd drop the cash for one now.....while fun, they are not worth it. |
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Posted: 1/22/2016 12:40:55 PM EDT
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I bought my 08 rubicon jku at a estate sale in 2010, got it for less than trade in price do to the economy sucking at the time. I've since put an additonal 60,000 miles on it and I've looked at the trade in price and it's the same amount that I bought it for. The rubicon is like the gold standard for holding value. I've always enjoyed that with honda and jeep wranglers.
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Posted: 1/22/2016 12:45:00 PM EDT
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Coworker of mine bought one. Her payments are... Ridiculous. For 72 months...
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Posted: 1/22/2016 12:45:14 PM EDT
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Junk is expensive.
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Posted: 1/22/2016 12:47:53 PM EDT
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OP, you do know how a dual-income credit-driven economy works, right?
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Posted: 1/22/2016 12:49:38 PM EDT
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And if people would stop paying $40k+ for the Jeeps, the price would come down. Hard to blame them for charging what the market will bear, however. The dealership I work P/T at has a few over $50k (not the brodozer dealership package, but straight factory). They had a simple 2dr sport come in and a few days later they had it lifted with bro-wheels. It sat for months before some sucker bought it. |
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Posted: 1/22/2016 12:51:48 PM EDT
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Paid just shy of 30k a few years ago for a new rubicon. Factory order. Shouldn't be 40k unless it's decked out with all the soccer mom features. I paid 32k for loaded 2012. Then sold it for 36k a couple years latter, the prices made a huge jump in between then. I prices the same jeep out and it was into the 40's and there's even more options now too. |
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Posted: 1/22/2016 12:56:23 PM EDT
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If you have a wallet full of money and a healthy bank account you've never owned a Jeep.
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Posted: 1/22/2016 12:56:35 PM EDT
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A car mag broke this down once a while back (can't remember who), and this was the conclusion. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Because it's cheaper than building up a Sport model. A car mag broke this down once a while back (can't remember who), and this was the conclusion. It's true. Lockers and gears (axles and Tcase) are the best and most expensive upgrade on a 4wd. My friend just bought a Power Wagon and his math had him saving around $5k over buying a stock 3/4ton and adding all of the goodies. If you don't use it off-road, it's not worth the money. |
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Posted: 1/22/2016 12:57:44 PM EDT
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Emphasized your important point. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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4/1 xfer case, 4.10 gear option, Dana 44 up front and back, electronic lockers front and back, electronic sway bar disconnect, steel front skid plate and the kicker FACTORY WARRANTY with all the stuff mentioned. They are very capable vehicles. Emphasized your important point. Thanks I am on my phone. |
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Posted: 1/22/2016 12:58:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's true. Lockers and gears (axles and Tcase) are the best and most expensive upgrade on a 4wd. My friend just bought a Power Wagon and his math had him saving around $5k over buying a stock 3/4ton and adding all of the goodies. If you don't use it off-road, it's not worth the money. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Because it's cheaper than building up a Sport model. A car mag broke this down once a while back (can't remember who), and this was the conclusion. It's true. Lockers and gears (axles and Tcase) are the best and most expensive upgrade on a 4wd. My friend just bought a Power Wagon and his math had him saving around $5k over buying a stock 3/4ton and adding all of the goodies. If you don't use it off-road, it's not worth the money. The regear put me past the point of I'm keeping it forever. |
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Posted: 1/22/2016 12:59:38 PM EDT
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It's true. Lockers and gears (axles and Tcase) are the best and most expensive upgrade on a 4wd. My friend just bought a Power Wagon and his math had him saving around $5k over buying a stock 3/4ton and adding all of the goodies. If you don't use it off-road, it's not worth the money. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Because it's cheaper than building up a Sport model. A car mag broke this down once a while back (can't remember who), and this was the conclusion. It's true. Lockers and gears (axles and Tcase) are the best and most expensive upgrade on a 4wd. My friend just bought a Power Wagon and his math had him saving around $5k over buying a stock 3/4ton and adding all of the goodies. If you don't use it off-road, it's not worth the money. That is true, but if you are planning to go bigger than 35" tires, you would be money ahead to get a sport and upgrade everything yourself. |
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Posted: 1/22/2016 1:00:58 PM EDT
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That wasnt cool, it was just fuckin stupid. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 1/22/2016 1:01:30 PM EDT
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supply and demmand
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Posted: 1/22/2016 1:03:59 PM EDT
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Buy an old YJ and build a real Jeep. You can build a bulletproof rig for a lot cheaper than you can buy one. Its easy and affordable to build a competent trail or crawling rig. Not so much if you also want it to be an excellent daily driver as well as capable of taking a family camping. I'm ordering a JKU specifically because I want one vehicle that can do a little bit of everything. The added capability is well worth the extra cash. |
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Posted: 1/22/2016 1:22:53 PM EDT
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What is invoice pricing on a basic sport model with 3.73 gears?
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Posted: 1/22/2016 1:27:32 PM EDT
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Because people buy them at that price... Is it worth that to me? Nope! |
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Posted: 1/22/2016 1:38:39 PM EDT
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If you have a wallet full of money and a healthy bank account you've never owned a Jeep. Just Empty Every |
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Posted: 1/22/2016 1:39:58 PM EDT
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because people will pay it.... they dont even have to haggle
very few Jeeps sit on the lot for very long. |
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Posted: 1/22/2016 1:40:16 PM EDT
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In 2010 I bought a new Wrangler Unlimited Sport (4WD, stick shift, air, manual windows & locks) for $25,000 That would be the limit. A jeep just is not worth it. |
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Posted: 1/22/2016 1:43:36 PM EDT
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Electric sway bar disconnect Axles 4.10 gears (upgrade) Or buy a sport and do the work yourself for less. I think in all my time in the Jeep world you are the first person who actually thinks its cheaper to do it on your own vs the few K upgrade in proce over a sport from the factory. |
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Posted: 1/22/2016 1:49:56 PM EDT
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Been looking to buy a wrangler. Probably just get 2 door sport soft top. Looking at the prices why are they priced so high , like north of 40k for a rubicon Because they are awesome https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32270217/XlxxaUt.jpg Getting your Brokeback Jeep stuck in the mud does not make it awesome...
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Posted: 1/22/2016 1:51:23 PM EDT
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Jeep = the automotive version of coming out of the closet.
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Posted: 1/22/2016 2:00:13 PM EDT
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Electric sway bar disconnect Axles 4.10 gears (upgrade) Or buy a sport and do the work yourself for less. Different transfer case as well. |
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