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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:22:33 PM EDT
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Call him a liar and demand to see his DD214.
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:22:57 PM EDT
[#2]
Ask him for his DD214
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:23:13 PM EDT
[#3]
Ask him for his DD214....or if you have his pertinent info do a FOIA for it.
Otherwise he is probably bullshitting. I find that many of the fakers don't bullshit when other known real vets are not around as no one can call them on it. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:24:14 PM EDT
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PTSD would be a medical issue with related information being considered PHI, so no.
Being a prick, however, is usually public information, |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:25:08 PM EDT
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Ask him for his DD214....or if you have his pertinent info do a FOIA for it. Otherwise he is probably bullshitting. I find that many of the fakers don't bullshit when other known real vets are not around as no one can call them on it. THe problem with that is most civilians will look at a DD-214 and they might as well be reading hieroglyphics. Better option, get his 214 and give it to us, it'll take about 4 seconds for the .mil forum to figure out if this guy is full of shit or not. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:26:09 PM EDT
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Just call him a fucking liar/fake and be done with it.
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:26:49 PM EDT
[#7]
Kick his ass then ask for his papers.
PTSD is no excuse for being an ass. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:27:50 PM EDT
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PTSD would be a medical issue with related information being considered PHI, so no. Being a prick, however, is usually public information, 90% of people who say they have PTSD are pogues who never left the wire and are just scamming the system. The doorkickers with serious issues don't go around running their mouth about all the nasty shit they did. <-----------pogue |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:29:00 PM EDT
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"Excuse me, i need a copy of your 214 so my internet buddies can vet it."
LOL Sorry guys, i'd tell you to fuck off. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:29:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "Excuse me, i need a copy of your 214 so my internet buddies can vet it." LOL Sorry guys, i'd tell you to fuck off. Poser  |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:32:12 PM EDT
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"Excuse me, i need a copy of your 214 so my internet buddies can vet it." LOL Sorry guys, i'd tell you to fuck off. Yep. Like I'm giving my 214 to some random fuxk...... |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:34:41 PM EDT
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90% of people who say they have PTSD are pogues who never left the wire and are just scamming the system. The doorkickers with serious issues don't go around running their mouth about all the nasty shit they did. <-----------pogue Quote HistoryQuoted:
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PTSD would be a medical issue with related information being considered PHI, so no. Being a prick, however, is usually public information, 90% of people who say they have PTSD are pogues who never left the wire and are just scamming the system. The doorkickers with serious issues don't go around running their mouth about all the nasty shit they did. <-----------pogue Huge +1. From what I have seen so far, the people with legitimate problems rarely talk about it. Which only makes it worse  . The asshole advertising it are typically the ones trying to capitalize on it. 
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:34:47 PM EDT
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"Excuse me, i need a copy of your 214 so my internet buddies can vet it." LOL Sorry guys, i'd tell you to fuck off. So says the guy with a tank under his name 
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:41:30 PM EDT
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"Excuse me, i need a copy of your 214 so my internet buddies can vet it." LOL Sorry guys, i'd tell you to fuck off. I was thinking the same thing...probably asked by an internet commando who doesn't have a dd214.... |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:41:47 PM EDT
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So says the guy with a tank under his name Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"Excuse me, i need a copy of your 214 so my internet buddies can vet it." LOL Sorry guys, i'd tell you to fuck off. So says the guy with a tank under his name Not the only way to verify.....especially for those who got the tank while still active and didn't have a DD214 yet. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:42:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ask him for his DD214 If some civilian demanded to see my DD214 - I'd tell him to ram it. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:43:17 PM EDT
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If he is all pissy about his PTSD he doesn't have PTSD
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:45:15 PM EDT
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Point to a floor buffer and tell him to get busy.
If you end up with a nice shiny floor, don't play against him in spades if money is involved. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:47:22 PM EDT
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Point to a floor buffer and tell him to get busy. LOL. Now THAT is the test. In my youth, I could have won a floor buffer rodeo. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:50:00 PM EDT
[#20]
If the OP is calling out a vet...
I'm all in on this one. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:51:31 PM EDT
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If some civilian demanded to see my DD214 - I'd tell him to ram it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ask him for his DD214 If some civilian demanded to see my DD214 - I'd tell him to ram it. Well, don't ask don't tell was repealed. 
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Posted: 5/23/2015 12:30:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If the OP is calling out a vet... I'm all in on this one. Nah. I don't hav problems with people in real life. I'm actually a really like able guy! Seriously, a buddy of mine was asking. |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 12:33:58 AM EDT
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Nah. I don't hav problems with people in real life. I'm actually a really like able guy! Seriously, a buddy of mine was asking. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If the OP is calling out a vet... I'm all in on this one. Nah. I don't hav problems with people in real life. I'm actually a really like able guy! Seriously, a buddy of mine was asking. Why would he be asking you? Do you do this sort of thing often? Are you out there "white knighting" civilians that are being abused by vets on a regular basis? If the guy's a poser then fine, go after him. But....If he's not, and you do go after him...Well, that's on you. Good luck. |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 12:39:48 AM EDT
[#24]
FOIA
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Posted: 5/23/2015 12:43:08 AM EDT
[#25]
First, who cares? Seriously. What's it matter?
Second, always reject an invitation to drama. What possible incentive is there to get involved in this? |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 12:43:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why would he be asking you? Do you do this sort of thing often? Are you out there "white knighting" civilians that are being abused by vets on a regular basis? If the guy's a poser then fine, go after him. But....If he's not, and you do go after him...Well, that's on you. Good luck. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: If the OP is calling out a vet... I'm all in on this one. Nah. I don't hav problems with people in real life. I'm actually a really like able guy! Seriously, a buddy of mine was asking. Why would he be asking you? Do you do this sort of thing often? Are you out there "white knighting" civilians that are being abused by vets on a regular basis? If the guy's a poser then fine, go after him. But....If he's not, and you do go after him...Well, that's on you. Good luck. You've never had a friend ask you about something they don't know about? Happens to me all the time. Either way, your opinion is of no consequence. |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 12:44:34 AM EDT
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Point to a floor buffer and tell him to get busy. If you end up with a nice shiny floor, don't play against him in spades if money is involved. 
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Posted: 5/23/2015 12:45:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: First, who cares? Seriously. What's it matter? Second, always reject an invitation to drama. What possible incentive is there to get involved in this? No drama for me. I don't know the second guy. |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 12:45:22 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If some civilian demanded to see my DD214 - I'd tell him to ram it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ask him for his DD214 If some civilian demanded to see my DD214 - I'd tell him to ram it. It isn't like a PTSD badge is going to be on his 214. Ask to see his rating or code sheet if you're going to demand paperwork. Papers please! Seriously, who cares about this shit enough to even pursue it? |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 12:47:49 AM EDT
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Ask him for his DD214 Even easier, "What was your MOS?" |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 12:57:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Even easier, "What was your MOS?" Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ask him for his DD214 Even easier, "What was your MOS?" I was a 71 Lima which is just like Infantry, but with 4187's instead of 240's. |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 12:59:35 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It isn't like a PTSD badge is going to be on his 214. Ask to see his rating or code sheet if you're going to demand paperwork. Papers please! Seriously, who cares about this shit enough to even pursue it? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Ask him for his DD214 If some civilian demanded to see my DD214 - I'd tell him to ram it. It isn't like a PTSD badge is going to be on his 214. Ask to see his rating or code sheet if you're going to demand paperwork. Papers please! Seriously, who cares about this shit enough to even pursue it? From what I gather, it's complicated... My buddy is the guy's supervisor, but not his boss exactly. So the guy is some kind of dirt bag, he shows up drunk, doesn't do his job and my buddy is on the hook covering for him. Well, apparently, he started talking shit to the other people at work, saying my friend fucked this up and fucked that up...damaging his reputation with his peers. The guy apparently talks all kinds of shit about what he did in the war...he cut some guy's balls off to make him talk, he did this and that, whatever. But apparently the boss won't fire the guy because he's a vet, so my friend wants to see if he can prove otherwise. That right there proves it isn't me...my boss would never put me in charge of any one, and the one time they tried I weaseled out of it. |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 1:01:14 AM EDT
[#33]
Call him a boot and see what he does.
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Posted: 5/23/2015 1:21:42 AM EDT
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From what I gather, it's complicated... My buddy is the guy's supervisor, but not his boss exactly. So the guy is some kind of dirt bag, he shows up drunk, doesn't do his job and my buddy is on the hook covering for him. Well, apparently, he started talking shit to the other people at work, saying my friend fucked this up and fucked that up...damaging his reputation with his peers. The guy apparently talks all kinds of shit about what he did in the war...he cut some guy's balls off to make him talk, he did this and that, whatever. But apparently the boss won't fire the guy because he's a vet, so my friend wants to see if he can prove otherwise. That right there proves it isn't me...my boss would never put me in charge of any one, and the one time they tried I weaseled out of it.
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Ask him for his DD214 If some civilian demanded to see my DD214 - I'd tell him to ram it. It isn't like a PTSD badge is going to be on his 214. Ask to see his rating or code sheet if you're going to demand paperwork. Papers please! Seriously, who cares about this shit enough to even pursue it? From what I gather, it's complicated... My buddy is the guy's supervisor, but not his boss exactly. So the guy is some kind of dirt bag, he shows up drunk, doesn't do his job and my buddy is on the hook covering for him. Well, apparently, he started talking shit to the other people at work, saying my friend fucked this up and fucked that up...damaging his reputation with his peers. The guy apparently talks all kinds of shit about what he did in the war...he cut some guy's balls off to make him talk, he did this and that, whatever. But apparently the boss won't fire the guy because he's a vet, so my friend wants to see if he can prove otherwise. That right there proves it isn't me...my boss would never put me in charge of any one, and the one time they tried I weaseled out of it.
That's the ticket for some serious penitentiary time... not gonna happen in the US Mil. Hell you can't hardly give out corrective training anymore let alone cut someone's balls off, war or no war. |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 1:26:09 AM EDT
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Even easier, "What was your MOS?" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ask him for his DD214 Even easier, "What was your MOS?" Lol. GD and it's persistent erection for outing mil dudes. If some rando asked all that shit from me I'd laugh at them. Or tell them 1171 water dog YUT. There are online databases where you can search for combat awards (CAR, PH, etc...). If he doesn't have one he probably doesn't have PTSD. |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 1:37:34 AM EDT
[#36]
Apparently you will have PTSD if your daddy yelled at you or fell off you bike.
For the rest of us with "old school" PTSD:  |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 1:45:54 AM EDT
[#37]
I used to think it was a bunch of made up bullshit, but I've known a few guys that seemed a bit off after deploying.
I've also known chest-beaters that love any excuse to mention that they were military, or that they've deployed. I think folks that actually have PTSD aren't the ones going around talking about it. YMMV. |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 1:56:12 AM EDT
[#38]
You certainly won't be able to get his medical records to look for a PTSD diagnosis, but you can absolutely FOIA his DD214. Once you get it, if you see zero deployments, or he has a job that would never see combat, so even if he did deploy he was guaranteed to have stayed on base, you'll know he's FOS.
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Posted: 5/23/2015 3:10:59 AM EDT
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From what I gather, it's complicated... My buddy is the guy's supervisor, but not his boss exactly. So the guy is some kind of dirt bag, he shows up drunk, doesn't do his job and my buddy is on the hook covering for him. Well, apparently, he started talking shit to the other people at work, saying my friend fucked this up and fucked that up...damaging his reputation with his peers. The guy apparently talks all kinds of shit about what he did in the war...he cut some guy's balls off to make him talk, he did this and that, whatever. But apparently the boss won't fire the guy because he's a vet, so my friend wants to see if he can prove otherwise. That right there proves it isn't me...my boss would never put me in charge of any one, and the one time they tried I weaseled out of it.
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Ask him for his DD214 If some civilian demanded to see my DD214 - I'd tell him to ram it. It isn't like a PTSD badge is going to be on his 214. Ask to see his rating or code sheet if you're going to demand paperwork. Papers please! Seriously, who cares about this shit enough to even pursue it? From what I gather, it's complicated... My buddy is the guy's supervisor, but not his boss exactly. So the guy is some kind of dirt bag, he shows up drunk, doesn't do his job and my buddy is on the hook covering for him. Well, apparently, he started talking shit to the other people at work, saying my friend fucked this up and fucked that up...damaging his reputation with his peers. The guy apparently talks all kinds of shit about what he did in the war...he cut some guy's balls off to make him talk, he did this and that, whatever. But apparently the boss won't fire the guy because he's a vet, so my friend wants to see if he can prove otherwise. That right there proves it isn't me...my boss would never put me in charge of any one, and the one time they tried I weaseled out of it.
The boss or HR should have confirmed he was a vet on hiring. If anybody (vet or not) has substance issues and is treating, getting rid of them can be a problem. ADA laws etc. BUT, they need to sit him down, counsel on deficiencies, document problems and let HR and Management. If he is a Vet and is having problems, local Vets services organizations can help in confirming status, if he is a poser, they will find out. We just let a disabled vet go, he started coming to work drunk, he got referred to a variety of assistance points, and people tried to help cover for him, but he got dangerous to be around. There is no good reason to be drunk at work. |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 3:33:08 AM EDT
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Ask him what he thinks of Army (insert branch here) wives. If he says "the show?" He's probably lying.
If he says "99% are fat whores who bang some dude once their husband deploys." He may be legit. Follow up with: "what do you think of the FRG?" If his response is positive, he's probably lying. But, if his response is negative and he has a negative view of the wives, then I wouldn't question him further. |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 4:06:16 AM EDT
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4187's instead of 240's. whoa! What's a 4187? It sounds way bigger than a "240"! |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 8:24:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You certainly won't be able to get his medical records to look for a PTSD diagnosis, but you can absolutely FOIA his DD214. Once you get it, if you see zero deployments, or he has a job that would never see combat, so even if he did deploy he was guaranteed to have stayed on base, you'll know he's FOS. MST. Maybe he bit his rapist's nuts off. |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 8:26:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: whoa! What's a 4187? It sounds way bigger than a "240"! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 4187's instead of 240's. whoa! What's a 4187? It sounds way bigger than a "240"! It's the most powerful weapon in the Army's arsenal. |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 8:32:22 AM EDT
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Why give him special treatment?
Fuck that guy and his excuses. |
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Posted: 5/23/2015 8:33:03 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/23/2015 8:45:00 AM EDT
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Get one of those dummy training grenades and roll it into the lunch room. If he throws himself on it he is faking it. If he curls up in a ball and pees himself he probably has ptsd.
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Posted: 5/23/2015 8:46:30 AM EDT
[#47]
catch him in a lie or just MYOB
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Posted: 5/23/2015 8:47:21 AM EDT
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If someone is a prick, they were likely a prick before they went in, while they were in, and after they got out, PTSD be damned.
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Posted: 5/23/2015 8:56:12 AM EDT
[#49]
In, I guess.
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Posted: 5/23/2015 9:41:18 AM EDT
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I'm skeptical of anything the OP says. The people that claim there will be no drama for them are usually the ones that like to create drama for everyone else.
Kinda like what's happening here. |
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