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Posted: 1/31/2015 2:20:02 PM EDT
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So someone who has what appears to be a terrible driving record and perhaps doesn't have a license and is maybe unable to get insurance, uses customers cars, customers fuel, customers insurance, etc. etc. to run their errands?? Sounds like a good job perk!!
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Posted: 1/31/2015 2:20:16 PM EDT
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Good point. I looked up his driving record. http://i.imgur.com/noZARJY.jpg http://i.imgur.com/tu3rSxf.jpg http://i.imgur.com/CvkrZYP.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who all is authorized to take these customers cars home from the dealership for diagnosis purposes? Any tard that happens to be employed there? Good point. I looked up his driving record. http://i.imgur.com/noZARJY.jpg http://i.imgur.com/tu3rSxf.jpg http://i.imgur.com/CvkrZYP.jpg OP I would make sure that your lawyer knows about his record. I also see that he has been in trouble for drugs or paraphernalia I would be concern that he left some stuff in my car or that he was dope up at the time od the accident. Also I may have missed it was there a police report. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 2:21:19 PM EDT
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Because everyone walks around carrying deer hair and blood with them just incase a situation arises. Good thing people in Ohio can't hunt deer, or claim carcasses that have been hit....oh wait. The police report would be great, as well as a picture of the deer he killed. Instead, you're going to believe the tech? The same guy who causes tons of accidents and flees accident scenes? He was on the way home from school. Such a nice boy..................dindu...............nuffin............ |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 2:22:53 PM EDT
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Is it in fact deer hair? Could be. Shitbags tend to plan out their deceit fairly well at times and have some plans in anticipation. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 2:27:23 PM EDT
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Well, without a sample and access to a biologist, I can't say for certain, but it certainly looked like it in the video. Look, I'll buy it was a deer strike, but if that driving history belongs to the employee that wrecked it, he shouldn't have been working in any "test drive" capacity for his employer. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 2:27:55 PM EDT
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Good thing people in Ohio can't hunt deer, or claim carcasses that have been hit....oh wait. The police report would be great, as well as a picture of the deer he killed. Instead, you're going to believe the tech? The same guy who causes tons of accidents and flees accident scenes? He was on the way home from school. Such a nice boy..................dindu...............nuffin............ Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Because everyone walks around carrying deer hair and blood with them just incase a situation arises. Good thing people in Ohio can't hunt deer, or claim carcasses that have been hit....oh wait. The police report would be great, as well as a picture of the deer he killed. Instead, you're going to believe the tech? The same guy who causes tons of accidents and flees accident scenes? He was on the way home from school. Such a nice boy..................dindu...............nuffin............ So let me get this straight....your claim is the tech hit a waste management dumpster and then went and shot a deer or claimed a carcass so he could put the deer hair all over the front if the car??? He did this in a span of what 15-30 minutes? Are you seriously delusional? And your basing all of this off of what exactly? From the video that the OP presented to us I think it's a bit more believeable that he hit a deer. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 2:36:23 PM EDT
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LOL at the Facebook comments.
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Posted: 1/31/2015 2:39:40 PM EDT
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I don't remember if there is a police report? There sure as hell better be. What does it say?
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Posted: 1/31/2015 2:42:20 PM EDT
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Well, without a sample and access to a biologist, I can't say for certain, but it certainly looked like it in the video. Look, I'll buy it was a deer strike, but if that driving history belongs to the employee that wrecked it, he shouldn't have been working in any "test drive" capacity for his employer. I think hitting a deer is the most likely explanation....but there are a number of questions involved with this...most notably, why was a service adviser with a very poor driving record doing an "eval test drive"? |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 2:49:32 PM EDT
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LOL at the Facebook comments. Any idea why "every town for gun safety" has liked every single post on there Facebook? |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 2:52:28 PM EDT
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After looking at the pictures and watching the video again I am questioning the deer strike even though there appears to be hair in the car. If you look at the 3rd picture in the area where the hood is raised up it looks like the paint as been rub off to metal. Also in the second picture looking at the edge of the hood in the same area it looks like the metal is ripped apart and in the video it looks like scratches running across the hood in the area where it is bent down just above the headlight. Until someone can explain these things I am going to agree with others that the car was driven under something. If this is true the question now is where did the hair come from?
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Posted: 1/31/2015 2:57:07 PM EDT
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I see some are defending the practice of driving the car outside of work for diagnostic testing. Would those people kindly explain the appropriateness of leaving the customer's car UNATTENDED in a college parking lot? Is the customer responsible for all the door dings and other possible damage to the unattended vehicle? |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 3:03:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any idea why "every town for gun safety" has liked every single post on there Facebook? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: LOL at the Facebook comments. Any idea why "every town for gun safety" has liked every single post on there Facebook? Ol Bloomberg must be an ARFCOMr |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 3:04:16 PM EDT
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Any idea why "every town for gun safety" has liked every single post on there Facebook? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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LOL at the Facebook comments. Any idea why "every town for gun safety" has liked every single post on there Facebook? maybe we have a "mole" from those lunatics reading this thread? |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 3:04:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is it in fact deer hair? Maybe he hit a furry. Wasn't there a CSI episode about that? |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 3:08:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: maybe we have a "mole" from those lunatics reading this thread? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: LOL at the Facebook comments. Any idea why "every town for gun safety" has liked every single post on there Facebook? maybe we have a "mole" from those lunatics reading this thread? (Sorry for thread drift) |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 3:11:41 PM EDT
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I see some are defending the practice of driving the car outside of work for diagnostic testing. Would those people kindly explain the appropriateness of leaving the customer's car UNATTENDED in a college parking lot? Is the customer responsible for all the door dings and other possible damage to the unattended vehicle? The car would be unattended sitting in the dealers parking lot or at the techs home as well. It really isn't relevant to the situation. The car wasn't damaged while sitting in the parking lot. It was damaged while road testing the vehicle( which the OP agreed to). The customer "shouldn't" be responsible for any damage acquired while the vehicle was in the dealers possession. Although admittedly it doesn't always work out like that. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 3:16:40 PM EDT
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The car would be unattended sitting in the dealers parking lot or at the techs home as well. It really isn't relevant to the situation. The car wasn't damaged while sitting in the parking lot. It was damaged while road testing the vehicle( which the OP agreed to). The customer "shouldn't" be responsible for any damage acquired while the vehicle was in the dealers possession. Although admittedly it doesn't always work out like that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I see some are defending the practice of driving the car outside of work for diagnostic testing. Would those people kindly explain the appropriateness of leaving the customer's car UNATTENDED in a college parking lot? Is the customer responsible for all the door dings and other possible damage to the unattended vehicle? The car would be unattended sitting in the dealers parking lot or at the techs home as well. It really isn't relevant to the situation. The car wasn't damaged while sitting in the parking lot. It was damaged while road testing the vehicle( which the OP agreed to). The customer "shouldn't" be responsible for any damage acquired while the vehicle was in the dealers possession. Although admittedly it doesn't always work out like that. Did you even read anything before you posted? 
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Posted: 1/31/2015 3:19:21 PM EDT
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The car would be unattended sitting in the dealers parking lot or at the techs home as well. It really isn't relevant to the situation. The car wasn't damaged while sitting in the parking lot. It was damaged while road testing the vehicle( which the OP agreed to). The customer "shouldn't" be responsible for any damage acquired while the vehicle was in the dealers possession. Although admittedly it doesn't always work out like that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I see some are defending the practice of driving the car outside of work for diagnostic testing. Would those people kindly explain the appropriateness of leaving the customer's car UNATTENDED in a college parking lot? Is the customer responsible for all the door dings and other possible damage to the unattended vehicle? The car would be unattended sitting in the dealers parking lot or at the techs home as well. It really isn't relevant to the situation. The car wasn't damaged while sitting in the parking lot. It was damaged while road testing the vehicle( which the OP agreed to). The customer "shouldn't" be responsible for any damage acquired while the vehicle was in the dealers possession. Although admittedly it doesn't always work out like that. I think that a dealer's parking lot and someone's driveway are a lot more secure than a college parking lot. I KNOW how many dings that I got parking in one throughout college. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 3:21:24 PM EDT
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I wouldnt care what the guy working for the dealership hit. Obviously hit something while in their possession, that some major damage, I would scream and shout until i had a new model
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Posted: 1/31/2015 3:40:07 PM EDT
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I love the reviews on their facebook page |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 4:04:45 PM EDT
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Did you even read anything before you posted? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I see some are defending the practice of driving the car outside of work for diagnostic testing. Would those people kindly explain the appropriateness of leaving the customer's car UNATTENDED in a college parking lot? Is the customer responsible for all the door dings and other possible damage to the unattended vehicle? The car would be unattended sitting in the dealers parking lot or at the techs home as well. It really isn't relevant to the situation. The car wasn't damaged while sitting in the parking lot. It was damaged while road testing the vehicle( which the OP agreed to). The customer "shouldn't" be responsible for any damage acquired while the vehicle was in the dealers possession. Although admittedly it doesn't always work out like that. Did you even read anything before you posted? If your talking to me yes I've read the entire thread. What part exactly of what I said is hard for you to comprehend? |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 4:44:34 PM EDT
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With the amount of purse swinging going on in this thread, the OP could buy a new car with the change scattered on the ground.
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Posted: 1/31/2015 5:06:27 PM EDT
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Any idea why "every town for gun safety" has liked every single post on there Facebook? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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LOL at the Facebook comments. Any idea why "every town for gun safety" has liked every single post on there Facebook? As soon as Bloomberg announced the name of his new group, a pro-guy guy scooped up the name on facebook and made it into a pro-gun page. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 5:21:35 PM EDT
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Why is this story with the pictures and associate information about the shitbag tech not plastered all over the GD section at NASIOC?
Seriously, go post your story there now! NASIOC is the rabid Subaru owners version of arfGD, and they love shit like this. http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=68 |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 5:26:44 PM EDT
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You need to make a stand OP. Or else the practice of dealership service techs joyriding in customers cars under the guise of diagnostics will only get worse. Stop the plague now.
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Posted: 1/31/2015 5:26:56 PM EDT
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With the amount of purse swinging going on in this thread, the OP could buy a new car with the change scattered on the ground. Let's swing our purses together, instead of at each other. 
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Posted: 1/31/2015 5:31:14 PM EDT
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Ohio's wiretap statute only applies to a third party recording/intercepting a communication. Parties to a conversation can record each other. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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lawyer up and take it to them make sure you get some stock out of the deal too for good measure  Ohio is a one party state. Record ALL conversations with dealership and representatives. Ohio's wiretap statute only applies to a third party recording/intercepting a communication. Parties to a conversation can record each other. Yes, only one party involved in the conversation needs to be aware its being recorded. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 6:07:17 PM EDT
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Is it in fact deer hair? My money is on midgets. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 6:17:50 PM EDT
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holy shiet, that tech is a bad driver Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who all is authorized to take these customers cars home from the dealership for diagnosis purposes? Any tard that happens to be employed there? Good point. I looked up his driving record. http://i.imgur.com/noZARJY.jpg http://i.imgur.com/tu3rSxf.jpg http://i.imgur.com/wFp8aoW.jpg holy shiet, that tech is a bad driver thought it was posted earlier that the driver was the service manager, now service adviser not one of the service techs. drug offenses and underage drinking on record? |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 6:34:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: thought it was posted earlier that the driver was the service manager, not one of the service techs. drug offenses and underage drinking on record? Quote HistoryQuoted: SNIP thought it was posted earlier that the driver was the service manager, not one of the service techs. drug offenses and underage drinking on record? |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 7:07:02 PM EDT
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My money is on midgets. manbearpig FIFY Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is it in fact deer hair? My money is on midgets. manbearpig FIFY |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 7:09:47 PM EDT
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These fuckers who fucked up your car can't stand you. You embody everything they hate about the world. Don't let them jit up in your ass.
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Posted: 1/31/2015 7:10:51 PM EDT
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If a few people called the dealership saying they just saw the news report about this they would really start panicking.
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Posted: 1/31/2015 7:13:29 PM EDT
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I have a loaner since it went in for service on the CEL last Friday. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Spoke with service manager today. According to him we are going nowhere until they talk to my insurance. There was also no mention of whether or not the have ordered a replacement 2015 WRX. What are you driving right now? Did they give you a loaner since your car has been taken from you? Do you have a rental? I have a loaner since it went in for service on the CEL last Friday. I'd drive around every wooded fucking forest area with that loaner then when Bambi gets hit, leave it in their showroom. Just sayin...
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Posted: 1/31/2015 7:19:12 PM EDT
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I'd drive around every wooded fucking forest area with that loaner then when Bambi gets hit, leave it in their showroom. Just sayin...
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Spoke with service manager today. According to him we are going nowhere until they talk to my insurance. There was also no mention of whether or not the have ordered a replacement 2015 WRX. What are you driving right now? Did they give you a loaner since your car has been taken from you? Do you have a rental? I have a loaner since it went in for service on the CEL last Friday. I'd drive around every wooded fucking forest area with that loaner then when Bambi gets hit, leave it in their showroom. Just sayin...
Unlike some people/dealerships, I take great care of what is entrusted to me. That loaner is in a heated garage and kept under lock and key. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 7:49:58 PM EDT
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The OP deserves to be made 100% whole, due to the dealership letting morons fuck with his car outside terms of the agreement. Not OP's fault that the dealership had a shitbag employee, or had lax rules. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How much does the "little consumer vs big business" mentality play into these situations? If the scenario involved a small mom 'n pop type operation and the restitution demanded would put them on the brink of bankruptcy, would as many posters hold the same opinion? Where does that line lie? The OP deserves to be made 100% whole, due to the dealership letting morons fuck with his car outside terms of the agreement. Not OP's fault that the dealership had a shitbag employee, or had lax rules. This. 100% whole. If the dealership wants to take the legal gamble of a less-than-whole insurance settlement to save a couple thousand dollars, that's their choice, and their risk. Whole should be the standard, and if being made whole incurs legal expenses, then that should all be part of it. Whether it was Charles Manson of the Pope doing the diagnostic drive, I don't think it matters with regard to making the owner of the car whole. If it's the former, then the dealership should be thinking really hard before giving the owner the run around. It's a calculated decision by the dealership. Let's see how they roll the dice. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 7:52:27 PM EDT
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Spoke with service manager today. According to him we are going nowhere until they talk to my insurance. There was also no mention of whether or not the have ordered a replacement 2015 WRX. Whoa. Just saw this part. They chose ... poorly. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 8:15:31 PM EDT
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With the amount of purse swinging going on in this thread, the OP could buy a new car with the change scattered on the ground. Let's swing our purses together, instead of at each other. Blowing up their Facebook now isn't going to help you - it is probably going to hurt you in the long run. That should have been a last resort - you don't want them to make the decision to stop dealing with you, lock down their FB page, stop dealing with you, & make a post stating "dealerships insurance repaired the car with no cost to the owner" (or something like that) if your goal is to get them to give you a new car. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 8:19:24 PM EDT
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Blowing up their Facebook now isn't going to help you - it is probably going to hurt you in the long run. That should have been a last resort - you don't want them to make the decision to stop dealing with you, lock down their FB page, stop dealing with you, & make a post stating "dealerships insurance repaired the car with no cost to the owner" (or something like that) if your goal is to get them to give you a new car. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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With the amount of purse swinging going on in this thread, the OP could buy a new car with the change scattered on the ground. Let's swing our purses together, instead of at each other. Blowing up their Facebook now isn't going to help you - it is probably going to hurt you in the long run. That should have been a last resort - you don't want them to make the decision to stop dealing with you, lock down their FB page, stop dealing with you, & make a post stating "dealerships insurance repaired the car with no cost to the owner" (or something like that) if your goal is to get them to give you a new car. The dealership originally replied on Facebook they were investigating the wreck. Now it appears they just delete the comments. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 8:23:14 PM EDT
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Blowing up their Facebook now isn't going to help you - it is probably going to hurt you in the long run. That should have been a last resort - you don't want them to make the decision to stop dealing with you, lock down their FB page, stop dealing with you, & make a post stating "dealerships insurance repaired the car with no cost to the owner" (or something like that) if your goal is to get them to give you a new car. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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With the amount of purse swinging going on in this thread, the OP could buy a new car with the change scattered on the ground. Let's swing our purses together, instead of at each other. Blowing up their Facebook now isn't going to help you - it is probably going to hurt you in the long run. That should have been a last resort - you don't want them to make the decision to stop dealing with you, lock down their FB page, stop dealing with you, & make a post stating "dealerships insurance repaired the car with no cost to the owner" (or something like that) if your goal is to get them to give you a new car. I didn't personally blow up their FB, but many others did and I don't blame them. Locking down their FB and turtling doesn't save them from the multitude of FB groups, forums, reddit and personal pages that are talking about it. They already made the decision to fuck me. I'm not worried about it. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 8:24:00 PM EDT
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The dealership originally replied on Facebook they were investigating the wreck. Now it appears they just delete the comments. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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With the amount of purse swinging going on in this thread, the OP could buy a new car with the change scattered on the ground. Let's swing our purses together, instead of at each other. Blowing up their Facebook now isn't going to help you - it is probably going to hurt you in the long run. That should have been a last resort - you don't want them to make the decision to stop dealing with you, lock down their FB page, stop dealing with you, & make a post stating "dealerships insurance repaired the car with no cost to the owner" (or something like that) if your goal is to get them to give you a new car. The dealership originally replied on Facebook they were investigating the wreck. Now it appears they just delete the comments. Right, once they make a determination that they can't make the OP happy, or that it won't matter what they do from this point forward, they will just stop taking his calls & refer him to their insurance company. Never shoot all your bullets at once... |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 8:28:18 PM EDT
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Right, once they make a determination that they can't make the OP happy, or that it won't matter what they do from this point forward, they will just stop taking his calls & refer him to their insurance company. Never shoot all your bullets at once... Let me correct that for you: Once the dealership decided to abdicate all responsibility and try to screw the car owner, potentially as a coverup for their negligence, they resort to deleting their Facebook comments in a futile effort to stop negative publicity. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 8:32:17 PM EDT
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Holly shit!
New car like everyone said. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 8:36:35 PM EDT
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Any good place will take care of the problem. I work in a large retail chain that has well over 2000 stores in the country. Since I've been there I have seen 5 or so bad wecks in the last 11 years. It has always been the other drivers fault, and the car owners have always been taken care of by out shops insurance. I'm glad you got a new car OP, it's good to see a place do a stand up thing. I work in NJ, so it sucks. The land of making left turns from the right lane and thinking yield sign means go..... OP didn't get a new car. Oops, I thought he said he was |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 8:37:17 PM EDT
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Let me correct that for you: Once the dealership decided to abdicate all responsibility and try to screw the car owner, potentially as a coverup for their negligence, they resort to deleting their Facebook comments in a futile effort to stop negative publicity. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Right, once they make a determination that they can't make the OP happy, or that it won't matter what they do from this point forward, they will just stop taking his calls & refer him to their insurance company. Never shoot all your bullets at once... Let me correct that for you: Once the dealership decided to abdicate all responsibility and try to screw the car owner, potentially as a coverup for their negligence, they resort to deleting their Facebook comments in a futile effort to stop negative publicity. But you don't know that they didn't make that decision already. They tried (& failed) to put it on the OP's insurance, now they are going through theirs. Their insurance might even require them to do that first, you don't know what their policy requires. Car will be fixed either way, now the issue is what they will do for him after the car is fixed. If the goal is to get them to tell OP to fuck off, then you're on the right track. If the goal is to get them to take back the car & give him a new one, this isn't going to work. Anybody with a business page is going to delete negative comments - it would be stupid to leave them there - so this isn't a surprise. At the end of the day they'll post something about the situation being rectified through insurance (& maybe even say that the employee involved no longer works there - not sure how they could keep him after this & after they see his driving record). |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 8:39:43 PM EDT
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Let me correct that for you: Once the dealership decided to abdicate all responsibility and try to screw the car owner, potentially as a coverup for their negligence, they resort to deleting their Facebook comments in a futile effort to stop negative publicity. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Right, once they make a determination that they can't make the OP happy, or that it won't matter what they do from this point forward, they will just stop taking his calls & refer him to their insurance company. Never shoot all your bullets at once... Let me correct that for you: Once the dealership decided to abdicate all responsibility and try to screw the car owner, potentially as a coverup for their negligence, they resort to deleting their Facebook comments in a futile effort to stop negative publicity. I've already been contacted by the local news media. There may be a story in the works. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 8:39:52 PM EDT
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Any good place will take care of the problem. I work in a large retail chain that has well over 2000 stores in the country. Since I've been there I have seen 5 or so bad wecks in the last 11 years. It has always been the other drivers fault, and the car owners have always been taken care of by out shops insurance. I'm glad you got a new car OP, it's good to see a place do a stand up thing. I work in NJ, so it sucks. The land of making left turns from the right lane and thinking yield sign means go..... OP didn't get a new car. Oops, I thought he said he was A lot of different people at the dealership were involved & they apparently changed their minds. OP is in limbo now, all he knows is that their insurance will pay to repair the car. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 8:41:47 PM EDT
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The dealership originally replied on Facebook they were investigating the wreck. Now it appears they just delete the comments. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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With the amount of purse swinging going on in this thread, the OP could buy a new car with the change scattered on the ground. Let's swing our purses together, instead of at each other. Blowing up their Facebook now isn't going to help you - it is probably going to hurt you in the long run. That should have been a last resort - you don't want them to make the decision to stop dealing with you, lock down their FB page, stop dealing with you, & make a post stating "dealerships insurance repaired the car with no cost to the owner" (or something like that) if your goal is to get them to give you a new car. The dealership originally replied on Facebook they were investigating the wreck. Now it appears they just delete the comments. their reply is still there, as well as the questions from people asking about the outcome of this situation. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 8:46:14 PM EDT
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Well now I know where to NEVER take my Subaru.
Have some friends looking at WRX's. I'll let them know to avoid this place. |
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