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Link Posted: 10/25/2014 6:02:07 AM EDT
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I knew a guy who got a DUI for sleeping in his car in the parking lot of a hotel.  



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Same. An employee was sleeping it off and got busted. Had not drove anywhere.

 



What if I'm in my camper and had a few?
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 6:07:08 AM EDT
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YEP! Had a guy that almost killed me...in court it came out it was his THIRD OFFENSE!
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You yank their license, they drive anyway.

YEP! Had a guy that almost killed me...in court it came out it was his THIRD OFFENSE!

Third?
I've arrested people driving with over 100 suspensions and revocations.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 6:54:34 AM EDT
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You yank their license, they drive anyway.

YEP! Had a guy that almost killed me...in court it came out it was his THIRD OFFENSE!

Third?
I've arrested people driving with over 100 suspensions and revocations.


And that right there, is why DUI laws are the equivalent to gun control laws. They aren't going to stop anyone from doing what they want, even with stiffer penalties. But hey, if the state is in need of bodies and revenue, and the screeching "there should be a law" harpies get to climax once in a while, it's all good.

Gotta feel safe.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 7:44:41 AM EDT
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I knew a kid who got ten days in county and lost his license for a year for walking past a liquor store with his car keys in his pocket.
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I knew a guy who got a DUI for sleeping in his car in the parking lot of a hotel.  

ETA: it was a party at the hotel, he didn't randomly pull into one while drunk.


I knew a kid busted for DUI cause he had the keys in the ignition to play the radio.  Kid wasn't even in the car, engine wasn't running.

I knew a kid who got ten days in county and lost his license for a year for walking past a liquor store with his car keys in his pocket.


Was he blind the whole time?




Fuck drunk drivers. They should get a fair trial and a decent hangin' . . .
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 7:46:39 AM EDT
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And that right there, is why DUI laws are the equivalent to gun control laws.
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You yank their license, they drive anyway.

YEP! Had a guy that almost killed me...in court it came out it was his THIRD OFFENSE!

Third?
I've arrested people driving with over 100 suspensions and revocations.

And that right there, is why DUI laws are the equivalent to gun control laws.

Not all of them were from a DUI but suspending/revoking a person's license does nothing.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 8:24:30 AM EDT
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I don't look at socialist nations for legal philosophy.
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Maybe if Driver's Licenses didn't come out of a Cracker Jack box, then people wouldn't risk it to DUI.

ETA: Look at Germany. You get one, and you're done, but it takes years of training, and several thousand dollars to get a license, so you're properly motivated not to drink and drive.


I don't look at socialist nations for legal philosophy.


Spoken like a true 14er.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 8:33:08 AM EDT
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This is complete, total bullshit.
Another case of punishing someone for responsible behavior.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 8:42:55 AM EDT
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1st offense.... $5,000 fine and 1-year suspension.



2nd offense.... death penalty.





Actually, I'd like to see that sentencing protocol applied to a long list of felonies - white collar crimes included.



Fool me once, shame on me.  Fool me twice.... DIE MOTHERFUCKER.



We hear the phrase "lengthy criminal history" too often these days.  And it's associated with a rape or a murder or the fleecing of investors WAY too often.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 8:44:14 AM EDT
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I have done several wet labs where people get drunk for testing practice and have yet to see someone hit .08 with 2 drinks

Not saying it couldn't happen just saying 99% of people caught DWI are full of shit
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Two beers to have your license revoked? Fuck off... and they keep lowering the BAC limit... nope.gif




I have done several wet labs where people get drunk for testing practice and have yet to see someone hit .08 with 2 drinks

Not saying it couldn't happen just saying 99% of people caught DWI are full of shit


I have a pretty accurate breathalyzer (fun at parties...) and .08% is way drunker than most people think it is.



 
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You yank their license, they drive anyway.






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Yeah, but that gives me a chance to randomly run their tags, observe them driving suspended, and stop them and give them another criminal citation.
I got pulled in a customer's car for that. Stopped, searched, patted down, and given the riot act. Thought I was going to jail.






How the hell do I know the owner has trouble on him and why would I care?


 






Pulling a car with legit papers because the tagged owner has a bad license is over the line.
 



 

I can't do that anyway. My understanding is that if the driver is not the suspended person, the stop is over immediately, no questions, no search, no further contact.
That's what I thought as well. He was a real dick about it though. I never pursued it any farther because frankly I don't have the time.


 



ETA: It started with the usual "do you know why I pulled you over?" (I was speeding, but he didn't see that) Moved to your license is suspended,(mine is fine) then get out of the car,(why?) then who's car is this,(customer's car) why are you driving it,(customer's car is broken. I fix) hands against the roof,(fuck this noise man, I'm at work) now behind your back, I'm searching the car(fuck you cop--bad move on my part) then his backup arrived and he cut me loose without another word.




All the while, I'm in my company uniform, with a repair order and scantool in the car. Still to this day don't know exactly what happened.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 9:46:40 AM EDT
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We got that shit in Florida.

Ruining too many innocent lives.

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It may sound like a good idea, but they keep lowering the level where you're drunk, and people have to get to work and do other things n their lives.  If you live in NYC, you may not need a car.  If you live  in other areas you essentially can't live w/o a vehicle.   Revoking a license is too harsh and not likely to achieve the desired goal.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 9:47:13 AM EDT
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In other news, more than 37% of people are morons...
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 9:49:02 AM EDT
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One year revocation for first offense, permanent for second.

Texting or cell phone, first offense and you walk for five years. second time for life.
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I agree with this as well.  The right to travel freely was honoured for a long time in this country, but no more apparently.  It is unfortunate that the proponents of state controul over our lives have been highly effective at getting people to accept the idea of "driving is a privilege, not a right."
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I don't think driver's licenses should exist.



I agree with this as well.  The right to travel freely was honoured for a long time in this country, but no more apparently.  It is unfortunate that the proponents of state controul over our lives have been highly effective at getting people to accept the idea of "driving is a privilege, not a right."

You have the right to travel, but not necessarily by car... Im fine proving competency to drive/know lawx regardin driving.

I think there needs to be a 3-strikes type of system.  First time, 6 month suspensio, second time, 1 yr, third time, lifetime ba. Being stupid should hurt.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 12:21:33 PM EDT
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The Shariah law that some of you nanny-state dipshits want to live under is worse than what the liberals want.
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There is a booming industry building and selling bicycles with weedeater motors on them here in Florida...For people who are not allowed to drive anymore.
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You can still get a DUI on those in Ohio.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 12:24:59 PM EDT
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You can still get a DUI on those in Ohio.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 12:29:08 PM EDT
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They talk the talk, but won't walk the walk when it comes time to. That's the arfcom way!
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 12:43:40 PM EDT
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Why would an experienced and worldly cynic buy that simple minded panacea?  That doesn't work anywhere.



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If you really want to stop DUI, build a public transit system.




Why would an experienced and worldly cynic buy that simple minded panacea?  That doesn't work anywhere.



Well, except for all of Western Europe.  

 
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 12:46:18 PM EDT
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lol, driving is not a right if you're going to use roads paid for by taxes.
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driving is a right

anyway revoking driver's license for DUI on a bicycle, lawnmower or something is out of line.  It happens


lol, driving is not a right if you're going to use roads paid for by taxes.



Then why can I get a DUI on my own property?
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 1:24:48 PM EDT
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You can still get a DUI on those in Ohio.
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There is a booming industry building and selling bicycles with weedeater motors on them here in Florida...For people who are not allowed to drive anymore.


You can still get a DUI on those in Ohio.


You can get a DUI on them here too.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 1:27:37 PM EDT
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Charging people for DUI is just like gun laws.

Merely driving under the influence causes NO HARM to another.

It's like laws against full auto, >10 round mags etc.

I don't care what people possess, I care what damage they do.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 2:33:03 PM EDT
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And that right there, is why DUI laws are the equivalent to gun control laws. They aren't going to stop anyone from doing what they want, even with stiffer penalties. But hey, if the state is in need of bodies and revenue, and the screeching "there should be a law" harpies get to climax once in a while, it's all good.

Gotta feel safe.
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You yank their license, they drive anyway.

YEP! Had a guy that almost killed me...in court it came out it was his THIRD OFFENSE!

Third?
I've arrested people driving with over 100 suspensions and revocations.


And that right there, is why DUI laws are the equivalent to gun control laws. They aren't going to stop anyone from doing what they want, even with stiffer penalties. But hey, if the state is in need of bodies and revenue, and the screeching "there should be a law" harpies get to climax once in a while, it's all good.

Gotta feel safe.


You could say that for all laws then.

Link Posted: 10/25/2014 3:22:37 PM EDT
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Raise the legal limit a bit.

First offense? Car impounded for a year. Or six months in jail. You pick.

Second offense? Kill them.

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I don't believe in raising the legal age limit, maybe just for civilians.  IMO, if one is willing to sacrifice his life for his country, then one should be able to get a beer or two.  Just don't get caught driving while under the influence.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 3:52:41 PM EDT
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all the people crying about "freedom" and shit.


your freedom killed somebody, you don't deserve it. yea, I said it. My brother had his license revoked for driving under the influence and buying heroin. I called him a asshole everyday until the day he died from his stupid "freedom" choices.








Link Posted: 10/25/2014 3:56:33 PM EDT
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Not all of them were from a DUI but suspending/revoking a person's license does nothing.
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This.

I check a boatload of IDs every day (liquor store).

I see at least two or three a day of the "ID ONLY -- NOT A LICENSE TO OPERATE A MOTOR VEHICLE" photo IDs that TN issues to those with suspended/revoked licenses.  Damn near all of them drive here.

Worst case scenario, they get pulled over and fined more money (that they aren't gonna pay anyway).  
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 4:00:34 PM EDT
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YES

DUI  Alcohol and Marijuana
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 4:16:34 PM EDT
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Drink and drive?
Fuck you.

Walk motherfucker.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 4:20:25 PM EDT
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Revoking licenses won't keep them from driving.  Now if states passed a law that says anyone who is accused of DUII gets the vehicle they were driving seized and held pending out come of the charge (REGARDLESS OF WHO OWNS IT) then people would be much more careful.  Other folks wouldn't loan out their vehicles, and people wouldn't give car loans to anyone who had a prior duii.  If someone passes a breath test, and the field sobriety test, they wouldn't even be charged.

If they are convicted, the vehicle, and everything in it, or attached to it automatically is forfeit to the state.  

Something like that would really frighten people into better (although not complete) compliance.  Nothing else seems to work.
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There is a booming industry building and selling bicycles with weedeater motors on them here in Florida...For people who are not allowed to drive anymore.




You can still get a DUI on those in Ohio.




 



Yup, happened to a friend of mine. (Regular bicycle though)
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 4:22:33 PM EDT
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You, sir, have herped a derp.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 4:25:43 PM EDT
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fuck that, that's not harsh enough.  i work in claims for an insurance company, weekly i get at least one claim where someone is out driving around with out a license.  they dont give a fuck.  a lot of time it's the illegals from down south too.  


i think they should get a choice.  you lose a hand or you can go to jail for 3 months.  no getting out early, no plea bargin, no good behavior, none of that bullshit.  everyone always says that the punishment should fit the crime, i think it should far exceed it.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 4:33:59 PM EDT
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fuck that, that's not harsh enough.  i work in claims for an insurance company, weekly i get at least one claim where someone is out driving around with out a license.  they dont give a fuck.  a lot of time it's the illegals from down south too.  


i think they should get a choice.  you lose a hand or you can go to jail for 3 months.  no getting out early, no plea bargin, no good behavior, none of that bullshit.  everyone always says that the punishment should fit the crime, i think it should far exceed it.
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You should move to Saudi Arabia.  You would fit in better.
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fuck that, that's not harsh enough.  i work in claims for an insurance company, weekly i get at least one claim where someone is out driving around with out a license.  they dont give a fuck.  a lot of time it's the illegals from down south too.  


i think they should get a choice.  you lose a hand or you can go to jail for 3 months.  no getting out early, no plea bargin, no good behavior, none of that bullshit.  everyone always says that the punishment should fit the crime, i think it should far exceed it.
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Sounds like you need to get laid or get a new job.
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1st offense.... $5,000 fine and 1-year suspension.

2nd offense.... death penalty.


Actually, I'd like to see that sentencing protocol applied to a long list of felonies - white collar crimes included.

Fool me once, shame on me.  Fool me twice.... DIE MOTHERFUCKER.

We hear the phrase "lengthy criminal history" too often these days.  And it's associated with a rape or a murder or the fleecing of investors WAY too often.
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For some people this is trivial, for others it will break them financially.  Some countries do fines as a percentage of income which I think would be a good idea here.  10% of your annual income would be a pretty stout fine regardless if you make minimum wage or you are Bill Gates.

I would also change the drinking age to something like 19 for beer, 20 for wine and 21 for hard liquor.

Speaking of Bill Gates and DUI's:


Link Posted: 10/25/2014 10:13:37 PM EDT
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I wanted to bump this so the contemporary adherents of the women's christian temperance movement could chastise we evildoers.
Link Posted: 10/26/2014 12:32:54 AM EDT
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Yup, happened to a friend of mine. (Regular bicycle though)
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There is a booming industry building and selling bicycles with weedeater motors on them here in Florida...For people who are not allowed to drive anymore.


You can still get a DUI on those in Ohio.

 

Yup, happened to a friend of mine. (Regular bicycle though)


Still don't get why it's a DUI.
Link Posted: 10/26/2014 1:01:31 AM EDT
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1st offense.... $5,000 fine and 1-year suspension.

2nd offense.... death penalty.


Actually, I'd like to see that sentencing protocol applied to a long list of felonies - white collar crimes included.

Fool me once, shame on me.  Fool me twice.... DIE MOTHERFUCKER.

We hear the phrase "lengthy criminal history" too often these days.  And it's associated with a rape or a murder or the fleecing of investors WAY too often.
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The MADD chicks will be soooooo hot for your D, bro. They love talk like that. Thry surely won't friendzone ya now.

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Still don't get why it's a DUI.


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There is a booming industry building and selling bicycles with weedeater motors on them here in Florida...For people who are not allowed to drive anymore.






You can still get a DUI on those in Ohio.



 





Yup, happened to a friend of mine. (Regular bicycle though)








Still don't get why it's a DUI.








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and power.  Once you're in the system they hate to let you go.





 
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this????

 
Link Posted: 10/26/2014 3:14:03 AM EDT
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Fuckit
I dot care anymre
Put everyone inb a 5 poiht racinbg harbess abd let everyone go all marioakart and shit.
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Fixed it for ya.



I think it's France that does that. Get caught DUI, and it's Bye Bye, Renault!



Drunk drivers suck. I hate 'em.

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They'll drive with or without a license. Take the car and crush it.




Fixed it for ya.



I think it's France that does that. Get caught DUI, and it's Bye Bye, Renault!



Drunk drivers suck. I hate 'em.

OMVI car!

 


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PA.  My former boss got one in March 2013.  Begged with the judge, single dad, lose my job, wimper wimper.  Got PTI.

Got another DUI in February this year.
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We got that shit in Florida.

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your freedom stops where my freedom starts
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And that right there, is why DUI laws are the equivalent to gun control laws. They aren't going to stop anyone from doing what they want, even with stiffer penalties. But hey, if the state is in need of bodies and revenue, and the screeching "there should be a law" harpies get to climax once in a while, it's all good.

Gotta feel safe.
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You yank their license, they drive anyway.

YEP! Had a guy that almost killed me...in court it came out it was his THIRD OFFENSE!

Third?
I've arrested people driving with over 100 suspensions and revocations.


And that right there, is why DUI laws are the equivalent to gun control laws. They aren't going to stop anyone from doing what they want, even with stiffer penalties. But hey, if the state is in need of bodies and revenue, and the screeching "there should be a law" harpies get to climax once in a while, it's all good.

Gotta feel safe.

your right, lows dont stop people from doing things. they outline punishments FOR doing them.
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Then why can I get a DUI on my own property?
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driving is a right

anyway revoking driver's license for DUI on a bicycle, lawnmower or something is out of line.  It happens


lol, driving is not a right if you're going to use roads paid for by taxes.



Then why can I get a DUI on my own property?

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You could say that for all laws then.

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Well, yes, sort of.  Laws only work on the law abiding, correct?
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Revoking licenses won't keep them from driving.  Now if states passed a law that says anyone who is accused of DUII gets the vehicle they were driving seized and held pending out come of the charge (REGARDLESS OF WHO OWNS IT) then people would be much more careful.  Other folks wouldn't loan out their vehicles, and people wouldn't give car loans to anyone who had a prior duii.  If someone passes a breath test, and the field sobriety test, they wouldn't even be charged.

If they are convicted, the vehicle, and everything in it, or attached to it automatically is forfeit to the state.  

Something like that would really frighten people into better (although not complete) compliance.  Nothing else seems to work.
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most states have that for certain levels of offence.
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I look at drunk drivers like I do pedophiles.

They won't stop until someone else stops them.

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