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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:16:38 AM EDT
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I don't get all the hate for JJ Abrams. I think he makes some good movies.
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:23:16 AM EDT
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I don't like it. The X-Wing is iconic. It should not be altered in any way, only faithfully reproduced.
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:23:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't get all the hate for JJ Abrams. I think he makes some good movies.  His list of accomplishments , directing,producing and writing, is quite impressive.....lots of decent films and series . |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:23:56 AM EDT
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I don't get all the hate for JJ Abrams. I think he makes some good movies. My only real complaints are about the lens flare and the machine-gun-like firing of phasers (the former is much worse than the latter). |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:24:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't like it. The X-Wing is iconic. It should not be altered in any way, only faithfully reproduced.   |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:26:41 AM EDT
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Don't be shit talking my A-Wing. not only is it faster the Falcon, out runs Ties while the pilot gives them the finger, but it also brought down a Super Star Destroyer! What's the X-Wing done besides taking out one and half "space stations?" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The movie is 30 years after "Jedi." Shirley (heh) you would expect some sort of advancement and improvement of design in that time period? The advancement in design is to sell more toys or to show audiences something "different." The designs in IV-VI were perfect, IMO. (except for the A-Wing) If this is a new ship, it's not that bad. I just hope they keep the X-Wing the same. At least it's not drastically different, and they've kept the same hull. Don't be shit talking my A-Wing. not only is it faster the Falcon, out runs Ties while the pilot gives them the finger, but it also brought down a Super Star Destroyer! What's the X-Wing done besides taking out one and half "space stations?" You can be my wingman, anytime! |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:27:23 AM EDT
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Ok, then that accounts for all of their fighters.............. Ahem. 
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:28:05 AM EDT
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You only NEED an R2 unit if you're going to go into hyperspace. If you are just going to fly around some, you don't have to have one. What I am LOVING about this new film is it looks like they are using a lot more full scale props and aliens. Less CGI. This will hopefully give it a more real, gritty feel of the original. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'd fly it.  I wouldn't. Stupid thing is missing its R2 unit. You only NEED an R2 unit if you're going to go into hyperspace. If you are just going to fly around some, you don't have to have one. What I am LOVING about this new film is it looks like they are using a lot more full scale props and aliens. Less CGI. This will hopefully give it a more real, gritty feel of the original. The Z-95 had an internal R2 pod (wookiepedia), maybe the new x-wing does as well? Besides, Right now I feel I could take on the whole empire myself, with or without an R2 unit! |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:28:32 AM EDT
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Cool video.
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:32:20 AM EDT
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I don't see it either. Notice the wing tops moving when the pilot climbs in. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anyone else notice that that the nose, wings and the majority of the body of the X-Wing appears to be computer generated? At least it looks like that on my screen... No I don't think so looking at it. J.J. Abrams is going though a lot of trouble to make this movie, for lack of a better term, "real." Minimal use of CGI compared to Ep. 1-3. ETA: second look - maybe. The shadow of the X-Wing doesn't cast the same as his own. I don't see it either. Notice the wing tops moving when the pilot climbs in. This. It's a classically built full size mockup. Brings a tear to my eye. They built some awesome ones for Aliens. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:32:53 AM EDT
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What with the Falcon and all. I have a feeling that they will be pulling stuff out of mothballs after years of peace. New Sith threat?
...and yeah, practical effects are movie magic, and kudos for the tean foing this direction. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:33:26 AM EDT
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What an odd double tap...?
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:33:46 AM EDT
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With such advanced weaponry and droid manufacturing, you would think they would have mastered unmanned flight.
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:34:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Toss in HK47 and I'll start caring more |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:35:25 AM EDT
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With such advanced weaponry and droid manufacturing, you would think they would have mastered unmanned flight. With advanced metalworks, you would think they would invent a skin that was self cleaning. That thing looks like it was parked somewhere in detroit. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:40:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: General Products #5 hull? #5 would be ginormous.
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:40:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not the best endorsement for atmospheric flight, if you ask me. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Lukes' X-wing in The Empire Strikes Back flies in atmosphere and crash lands on Dagoba. Not the best endorsement for atmospheric flight, if you ask me. Maybe not, there are hundreds of other examples. The best endorsement for Incom was when the X-Wing lay in a swampy bog underwater for several days, and then fired right up! |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:41:28 AM EDT
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According to the Stars Wars Wiki, this is a T-65 Advanced X-Wing. One of 16 different variants.
The Advanced X-wing's development was owed largely to the success of the Z-95 Headhunter variant, the Heavy-95, as the engineers realized that wider bodies were good improvements to various concerns of starship performance. In large part because of this, the Advanced X-wing was supplied with similar modifications to its hull to the Heavy-95 before finalizing the latter fighter design. The improved heat-handling and increased mass capacity made the Advanced X-wing a better choice for X-wing pilots. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/T-65_Advanced_X-wing_starfighter Thank me later. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:46:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm no expert but I never seen where a Tie fighter needed a chode bot in the back to fix it's self. X wings seem like shit tier to me. Astromech droids are primarily useful for navigation. TIE Fighters don't have hyperdrives, or shields... |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:53:28 AM EDT
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Looks like a Z-95 Except it has the S-Foils that will expand out when in attack configuration. You can see the blasters configured in the same way as the older X-Wing. The Z-95 Headhunter has one blaster at the end of the wings. 
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:55:20 AM EDT
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Ion intakes for ion propulsion. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It looks retarded. Air intakes for spacecraft? Ion intakes for ion propulsion. TIE uses Ion and has no Air Intake. LOL |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:56:10 AM EDT
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What a piece of junk!
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:56:28 AM EDT
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Not the best endorsement for atmospheric flight, if you ask me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lukes' X-wing in The Empire Strikes Back flies in atmosphere and crash lands on Dagoba. Not the best endorsement for atmospheric flight, if you ask me. If only there hadn't been such bad atmo and weather. Maybe even an actual place to land. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:58:19 AM EDT
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I'm no expert but I never seen where a Tie fighter needed a chode bot in the back to fix it's self. X wings seem like shit tier to me. TIE fighter pilots are not expected to make it back 
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Posted: 7/21/2014 9:04:17 AM EDT
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I am getting the distinct impression a good percentage of ARFCom has never seen the Star Wars movies. "Lock S-foils to attack position" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That doesn't appear to be an X Wing at all, but rather a single wing craft. I am getting the distinct impression a good percentage of ARFCom has never seen the Star Wars movies. "Lock S-foils to attack position" Look closely at the wing of the mockup in the video; it's solid and one piece from the engine outboard and not split. After another close look it appears there is a split on the top surface that would allow the wing to open albeit differently from the original |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 9:04:21 AM EDT
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With such advanced weaponry and droid manufacturing, you would think they would have mastered unmanned flight. There were TIE drones in the PC games. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 9:12:52 AM EDT
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Anybody who has read the books know there are more advanced X-wings.
Even Stealth-X's. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 9:26:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: TIE uses Ion and has no Air Intake. LOL Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: It looks retarded. Air intakes for spacecraft? Ion intakes for ion propulsion. TIE uses Ion and has no Air Intake. LOL  |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 9:27:37 AM EDT
[#29]
Nice.
But have you seen the new BT-16? They say it's really something to see. 
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Posted: 7/21/2014 9:31:43 AM EDT
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X-Wing is trans atmospheric. GTFO. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It looks retarded. Air intakes for spacecraft? X-Wing is trans atmospheric. GTFO. Lol |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 9:34:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice. But have you seen the new BT-16? They say it's really something to see. http://bplusmovieblog.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/star-wars-890.png What was that? |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 9:36:24 AM EDT
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I wouldn't. Stupid thing is missing its R2 unit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'd fly it. I wouldn't. Stupid thing is missing its R2 unit. Look closer. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 9:37:58 AM EDT
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Don't be shit talking my A-Wing. not only is it faster the Falcon, out runs Ties while the pilot gives them the finger, but it also brought down a Super Star Destroyer! What's the X-Wing done besides taking out one and half "space stations?" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The movie is 30 years after "Jedi." Shirley (heh) you would expect some sort of advancement and improvement of design in that time period? The advancement in design is to sell more toys or to show audiences something "different." The designs in IV-VI were perfect, IMO. (except for the A-Wing) If this is a new ship, it's not that bad. I just hope they keep the X-Wing the same. At least it's not drastically different, and they've kept the same hull. Don't be shit talking my A-Wing. not only is it faster the Falcon, out runs Ties while the pilot gives them the finger, but it also brought down a Super Star Destroyer! What's the X-Wing done besides taking out one and half "space stations?" Oh come on. The only way the A-wing took out the Executor is that it crashed kamikaze-style directly into the bridge, on accident. If you take the bridge as a percentage of the surface area of that ship, the pilot won the lottery on his way out. 
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Posted: 7/21/2014 9:44:11 AM EDT
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I'm hoping the B - Wing gets some play in the new movies. What a magnificent ship.
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Posted: 7/21/2014 9:46:56 AM EDT
[#35]
Would fly.
Red 11 standing by!
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Posted: 7/21/2014 9:46:57 AM EDT
[#36]
I like it
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Posted: 7/21/2014 9:47:17 AM EDT
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So, how does a turbine spin when it's cut in half? Does it just reattach itself when the S-foils are closed? Whether practical or not, I think it looks plain ugly. The old design was better. IMO http://absolventi.gymcheb.cz/2008/tovins/obrazky/xwing.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That doesn't appear to be an X Wing at all, but rather a single wing craft. I am getting the distinct impression a good percentage of ARFCom has never seen the Star Wars movies. "Lock S-foils to attack position" The X-Wing has 4 fully rounded engines. This looks like a Z-95. Wouldn't make much sense to have a half-round turbine. By doing two half round turbines, you streamline the fighter for less drag when the wings are folded. So, how does a turbine spin when it's cut in half? Does it just reattach itself when the S-foils are closed? Whether practical or not, I think it looks plain ugly. The old design was better. IMO http://absolventi.gymcheb.cz/2008/tovins/obrazky/xwing.jpg You know it's impossible for a turbine to actually work in space, right? 
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Posted: 7/21/2014 9:47:52 AM EDT
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Nice. But have you seen the new BT-16? They say it's really something to see. http://bplusmovieblog.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/star-wars-890.png What was that? *whoosh*
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Posted: 7/21/2014 9:48:31 AM EDT
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He went with the Ralph McQuarrie concept. Cool. I still have the Art of Star Wars on my book shelf. That's good stuff. Great production design, Lucas was fortunate to have picked him. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 9:52:20 AM EDT
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Looks like a Z-95 I forgot about those. Should have remembered that one from the games. Pretty easy to shoot down with a TIE Fighter. If it continues from the Games, as I have not read the books, is it going to have Admiral Thrawn in it? Anyone know? Always thought he was an awesome character. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 9:59:41 AM EDT
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I forgot about those. Should have remembered that one from the games. Pretty easy to shoot down with a TIE Fighter. If it continues from the Games, as I have not read the books, is it going to have Admiral Thrawn in it? Anyone know? Always thought he was an awesome character. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Looks like a Z-95 I forgot about those. Should have remembered that one from the games. Pretty easy to shoot down with a TIE Fighter. If it continues from the Games, as I have not read the books, is it going to have Admiral Thrawn in it? Anyone know? Always thought he was an awesome character. Whole new story. Not sure how to feel about the x wing. Looks a little too sleek. Though I understand 30 years after VI they would have changed the design. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 10:08:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You know it's impossible for a turbine to actually work in space, right? Work as in create thrust, that is. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So, how does a turbine spin when it's cut in half? Does it just reattach itself when the S-foils are closed? Whether practical or not, I think it looks plain ugly. The old design was better. IMO http://absolventi.gymcheb.cz/2008/tovins/obrazky/xwing.jpg You know it's impossible for a turbine to actually work in space, right? Work as in create thrust, that is. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 10:09:08 AM EDT
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Looks like a Z-95 my thoughts exactly yep.....doesn't have the R2 unit. X-wings require R2's to operate their hyperdrives. Z-95 doesn't have a hyperdrive that's why there is not a R2 slot. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 10:12:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I forgot about those. Should have remembered that one from the games. Pretty easy to shoot down with a TIE Fighter. If it continues from the Games, as I have not read the books, is it going to have Admiral Thrawn in it? Anyone know? Always thought he was an awesome character. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Looks like a Z-95 I forgot about those. Should have remembered that one from the games. Pretty easy to shoot down with a TIE Fighter. If it continues from the Games, as I have not read the books, is it going to have Admiral Thrawn in it? Anyone know? Always thought he was an awesome character. No. The vast majority of the expanded universe (novels, comics, video games etc) has been thrown out and rightly so imo.
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Posted: 7/21/2014 10:17:29 AM EDT
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All of their fighters............the A-Wing is also trans atmospheric.............and according to Wookiepedia:
"In addition, they also had a high rate of mechanical failure, and contributed to the fighter's extremely costly maintenance-to-flight ratio. This among other reasons was why it was difficult to keep a squadron of A-wings operational for any length of time"..........must be their version of the F-35 Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted:
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Ok, then that accounts for all of their fighters.............. Ahem. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HYHw8I8JaOk/UU1JcBCdAxI/AAAAAAAACgI/CrZYKr8pFCY/s1600/A-Wing.jpg |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 10:18:15 AM EDT
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No. The vast majority of the expanded universe (novels, comics, video games etc) has been thrown out and rightly so imo. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Looks like a Z-95 I forgot about those. Should have remembered that one from the games. Pretty easy to shoot down with a TIE Fighter. If it continues from the Games, as I have not read the books, is it going to have Admiral Thrawn in it? Anyone know? Always thought he was an awesome character. No. The vast majority of the expanded universe (novels, comics, video games etc) has been thrown out and rightly so imo. As long as it doesn't suck, I'm okay with that. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 10:27:08 AM EDT
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Force for Change sounds like some Obama bullshit. Movie better not suck. That's my impression as well, the name of this movie is a giant red flag covered in flashing red neon lights.    
I'm expecting 2, and a half hours of kumbaiah, and gay hand holding while skipping down to the space welfare office to get some "free" money. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 10:28:00 AM EDT
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Red Dawn, Standing By.
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Posted: 7/21/2014 10:29:13 AM EDT
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That's my impression as well, the name of this movie is a giant red flag covered in flashing red neon lights.
I'm expecting 2, and a half hours of kumbaiah, and gay hand holding while skipping down to the space welfare office to get some "free" money. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Force for Change sounds like some Obama bullshit. Movie better not suck. That's my impression as well, the name of this movie is a giant red flag covered in flashing red neon lights.
I'm expecting 2, and a half hours of kumbaiah, and gay hand holding while skipping down to the space welfare office to get some "free" money. Is it the name of the movie or just the stupid UNICEF campaign? |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 10:36:48 AM EDT
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Red Fern standing by....
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