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Link Posted: 4/21/2015 6:03:52 AM EDT
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Quite obviously you have no fear in inquiring Allah's vengeful wrath delivered by the mighty Iranian suicide speedboat swarms...

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Link Posted: 4/21/2015 6:19:45 AM EDT
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USS Obama Trash scow
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I bet it chaps the halfrican's ass that we have a ship named after Churchill


It will chap my ass when one gets named after the halfrican.  Hopefully I've passed from the scene by then.


USS Obama Trash scow

USS Obama Honey barge.
Link Posted: 4/21/2015 6:21:04 AM EDT
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So basically you want a Gearing class destroyer?

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they all look so naked except maybe the carrier, granted i don't really know shit about any of these boats but i love the giant guns on a battle ship.

they should strap some intimidating looking weapons on the outside of some of these just for the yeah come and fuck with it factor could also serve as a good decoy type target



So basically you want a Gearing class destroyer?

http://webzoom.freewebs.com/lobo865/scan0002.jpg

Fletcher class was cooler looking.
Link Posted: 4/21/2015 6:23:58 AM EDT
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That CSG commander is an avid cyclist/triathlete and is known to ride his bike...on the road
Link Posted: 4/21/2015 7:12:04 AM EDT
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lol Iran...go back to wearing large gold chains and wearing too much colon.
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They're Persian, not Arab.  And even those sick fucks don't wear it in public. Oh wait, you meant cologne.  

Nevermind, carry on.
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Where the fuck did the boat the CIWS fired on go???
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Where the fuck did the boat the CIWS fired on go???
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Where the fuck did the boat the CIWS fired on go???


When those Iranian speed boats start taking fire, they automatically engage a cloaking device.  
Link Posted: 4/21/2015 7:39:47 AM EDT
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Wow.  What a lovely little cluster fuck Yemen appears to be.

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Please tell me we have more than a cruiser and two destroyers escorting all of that.

Why would you need more?

Interesting graphic:
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Wow.  What a lovely little cluster fuck Yemen appears to be.


Most of those ships would be there anyway because Somalia is a clusterfuck that brings with it piracy.
Link Posted: 4/21/2015 7:41:28 AM EDT
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Destroyer Weapons and Combat System are optimized for ASW, Cruisers for AAW
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Have to ask:

While I realize that perspective can be difficult to rationalize in pictures, the cruiser and the destroyer look to be about the same size.

What is the difference?

Destroyer
Length:505 ft (154 m)
Beam:66 ft (20 m)
Draft:30.5 ft (9.3 m)

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Length:567 feet (173 m)
Beam:55 feet (16.8 meters)
Draft:34 feet (10.2 meters)

Both nearly identical in displacement/tonnage


Destroyer Weapons and Combat System are optimized for ASW, Cruisers for AAW

There is little to no difference between the combat systems on a DDG-51 and a CG-47. The only difference is what Mod the combat system is. The Marks are the same.
Link Posted: 4/21/2015 8:01:53 AM EDT
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I was stationed on Iwo for 4yrs, I know that ship like the back of my hand.  Good to see our ships doin' work.
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I have been on the Iwo Jima before

I was stationed on Iwo for 4yrs, I know that ship like the back of my hand.  Good to see our ships doin' work.


I was promoted to GySgt on the flight deck.
Link Posted: 4/21/2015 8:02:37 AM EDT
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Those Destroyers aren't Spruance class.  They're pretty spiffy at AW.
Link Posted: 4/21/2015 8:09:43 AM EDT
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I'm sure we have a few boomers lurking underwater as well.
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I happen to know somebody that was an a Belknap class "cruiser" that got orders to go in to the Persian Gulf in a time of rising tensions, with one 5" gun, terrier missiles and small arms.  No 3" guns, no 50s and no 20's.  Needless to say there were some scenarios we were a little concerned about, because we were slated to operate as PIRAZ away from the Carrier Group.
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Sounds like when they took the guns off fighters like the Phantom II because they thought missiles could take care of any situation.
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they all look so naked except maybe the carrier, granted i don't really know shit about any of these boats but i love the giant guns on a battle ship.

they should strap some intimidating looking weapons on the outside of some of these just for the yeah come and fuck with it factor could also serve as a good decoy type target



So basically you want a Gearing class destroyer?

http://webzoom.freewebs.com/lobo865/scan0002.jpg

Fletcher class was cooler looking.


Oh yeah.
Link Posted: 4/21/2015 8:25:30 AM EDT
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I was promoted to GySgt on the flight deck.
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I have been on the Iwo Jima before

I was stationed on Iwo for 4yrs, I know that ship like the back of my hand.  Good to see our ships doin' work.


I was promoted to GySgt on the flight deck.


Rad.
Link Posted: 4/21/2015 8:27:22 AM EDT
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I remember flying on the Kilos when they were being transferred to Iran from the former Soviet Union. They still have them.
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Sounds like when they took the guns off fighters like the Phantom II because they thought missiles could take care of any situation.
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I happen to know somebody that was an a Belknap class "cruiser" that got orders to go in to the Persian Gulf in a time of rising tensions, with one 5" gun, terrier missiles and small arms.  No 3" guns, no 50s and no 20's.  Needless to say there were some scenarios we were a little concerned about, because we were slated to operate as PIRAZ away from the Carrier Group.



Sounds like when they took the guns off fighters like the Phantom II because they thought missiles could take care of any situation.


Or how Navy Phantoms that never had a gun had better kill ratios than USAF Phantoms with a gun...





Link Posted: 4/21/2015 8:34:35 AM EDT
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For those complaining about the combat capability of three DDGs and one CG, those four ships are carrying a total of 410 Mk41 VLS cells. That's a lot of missiles. And you can carry 4 Sea Sparrows to a cell.

The CG will also have 8 Harpoons.
Link Posted: 4/21/2015 8:35:39 AM EDT
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True story!

Exactly
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Or how Navy Phantoms that never had a gun had better kill ratios than USAF Phantoms with a gun...


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I happen to know somebody that was an a Belknap class "cruiser" that got orders to go in to the Persian Gulf in a time of rising tensions, with one 5" gun, terrier missiles and small arms.  No 3" guns, no 50s and no 20's.  Needless to say there were some scenarios we were a little concerned about, because we were slated to operate as PIRAZ away from the Carrier Group.



Sounds like when they took the guns off fighters like the Phantom II because they thought missiles could take care of any situation.


Or how Navy Phantoms that never had a gun had better kill ratios than USAF Phantoms with a gun...


http://i59.tinypic.com/8vtgnd.png

http://i62.tinypic.com/6h51rd.png


Little thing called "Top Gun" school.

So, you agree that fighters no longer need a gun?
Link Posted: 4/21/2015 8:36:59 AM EDT
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They're nice but they seem a bit under armed to me. Only one main gun?
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For those complaining about the combat capability of three DDGs and one CG, those four ships are carrying a total of 410 Mk41 VLS cells. That's a lot of missiles. And you can carry 4 Sea Sparrows to a cell.

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And against a swarm of those boats, they would use what?
Link Posted: 4/21/2015 8:39:05 AM EDT
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I don't usually call people out over bad spelling unless the intent is dramatically changed.  I'll just leave it at that.
Link Posted: 4/21/2015 8:39:25 AM EDT
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This thread is beginning to smell like old seamen.

TRG
Link Posted: 4/21/2015 8:41:29 AM EDT
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Actually it's called TOPGUN, Larry...

Which is funny because the fighters that the Navy was flying there didn't have guns...

Top Gun is a Tom Cruise 80s flick that had nothing to do with the USN's superior kill ratio in Vietnam.
Link Posted: 4/21/2015 8:57:52 AM EDT
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No, our carriers are SO big, they have their own "gate guard" aircraft.

TC
Link Posted: 4/21/2015 8:59:36 AM EDT
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This seems to me like using a very expensive shotgun to kill flies.

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How many times has it been posted on this site that all the rest of the world understands is overwhelming force?

Well, here's your overwhelming force, bitch!

TC
Link Posted: 4/21/2015 9:18:44 AM EDT
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Actually it's called TOPGUN, Larry...

Which is funny because the fighters that the Navy was flying there didn't have guns...

Top Gun is a Tom Cruise 80s flick that had nothing to do with the USN's superior kill ratio in Vietnam.
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I bash the early F-4's for not having a gun as much as anyone but H46 nailed it.  More specifically, it's the Navy taking what was intended to be a fleet defense interceptor and putting into an environment where (due to the oppressive DC-driven ROE's) it had to engage in close in, visual ACM.

It was never designed or envisioned for that role.  It just so happens (thanks McD engineers!) that it was very capable once they figured out how to fly it.  Moreover, the crews were trained to be interceptor pilots, not ACM specialists.

TOPGUN fixed that.

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P.S.--However, NAVAIR did demand the F-14 come with a gun...jus'sayin'.
Link Posted: 4/21/2015 10:12:40 AM EDT
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Little thing called "Top Gun" school.

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Sounds like when they took the guns off fighters like the Phantom II because they thought missiles could take care of any situation.


Or how Navy Phantoms that never had a gun had better kill ratios than USAF Phantoms with a gun...


http://i59.tinypic.com/8vtgnd.png

http://i62.tinypic.com/6h51rd.png


Little thing called "Top Gun" school.

So, you agree that fighters no longer need a gun?

The Navy never added an internal gun to the F-4. The F-35C doesn't have an internal gun.
Link Posted: 4/21/2015 10:14:00 AM EDT
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And against a swarm of those boats, they would use what?
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For those complaining about the combat capability of three DDGs and one CG, those four ships are carrying a total of 410 Mk41 VLS cells. That's a lot of missiles. And you can carry 4 Sea Sparrows to a cell.

The CG will also have 8 Harpoons.


And against a swarm of those boats, they would use what?

A myriad of weapons from 5" guns, to 25mm, to 20mm, to .50 cal.


I'd love some vertically launched Longbow Hellfires on all the ships. If you agree, write your Congressman.
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Damn horse doesn't want to drink...
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This.

Impressive force to be sure, but if they are not cleared to take the action needed to stop the Iranians, then all the bad guys need to do is to simply keep sailing on...
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This....
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They actually painted their planes to look like American squadrons?

VF-84.... Really?
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I've got sea sickness.  





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I've got sea sickness.  








You and I, both.

5 years at sea did nothing to fix that.
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They actually painted their planes to look like American squadrons?

VF-84.... Really?
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They actually painted their planes to look like American squadrons?

VF-84.... Really?

We paint our aggressor squadrons in color schemes that are eerily similar to the color schemes of Russia and their allies.

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We paint our aggressor squadrons in color schemes that are eerily similar to the color schemes of Russia and their allies.

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They actually painted their planes to look like American squadrons?

VF-84.... Really?

We paint our aggressor squadrons in color schemes that are eerily similar to the color schemes of Russia and their allies.



Yeah, but we don't park them on our carriers in dry dock!
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Yeah, but we don't park them on our carriers in dry dock!
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They actually painted their planes to look like American squadrons?

VF-84.... Really?

We paint our aggressor squadrons in color schemes that are eerily similar to the color schemes of Russia and their allies.



Yeah, but we don't park them on our carriers in dry dock!

They made a target that approximates their threat. We do the same. What's the big deal? It's a grown up world out there.
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A myriad of weapons from 5" guns, to 25mm, to 20mm, to .50 cal.


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For those complaining about the combat capability of three DDGs and one CG, those four ships are carrying a total of 410 Mk41 VLS cells. That's a lot of missiles. And you can carry 4 Sea Sparrows to a cell.

The CG will also have 8 Harpoons.


And against a swarm of those boats, they would use what?

A myriad of weapons from 5" guns, to 25mm, to 20mm, to .50 cal.


I'd love some vertically launched Longbow Hellfires on all the ships. If you agree, write your Congressman.

If you're implying Apache helos on the deck of the ships, not a bad idea. During Operation Earnest Will, the Army operated Kiowas and Little Bird attack helos off various ships, including frigates.
They were very successful.
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They made a target that approximates their threat. We do the same. What's the big deal? It's a grown up world out there.
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They actually painted their planes to look like American squadrons?

VF-84.... Really?

We paint our aggressor squadrons in color schemes that are eerily similar to the color schemes of Russia and their allies.



Yeah, but we don't park them on our carriers in dry dock!

They made a target that approximates their threat. We do the same. What's the big deal? It's a grown up world out there.



I'll admit I'd forgotten about aggressor squadrons, and that would make sense.

But you gotta admit it looks funny in dry dock...
Link Posted: 4/21/2015 10:39:53 AM EDT
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It looks like we are going to also get involved in the air campaign in Yemen...
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Nope. I meant exactly what I said.

http://news.usni.org/2015/03/05/peo-lcs-begins-at-sea-testing-of-modified-longbow-hellfire-missile
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Those mine sweepers look like fishing boats



Probably way too old, but where do I sign up
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It does.

I'm just a little tired of some on this site, not you, that seemingly go into fits when America's enemies practices killing American servicemen and women. Of course they do. We practice killing them to. It's the price of admission.
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That about sums it up.



The Saudis should lead any attacks



 
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Uh....

When did this...



Become this:




Did I miss a memo somewhere?
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Yes.  2 classes of LCS.  LCS-1, which is the conventional looking corvette and LCS-2 which is the trimaran.

Odd numbers are LCS-1 class.  Even numbers LCS-2 class.
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It will chap my ass when one gets named after the halfrican.  Hopefully I've passed from the scene by then.
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It will chap my ass when one gets named after the halfrican.  Hopefully I've passed from the scene by then.



Bet it happens in the next 5 years.  Will be a sad day for the Navy, and the Nation when it happens.

Then again, that idiot Carter just had a sub named after him.

USS Jimmy Carter (SSN-23)
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Yes.  2 classes of LCS.  LCS-1, which is the conventional looking corvette and LCS-2 which is the trimaran.

Odd numbers are LCS-1 class.  Even numbers LCS-2 class.
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Yes.  2 classes of LCS.  LCS-1, which is the conventional looking corvette and LCS-2 which is the trimaran.

Odd numbers are LCS-1 class.  Even numbers LCS-2 class.



Oh, good grief.seriously?

Any particular reason for this bizarre arrangement?

Thanks for letting me know, though. That conventional hull version was completely new to me...
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Oh, good grief.seriously?

Any particular reason for this bizarre arrangement?

Thanks for letting me know, though. That conventional hull version was completely new to me...
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Yes.  2 classes of LCS.  LCS-1, which is the conventional looking corvette and LCS-2 which is the trimaran.

Odd numbers are LCS-1 class.  Even numbers LCS-2 class.



Oh, good grief.seriously?

Any particular reason for this bizarre arrangement?

Thanks for letting me know, though. That conventional hull version was completely new to me...

When Congress went apeshit over the KC-X competition the Navy followed by "getting both."
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