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Posted: 4/20/2015 9:42:06 PM EDT
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Are those F-14's and Intruders in the first pic?????
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Posted: 4/20/2015 9:42:10 PM EDT
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Need a picture of the man in charge, on his bike. http://www.thedailyrash.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/president-barack-obama-rides-along-bike-path-correllus-state-forest-martha-vineyard-west-tisbury-massachusetts.jpg I knew it our fearless leader rides a girls bike |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 9:50:06 PM EDT
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I bet it chaps the halfrican's ass that we have a ship named after Churchill It will chap my ass when one gets named after the halfrican. Hopefully I've passed from the scene by then. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 9:55:34 PM EDT
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Ive got wood.  Wood's been hit, 'Wood's been hit! |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 9:58:35 PM EDT
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Are those F-14's and Intruders in the first pic????? Well, there are still F14's operating in the AO. 
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Posted: 4/20/2015 10:00:46 PM EDT
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Well, there are still F14's operating in the AO. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are those F-14's and Intruders in the first pic????? Well, there are still F14's operating in the AO. <snort> |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 10:03:31 PM EDT
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Three. Anymore is overkill. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Roughly how many Marines would be aboard those amphibs? How many attack helicopters? Three. Anymore is overkill. I thought it had to be an even number so they can all find love? 
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Posted: 4/20/2015 10:20:10 PM EDT
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Unless I missed it, most of the ships were not flying the US flag. Is that because the photos were taken before the ships were accepted by the Navy or what? Don't US military ships normally fly the US flag? I never thought about it before. You must not have gotten your secret decoder ring. Be sure to drink your Naval Ovaltine. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 10:20:43 PM EDT
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Unless an admiral or two go rouge, then nothing will happen and the Iranians will carry on as they were.  Why would a couple of admirals go red? 
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Posted: 4/20/2015 10:21:09 PM EDT
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Ive got wood. I've got sea sickness. 
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Posted: 4/20/2015 10:41:35 PM EDT
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Well, there are still F14's operating in the AO. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are those F-14's and Intruders in the first pic????? Well, there are still F14's operating in the AO. If you are alluding to the Iranian F14s, when was the last time one of those even took to the air? |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 11:01:18 PM EDT
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If you are alluding to the Iranian F14s, when was the last time one of those even took to the air? I think it's been more than a couple years since anyone reported spotting any of them in the air. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 11:05:25 PM EDT
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If you are alluding to the Iranian F14s, when was the last time one of those even took to the air? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are those F-14's and Intruders in the first pic????? Well, there are still F14's operating in the AO. If you are alluding to the Iranian F14s, when was the last time one of those even took to the air? Curious though, is that what is on deck in that pic? |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 11:15:40 PM EDT
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Curious though, is that what is on deck in that pic? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are those F-14's and Intruders in the first pic????? Well, there are still F14's operating in the AO. If you are alluding to the Iranian F14s, when was the last time one of those even took to the air? Curious though, is that what is on deck in that pic? Yes, and S-3 Vikings, which are retired. Its an old stock photo. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 11:15:52 PM EDT
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Curious though, is that what is on deck in that pic? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are those F-14's and Intruders in the first pic????? Well, there are still F14's operating in the AO. If you are alluding to the Iranian F14s, when was the last time one of those even took to the air? Curious though, is that what is on deck in that pic? There are 2 or 3 Tomcats and some Intruders, one of which seems to be an EA6B Growler. Like Frank said, an old photo. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 11:17:56 PM EDT
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I think it's been more than a couple years since anyone reported spotting any of them in the air. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you are alluding to the Iranian F14s, when was the last time one of those even took to the air? I think it's been more than a couple years since anyone reported spotting any of them in the air. I heard that the Grumman techs pretty much rendered them useless as they were leaving. That may or may not be true, not sure. Of course, there are a lot of stories about those things. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 11:19:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where are the clittoral combat ships at? |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 11:19:42 PM EDT
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Why would you need more? Interesting graphic: http://i2.wp.com/news.usni.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/yemen_cig_pgn_cimsec-17apr15.png Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Please tell me we have more than a cruiser and two destroyers escorting all of that. Why would you need more? Interesting graphic: http://i2.wp.com/news.usni.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/yemen_cig_pgn_cimsec-17apr15.png Wow. What a lovely little cluster fuck Yemen appears to be. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 11:29:20 PM EDT
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So what is the defense against a swarm of those fast attack boats? Missiles? Hard to think that an aircraft with anti ship missiles could take on enough of them. Cannon on a helicopter gunship maybe.
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Posted: 4/20/2015 11:35:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Curious though, is that what is on deck in that pic? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Are those F-14's and Intruders in the first pic????? Well, there are still F14's operating in the AO. If you are alluding to the Iranian F14s, when was the last time one of those even took to the air? Curious though, is that what is on deck in that pic? Yeah, it looks like VFA-31 tomcatters and they flew their last missions off the TR in 2005 or 2006. Don't believe there are any Hoovers on carriers anymore as well. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 11:35:55 PM EDT
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Unless I missed it, most of the ships were not flying the US flag. Is that because the photos were taken before the ships were accepted by the Navy or what? Don't US military ships normally fly the US flag? I never thought about it before. I see them in most of the pictures. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 11:40:51 PM EDT
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So what is the defense against a swarm of those fast attack boats? Missiles? Hard to think that an aircraft with anti ship missiles could take on enough of them. Cannon on a helicopter gunship maybe. http://www.navy.mil/navydata/fact_display.asp?cid=2100&tid=500&ct=2 |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 11:44:19 PM EDT
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So what is the defense against a swarm of those fast attack boats? Missiles? Hard to think that an aircraft with anti ship missiles could take on enough of them. Cannon on a helicopter gunship maybe. Quote HistoryQuoted:
So what is the defense against a swarm of those fast attack boats? Missiles? Hard to think that an aircraft with anti ship missiles could take on enough of them. Cannon on a helicopter gunship maybe. Navy's New 'Cannon' Launches Swarms of Tiny Drones The U.S. Navy's latest technology may revolutionize how war is fought.
The Low-Cost UAV Swarming Technology program (LOCUST) fires small, disposable drones out of a rocket launcher-type mechanism. Once airborne, the autonomous drones begin communicating with one another and flying in formation. Kurt "The Cyber Guy" Knutsson explained on "Fox and Friends Weekend" that up to 30 drones can be launched from the device in under one minute, swarming the enemy. http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/04/19/us-navys-new-drone-cannon-launches-swarms-tiny-aircraft
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Posted: 4/20/2015 11:54:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: sigh. I miss the days when US warships had real guns on them. Some of them can even launch ballistic missile defense missiles. So they don't have much in the way of guns, but they can launch missiles into space, Tomahawks after various targets, anti-aircraft, anti-sub weapons too. A WWII destroyer was basically the Star Wars Imperial trooper bravely blasting away, but also missing alot while making Pew Pew sounds. An Arleigh Burke is busy hitting things and destroying them. The Ticonderogas carry pretty much the same weapons but they carry 122 of them instead of 90 to 96. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:23:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did you look at the graphic? And what is the threat? Why would you need more? Also, during the height of the Cold War, do you know how many escorts an Amphibious Ready Group had? Zero. It was only about 15 years ago that the idea of an Expeditionary Strike Group, putting one or two DDGs with an ARG, was put into practice. And about 10 years ago, the practice was largely abandoned. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:56:16 AM EDT
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Needs more Iowa class battleship
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Posted: 4/21/2015 12:58:44 AM EDT
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Thats a whole lotta' whoop-ass. I bet that gained some attention around the region.
OHAI! WE'RE HERE TO FUCK SHIT UP.... AGAIN. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 1:00:59 AM EDT
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I think it's been more than a couple years since anyone reported spotting any of them in the air. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you are alluding to the Iranian F14s, when was the last time one of those even took to the air? I think it's been more than a couple years since anyone reported spotting any of them in the air. I thought I read a story about 3 years ago about someone in the .gov getting in trouble for shipping Iran some F-14 parts, thinking that they were just some old parts that didnt matter, but were against ITAR or something. I think that the Iranians are still trying to keep those birds in the air. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 1:02:09 AM EDT
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You guys have this all WRONG!!
Obama is donating all those ships to Iran for a promise that they will not make their own nuclear weapons. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 1:35:23 AM EDT
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I thought I read a story about 3 years ago about someone in the .gov getting in trouble for shipping Iran some F-14 parts, thinking that they were just some old parts that didnt matter, but were against ITAR or something. I think that the Iranians are still trying to keep those birds in the air. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you are alluding to the Iranian F14s, when was the last time one of those even took to the air? I think it's been more than a couple years since anyone reported spotting any of them in the air. I thought I read a story about 3 years ago about someone in the .gov getting in trouble for shipping Iran some F-14 parts, thinking that they were just some old parts that didnt matter, but were against ITAR or something. I think that the Iranians are still trying to keep those birds in the air. I think the Gov went and collected all the F14 static displays throughout the country at VFW posts to prevent exactly that. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 1:42:04 AM EDT
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Cool I have been on the Iwo Jima before Me too. I had a couple of friends that were on it while I was in. ETA: Whoops, should have read further. It was the old Iwo I visited. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 1:42:18 AM EDT
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That's some significant amphibious assault and support assets.
Are we going to assault something? Put some feet on the ground? |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 1:46:16 AM EDT
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It will chap my ass when one gets named after the halfrican. Hopefully I've passed from the scene by then. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I bet it chaps the halfrican's ass that we have a ship named after Churchill It will chap my ass when one gets named after the halfrican. Hopefully I've passed from the scene by then. USS Obama Trash scow |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 1:55:11 AM EDT
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That's some significant amphibious assault and support assets. Are we going to assault something? Put some feet on the ground? Why not be ready for anything? |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 1:58:43 AM EDT
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they all look so naked except maybe the carrier, granted i don't really know shit about any of these boats but i love the giant guns on a battle ship.
they should strap some intimidating looking weapons on the outside of some of these just for the yeah come and fuck with it factor could also serve as a good decoy type target |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 2:04:09 AM EDT
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they all look so naked except maybe the carrier, granted i don't really know shit about any of these boats but i love the giant guns on a battle ship. they should strap some intimidating looking weapons on the outside of some of these just for the yeah come and fuck with it factor could also serve as a good decoy type target So basically you want a Gearing class destroyer? 
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Posted: 4/21/2015 2:14:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Navy's New 'Cannon' Launches Swarms of Tiny Drones http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/04/19/us-navys-new-drone-cannon-launches-swarms-tiny-aircraft Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So what is the defense against a swarm of those fast attack boats? Missiles? Hard to think that an aircraft with anti ship missiles could take on enough of them. Cannon on a helicopter gunship maybe. Navy's New 'Cannon' Launches Swarms of Tiny Drones The U.S. Navy's latest technology may revolutionize how war is fought. The Low-Cost UAV Swarming Technology program (LOCUST) fires small, disposable drones out of a rocket launcher-type mechanism. Once airborne, the autonomous drones begin communicating with one another and flying in formation. Kurt "The Cyber Guy" Knutsson explained on "Fox and Friends Weekend" that up to 30 drones can be launched from the device in under one minute, swarming the enemy. http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/04/19/us-navys-new-drone-cannon-launches-swarms-tiny-aircraft I don't think the those drones are weaponized but the idea of a cluster of self-guided suicide drones is scary as fuck. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 4:43:08 AM EDT
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Unless I missed it, most of the ships were not flying the US flag. Is that because the photos were taken before the ships were accepted by the Navy or what? Don't US military ships normally fly the US flag? I never thought about it before. You need to know where to look, they're there. Generally flown at the masthead underway. Underway colors are usually relatively small because they get beat to death by the winds, stack gases, etc. Much bigger ones are available for when situations make them appropriate. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 4:48:53 AM EDT
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Those mine sweepers do not look like they would be fun to be aboard during a storm at sea. and those are the big ones I believe they were carried over on flo-flo ships, Float-On Float-Off |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 4:51:30 AM EDT
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Destroyer Length:505 ft (154 m) Beam:66 ft (20 m) Draft:30.5 ft (9.3 m) Cruiser Length:567 feet (173 m) Beam:55 feet (16.8 meters) Draft:34 feet (10.2 meters) Both nearly identical in displacement/tonnage Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Have to ask: While I realize that perspective can be difficult to rationalize in pictures, the cruiser and the destroyer look to be about the same size. What is the difference? Destroyer Length:505 ft (154 m) Beam:66 ft (20 m) Draft:30.5 ft (9.3 m) Cruiser Length:567 feet (173 m) Beam:55 feet (16.8 meters) Draft:34 feet (10.2 meters) Both nearly identical in displacement/tonnage Destroyer Weapons and Combat System are optimized for ASW, Cruisers for AAW |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 4:54:25 AM EDT
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Given the Virginia class has better littoral capabilities I would hope they are Virginias. A kilo in that neck of the woods would be a legit concern. Shallow and noisie. There are spots in the Gulf where an ssn is longer than the water is deep. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm wondering what type of/how many subs would accompany a task force of that size? Based off similar deployments, my guess is one, two at most. Unless they plan on getting dicey, that is. Regarding types, your guess is as good as any, but odds are it's a Virginia. well that's why we usually run them long ways horizontal. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 4:55:21 AM EDT
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Cool I have been on the Iwo Jima before When? I used to drive it. 
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Posted: 4/21/2015 4:55:38 AM EDT
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Please tell me we have more than a cruiser and two destroyers escorting all of that. Nope budget cuts |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 5:00:43 AM EDT
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The infograph mentions the Sterrett, which has left with the previous CSG, but I did confirm that the USS Farragut, a destroyer, is also part of the Roosevelt's CSG. Also added it to the OP. So that's one more DDG than originally posted. http://news.usni.org/2015/04/17/uss-carl-vinson-carrier-chops-out-of-5th-fleet-roosevelt-picks-up-isis-strike-missions Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Please tell me we have more than a cruiser and two destroyers escorting all of that. Why would you need more? Interesting graphic: http://i2.wp.com/news.usni.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/yemen_cig_pgn_cimsec-17apr15.png We don't escort carriers with the quantities we used to. Too many ships, not enough missions. I really think the LPD's need those VLS tubes and ESSM's they were designed for for that reason. They don't always have a DDG around. ETA: That infographic shows 2 more DDG's than was shown above. The infograph mentions the Sterrett, which has left with the previous CSG, but I did confirm that the USS Farragut, a destroyer, is also part of the Roosevelt's CSG. Also added it to the OP. So that's one more DDG than originally posted. http://news.usni.org/2015/04/17/uss-carl-vinson-carrier-chops-out-of-5th-fleet-roosevelt-picks-up-isis-strike-missions If I was to bet, I'd bet there are already more ships over there not currently associated with a CSG. Anti-piracy patrols, other patrols and groups. Plus, Brits and French., maybe other NATO, maybe Aussies and Kiwis. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 5:06:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Those mine sweepers do not look like they would be fun to be aboard during a storm at sea. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 5:09:47 AM EDT
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So what is the defense against a swarm of those fast attack boats? Missiles? Hard to think that an aircraft with anti ship missiles could take on enough of them. Cannon on a helicopter gunship maybe. well if you mean those little 20 footers or so, not much if you are really talking several hundred of them all at the same time. Think a swarm of bees. But otoh getting all of them to Yemen is going to be rough on them and take a lot of time. So swatting the few that make it would not be hard for an air wing. If you were in the Gulf and a thousand potential martyr carries came boiling out at you, yeah, that would be pretty messy. I happen to know somebody that was an a Belknap class "cruiser" that got orders to go in to the Persian Gulf in a time of rising tensions, with one 5" gun, terrier missiles and small arms. No 3" guns, no 50s and no 20's. Needless to say there were some scenarios we were a little concerned about, because we were slated to operate as PIRAZ away from the Carrier Group. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 5:10:37 AM EDT
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Wow. What a lovely little cluster fuck Yemen appears to be. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Please tell me we have more than a cruiser and two destroyers escorting all of that. Why would you need more? Interesting graphic: http://i2.wp.com/news.usni.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/yemen_cig_pgn_cimsec-17apr15.png Wow. What a lovely little cluster fuck Yemen appears to be. It's a gorram free-for-all! 
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Posted: 4/21/2015 5:38:38 AM EDT
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I just want to see some Iranian shit get blown the fuck up.
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Posted: 4/21/2015 5:45:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Seeing that kind of power is just a little relief for the cash I had to hand over last week. Maybe a tenth of what you and I handed over last week went to pay for those fine men and women on those ships. The rest went to pay for the FSA. |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 5:51:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quite obviously you have no fear in inquiring Allah's vengeful wrath delivered by the mighty Iranian suicide speedboat swarms...  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ofmkikhAnA  |
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