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Posted: 12/20/2010 8:59:25 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By PSYWAR1-0: The Recce platform was something that sprung up within the NSW and 5th SFG communities that first became the Special Purpose Receiver built by Crane, which was supposed to be installed on any M4 lower. After a time when the perfect storm of the users wanting a match-grade trigger and the bolt-bounce issue was identified, the Special Purpose Receiver morphed into a complete rifle that was type-classified as the Mk12. Mk12: A BRIEF HISTORY (as authored by "LGT" & "FL") Mk12 Special Purpose Rifle (SPR) Scoped versions of the M16 rifle existed as far back as the 1960s. Like nearly all historic military rifles, the M16 went through decades of efforts to improve its accuracy, both in the military and civilian marksmanship communities. The need for the SPR dates back to the late 1980s and early 1990s when the 7.62mm M21 sniper rifle, a semi-automatic weapon of Vietnam vintage, was replaced by the M24 sniper rifle, a bolt action weapon. The M24 was originally specified to be a .300 Winchester Magnum, but the Army decided to field it in 7.62 NATO for a variety of economic reasons. This left the M24 in the unenviable position of being the worst of both worlds in the eyes of snipers at the time, since it lost the fast-shooing, semiautomatic capability of the M21, but did not gain the range advantage of the .300WM. This compromise left a vacant requirement for a fast-shooting semi-automatic sniper rifle. This need was most apparent in the US Army Special Forces (SF) community, since the other commands within the Special Operations Forces structure filled that need with Knights Armament Corporation's SR-25 sniper rifle. Army SF, being prohibited by its leadership from procuring the SR-25, sought the next best alternative, namely a Special Purpose Receiver (SPR) kit to convert the Army SF M4 carbines into highly accurate rifles. In late 1998, at the request of SFC Steve Holland of 5th Special Forces Group, and the approval of the SOPMOD joint IPT, the Special Operations Peculiar Modifications (SOPMOD) Program Manager, Troy Smith, authorized the purchase of 5 sets of commercial items as an SPR experiment. The original requirement was for USASOC, mainly the SF Groups, as WARCOM had the MK11, 7.62mm system. Once the SPR requirement was developed and demonstrated through experimentation, most of the other commands in USSOCOM added themselves to the Basis of Issue Plan (BOIP). The USSOCOM requirement for the SPR, with improved ammunition, was approved in July 1999, as part of the SOPMOD Kit, Operational Requirements Document, Version 5 (ORD 5). Further initial development included several variants of the SPR and new ammunition that were compatible with the M4 carbine's lower receiver. It was found that standard issue M855 5.56mm ammunition was not consistent enough to meet the requirement. In 2000, based on an upgrade requirement to provide a match-grade trigger to the design, Mr. Paul Miller, the SPR project manager, discovered an opportunity to pick through over 15,000 M16A1s that had been sent to Crane for destruction. Realizing that these M16A1 rifles, some of which were virtually new, could be used as "free lumber" to build full SPR weapons, Paul selected several thousand rifles to be set aside for the new SPR project. The SPR underwent a minor but significant name change, with the R having originally stood for "Receiver" now standing for "Rifle" The new weapon system was worthless without a matching round of ammunition to obtain the performance required. The PEO-SP USSOCOM authorized the new round that became Mk262 as part of the Mk12 system in August 2000. Paul Miller and his SPR team refined the 77-grain prototype ammunition and built approximately 124 SPR Rifles in the summer of 2001. These were finished just in time to ship out to Army SF in late October 2001, to be used in the first invasion of Afghanistan. The SPR rifles were extremely well-received, and the SOF combat units ordered hundreds more. In May 2002, USSOCOM removed the Mk12 and other complete weapons projects from the SOPMOD Program and placed them under the newly-formed USSOCOM Weapons Program. The fielded weapons included two versions (Mk12 Special Purpose Rifle Mod0 and Mod1). Fielding has since been structured for Mk12 Mod1 Special Purpose Rifle only. This rifle is used by Joint USSOCOM Commands and the USMC in combination with M262 (AA53, 77 grain) ammunition. Formal fielding of the full-rate production version of the Mk12 rifle and ammunition occurred in May 2003 and was completed in FY '04. In 2012, as the decade of war on terrorism was winding down and the SCAR weapon system began replacing the requirement for the Mk12, USSOCOM and Naval Special Warfare divested themselves of the Mk12 weapons system, and the Mk12 is now being looked at to fill a Designated Marksman Role within Brown Water Navy commands. View Quote * * * * * * * * * * The following parts lists and substitution parts was compiled by lancecriminal86 over the course of a LOT of research. Read up and pay attention! Below are the 100% .mil-spec parts lists to build a true SPR or Mk12 clone. Some of these parts are no longer manufactured and will require much effort and money to locate through forums and online brokers. Keep in mind the rifles were built off donor M16A1s, hence the prevalent A1 parts in the lower receivers and the BCGs. They were also first configured using parts available from 1998-2004, and most are inferior in some ways to newer designs. If this bothers you too much, STOP NOW. The rifles were issued as a kit in a Pelican 1700 case with cutouts. The kits included the rifle with suppressor, optic, bipod, an Eagle TAS-1 UMSS sling (unobtanium and also absolute crap), with a Dewey 1-piece cleaning rod plus Otis cleaning kit, and a cutout for magazines. An operator's manual was also included, however these have not been officially released for public consumption. However, the manuals are out there, and some companies building Mk12 uppers include one. Whether these are official .mil operator's manuals or specially made is currently unclear as the manual itself still contains language that it is not for distribution. - Alternate .mil-spec parts due to NFA, NLA parts, or changes in name/markings for current production in [brackets] - Extra notes about parts or availability are in (parenthesis) LOWER Lower receivers were standard across the SPR/Mk12 variants and the only variations would be between grips, stocks, and buffers. Most were marked either Colt or GM Hydramatic. All other parts were the same in regards to the lower parts. One caveat is the trigger, as the program originally selected the Knight's Armament 2-stage Full Auto Match trigger. Later on, some issues regarding negligent discharges occurred, and Geissele SSF triggers ultimately found their way into the Mk12 family. Whether 100% of all Mk12s eventually received the Geissele trigger isn't clear, so either is acceptable.
The upper receivers, which ultimately differentiate the four variants of the Mk12, have the most variation between each other. Early SPR/Mod0
ModH, Mod "Holland"
Naturally, once these rifles were issued to units, operators and even Marines used various non-issued parts. Here is a short summary of what has been seen: Early SPR/Mod0: Both Leupold 3.5-10x40mm and 3-9x36mm scopes have been used. Many have had carbine stocks like the old CAR-style, enhanced M4, SOPMOD Gen I, or even the Tactical DuoStock swapped on. Mod1: One 3rd SFG-issued rifle pictured with SSgt Robert J. Miller (MoH recipient) used an A.R.M.S #36 S-EX 5.56mm rail, and a Leupold M3X 10x fixed-power scope, possibly pulled from an M-24 or SR-25 rifle. Another has been seen with a Magpul PRS, LaRue mount, and a Premier Reticles 3-15x used by an AMU shooter, and a similar rifle was pictured on a FOB in a very posed-looking photo. Further, a USMC-issued Mod1 was seen using #22 Medium rings instead of High rings, and a LaRue mount has been spotted as well. Grips have varied from the usual A1, A2, and ERGO, and at least one Magpul MIAD has been used. As with the Mod0s, carbine stocks like the SOPMOD and M4 have been used on Mod1s. ModH: The Mod "Holland" was already a small-batch configuration, but even as soon as they were issued to 5th SFG units, some Ace SOCOM stocks were replaced with Magpul ACS and CTR stocks. Optics are basically anything existing in the unit's inventory, from S&B ShortDots still in the system, the 3-9x and 3.5-10x Leupold scopes from earlier Mod0s, and there's even a photo of an ELCAN on a Mod1 floating around. No non-magnified optics like EOTechs or regular Aimpoint M2/M4s, but Micros have been seen on offset mounts. Backup iron sights, as a whole, were almost entirely left unmounted. Grips were again the same usual selection. Parts Alternatives for Clone Building Many parts are rare, expensive, and/or both. Despite this, there are some alternatives to a 100% pure clone that will still provide the same visual look and performance. While not a museum-grade clone, most would be hard-pressed to discern the difference. Just know there are those of us out there that will haze and peer-pressure you into further moving your build towards a true clone. Barrel: Popular options are the White Oak Armament SPR barrel (rifle gas), BCM's SPR barrel, Rainier's Match and Ultramatch offerings (ensure it's the SPR contour with 12th Model profile), Ballistic Advantage's SPR barrel. Compass Lake Engineering can also spin a Mk12 profiled barrel with a Criterion chrome-lined blank, or even a Krieger, which was one of the original contenders for the program. The DPMS Mk12 barrels are NOT properly profiled for a clone. Optics & Rings: In the case of the Leupold 3-9x or 3.5-10x, it's generally okay to go for a non-illuminated version of either, sometimes with M1 or other turrets and reticles. As far as the NightForce scope, the 2.5-10x24mm is not generally released to the public anymore (with one recent exception through Sniper's Hide), so many use the 32mm or even 42mm versions with the #22 High rings. As for the rings, any of the recent produced A.R.M.S. #22s with the lever-stop humps are functionally the same, the desire for non-lever-stops is purely aesthetic when going for the most authentic look. As LaRue LT-104s have been seen in use, it is justifiable to use one depending on whether you have a specific rifle you want to copy, or even just if you absolutely cannot acquire #22 High rings. A.R.M.S. #38 SWAN Sleeve: The #38 family of sleeves are no longer available. Finding them secondhand usually cost $250-$300 easy, more for rarer early variants. Fortunately, PRi's copies of the sleeves look and function almost identically, with minor visual differences. PRi and other builders supply these currently for complete Mod0 builds. FSB: While the set-screw version of PRi's FSB is spec, most use the cross-bolt, clamp-style version. They are extremely robust, and when aligned and torqued, have been shown to hold strong enough that you'll probably shear your barrel extension pin or upper before it budges. This is mainly how Mod0 uppers are supplied by most vendors, including PRi themselves. Suppressor, Brake/Collar: Diverging from the OPS Inc. or AEM brake and collar will get you MAJOR flak. Trust me, I've been running an AAC SPR/M4 for years now and it took a LONG time to not get clubbed every time I posted it. The Allen Engineering AEM5 is basically the current production of the OPS Inc. 12th Model, as they were originally made by Ron Allen and his team in the first place. Only minor differences separate original OPS Inc. cans from AE cans, and these are only obvious to trained eyes. As far as the rest, you can swap Colt parts out for any other .mil-spec parts, like BCM, DD, CMT, etc. Any billet uppers/lowers, funky BCG coatings, extended bolt releases, etc. are extremely frowned upon. Remember, once you start going down the path of building a "better" rifle rather than what was spec, you're quickly beyond clone territory and would have been better off building a custom 16" or 20" rifle. Cloning is generally viewed as all-in or not at all. * * * * * * * * * * Complete Mk12 Mod0 / Mod1 Uppers Bravo Company Manufacturing High Caliber Sales Precision Reflex Inc. Specific Mk12 Tech Augee's side-by-side comparison of the original ARMS SWAN Sleeve and PRI reproduction PEQ Sleeves: bottom of p136 KOBK's side-by-side comparison of PRI Gen I, II, and III handguards, and Gen I and Gen II FSBs, and SWANs: middle of p137 Augee's Mod1 gas block tech: top half of p357 Glass1's Early Mod0 photo breakdown: middle of p449 tamboi's Leupold Vari-X, TS30, and TS30A2 scope history/lineage, and part numbers, p.792 * * * * * * * * * * As of 16 May 2024, Ron Allen is still making custom parts for his suppressors: View Quote * * * * * * * * * * Attached File |
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Originally Posted By teamjawbox: Last photo before she goes under the knife to have flats milled for set screw FSGB this week. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/343681/SmartSelect_20210425-170049_Photos_jpg-1918849.JPG View Quote Do you have an AEM5 in the works? |
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Have a backorder in with DSG, currently in month 5 of backorder
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"Christmas 2046, Are You Human or Machine?"
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Never had any interest in a deployment case. Went to the range yesterday and had too many rifles, not enough cases. Now I want a deployment case . Are there any places still selling the cases?
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Easiest way to get a mk12 specific case is probably just reproduction foam insert. I stumbled across some Navy M110 (mk11 Mod2) 1700 cases locally over the weekend that have a very similar layout to the MK12 mod0. Not clone correct for the MK12 obviously but it fits nicely and is cooler IMO (and cheaper) than getting reproduction stuff.
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Originally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts: Never had any interest in a deployment case. Went to the range yesterday and had too many rifles, not enough cases. Now I want a deployment case . Are there any places still selling the cases? View Quote That will probably be a hard thing to fulfill now, might be best off to buy a 1700 new with solid inserts and get yourself an electric filet knife and cut it yourself. Otherwise look around gunbroker or the EE, but expect to pay a couple bucks based on what I've seen |
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Originally Posted By kmcale: That will probably be a hard thing to fulfill now, might be best off to buy a 1700 new with solid inserts and get yourself an electric filet knife and cut it yourself. Otherwise look around gunbroker or the EE, but expect to pay a couple bucks based on what I've seen View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By kmcale: Originally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts: Never had any interest in a deployment case. Went to the range yesterday and had too many rifles, not enough cases. Now I want a deployment case . Are there any places still selling the cases? That will probably be a hard thing to fulfill now, might be best off to buy a 1700 new with solid inserts and get yourself an electric filet knife and cut it yourself. Otherwise look around gunbroker or the EE, but expect to pay a couple bucks based on what I've seen I kinda figured this is the route I'd have to take. I have no problem cutting foam. Was just hoping to get a used 1700. |
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Mk12 crowd was asleep at the wheel yesterday. Larry Vickers' Mk12 Mod 1 sold on Gunbroker. If you zoom in on the scope you can see that the bottom is marked RECON NAV-SPEC. This is also the same upper photographed in the AR15 Volume II book and used in this video.
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/897183067 https://m.facebook.com/VickersGuide/photos/a.946297822125293/1806238502797883/?type=3&locale2=fr_FR https://youtu.be/uTEhO79ip-s |
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Originally Posted By usnguns: Mk12 crowd was asleep at the wheel yesterday. Larry Vickers' Mk12 Mod 1 sold on Gunbroker. If you zoom in on the scope you can see that the bottom is marked RECON NAV-SPEC. This is also the same upper photographed in the AR15 Volume II book and used in this video. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/897183067 https://m.facebook.com/VickersGuide/photos/a.946297822125293/1806238502797883/?type=3&locale2=fr_FR https://youtu.be/uTEhO79ip-s View Quote We were all out shooting our mk12's |
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Were Armalite upper receivers used on Mod 1's, or was that limited to the Mod 0's?
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Originally Posted By JTM20: Were Armalite upper receivers used on Mod 1's, or was that limited to the Mod 0's? View Quote Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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I appreciate it. I've seen those pictures before but never noticed the Armalite forge code.
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Originally Posted By js1977: Well I guess I know what I can expect now... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By js1977: Originally Posted By TheShlouf: Yeah, I'd definitely open a claim up for that. Straight from the listing: "Condition:New: A brand-new, unused, unopened, undamaged item in its original packaging" He also has 1 negative feedback for what looks like the same issue: "Product was marked as new and is clearly not as well as not being marked as the pictures item. Parts missing, damaged and used in both items received. Will not be buying from again." Click To View Spoiler I got a delivery confirmation but won’t know how it is until I get home from work, keep my expectations low and I won’t be let down I guess🤷♂️ ETA; Got home, opened it up, fucking used and missing most of the attachments. Not sure if I want to ream his in negative feedback or live and learn, I do have the parts I can rob out of another I have, its just the principle. |
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How much crack did you have to smoke to reach that conclusion, a $20 rock or Whitney Houston level shit?
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Originally Posted By ctres94: Easiest way to get a mk12 specific case is probably just reproduction foam insert. I stumbled across some Navy M110 (mk11 Mod2) 1700 cases locally over the weekend that have a very similar layout to the MK12 mod0. Not clone correct for the MK12 obviously but it fits nicely and is cooler IMO (and cheaper) than getting reproduction stuff. View Quote I bought one of those this weekend as well. I didn't found out about the sale until later so I wasn't able to go the first day. They had some bigger 1720? Pelican rifle cases, but those sold out quick the first day. I wonder what the foam cutouts were on those or were they empty. |
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Originally Posted By bigmatt17073: I bought one of those this weekend as well. I didn't found out about the sale until later so I wasn't able to go the first day. They had some bigger 1720? Pelican rifle cases, but those sold out quick the first day. I wonder what the foam cutouts were on those or were they empty. View Quote I wasn't aware that they had been running the sale another day. I know they have regular sales over on the other side of the state though. Would be interesting to know what the other cases were. Were you there around noon on Saturday? |
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A little fun at Talladega CMP. Letting a buddy shoot.
Mk12 AEM5 600yds |
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Originally Posted By mstennes: I got a delivery confirmation but won't know how it is until I get home from work, keep my expectations low and I won't be let down I guess ETA; Got home, opened it up, fucking used and missing most of the attachments. Not sure if I want to ream his in negative feedback or live and learn, I do have the parts I can rob out of another I have, its just the principle. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By ctres94: I wasn't aware that they had been running the sale another day. I know they have regular sales over on the other side of the state though. Would be interesting to know what the other cases were. Were you there around noon on Saturday? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ctres94: Originally Posted By bigmatt17073: I bought one of those this weekend as well. I didn't found out about the sale until later so I wasn't able to go the first day. They had some bigger 1720? Pelican rifle cases, but those sold out quick the first day. I wonder what the foam cutouts were on those or were they empty. I wasn't aware that they had been running the sale another day. I know they have regular sales over on the other side of the state though. Would be interesting to know what the other cases were. Were you there around noon on Saturday? They did this one Friday and Saturday. I was there on Saturday around 2:30-3pm on my way to work. They were in the same spot about a month ago. I went to that one as well, but all I saw was overpriced beat to hell big huge Pelican/Hardigg cases. I was looking for Pelican 15## or 16## cases and they didn’t have any. Both times I went on the second day so there might have been better selection early on the first day. |
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Originally Posted By ringer706: So I was out on the motorcycle this weekend up in Santa Fe, pretending like I know how to handle a 650+lb BMW on single tracks and what does my sorry ass come home to this afternoon? https://i.imgur.com/Tk1RVb9.jpg The parts got finished at the anodizer over the weekend and I got the call to come pick them up as I was rolling back in to Dallas. It'll take me a good day or three to get the guides sorted, packed and stuffed in the mailing envelopes so I can make one big (heavy) trip to the post office, but we're finally at the finish line. And if I figured out the bulk shipping system correctly, everyone should be receiving a tracking email once the packages go out. Last thing, as a way of saying thank you for all your patience I had a little something extra made up that I'll be stuffing in with everyone's order so keep an eye out for it! View Quote *excitement intensifies* |
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Originally Posted By ringer706: So I was out on the motorcycle this weekend up in Santa Fe, pretending like I know how to handle a 650+lb BMW on single tracks and what does my sorry ass come home to this afternoon? https://i.imgur.com/Tk1RVb9.jpg The parts got finished at the anodizer over the weekend and I got the call to come pick them up as I was rolling back in to Dallas. It'll take me a good day or three to get the guides sorted, packed and stuffed in the mailing envelopes so I can make one big (heavy) trip to the post office, but we're finally at the finish line. And if I figured out the bulk shipping system correctly, everyone should be receiving a tracking email once the packages go out. Last thing, as a way of saying thank you for all your patience I had a little something extra made up that I'll be stuffing in with everyone's order so keep an eye out for it! View Quote Noice! |
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Originally Posted By js1977: I was gonna leave a negative review but since I checked out as a guest, I have to wait 5 days (new account) before I can post. I got most of everything except one or two things, but I was under the impression that I was buying new. If I had known it was used and probably missing parts, I wouldn't have bought it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By js1977: Originally Posted By mstennes: I got a delivery confirmation but won't know how it is until I get home from work, keep my expectations low and I won't be let down I guess ETA; Got home, opened it up, fucking used and missing most of the attachments. Not sure if I want to ream his in negative feedback or live and learn, I do have the parts I can rob out of another I have, its just the principle. I asked for a refund, so I will see if he replies or ignores me, either way I’m leaving negative feedback, I figure he has today to respond. Yea mine was used, the nylon brush is black and damn near worn out. I think all but two pieces are missing. I am beyond pissed at this. This has to be the worst of the lot he was selling. You could even smell it had been used before I unzipped it. |
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How much crack did you have to smoke to reach that conclusion, a $20 rock or Whitney Houston level shit?
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Originally Posted By mstennes: I asked for a refund, so I will see if he replies or ignores me, either way I’m leaving negative feedback, I figure he has today to respond. Yea mine was used, the nylon brush is black and damn near worn out. I think all but two pieces are missing. I am beyond pissed at this. This has to be the worst of the lot he was selling. You could even smell it had been used before I unzipped it. View Quote I would be pissed too. I kind of feel bad for posting it now, since it looks like I was one of the few that actually got what was pictured. I'd definitely be opening a claim if mine showed up like that, especially since there was another much cheaper listing for what you guys wound up getting. |
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Originally Posted By TheShlouf: I would be pissed too. I kind of feel bad for posting it now, since it looks like I was one of the few that actually got what was pictured. I'd definitely be opening a claim if mine showed up like that, especially since there was another much cheaper listing for what you guys wound up getting. View Quote I wouldn’t feel bad for it, you had no indication it was a bad seller at the time. The ones that got bad product need to leave feedback accordingly. I sent a message the night I got mine and it’s been two business days and still no return message so he probably knew he was selling used and didn’t care. At this point I’m glad I got two.... Two is one, one is none and all . |
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Originally Posted By Markius-Fox: Originally Posted By ringer706: So I was out on the motorcycle this weekend up in Santa Fe, pretending like I know how to handle a 650+lb BMW on single tracks and what does my sorry ass come home to this afternoon? https://i.imgur.com/Tk1RVb9.jpg The parts got finished at the anodizer over the weekend and I got the call to come pick them up as I was rolling back in to Dallas. It'll take me a good day or three to get the guides sorted, packed and stuffed in the mailing envelopes so I can make one big (heavy) trip to the post office, but we're finally at the finish line. And if I figured out the bulk shipping system correctly, everyone should be receiving a tracking email once the packages go out. Last thing, as a way of saying thank you for all your patience I had a little something extra made up that I'll be stuffing in with everyone's order so keep an eye out for it! Noice! I’m happy like a little school girl! |
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Originally Posted By TheShlouf: I would be pissed too. I kind of feel bad for posting it now, since it looks like I was one of the few that actually got what was pictured. I'd definitely be opening a claim if mine showed up like that, especially since there was another much cheaper listing for what you guys wound up getting. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By TheShlouf: Originally Posted By mstennes: I asked for a refund, so I will see if he replies or ignores me, either way I’m leaving negative feedback, I figure he has today to respond. Yea mine was used, the nylon brush is black and damn near worn out. I think all but two pieces are missing. I am beyond pissed at this. This has to be the worst of the lot he was selling. You could even smell it had been used before I unzipped it. I would be pissed too. I kind of feel bad for posting it now, since it looks like I was one of the few that actually got what was pictured. I'd definitely be opening a claim if mine showed up like that, especially since there was another much cheaper listing for what you guys wound up getting. I ordered one as well. It showed up yesterday. Brushes worn out, bag discolored with a big water/oil mark. I requested refund as I bought it because it was "new." |
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Anyone know if any of those Armalite OAR uppers are still for sale/available? There was a gentleman that was selling some recently and I can't find the post.
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"Christmas 2046, Are You Human or Machine?"
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Originally Posted By teamjawbox: Anyone know if any of those Armalite OAR uppers are still for sale/available? There was a gentleman that was selling some recently and I can't find the post. View Quote Not sure if he has anymore but it was Eric Sydow in IG @esydow13 who had them. I got one and it looks great. |
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Originally Posted By ResponsibleSecond: I ordered one as well. It showed up yesterday. Brushes worn out, bag discolored with a big water/oil mark. I requested refund as I bought it because it was "new." View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ResponsibleSecond: Originally Posted By TheShlouf: Originally Posted By mstennes: I asked for a refund, so I will see if he replies or ignores me, either way I’m leaving negative feedback, I figure he has today to respond. Yea mine was used, the nylon brush is black and damn near worn out. I think all but two pieces are missing. I am beyond pissed at this. This has to be the worst of the lot he was selling. You could even smell it had been used before I unzipped it. I would be pissed too. I kind of feel bad for posting it now, since it looks like I was one of the few that actually got what was pictured. I'd definitely be opening a claim if mine showed up like that, especially since there was another much cheaper listing for what you guys wound up getting. I ordered one as well. It showed up yesterday. Brushes worn out, bag discolored with a big water/oil mark. I requested refund as I bought it because it was "new." I got this reply this am, no refund yet though, Attached File |
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How much crack did you have to smoke to reach that conclusion, a $20 rock or Whitney Houston level shit?
”Guitargod1985” |
Originally Posted By Gremyashchy1911: Not sure if he has anymore but it was Eric Sydow in IG @esydow13 who had them. I got one and it looks great. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Gremyashchy1911: Originally Posted By teamjawbox: Anyone know if any of those Armalite OAR uppers are still for sale/available? There was a gentleman that was selling some recently and I can't find the post. Not sure if he has anymore but it was Eric Sydow in IG @esydow13 who had them. I got one and it looks great. Thank you! I'll reach out and see. Fingers crossed! |
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"Christmas 2046, Are You Human or Machine?"
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Originally Posted By mstennes: I asked for a refund, so I will see if he replies or ignores me, either way I’m leaving negative feedback, I figure he has today to respond. Yea mine was used, the nylon brush is black and damn near worn out. I think all but two pieces are missing. I am beyond pissed at this. This has to be the worst of the lot he was selling. You could even smell it had been used before I unzipped it. View Quote Mine came used with some extra bits hiding in the pocket, but mostly there; not new, but I can work with it. |
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Originally Posted By Gremyashchy1911: If yours came with a OG bore guide or a Wilcox Dr mount I’m gonna be so mad.... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Gremyashchy1911: Originally Posted By Markius-Fox: Mine came used with some extra bits hiding in the pocket, but mostly there; not new, but I can work with it. If yours came with a OG bore guide or a Wilcox Dr mount I’m gonna be so mad.... Yea, no kidding, mines not even workable, and I still ha r not gotten my refund! |
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How much crack did you have to smoke to reach that conclusion, a $20 rock or Whitney Houston level shit?
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Originally Posted By teamjawbox: Thank you! I'll reach out and see. Fingers crossed! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By teamjawbox: Originally Posted By Gremyashchy1911: Originally Posted By teamjawbox: Anyone know if any of those Armalite OAR uppers are still for sale/available? There was a gentleman that was selling some recently and I can't find the post. Not sure if he has anymore but it was Eric Sydow in IG @esydow13 who had them. I got one and it looks great. Thank you! I'll reach out and see. Fingers crossed! Darn! Literally 2 hours after I posted this one popped up on the EE and was gone immediately. I did reach out to the guy on IG and he's out but said he may have some more soon. |
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They look fantastic, another piece of the puzzle.
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Eurooptic has NXS 2.5-10x24's in stock.
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Sold out.
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Subscribe to in stock notifications. I guess it went rather quick. Email sent to me at 7:18 MST.
https://www.eurooptic.com//nightforce-nxs-25-10x24-zerostop-25-moa-moar-nvd-ptl-c462.aspx? |
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Originally Posted By JLAudio: Subscribe to in stock notifications. I guess it went rather quick. Email sent to me at 7:18 MST. https://www.eurooptic.com//nightforce-nxs-25-10x24-zerostop-25-moa-moar-nvd-ptl-c462.aspx? View Quote This ^^^ is how I got both of my x24’s. |
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Anyone got a bead on a correct Mod 0 FSB with flats? My barrel over at CLE is about to be spun and I thought i would have one by now. Was hoping to get it to them and get everything done in one fail swoop. No worries if not, i'll find one eventually.
Update: late Mod 0. |
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I’m sure some of you know and it’s not my listing but a ARMS #38 Peq 2-3 rail for gen three is on GB.
As far as the front sight I haven’t seen one in a minute. |
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So....I got one of the NXS 2.5-10x24s from EuroOptic....under rather weird circumstances....we'll see if it actually ships. Will disclose details if I actually receive it.
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Originally Posted By deadpunch: Anyone got a bead on a correct Mod 0 FSB with flats? My barrel over at CLE is about to be spun and I thought i would have one by now. Was hoping to get it to them and get everything done in one fail swoop. No worries if not, i'll find one eventually. View Quote What gen mod 0? |
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I'm asking which generation of the mod 0. The FSGB varies on whether you're talking early mod 0 or later gen 3 mod 0. I have an extra set screw FSGB but it's a PRI repro of the early mod 0 one and also has the thumb screw sight tower. Not sure if that's the kind you're looking for or if you're looking for a later mod 0 where the set screw base was more rounded on the legs and the sight tower did away with the thumb screw adjustment. |
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Originally Posted By teamjawbox: I'm asking which generation of the mod 0. The FSGB varies on whether you're talking early mod 0 or later gen 3 mod 0. I have an extra set screw FSGB but it's a PRI repro of the early mod 0 one and also has the thumb screw sight tower. Not sure if that's the kind you're looking for or if you're looking for a later mod 0 where the set screw base was more rounded on the legs and the sight tower did away with the thumb screw adjustment. View Quote My bad man, I super skimmed your message during my meetings this morning. Yeah, it was late Mod 0. Updated original thread with that detail because I was a big dummy. |
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Originally Posted By deadpunch: My bad man, I super skimmed your message during my meetings this morning. Yeah, it was late Mod 0. Updated original thread with that detail because I was a big dummy. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By deadpunch: Originally Posted By teamjawbox: I'm asking which generation of the mod 0. The FSGB varies on whether you're talking early mod 0 or later gen 3 mod 0. I have an extra set screw FSGB but it's a PRI repro of the early mod 0 one and also has the thumb screw sight tower. Not sure if that's the kind you're looking for or if you're looking for a later mod 0 where the set screw base was more rounded on the legs and the sight tower did away with the thumb screw adjustment. My bad man, I super skimmed your message during my meetings this morning. Yeah, it was late Mod 0. Updated original thread with that detail because I was a big dummy. LOL, all good! Unfortunately I don't have an extra one of the correct late mod 0 ones but will IM you if I come across one. Good luck! |
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