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Posted: 4/18/2016 3:52:44 PM EDT
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any word on the dog? pirelli AHAHAHAHAHA, I rost |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 3:54:30 PM EDT
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Very much so, especially when you review the recording and see the braking skid marks from said truck straddle the bike he was on. He is lucky. Observe how in the aftermath said truck is nowhere apparent. You would think he would stop. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The guy leaping out of the way of the oncoming semi tractor was good. http://s3.postimg.org/xp0744po3/Capture.jpg Very much so, especially when you review the recording and see the braking skid marks from said truck straddle the bike he was on. He is lucky. Observe how in the aftermath said truck is nowhere apparent. You would think he would stop. Why? He didn't hit anything and there was obviously plenty of people there to help. |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 3:55:43 PM EDT
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Watched a guy wipe out years ago when a flock of starlings got in front of him.
I stopped to check on him. His leathers did the job pretty well. Had some 2nd degree burns on his hips and but through the leather but no broken bones. Killed at least 5 or 6 birds. He was shaken up but declined a trip to the ER in an ambulance. Waited for his wife to show up and take him. |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 3:56:49 PM EDT
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another video from one of the motorcycles in the back http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=96f_1460904727 I want to see that guy's helmet cam! 
https://j.gifs.com/J6KOWy.gif Wow, that's impressive. He actually kicked himself over mid-roll. Nuts. |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 3:57:09 PM EDT
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any word on the dog? "PIRELLI" 
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Posted: 4/18/2016 4:01:25 PM EDT
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I hope the dog was OK. he wasn't you just saw him killed. My little Gege got loose back in Oct. got hit by a truck doing 30 ish. right infront of me. got all the skin ripped off her hind leg. vet told me it was amiricle she didn't have internal injuries or broken bones. that dog in the video got hit at over 50 mph. he's dead. |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 4:03:43 PM EDT
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Crazy video, that supermoto rider was so lucky, and amazing reaction mid slide
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Posted: 4/18/2016 4:07:42 PM EDT
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My BIL hit a jack rabbit on our way from San Diego to Las Vegas. He was 60 ft in front of me and just destroyed that thing.
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Posted: 4/18/2016 4:09:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Very much so, especially when you review the recording and see the braking skid marks from said truck straddle the bike he was on. He is lucky. Observe how in the aftermath said truck is nowhere apparent. You would think he would stop. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The guy leaping out of the way of the oncoming semi tractor was good. http://s3.postimg.org/xp0744po3/Capture.jpg Very much so, especially when you review the recording and see the braking skid marks from said truck straddle the bike he was on. He is lucky. Observe how in the aftermath said truck is nowhere apparent. You would think he would stop. |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 4:13:25 PM EDT
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Honestly, looking at the vid again, the rider that hit the dog was toast no matter what. No time to do much at all before impact. He had a few choices to make, but only enough time and skill to make one choice. I'm going to assume any rider would have made the same choice to brake. The vector of the dog's path and his path were going to be close and braking is the first instinct that would've come to mind. Scrub just enough speed off to miss the dog by a milli-second and he would have been fine. Another choice would be to power through the dog and hope to lighten the front wheel. This choice assumes you are going to hit the object. Again, with the time, speed and path of the dog, going to guess the rider thought the dog would clear his tire. Brake and swerve? I doubt many experienced riders would want to make this choice. If you hit the object doing this, expect to be sliding on the ground after impact. |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 4:14:32 PM EDT
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If I was in that situation all I would've seen was my buddy and his bike laid out on the road in front of me. Run over your buddy, t-bone his bike or take a slide. I would've took the slide as well. That's why I have frame sliders. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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R6 guy never had a chance, he couldn't avoid the dog. Supermoto guy panic braked himself into a wreck, but it's impossible to know if he could have avoided crashing even if he hadn't. If I was in that situation all I would've seen was my buddy and his bike laid out on the road in front of me. Run over your buddy, t-bone his bike or take a slide. I would've took the slide as well. That's why I have frame sliders. Supermoto guy would have done a lot better to stay upright & on his brakes. Probably wouldn't have even contacted his buddy. |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 4:16:30 PM EDT
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ATGATT. Incredible video, good thing to watch this time of year with everyone breaking out their bikes. Ride safe guys.
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Posted: 4/18/2016 4:16:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow, that's impressive. He actually kicked himself over mid-roll. Nuts. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: another video from one of the motorcycles in the back http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=96f_1460904727 I want to see that guy's helmet cam! https://j.gifs.com/J6KOWy.gif Wow, that's impressive. He actually kicked himself over mid-roll. Nuts. That guy almost left the Earth via the semi. Did the second camera guy hit the guy on the ground? |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 4:17:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And don't give it back for 6 months Good holster though.. stayed secure Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Wonder if the rider is a member. He's packing. What's the procedure for when emt's come and he's packing? How is his pistol secured? And don't give it back for 6 months Good holster though.. stayed secure That's such bullshit! Why in the hell would they "secure" it? Nobody's in danger. It's fine right where it is.  |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 4:22:39 PM EDT
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He had a few choices to make, but only enough time and skill to make one choice. I'm going to assume any rider would have made the same choice to brake. The vector of the dog's path and his path were going to be close and braking is the first instinct that would've come to mind. Scrub just enough speed off to miss the dog by a milli-second and he would have been fine. Another choice would be to power through the dog and hope to lighten the front wheel. This choice assumes you are going to hit the object. Again, with the time, speed and path of the dog, going to guess the rider thought the dog would clear his tire. Brake and swerve? I doubt many experienced riders would want to make this choice. If you hit the object doing this, expect to be sliding on the ground after impact. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Honestly, looking at the vid again, the rider that hit the dog was toast no matter what. No time to do much at all before impact. He had a few choices to make, but only enough time and skill to make one choice. I'm going to assume any rider would have made the same choice to brake. The vector of the dog's path and his path were going to be close and braking is the first instinct that would've come to mind. Scrub just enough speed off to miss the dog by a milli-second and he would have been fine. Another choice would be to power through the dog and hope to lighten the front wheel. This choice assumes you are going to hit the object. Again, with the time, speed and path of the dog, going to guess the rider thought the dog would clear his tire. Brake and swerve? I doubt many experienced riders would want to make this choice. If you hit the object doing this, expect to be sliding on the ground after impact. For any animal smaller than me, that's pretty much my policy unless I'm sure I can completely evade it. The problem is that canids are fast and unpredictable and almost as likely to "dodge into your dodge". Squirrels and such? Too bad mate: I'll take my chances hitting you square with the front suspension unloaded and bet on my 730# combined curb weight and relatively wide handlebars to carry the day. 
Different story on an R6, though, and the dog might have popped into his field of view from behind the cameraman at the last second. Also ATGATFT, and I don't give a shit if someone thinks I look funny riding a cruiser with a full face helmet. |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 4:36:01 PM EDT
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Supermoto guy would have done a lot better to stay upright & on his brakes. Probably wouldn't have even contacted his buddy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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R6 guy never had a chance, he couldn't avoid the dog. Supermoto guy panic braked himself into a wreck, but it's impossible to know if he could have avoided crashing even if he hadn't. If I was in that situation all I would've seen was my buddy and his bike laid out on the road in front of me. Run over your buddy, t-bone his bike or take a slide. I would've took the slide as well. That's why I have frame sliders. Supermoto guy would have done a lot better to stay upright & on his brakes. Probably wouldn't have even contacted his buddy. Supermoto guy never had time to mull it over. He simply grabbed a handful, locked the front and went down. "Bruh, this sumo is the shit, bruh. I'm going to pass Bob on his R6 because my sumo is the shi.....OH DAMN!" (Stabs at the brakes and is down before he knows it). |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 4:37:31 PM EDT
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What's the procedure for when emt's come and he's packing? How is his pistol secured? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wonder if the rider is a member. He's packing. What's the procedure for when emt's come and he's packing? How is his pistol secured? Both times I've been crumpled by the side of the road, the EMT's didn't care about my CCW. Of course I told them about it first. They told the Officers on scene who didn't care either. But I'm CCW'ing legally. Made one trip to the ER via the ambulance. Gun stayed in the holster while I was being transported on a backboard. Once I was in the ER their security guard took my gun and holster for safekeeping. Funny part was when I was discharged, their security wanted to walk me out the front door and just hand me the gun back in plain view. I asked if I could use a rest room and conceal the gun in private. They agreed that would be a better method than just handing me my gun over in public view. Was still escorted out, but nobody else saw anything. |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 4:50:03 PM EDT
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What's the procedure for when emt's come and he's packing? How is his pistol secured? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wonder if the rider is a member. He's packing. What's the procedure for when emt's come and he's packing? How is his pistol secured? Here's a recent thread about that: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1857204_What_happens_to_your_gun_if_you_go_in_an_ambulance_.html When I was in an accident, the officer on scene secured mine. But I had a pretty good bump on my head and was a bit out of it. He turned it in to the ER's security and I got it back as soon as I got discharged. |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 4:58:23 PM EDT
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Supermoto guy never had time to mull it over. He simply grabbed a handful, locked the front and went down. "Bruh, this sumo is the shit, bruh. I'm going to pass Bob on his R6 because my sumo is the shi.....OH DAMN!" (Stabs at the brakes and is down before he knows it). Quote HistoryQuoted:
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R6 guy never had a chance, he couldn't avoid the dog. Supermoto guy panic braked himself into a wreck, but it's impossible to know if he could have avoided crashing even if he hadn't. If I was in that situation all I would've seen was my buddy and his bike laid out on the road in front of me. Run over your buddy, t-bone his bike or take a slide. I would've took the slide as well. That's why I have frame sliders. Supermoto guy would have done a lot better to stay upright & on his brakes. Probably wouldn't have even contacted his buddy. Supermoto guy never had time to mull it over. He simply grabbed a handful, locked the front and went down. "Bruh, this sumo is the shit, bruh. I'm going to pass Bob on his R6 because my sumo is the shi.....OH DAMN!" (Stabs at the brakes and is down before he knows it). I hate to Monday morning quarterback the guy: If I'm ever in his position I sure hope I have the cold-bloodedness to haul down my Magna with it's just-kinda-barely-acceptable twin piston Nissins, because I sure doubt I have the agility to jump out of the way of semi truck while sliding.
Having said that, the video is an object lesson in why "lay 'er down!" is a terrible idea: It's plainly visible that he was scrubbing off speed much faster when he was actually riding the bike instead of sliding. And then there's the whole "not getting pancaked by a semi" thing. Also, he was late to react: He should have been off the throttle and on the binders the second he saw the dog or R6 guy laying on the brakes. A bike that light should've pulled up with yards to spare. That video really makes me want to eye up some more Ducatis. They might be preposterously expensive and make HDs look reliable, but holy shit do those Italians put some braking systems on their bikes!! |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 5:03:37 PM EDT
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I hate to Monday morning quarterback the guy: If I'm ever in his position I sure hope I have the cold-bloodedness to haul down my Magna with it's just-kinda-barely-acceptable twin piston Nissins, because I sure doubt I have the agility to jump out of the way of semi truck while sliding.
Having said that, the video is an object lesson in why "lay 'er down!" is a terrible idea: It's plainly visible that he was scrubbing off speed much faster when he was actually riding the bike instead of sliding. And then there's the whole "not getting pancaked by a semi" thing. Also, he was late to react: He should have been off the throttle and on the binders the second he saw the dog or R6 guy laying on the brakes. A bike that light should've pulled up with yards to spare. That video really makes me want to eye up some more Ducatis. They might be preposterously expensive and make HDs look reliable, but holy shit do those Italians put some braking systems on their bikes!! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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R6 guy never had a chance, he couldn't avoid the dog. Supermoto guy panic braked himself into a wreck, but it's impossible to know if he could have avoided crashing even if he hadn't. If I was in that situation all I would've seen was my buddy and his bike laid out on the road in front of me. Run over your buddy, t-bone his bike or take a slide. I would've took the slide as well. That's why I have frame sliders. Supermoto guy would have done a lot better to stay upright & on his brakes. Probably wouldn't have even contacted his buddy. Supermoto guy never had time to mull it over. He simply grabbed a handful, locked the front and went down. "Bruh, this sumo is the shit, bruh. I'm going to pass Bob on his R6 because my sumo is the shi.....OH DAMN!" (Stabs at the brakes and is down before he knows it). I hate to Monday morning quarterback the guy: If I'm ever in his position I sure hope I have the cold-bloodedness to haul down my Magna with it's just-kinda-barely-acceptable twin piston Nissins, because I sure doubt I have the agility to jump out of the way of semi truck while sliding.
Having said that, the video is an object lesson in why "lay 'er down!" is a terrible idea: It's plainly visible that he was scrubbing off speed much faster when he was actually riding the bike instead of sliding. And then there's the whole "not getting pancaked by a semi" thing. Also, he was late to react: He should have been off the throttle and on the binders the second he saw the dog or R6 guy laying on the brakes. A bike that light should've pulled up with yards to spare. That video really makes me want to eye up some more Ducatis. They might be preposterously expensive and make HDs look reliable, but holy shit do those Italians put some braking systems on their bikes!! Like this? My dream bike. 
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Posted: 4/18/2016 5:16:38 PM EDT
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Is it wrong that I think the most interesting part is the COE? Always the first one at the scene of a wreck
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Posted: 4/18/2016 5:20:37 PM EDT
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dont know if this has been posted
another view same indecent. http://i.imgur.com/fnoWwLL.gifv edit its on page two im too late |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 5:32:39 PM EDT
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I hate to Monday morning quarterback the guy: If I'm ever in his position I sure hope I have the cold-bloodedness to haul down my Magna with it's just-kinda-barely-acceptable twin piston Nissins, because I sure doubt I have the agility to jump out of the way of semi truck while sliding.
Having said that, the video is an object lesson in why "lay 'er down!" is a terrible idea: It's plainly visible that he was scrubbing off speed much faster when he was actually riding the bike instead of sliding. And then there's the whole "not getting pancaked by a semi" thing. Also, he was late to react: He should have been off the throttle and on the binders the second he saw the dog or R6 guy laying on the brakes. A bike that light should've pulled up with yards to spare. That video really makes me want to eye up some more Ducatis. They might be preposterously expensive and make HDs look reliable, but holy shit do those Italians put some braking systems on their bikes!! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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R6 guy never had a chance, he couldn't avoid the dog. Supermoto guy panic braked himself into a wreck, but it's impossible to know if he could have avoided crashing even if he hadn't. If I was in that situation all I would've seen was my buddy and his bike laid out on the road in front of me. Run over your buddy, t-bone his bike or take a slide. I would've took the slide as well. That's why I have frame sliders. Supermoto guy would have done a lot better to stay upright & on his brakes. Probably wouldn't have even contacted his buddy. Supermoto guy never had time to mull it over. He simply grabbed a handful, locked the front and went down. "Bruh, this sumo is the shit, bruh. I'm going to pass Bob on his R6 because my sumo is the shi.....OH DAMN!" (Stabs at the brakes and is down before he knows it). I hate to Monday morning quarterback the guy: If I'm ever in his position I sure hope I have the cold-bloodedness to haul down my Magna with it's just-kinda-barely-acceptable twin piston Nissins, because I sure doubt I have the agility to jump out of the way of semi truck while sliding.
Having said that, the video is an object lesson in why "lay 'er down!" is a terrible idea: It's plainly visible that he was scrubbing off speed much faster when he was actually riding the bike instead of sliding. And then there's the whole "not getting pancaked by a semi" thing. Also, he was late to react: He should have been off the throttle and on the binders the second he saw the dog or R6 guy laying on the brakes. A bike that light should've pulled up with yards to spare. That video really makes me want to eye up some more Ducatis. They might be preposterously expensive and make HDs look reliable, but holy shit do those Italians put some braking systems on their bikes!! I dunno. I watch the vid and the dog, being the exact same color as the shoulder of the road, isn't visible until the camera man is on top of it. It seems pretty likely that the R6 guy never saw it, as the stagger of the formation prob had the camera guy screening the dog until it was in front of him. Less than a second later the sumo guy is skating. I've seen that exact panic brake move before. Grabbing a handful of front brake in an instant will surely lock the front, and the paint didn't help matters, whereas a light initial squeeze followed by the hardest brake lever squeeze you can muster won't lock the front unless you are severely traction compromised. And then maybe, maybe he could have avoided the crash, but it's impossible to tell thru the fisheye GoPro making it hard to judge distances, not knowing the skill level of the riders involved, when they saw the dog, etc etc etc. Everyone in that video is extremely lucky. |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 5:34:47 PM EDT
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Wonder if the rider is a member. He's packing. What's the procedure for when emt's come and he's packing? How is his pistol secured? I hit a deer on my bike last summer. Highway Patrolman came to the ambulance and told me to let someone lock my pistol inside my saddlebag and that he would let the wrecker operator know it was in there. Since I was leaving in an ambulance, I wasn't in a position to argue. I had a friend go and recover my gun the next day. Towing company was very cool about it, said they secured the bike inside their building because the Trooper had told them about the gun. |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 5:43:21 PM EDT
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Is it wrong that I think the most interesting part is the COE? Always the first one at the scene of a wreck
Lol I was reading the whole thread to see if someone mentioned it. I almost never see them anymore. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 5:55:25 PM EDT
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dog just being a dog........pile up like talledega
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Posted: 4/18/2016 5:56:26 PM EDT
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A friend hit a St Bernard at night, on two lane highway, he was going about 60mph
The dog dead, bike totaled, my friend had lot's road rash and bruises , I'd say his leathers helped lot to protect him I'll always remember all the dog fur in between the front rim and tire rubber plus all the blood all over the bike |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 6:38:37 PM EDT
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Feel really bad for the dog
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Posted: 4/18/2016 6:59:26 PM EDT
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If I was in that situation all I would've seen was my buddy and his bike laid out on the road in front of me. Run over your buddy, t-bone his bike or take a slide. I would've took the slide as well. That's why I have frame sliders. Supermoto guy would have done a lot better to stay upright & on his brakes. Probably wouldn't have even contacted his buddy. Supermoto guy never had time to mull it over. He simply grabbed a handful, locked the front and went down. "Bruh, this sumo is the shit, bruh. I'm going to pass Bob on his R6 because my sumo is the shi.....OH DAMN!" (Stabs at the brakes and is down before he knows it). I hate to Monday morning quarterback the guy: If I'm ever in his position I sure hope I have the cold-bloodedness to haul down my Magna with it's just-kinda-barely-acceptable twin piston Nissins, because I sure doubt I have the agility to jump out of the way of semi truck while sliding.
Having said that, the video is an object lesson in why "lay 'er down!" is a terrible idea: It's plainly visible that he was scrubbing off speed much faster when he was actually riding the bike instead of sliding. And then there's the whole "not getting pancaked by a semi" thing. Also, he was late to react: He should have been off the throttle and on the binders the second he saw the dog or R6 guy laying on the brakes. A bike that light should've pulled up with yards to spare. That video really makes me want to eye up some more Ducatis. They might be preposterously expensive and make HDs look reliable, but holy shit do those Italians put some braking systems on their bikes!! Like this? My dream bike. http://www.supersportler.de/showroom/files/ducati_1198_s_2010_still_01.jpg More of Diavel guy. My back ain't havin' that for extended amounts of time, no matter how beautiful it is. 
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Posted: 4/18/2016 7:00:17 PM EDT
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Wonder if the rider is a member. He's packing. What's the procedure for when emt's come and he's packing? How is his pistol secured? And don't give it back for 6 months Good holster though.. stayed secure Looks like a SERPA to me. |
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Posted: 4/19/2016 9:55:50 AM EDT
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Here's the way it was explained to me, in a few different instances. If you're putting enough into the front brake, the corresponding drastic change in weight distribution to the front, and the resulting significantly reduced weight on the rear means no significant braking or control from that tire. The best you can do is quickly squeeze as much front brake as the conditions and your skill will allow. This is a panic stop on public roads. Any rider in this situation will serve his interests best by forgetting about the rear brake and correctly use as much front as you can. Honestly, looking at the vid again, the rider that hit the dog was toast no matter what. No time to do much at all before impact. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Very serious. I assume your incredulity means you have a response. I'm listening if you do. Just making sure I don't give a serious response to a comment meant as a joke. The front brake is a magnificent device, great stopping power. But on a motorcycle there a point at which you can apply too much front brake and this brings the rear wheel off the ground. When this happens a few things could go down; Flip over the handlebars similar to the video, loose control because the gyroscopic force of both wheels are now janky as hell, or you do a graceful "stoppie". Applying the rear brake puts down force on the rear. You can also apply to much rear brake and slide. There's a finesse to stopping quickly to say the least. Here's the way it was explained to me, in a few different instances. If you're putting enough into the front brake, the corresponding drastic change in weight distribution to the front, and the resulting significantly reduced weight on the rear means no significant braking or control from that tire. The best you can do is quickly squeeze as much front brake as the conditions and your skill will allow. This is a panic stop on public roads. Any rider in this situation will serve his interests best by forgetting about the rear brake and correctly use as much front as you can. Honestly, looking at the vid again, the rider that hit the dog was toast no matter what. No time to do much at all before impact. Totally agree, however properly using the front and rear brake simultaneously is the correct way. Though when DHTF (dog hits the front), it's kinda hard to focus on doing things the correct way...
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Posted: 4/19/2016 10:03:20 AM EDT
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they both grabbed a shit ton of front brake and crashed. Exactly. A LOT of people don't use their rear brakes properly because the front is so effective. Those rear brakes keep you from going over like these guys. Is that true? Can you explain how your rear brake helps you here? Did you never own a bicycle ? |
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Posted: 4/19/2016 10:11:21 AM EDT
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they both grabbed a shit ton of front brake and crashed. Exactly. A LOT of people don't use their rear brakes properly because the front is so effective. Those rear brakes keep you from going over like these guys. Is that true? Can you explain how your rear brake helps you here? Did you never own a bicycle ? A long time ago, yes. |
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Posted: 4/19/2016 10:28:03 AM EDT
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Happened to me
Hit a big farm dog with my dirt bike on our farm Dog got caught up in front end and I went down.....dog got up and walked it off |
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Posted: 4/19/2016 10:29:00 AM EDT
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Happened to me Hit a big farm dog with my dirt bike on our farm Dog got caught up in front end and I went down.....dog got up and walked it off Did you die? |
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Posted: 4/19/2016 10:34:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryLooks like he forgot to take his helmet protector bag off before the ride
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Posted: 4/19/2016 10:49:08 AM EDT
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Happened to me Hit a big farm dog with my dirt bike on our farm Dog got caught up in front end and I went down.....dog got up and walked it off Did you die? Was in the dirt so I was GTG Dog was a big black newfoundland He was absolutely fine after the 45mph impact
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Posted: 4/19/2016 10:52:27 AM EDT
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Was in the dirt so I was GTG Dog was a big black newfoundland He was absolutely fine after the 45mph impact
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Happened to me Hit a big farm dog with my dirt bike on our farm Dog got caught up in front end and I went down.....dog got up and walked it off Did you die? Was in the dirt so I was GTG Dog was a big black newfoundland He was absolutely fine after the 45mph impact
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Posted: 4/19/2016 10:58:58 AM EDT
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Was in the dirt so I was GTG Dog was a big black newfoundland He was absolutely fine after the 45mph impact
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Happened to me Hit a big farm dog with my dirt bike on our farm Dog got caught up in front end and I went down.....dog got up and walked it off Did you die? Was in the dirt so I was GTG Dog was a big black newfoundland He was absolutely fine after the 45mph impact
Thanks, you kind of left us hanging on your condition . |
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Posted: 4/19/2016 10:59:36 AM EDT
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they both grabbed a shit ton of front brake and crashed. Exactly. A LOT of people don't use their rear brakes properly because the front is so effective. Those rear brakes keep you from going over like these guys. Is that true? Can you explain how your rear brake helps you here? Front brake, uplift on rear wheel. Rear brake, downthrust on front wheel. Simple dymanics. If you are being serious, you have never ridden a bike at speed and relied heavily on the brakes to actually stop you. Unless we're talking a big fat land-yacht with a massively long wheel base and a fat chick on the back. |
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Posted: 4/19/2016 10:59:43 AM EDT
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Guy in front never knew what hit him. He never saw it coming and is completely faultless. Second guy would have been better off keeping it on two wheels and definitely could have left a larger following distance but I am not going to bust his balls too hard on something that transpired in less than a second.
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Posted: 4/19/2016 11:01:31 AM EDT
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Guy in front never knew what hit him. He never saw it coming and is completely faultless. Second guy would have been better off keeping it on two wheels and definitely could have left a larger following distance but I am not going to bust his balls too hard on something that transpired in less than a second. I also love how the one guy is more concerned about who's dog it is vs calling 911 and addressing the immediate concerns. I bet after they carted his friend away, he went around banging on doors trying to throw a tantrum. |
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Posted: 4/19/2016 11:03:17 AM EDT
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Gotta master panicked braking and life will be better in 2 wheels.
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Posted: 4/19/2016 11:08:59 AM EDT
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If you're putting enough into the front brake, the corresponding drastic change in weight distribution to the front, and the resulting significantly reduced weight on the rear means no significant braking or control from that tire. Pretty much this. You're going to stop in the shortest distance when your rear is basically unloaded entirely, just short of lifting. That means it's not doing much in the way of providing extra stopping power, and if you're not braking in a straight line it's going to try and outrun you on the outside... And as has been said, you have to roll into the front brake, giving time for weight transfer before hauling on it, or you'll lock it right up. In that intermediate time, sure, adding a little rear might have an effect for the first 0.1 second until the weight transfers to the front. After that, if you don't get off the rear, it will lock and slide, which can low-side you, or if you let off at the wrong time, toss you into the weeds. |
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Posted: 4/19/2016 11:17:07 AM EDT
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Needed this
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Posted: 4/19/2016 11:21:15 AM EDT
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In before "service dog"
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Posted: 4/19/2016 11:24:47 AM EDT
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another video from one of the motorcycles in the back http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=96f_1460904727 I want to see that guy's helmet cam!
https://j.gifs.com/J6KOWy.gif Wow, that's impressive. He actually kicked himself over mid-roll. Nuts. "Everybody wants to be ninja until it's time to do ninja shit." 
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Posted: 4/19/2016 12:15:02 PM EDT
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Can we just put to rest the idea that "Laying it down" is a conscious decision riders make to avoid a crash?
If some one says "i had to lay'er down" they are just telling you that they lost control...plain and simple. No, laying it down will not bring you to a stop faster. The fastest way to stop is to stay upright and on the brakes, especially if you claim your bike has sliders. Think about it, sliders are designed to slide...usually made from metal or Delrin both of which have a poor friction coefficient especially when comparing the kinetic friction coefficient of delrin/metal to the static coefficient of rubber. |
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Posted: 4/19/2016 12:22:35 PM EDT
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Can we just put to rest the idea that "Laying it down" is a conscious decision riders make to avoid a crash? If some one says "i had to lay'er down" they are just telling you that they lost control...plain and simple. No, laying it down will not bring you to a stop faster. The fastest way to stop is to stay upright and on the brakes, especially if you claim your bike has sliders. Think about it, sliders are designed to slide...usually made from metal or Delrin both of which have a poor friction coefficient especially when comparing the kinetic friction coefficient of delrin/metal to the static coefficient of rubber. One could argue that sliding on the pavement, provided you're wearing the correct gear, is better than staying upright, hitting an object and flipping over the handlebars with a ~400lb machine followed closely behind. My .02 |
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Posted: 4/19/2016 12:32:38 PM EDT
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Can we just put to rest the idea that "Laying it down" is a conscious decision riders make to avoid a crash? If some one says "i had to lay'er down" they are just telling you that they lost control...plain and simple. No, laying it down will not bring you to a stop faster. The fastest way to stop is to stay upright and on the brakes, especially if you claim your bike has sliders. Think about it, sliders are designed to slide...usually made from metal or Delrin both of which have a poor friction coefficient especially when comparing the kinetic friction coefficient of delrin/metal to the static coefficient of rubber. One could argue that sliding on the pavement, provided you're wearing the correct gear, is better than staying upright, hitting an object and flipping over the handlebars with a ~400lb machine followed closely behind. My .02 except if you have time to rationalize "I better lay it down so I don't superman" then you probably could avoid the accident all together or slow to the point of not flying anyway. I agree with slammed, most riders who "lay her down" don't actually decide, they just panic and lose control. I have high sided before and though there were many contributing factors leading up to it ultimately I chose the wrong corrective actions and lost control. I damn sure didn't want to hit the ground. |
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