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Link Posted: 4/18/2016 1:08:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/18/2016 1:29:13 PM EDT by Powerkicker]
I was looking for the "Dog is sorry" meme. No luck. This will have to do.

Link Posted: 4/18/2016 1:10:19 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/18/2016 1:14:12 PM EDT
The second guy that crashed had a come to jesus moment when he jumped out of the way of the semi truck.

He's going to church every Sunday from now on.
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 1:14:30 PM EDT
To be fair, the white supermoto rider behind the impact vehicle didn't have many good options. Swerve right and hit his buddy who is tumbling on the ground, swerve left and possibly hit a  semi cab, go straight and right into the back of the sliding motorcycle. They both lived so it was a good choice but damn he bailed on the bike and threw himself off in the path of the semi... maybe not what I would have done .



Not a fun scenario to find yourself in.
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 1:17:26 PM EDT
over 4 grand worth    
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Originally Posted By scootr29:
That tractor was laying down some rubber....



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He made a ruff landing
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 1:25:04 PM EDT
The displaced anger towards the dog?  Yeah, whatever.
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 1:26:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By titleiiredneck:



He made a ruff landing
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Originally Posted By titleiiredneck:



He made a ruff landing

ZING !!!!
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 1:27:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SCvARminter:


That dog wasn't big enough to cause that. The second guy didn't hit anything and he flipped.
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Originally Posted By SCvARminter:
Originally Posted By RayFromJersey:
Originally Posted By twckxbzd:
they both grabbed a shit ton of front brake and crashed.


Yeah! It can't possibly be because the bike hit the dog at all!



That dog wasn't big enough to cause that. The second guy didn't hit anything and he flipped.

The second guy didn't flip or swerve. Looked to me like he felt there was no where to go so he laid his bike down and took his chances on the slide.
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 1:30:39 PM EDT
from the pics above... dog turned the front wheel for him
no saving that

surprised second guy didn't die of a heart attack looking face first at that 18 wheeler
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 1:32:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Th0r:

The second guy didn't flip or swerve. He felt he had no where to go so he laid his bike down and took his chances on the slide.
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Originally Posted By Th0r:
Originally Posted By SCvARminter:
Originally Posted By RayFromJersey:
Originally Posted By twckxbzd:
they both grabbed a shit ton of front brake and crashed.


Yeah! It can't possibly be because the bike hit the dog at all!



That dog wasn't big enough to cause that. The second guy didn't hit anything and he flipped.

The second guy didn't flip or swerve. He felt he had no where to go so he laid his bike down and took his chances on the slide.

Given the coefficient of friction of rubber vs nylon, I don't care if it's static or kinetic, I'm going to place my bets on rubber.
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 1:32:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Th0r:

The second guy didn't flip or swerve. He felt he had no where to go so he laid his bike down and took his chances on the slide.
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Originally Posted By Th0r:
Originally Posted By SCvARminter:
Originally Posted By RayFromJersey:
Originally Posted By twckxbzd:
they both grabbed a shit ton of front brake and crashed.


Yeah! It can't possibly be because the bike hit the dog at all!



That dog wasn't big enough to cause that. The second guy didn't hit anything and he flipped.

The second guy didn't flip or swerve. He felt he had no where to go so he laid his bike down and took his chances on the slide.


Didn't work out so well, he slid straight in the path of the semi. He moved outta the way real fast.
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 1:33:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By unauthenticated:
To be fair, the white supermoto rider behind the impact vehicle didn't have many good options. Swerve right and hit his buddy who is tumbling on the ground, swerve left and possibly hit a  semi cab, go straight and right into the back of the sliding motorcycle. They both lived so it was a good choice but damn he bailed on the bike and threw himself off in the path of the semi... maybe not what I would have done .

Not a fun scenario to find yourself in.
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Another reason why riding all bunched up in "packs" like that is dumb.  
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 1:34:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By tcrpe:



The guy leaping out of the way of the oncoming semi tractor was good.

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Originally Posted By tcrpe:
Originally Posted By Medicfrost:
https://youtu.be/12Kyd2htJLc



The guy leaping out of the way of the oncoming semi tractor was good.

http://s3.postimg.org/xp0744po3/Capture.jpg

Very much so, especially when you review the recording and see the braking skid marks from said truck straddle the bike he was on. He is lucky. Observe how in the aftermath said truck is nowhere apparent. You would think he would stop.
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 1:36:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Powerkicker:
"Who's dog is that?" Can you sue a dog owner for that in the country?
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I hit a dog near my parents house in a rural part of Maryland. Took out my grill and headlight. The dog owner's homeowners insurance paid for my repairs.
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 1:37:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DeltaElite777:
Another reason why riding all bunched up in "packs" like that is dumb.  
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^This.

And these guys weren't speeding, stunting, etc.  Riding bunched up is foolish.
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 1:38:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By L_JE:

^This.

And these guys weren't speeding, stunting, etc.  Riding bunched up is foolish.
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Originally Posted By L_JE:
Originally Posted By DeltaElite777:
Another reason why riding all bunched up in "packs" like that is dumb.  

^This.

And these guys weren't speeding, stunting, etc.  Riding bunched up is foolish.


Hell, if I liked socializing, I wouldn't have bought a motorcycle in the first place.  
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 1:46:17 PM EDT
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Is that guy wearing a full face Lord of the Rings goblin battle helmet or what?

Looks like the breed of peace almost got two more
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 1:47:43 PM EDT
One of the many reasons that I don't ride anymore.   Too many reasons for you to go down.   Last summer a buddy of mine lent me one of his bikes.   We drove around the country for a little over an hour.   I spent at least 45 minutes of that ride looking for animals, cars, etc.   Only really enjoyed about 15 minutes of the ride.   Don't need to do that any time soon again.
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 2:23:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By KA3B:
Fucking owner of the dog needs to be beaten with his dead dog.
Pile of shit.
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lol, motorcycles are dangerous.
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 2:23:48 PM EDT
Bad deal but appears most of them seem I'll equipped to deal with a stressful situation. Clam the fuck down...
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 2:51:45 PM EDT
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Highway =/= Interstate

Looks like a highway to me.
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 2:54:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By James23:



Is that true?

Can you explain how your rear brake helps you here?
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Originally Posted By James23:
Originally Posted By SCvARminter:
Originally Posted By twckxbzd:
they both grabbed a shit ton of front brake and crashed.




Exactly. A LOT of people don't use their rear brakes properly because the front is so effective. Those rear brakes keep you from going over like these guys.



Is that true?

Can you explain how your rear brake helps you here?


Serious question?
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 2:59:10 PM EDT


Stupid dog should learn to use the crosswalk!

Who's dog is that!~!







Ain't they supposed to ride staggered for just this kinda reason?
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 2:59:26 PM EDT
another video from one of the motorcycles in the back



http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=96f_1460904727
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 3:00:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Powerkicker:


Is that guy wearing a full face Lord of the Rings goblin battle helmet or what?

Looks like the breed of peace almost got two more
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Originally Posted By Powerkicker:


Is that guy wearing a full face Lord of the Rings goblin battle helmet or what?

Looks like the breed of peace almost got two more


Icon Alliance, very nice helmet
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 3:00:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SOMT:


Serious question?
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Originally Posted By SOMT:
Originally Posted By James23:
Originally Posted By SCvARminter:
Originally Posted By twckxbzd:
they both grabbed a shit ton of front brake and crashed.




Exactly. A LOT of people don't use their rear brakes properly because the front is so effective. Those rear brakes keep you from going over like these guys.



Is that true?

Can you explain how your rear brake helps you here?


Serious question?



Very serious.

I assume your incredulity means you have a response. I'm listening if you do.
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 3:03:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By m00ler03:
another video from one of the motorcycles in the back

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=96f_1460904727
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I may have to retract what I said about them not speeding.

The guy on the supermoto who nearly got the worst of it looked to be going noticeably faster than the rest, and found out why braking on paint sucks.
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Originally Posted By m00ler03:
another video from one of the motorcycles in the back

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=96f_1460904727
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2nd guy's reflexes were pretty solid after his mary lou retton moment.
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 3:07:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By James23:



Very serious.

I assume your incredulity means you have a response. I'm listening if you do.
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Originally Posted By James23:
Originally Posted By SOMT:
Originally Posted By James23:
Originally Posted By SCvARminter:
Originally Posted By twckxbzd:
they both grabbed a shit ton of front brake and crashed.




Exactly. A LOT of people don't use their rear brakes properly because the front is so effective. Those rear brakes keep you from going over like these guys.



Is that true?

Can you explain how your rear brake helps you here?


Serious question?



Very serious.

I assume your incredulity means you have a response. I'm listening if you do.

A supermoto bike is very light, and the rider's mass is a greater part of the breaking dynamics.  You have to be more careful in balancing your braking to ensure the most effective stop possible than on a heavier bike.  And, max breaking on paint is a very bad idea.  This rider had a step change in friction coefficients going from paint to asphalt, and it caused an amazing high side.  This was a set up for failure.
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Originally Posted By Keib:


2nd guy's reflexes were pretty solid after his mary lou retton moment.
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Originally Posted By Keib:
Originally Posted By m00ler03:
another video from one of the motorcycles in the back

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=96f_1460904727


2nd guy's reflexes were pretty solid after his mary lou retton moment.



Astounding reflexes.
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Originally Posted By m00ler03:
another video from one of the motorcycles in the back

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I want to see that guy's helmet cam!

Link Posted: 4/18/2016 3:12:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By skytrooper01:


And don't give it back for 6 months

Good holster though.. stayed secure
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Originally Posted By kingoftheroad:
Originally Posted By Useafortyfive:
Originally Posted By alphabavo:
Wonder if the rider is a member. He's packing.

What's the procedure for when emt's come and he's packing?  How is his pistol secured?
Cops take it I think.
 


And don't give it back for 6 months

Good holster though.. stayed secure



Its a Fobus
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 3:18:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By James23:



Very serious.

I assume your incredulity means you have a response. I'm listening if you do.
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Originally Posted By James23:
Originally Posted By SOMT:
Originally Posted By James23:
Originally Posted By SCvARminter:
Originally Posted By twckxbzd:
they both grabbed a shit ton of front brake and crashed.




Exactly. A LOT of people don't use their rear brakes properly because the front is so effective. Those rear brakes keep you from going over like these guys.



Is that true?

Can you explain how your rear brake helps you here?


Serious question?



Very serious.

I assume your incredulity means you have a response. I'm listening if you do.


Just making sure I don't give a serious response to a comment meant as a joke. The front brake is a magnificent device, great stopping power. But on a motorcycle there a point at which you can apply too much front brake and this brings the rear wheel off the ground. When this happens a few things could go down; Flip over the handlebars similar to the video, loose control because the gyroscopic force of both wheels are now janky as hell, or you do a graceful "stoppie".

Applying the rear brake puts down force on the rear. You can also apply to much rear brake and slide. There's a finesse to stopping quickly to say the least.
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 3:22:26 PM EDT
any word on the dog?
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any word on the dog?
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"PIRELLI"
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Originally Posted By FuriousYachtsman:


I want to see that guy's helmet cam!

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Originally Posted By FuriousYachtsman:
Originally Posted By m00ler03:
another video from one of the motorcycles in the back

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=96f_1460904727


I want to see that guy's helmet cam!

https://j.gifs.com/J6KOWy.gif






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Originally Posted By DRich:


"PIRELLI"
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Originally Posted By DRich:
Originally Posted By coldair:
any word on the dog?


"PIRELLI"


More of a tread pattern, really.
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 3:32:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By kingoftheroad:
Cops take it I think.
 
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Originally Posted By Useafortyfive:
Originally Posted By alphabavo:
Wonder if the rider is a member. He's packing.

What's the procedure for when emt's come and he's packing?  How is his pistol secured?
Cops take it I think.
 


If I show up and you're definitely going to the hospital or on a helicopter ride, I'll take it off, safe direction and secure it (slide locked back or cylinder out, mag out) and turn it over to Sheriff/PD/HP (whoever is working the wreck).  If it's legal (guy with a permit, decent holster, clues to tell me it's legally carried) they usually tell me they have it and it's not a big deal, the thugs and dope dealers don't say anything, I find it and they either immediately get hooked up or get charges added.  In the latter case, it's not unusual to find dope, pipes, and or knots of cash along with it.  If you're wearing an ankle bracelet I'm taking your gun and you ain't getting it back, I don't care how many times you call me a white motherfucker.

If you're not injured or refuse service I cannot legally disarm you if youre permitted to carry unless you want in my truck.(I can disarm people who aren't supposed to be carrying, do it alot believe it or not).
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 3:32:51 PM EDT
R6 guy never had a chance, he couldn't avoid the dog.

Supermoto guy panic braked himself into a wreck, but it's impossible to know if he could have avoided crashing even if he hadn't.
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Originally Posted By L_JE:
The displaced anger towards the dog?  Yeah, whatever.
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Beta male fags.
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 3:34:30 PM EDT
Couple of years ago I was behind a motorcycle on the highway.  He ran over a coyote and stayed up.  I stopped to see if he was okay, he was and bike wasn't damaged.  However, he was freaking out..  shaking and such.  He had just gotten his motorcycle endorsement and was scared shitless.  We were both heading to the same town so we loaded his bike in the back of my truck.
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Originally Posted By fttam:
R6 guy never had a chance, he couldn't avoid the dog.

Supermoto guy panic braked himself into a wreck, but it's impossible to know if he could have avoided crashing even if he hadn't.
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If I was in that situation all I would've seen was my buddy and his bike laid out on the road in front of me. Run over your buddy, t-bone his bike or take a slide. I would've took the slide as well. That's why I have frame sliders.
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Originally Posted By MSUbulldog21:

If I was in that situation all I would've seen was my buddy and his bike laid out on the road in front of me. Run over your buddy, t-bone his bike or take a slide. I would've took the slide as well. That's why I have frame sliders.
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Originally Posted By MSUbulldog21:
Originally Posted By fttam:
R6 guy never had a chance, he couldn't avoid the dog.

Supermoto guy panic braked himself into a wreck, but it's impossible to know if he could have avoided crashing even if he hadn't.

If I was in that situation all I would've seen was my buddy and his bike laid out on the road in front of me. Run over your buddy, t-bone his bike or take a slide. I would've took the slide as well. That's why I have frame sliders.


There were no real good choices to take.
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Dude in the tractor was shitting his britches...
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Originally Posted By Bushamster21:


There were no real good choices to take.
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Originally Posted By Bushamster21:
Originally Posted By MSUbulldog21:
Originally Posted By fttam:
R6 guy never had a chance, he couldn't avoid the dog.

Supermoto guy panic braked himself into a wreck, but it's impossible to know if he could have avoided crashing even if he hadn't.

If I was in that situation all I would've seen was my buddy and his bike laid out on the road in front of me. Run over your buddy, t-bone his bike or take a slide. I would've took the slide as well. That's why I have frame sliders.


There were no real good choices to take.

True, lesser of two evils. I can critique the video till the cows come home but at the end of the day I am just glad it wasn't me and that no one was a speed bump for that semi.
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 3:44:11 PM EDT
Is it wrong that I think the most interesting part is the COE?
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Originally Posted By buck19delta:



yes. if your animal is in the road, and it causes a accident, your libel for it.  just as car driver is NOT libel for running over your animal.

i had a thread about running over my neighbors dog.

a arfcommer who is a insurance adjuster, said he had a client who hit a dog on a new harley, fucked the rider and passenger up really bad... dog owner comes out and is screaming about his dead dog... motorcycle rider had to call 911 on his own for a ambulance.

dog owner called insurance wanting them to buy him a new dog..... insurance adjuster ended up making home owners insurance buy new motorcycle, and pay medical injuries.
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Originally Posted By buck19delta:
Originally Posted By Powerkicker:
"Who's dog is that?" Can you sue a dog owner for that in the country?



yes. if your animal is in the road, and it causes a accident, your libel for it.  just as car driver is NOT libel for running over your animal.

i had a thread about running over my neighbors dog.

a arfcommer who is a insurance adjuster, said he had a client who hit a dog on a new harley, fucked the rider and passenger up really bad... dog owner comes out and is screaming about his dead dog... motorcycle rider had to call 911 on his own for a ambulance.

dog owner called insurance wanting them to buy him a new dog..... insurance adjuster ended up making home owners insurance buy new motorcycle, and pay medical injuries.


I love a happy ending
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Originally Posted By SOMT:


Just making sure I don't give a serious response to a comment meant as a joke. The front brake is a magnificent device, great stopping power. But on a motorcycle there a point at which you can apply too much front brake and this brings the rear wheel off the ground. When this happens a few things could go down; Flip over the handlebars similar to the video, loose control because the gyroscopic force of both wheels are now janky as hell, or you do a graceful "stoppie".

Applying the rear brake puts down force on the rear. You can also apply to much rear brake and slide. There's a finesse to stopping quickly to say the least.
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Originally Posted By SOMT:
Originally Posted By James23:
Originally Posted By SOMT:
Originally Posted By James23:
Originally Posted By SCvARminter:

Exactly. A LOT of people don't use their rear brakes properly because the front is so effective. Those rear brakes keep you from going over like these guys.



Is that true?

Can you explain how your rear brake helps you here?


Serious question?



Very serious.

I assume your incredulity means you have a response. I'm listening if you do.


Just making sure I don't give a serious response to a comment meant as a joke. The front brake is a magnificent device, great stopping power. But on a motorcycle there a point at which you can apply too much front brake and this brings the rear wheel off the ground. When this happens a few things could go down; Flip over the handlebars similar to the video, loose control because the gyroscopic force of both wheels are now janky as hell, or you do a graceful "stoppie".

Applying the rear brake puts down force on the rear. You can also apply to much rear brake and slide. There's a finesse to stopping quickly to say the least.



Here's the way it was explained to me, in a few different instances.

If you're putting enough into the front brake, the corresponding drastic change in weight distribution to the front, and the resulting significantly reduced weight on the rear means no significant braking or control from that tire.

The best you can do is quickly squeeze as much front brake as the conditions and your skill will allow.


This is a panic stop on public roads. Any rider in this situation will serve his interests best by forgetting about the rear brake and correctly
use as much front as you can.

Honestly, looking at the vid again, the rider that hit the dog was toast no matter what. No time to do much at all before impact.






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Originally Posted By tcrpe:


Front brake, uplift on rear wheel.

Rear brake, downthrust on front wheel.

Simple dymanics.
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Originally Posted By tcrpe:
Originally Posted By James23:
Originally Posted By SCvARminter:
Originally Posted By twckxbzd:
they both grabbed a shit ton of front brake and crashed.




Exactly. A LOT of people don't use their rear brakes properly because the front is so effective. Those rear brakes keep you from going over like these guys.



Is that true?

Can you explain how your rear brake helps you here?


Front brake, uplift on rear wheel.

Rear brake, downthrust on front wheel.

Simple dymanics.


Works on bicycles, too.
I used to practice panic stops by hitting my rear brake a lite quicker than my front.
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