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Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
The ARX-100 was included in this dirt test video... Kind of surprising what it beat. View Quote I like the part where the SCAR's gas regulator was kept in the suppressed setting with no suppressor attached. Because that's totally conducive to the action cycling in adverse conditions. |
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I wonder why MAC's results were so different.
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Originally Posted By Kalmar:
I like the part where the SCAR's gas regulator was kept in the suppressed setting with no suppressor attached. Because that's totally conducive to the action cycling in adverse conditions. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Kalmar:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
The ARX-100 was included in this dirt test video... Kind of surprising what it beat. I like the part where the SCAR's gas regulator was kept in the suppressed setting with no suppressor attached. Because that's totally conducive to the action cycling in adverse conditions. You're right. That could cause a problem. |
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Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=synlZgnTnXg The ARX-100 was included in this dirt test video... Kind of surprising what it beat. View Quote How did the bolt go into battery on the AR and not take a round with it? If the mag was seated properly wouldn't it either take a round or be a failure to chamber/jam? |
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Originally Posted By ARShooter91: How did the bolt go into battery on the AR and not take a round with it? If the mag was seated properly wouldn't it either take a round or be a failure to chamber/jam? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ARShooter91: Originally Posted By 556Cliff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=synlZgnTnXg The ARX-100 was included in this dirt test video... Kind of surprising what it beat. How did the bolt go into battery on the AR and not take a round with it? If the mag was seated properly wouldn't it either take a round or be a failure to chamber/jam? |
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Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
You're right. That could cause a problem. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By Kalmar:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
The ARX-100 was included in this dirt test video... Kind of surprising what it beat. I like the part where the SCAR's gas regulator was kept in the suppressed setting with no suppressor attached. Because that's totally conducive to the action cycling in adverse conditions. You're right. That could cause a problem. Quote from the video maker/owner of the SCAR in the video. "The SCAR has had the gas screw changed out so the 'suppressed' setting is enough to lock the bolt open on a empty mag, and then up two screw sizes. I keep the 'normal' setting for adverse conditions. But since I was failing rifles for failing once, it didn't seem fair to let the SCAR fail and then change the gas setting. I could have also put the ARX in adverse gas after it failed, but didn't either." |
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Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Quote from the video maker/owner of the SCAR in the video. "The SCAR has had the gas screw changed out so the 'suppressed' setting is enough to lock the bolt open on a empty mag, and then up two screw sizes. I keep the 'normal' setting for adverse conditions. But since I was failing rifles for failing once, it didn't seem fair to let the SCAR fail and then change the gas setting. I could have also put the ARX in adverse gas after it failed, but didn't either." View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By Kalmar:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
The ARX-100 was included in this dirt test video... Kind of surprising what it beat. I like the part where the SCAR's gas regulator was kept in the suppressed setting with no suppressor attached. Because that's totally conducive to the action cycling in adverse conditions. You're right. That could cause a problem. Quote from the video maker/owner of the SCAR in the video. "The SCAR has had the gas screw changed out so the 'suppressed' setting is enough to lock the bolt open on a empty mag, and then up two screw sizes. I keep the 'normal' setting for adverse conditions. But since I was failing rifles for failing once, it didn't seem fair to let the SCAR fail and then change the gas setting. I could have also put the ARX in adverse gas after it failed, but didn't either." So the ARX still managed to go 31 rds in S setting. Not bad. Prob both SCAR & ARX would've gone much further if their full functionality was utilized. Not sure why they weren't allowed to run within their functional design envelope. |
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Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:
So the ARX still.managed to go 31 rds in S setting. Not bad. Prob both SCAR & ARX would've gone much further if their full functionality was utilized. Not sure why they weren't allowed to run within their functional design envelope. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By Kalmar:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
The ARX-100 was included in this dirt test video... Kind of surprising what it beat. I like the part where the SCAR's gas regulator was kept in the suppressed setting with no suppressor attached. Because that's totally conducive to the action cycling in adverse conditions. You're right. That could cause a problem. Quote from the video maker/owner of the SCAR in the video. "The SCAR has had the gas screw changed out so the 'suppressed' setting is enough to lock the bolt open on a empty mag, and then up two screw sizes. I keep the 'normal' setting for adverse conditions. But since I was failing rifles for failing once, it didn't seem fair to let the SCAR fail and then change the gas setting. I could have also put the ARX in adverse gas after it failed, but didn't either." So the ARX still.managed to go 31 rds in S setting. Not bad. Prob both SCAR & ARX would've gone much further if their full functionality was utilized. Not sure why they weren't allowed to run within their functional design envelope. I'm not so sure that the ARX would have done any better with the gas selector set on the low power ammunition setting because the reason that the ARX failed was because the firing pin seized in the bolt. |
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So what's everybody's favorite kind of optic to through on this bad boy.
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Originally Posted By 556Cliff: Quote from the video maker/owner of the SCAR in the video. "The SCAR has had the gas screw changed out so the 'suppressed' setting is enough to lock the bolt open on a empty mag, and then up two screw sizes. I keep the 'normal' setting for adverse conditions. But since I was failing rifles for failing once, it didn't seem fair to let the SCAR fail and then change the gas setting. I could have also put the ARX in adverse gas after it failed, but didn't either." View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 556Cliff: Originally Posted By 556Cliff: Originally Posted By Kalmar: Originally Posted By 556Cliff: The ARX-100 was included in this dirt test video... Kind of surprising what it beat. I like the part where the SCAR's gas regulator was kept in the suppressed setting with no suppressor attached. Because that's totally conducive to the action cycling in adverse conditions. You're right. That could cause a problem. Quote from the video maker/owner of the SCAR in the video. "The SCAR has had the gas screw changed out so the 'suppressed' setting is enough to lock the bolt open on a empty mag, and then up two screw sizes. I keep the 'normal' setting for adverse conditions. But since I was failing rifles for failing once, it didn't seem fair to let the SCAR fail and then change the gas setting. I could have also put the ARX in adverse gas after it failed, but didn't either." Also, most polymer mags partially engage the bolt catch in the SCAR which can cause damage and additional friction. I'm not sure if he modded the mags but he really should have tested the SCAR with GI mags as it was designed solely around them. |
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Now she's making $15 an hour as a 'tard wrangler with a degree in women's studies... - tommytrauma
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Here is the thread where the video was first posted. > Link.
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Originally Posted By ak47Dennis:
Did anyone see this, Got an email from there web sight saying they are available. http://www.berettausa.com/en-us/arx100-10-25-in-barrel-kit-barrel-kit/jxc111/ Seems odd they have them listed under kits & parts and not barrels View Quote Something fishy going on with those pics. The first pic (with the case and magazine) shows a barrel with the flash hider right up against the gas block. The third picture shows a barrel with the 1-inch "choad". My ARX barrel looks like the first picture but it it well under 10" long by ATF-style measurement. I think you will get a barrel like pic #3 if you buy the factory 10.25" Beretta barrel. The Botach site is also fishy. The pictured barrel is a 12.5" military barrel for use with the 15-slot handguards. And the pictured rifles are photoshopped but show the flash hider right against the gas block, which is again impossible for a 10.25" barrel on a production ARX. |
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Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
I'm not so sure that the ARX would have done any better with the gas selector set on the low power ammunition setting because the reason that the ARX failed was because the firing pin seized in the bolt. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By Kalmar:
I like the part where the SCAR's gas regulator was kept in the suppressed setting with no suppressor attached. Because that's totally conducive to the action cycling in adverse conditions. You're right. That could cause a problem. Quote from the video maker/owner of the SCAR in the video. "The SCAR has had the gas screw changed out so the 'suppressed' setting is enough to lock the bolt open on a empty mag, and then up two screw sizes. I keep the 'normal' setting for adverse conditions. But since I was failing rifles for failing once, it didn't seem fair to let the SCAR fail and then change the gas setting. I could have also put the ARX in adverse gas after it failed, but didn't either." So the ARX still.managed to go 31 rds in S setting. Not bad. Prob both SCAR & ARX would've gone much further if their full functionality was utilized. Not sure why they weren't allowed to run within their functional design envelope. I'm not so sure that the ARX would have done any better with the gas selector set on the low power ammunition setting because the reason that the ARX failed was because the firing pin seized in the bolt. The ARX, as tested in the vid, was run in the low power (S) setting, not adverse (N). |
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Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:
The ARX, as tested in the vid, was run in the low power (S) setting, not adverse (N). View Quote Yes, I know it was not set on the (N) setting in the video, I just call the (N) setting the low power ammunition setting. I realize that the (N) setting allows more gas through to run the system on weak low powered ammo. I guess the (N) setting could also be called the adverse setting. |
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Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Yes, I know it was not set on the (N) setting in the video, I just call the (N) setting the low power ammunition setting. I realize that the (N) setting allows more gas through to run the system on weak low powered ammo. I guess the (N) setting could also be called the adverse setting. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:
The ARX, as tested in the vid, was run in the low power (S) setting, not adverse (N). Yes, I know it was not set on the (N) setting in the video, I just call the (N) setting the low power ammunition setting. I realize that the (N) setting allows more gas through to run the system on weak low powered ammo. I guess the (N) setting could also be called the adverse setting. N could work for both situations. |
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Delete - duplicate post.
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Anymore news out there or user reviews
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Got one last week, unfired. I plan on shooting her this weekend. So far, I like it. |
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Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
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Had mine to the range last weekend. Let my neighbor play with it mostly. Runs great. Easy hits on small steel at 100 with MBUS Pro (not so easy with bad eyes and a 9" barrel!)
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View Quote Looks awesome. Hope we get a S/A version. |
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Originally Posted By Frens:
cool the new arx200 just showed up at DSEI 2015 in London according to the article on a Italian gun magazine: - mags are proprietary but an adapter for KAC mags is available - aluminum upper - non reversible ejection - barrel now fixed with a bolt http://www.armietiro.it/moduli/articoli/attachments/6/9/1/5/arx-200-debutta-a-londra_1.jpg_650.jpg View Quote Cue bitching about it not taking Magpuls... |
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Originally Posted By vellnueve:
Cue bitching about it not taking Magpuls... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By vellnueve:
Originally Posted By Frens:
cool the new arx200 just showed up at DSEI 2015 in London according to the article on a Italian gun magazine: - mags are proprietary but an adapter for KAC mags is available - aluminum upper - non reversible ejection - barrel now fixed with a bolt http://www.armietiro.it/moduli/articoli/attachments/6/9/1/5/arx-200-debutta-a-londra_1.jpg_650.jpg Cue bitching about it not taking Magpuls... With the adapter it will take kac and magpul mags |
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Originally Posted By fivepointoh:
I'm gonna go with needing a VERY effective muzzle brake on that thing as I'm assuming it's pretty light. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By fivepointoh:
4.5 kg/9.91 lbs. SCAR 17 is 8 lbs. |
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Originally Posted By Master_Blaster: 4.5 kg/9.91 lbs. SCAR 17 is 8 lbs. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Master_Blaster: Originally Posted By fivepointoh: 4.5 kg/9.91 lbs. SCAR 17 is 8 lbs. |
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Originally Posted By vellnueve: Cue bitching about it not taking Magpuls... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By vellnueve: Originally Posted By Frens: cool the new arx200 just showed up at DSEI 2015 in London according to the article on a Italian gun magazine: - mags are proprietary but an adapter for KAC mags is available - aluminum upper - non reversible ejection - barrel now fixed with a bolt http://www.armietiro.it/moduli/articoli/attachments/6/9/1/5/arx-200-debutta-a-londra_1.jpg_650.jpg Cue bitching about it not taking Magpuls... |
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Originally Posted By fivepointoh:
Heavier than I expected... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By fivepointoh:
Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:
Originally Posted By fivepointoh:
4.5 kg/9.91 lbs. SCAR 17 is 8 lbs. Ditto. The bbl. looks like med or heavy contour, so that might explain some of the extra heft. Even uses plastic in the upper receiver, so I'm not sure what the deal is. I'm sure we'll learn more in time. |
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Originally Posted By fivepointoh:
If it takes KAC mags (with the adapter) won't it take SR25 PMAGS? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By fivepointoh:
Originally Posted By vellnueve:
Originally Posted By Frens:
cool the new arx200 just showed up at DSEI 2015 in London according to the article on a Italian gun magazine: - mags are proprietary but an adapter for KAC mags is available - aluminum upper - non reversible ejection - barrel now fixed with a bolt http://www.armietiro.it/moduli/articoli/attachments/6/9/1/5/arx-200-debutta-a-londra_1.jpg_650.jpg Cue bitching about it not taking Magpuls... Maybe... But look at the other models of Pmags - Gen3s don't fit several rifles. |
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For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.
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I Would just like the buttstock
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Originally Posted By Master_Blaster: Ditto. The bbl. looks like med or heavy contour, so that might explain some of the extra heft. Even uses plastic in the upper receiver, so I'm not sure what the deal is. I'm sure we'll learn more in time. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Master_Blaster: Originally Posted By fivepointoh: Originally Posted By Master_Blaster: Originally Posted By fivepointoh: 4.5 kg/9.91 lbs. SCAR 17 is 8 lbs. Ditto. The bbl. looks like med or heavy contour, so that might explain some of the extra heft. Even uses plastic in the upper receiver, so I'm not sure what the deal is. I'm sure we'll learn more in time. |
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Well the colt 901 is 8.4lbs, the hk 417 is 8.6lbs and the Lmt Mws is 9+ lbs...
It's a 308 afterall |
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Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
SCAR 17 wins the weight battle. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By Frens:
Well the colt 901 is 8.4lbs, the hk 417 is 8.6lbs and the Lmt Mws is 9+ lbs... It's a 308 afterall SCAR 17 wins the weight battle. Would be interesting to see how much the -200 would weigh with a similar profile bbl. |
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An ARX without most of the good features of the ARX? (Swap eject, light weight, extensive polymer, etc).
Pass. With those features there is absolutely no reason to choose it over a SCAR or AR-10 platform. |
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What if you don't want your scope destroyed over time?
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Originally Posted By Conqueror:
Pass. With those features there is absolutely no reason to choose it over a SCAR or AR-10 platform. View Quote And vice versa Thats another option on the market which is a good thing IMO I would also add that some of the ARX160 features are just cool from a technical point of view and not really needed. |
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Not sure I agree with the vice versa part. If the -200 has basically the same feature set as an AR-10 but weighs 1.5lb more, that's actively worse option.
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Originally Posted By Conqueror:
Not sure I agree with the vice versa part. If the -200 has basically the same feature set as an AR-10 but weighs 1.5lb more, that's actively worse option. View Quote Yeah, I'm hoping the bbl profile is the where the girth comes from, because it weighs nearly as much as an (all-steel) FAL with 20" bbl. Definitely waiting for more info. |
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Originally Posted By vellnueve:
Beretta has to sell direct at MSRP, they cannot undercut their dealers. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By vellnueve:
Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:
Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:
Originally Posted By ak47Dennis:
Did anyone see this, Got an email from there web sight saying they are available. http://www.berettausa.com/en-us/arx100-10-25-in-barrel-kit-barrel-kit/jxc111/ Seems odd they have them listed under kits & parts and not barrels Comes in a case with mag, looks like a kit to me. Neat that it comes with a case. Looks like it would be big enough to fit the rifle in with the short barrel. But damn near $600 for a barrel? That's half the price that the gun sells for these days. For maybe $400, I'd get the barrel. That still makes it a $600 SBR project. High prices are hurting this rifle. I bet they'd sell a shit-ton if they were available for right around $1k. Beretta has to sell direct at MSRP, they cannot undercut their dealers. If you sign up for Beretta's news letter or whatever they will give you a code to use for 15% off their e-store. That brings the barrel/kit down to $508.70 shipped to my location. IMHO that's not too bad for what you're getting. |
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Have any of you 1. Cerakoted your ARX? Thinking of FDE - Tired of waiting 2. Changed the BUIS, thinking of the magpul micros I have them on my 10.5 AR & like them. 3. Any sources for the ARX160 flash hider? Considering cutting the 16" barrel down to 16" with flash hider, would much rather the 10" but i travel... 4. Has anyone sanded off the A2 "finger bump" ? 5. It would be awesome if someone like Noveske/ Pac Nor would make a sub moa barrel. |
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Originally Posted By ak47Dennis:
Have any of you 1. Cerakoted your ARX? Thinking of FDE - Tired of waiting 2. Changed the BUIS, thinking of the magpul micros I have them on my 10.5 AR & like them. 3. Any sources for the ARX160 flash hider? Considering cutting the 16" barrel down to 16" with flash hider, would much rather the 10" but i travel... 4. Has anyone sanded off the A2 "finger bump" ? 5. It would be awesome if someone like Noveske/ Pac Nor would make a sub moa barrel. View Quote 1. nope, I've thought about it, but I'm fine with black 2. Nope, not yet. I'm thinking about getting the MagPul angled flip-up BUIS, because I want to get a 1-4x scope to put on it, and BUIS probably won't work very well in-line with a scope. 3. Haven't looked. I'm fine with the A2 flash hider. 4. I have seen a guy on the Beretta Forum ground his off. I want to do that myself. It's solid under the bump, so you can grind it down to flush with the grip. There won't be a hole or anything there. 5. Accuracy is probably more hindered by the heavy trigger. I haven't shot mine for accuracy yet, but MAC's reviews show about 2MOA (IIRC), which is perfectly fine for a battle rifle, and he comments that with a better trigger, he thinks it may get closer to 1MOA. There's a carbine match this coming Sunday. I'm going to try to go shoot in it if my allergies aren't driving me TOO damn nuts. I'll be shooting the ARX in it. I'm sure I'll have 0 problems with the rifle... and I'll probably be the only one out there with one! |
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Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:
Make sure you post an aar. I really wanna get one of these and put a 1-4 on it so any info would help 1. nope, I've thought about it, but I'm fine with black 2. Nope, not yet. I'm thinking about getting the MagPul angled flip-up BUIS, because I want to get a 1-4x scope to put on it, and BUIS probably won't work very well in-line with a scope. 3. Haven't looked. I'm fine with the A2 flash hider. 4. I have seen a guy on the Beretta Forum ground his off. I want to do that myself. It's solid under the bump, so you can grind it down to flush with the grip. There won't be a hole or anything there. 5. Accuracy is probably more hindered by the heavy trigger. I haven't shot mine for accuracy yet, but MAC's reviews show about 2MOA (IIRC), which is perfectly fine for a battle rifle, and he comments that with a better trigger, he thinks it may get closer to 1MOA. There's a carbine match this coming Sunday. I'm going to try to go shoot in it if my allergies aren't driving me TOO damn nuts. I'll be shooting the ARX in it. I'm sure I'll have 0 problems with the rifle... and I'll probably be the only one out there with one! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:
Originally Posted By ak47Dennis:
Have any of you 1. Cerakoted your ARX? Thinking of FDE - Tired of waiting 2. Changed the BUIS, thinking of the magpul micros I have them on my 10.5 AR & like them. 3. Any sources for the ARX160 flash hider? Considering cutting the 16" barrel down to 16" with flash hider, would much rather the 10" but i travel... 4. Has anyone sanded off the A2 "finger bump" ? 5. It would be awesome if someone like Noveske/ Pac Nor would make a sub moa barrel. Make sure you post an aar. I really wanna get one of these and put a 1-4 on it so any info would help 1. nope, I've thought about it, but I'm fine with black 2. Nope, not yet. I'm thinking about getting the MagPul angled flip-up BUIS, because I want to get a 1-4x scope to put on it, and BUIS probably won't work very well in-line with a scope. 3. Haven't looked. I'm fine with the A2 flash hider. 4. I have seen a guy on the Beretta Forum ground his off. I want to do that myself. It's solid under the bump, so you can grind it down to flush with the grip. There won't be a hole or anything there. 5. Accuracy is probably more hindered by the heavy trigger. I haven't shot mine for accuracy yet, but MAC's reviews show about 2MOA (IIRC), which is perfectly fine for a battle rifle, and he comments that with a better trigger, he thinks it may get closer to 1MOA. There's a carbine match this coming Sunday. I'm going to try to go shoot in it if my allergies aren't driving me TOO damn nuts. I'll be shooting the ARX in it. I'm sure I'll have 0 problems with the rifle... and I'll probably be the only one out there with one! |
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Originally Posted By ak47Dennis:
Have any of you 1. Cerakoted your ARX? Thinking of FDE - Tired of waiting 2. Changed the BUIS, thinking of the magpul micros I have them on my 10.5 AR & like them. 3. Any sources for the ARX160 flash hider? Considering cutting the 16" barrel down to 16" with flash hider, would much rather the 10" but i travel... 4. Has anyone sanded off the A2 "finger bump" ? 5. It would be awesome if someone like Noveske/ Pac Nor would make a sub moa barrel. View Quote 4. Go to page 40-41 of this thread and you can see that I ground the hump off and shortened the side rails a little bit as well. |
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Another thing I was wondering with that really thin barrel behind the flash hider can you even cut the barrel down and perm and weld with a flash hider that fits? I was just thinking that the barrel would be to thin for a flashhider to be able to screw on.
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Originally Posted By sunnybean: 4. Go to page 40-41 of this thread and you can see that I ground the hump off and shortened the side rails a little bit as well. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By sunnybean: Originally Posted By ak47Dennis: Have any of you 1. Cerakoted your ARX? Thinking of FDE - Tired of waiting 2. Changed the BUIS, thinking of the magpul micros I have them on my 10.5 AR & like them. 3. Any sources for the ARX160 flash hider? Considering cutting the 16" barrel down to 16" with flash hider, would much rather the 10" but i travel... 4. Has anyone sanded off the A2 "finger bump" ? 5. It would be awesome if someone like Noveske/ Pac Nor would make a sub moa barrel. 4. Go to page 40-41 of this thread and you can see that I ground the hump off and shortened the side rails a little bit as well. |
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Originally Posted By whopete89: Another thing I was wondering with that really thin barrel behind the flash hider can you even cut the barrel down and perm and weld with a flash hider that fits? I was just thinking that the barrel would be to thin for a flashhider to be able to screw on. View Quote |
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