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WY, USA
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Posted: 6/17/2012 6:31:24 PM EDT
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Well I didnt do any load work, just seated a Wolf Small Rifle magnum primer, dumped 26.0gr of Reloader 7 in my neck sized nosler cases, and seated a 75gr V-max to 2.395". We are getting 35+ MPH winds today so I didnt bother trying to shoot groups, the wife and I just went for a ride out in the desert looking for small things to blow up.
This jackrabbit ran out from some sage brush when we drove by, dumb thing stopped about 25 yards from the truck facing away I shot him in the back and it exited..... well lets just say the little 75gr V-max cut him in half....it was raining jack rabbit chunks for a few seconds after the shot. 
I found the only p-dog foolish enough to try and stand in this wind and hit him at about 60 yards. 
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FL, USA
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Posted: 6/17/2012 7:57:22 PM EDT
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So much for Rabbit Stew.
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WY, USA
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Posted: 6/19/2012 7:14:22 PM EDT
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Midway is having a blem sale right now. 75gr HP's are about $15 per 100.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 6/19/2012 8:09:18 PM EDT
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Anybody ever try the 117 gr round nose bullet ??
That should be a sledgehammer on hogs out to about 150-200 yards if it will feed. |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 6/19/2012 8:25:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By tammons:
Anybody ever try the 117 gr round nose bullet ?? That should be a sledgehammer on hogs out to about 150-200 yards if it will feed. Yes I did and yes it will feed. I was getting about 2440 fps. I posted the results. I will look back through and see if I can find the results. I also shot some Sierra 117 BT last weekend. I will post the results after dinner. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 6/19/2012 8:43:48 PM EDT
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Think I will pick up some 117 gr RN bullets. Should be great at CQ.
If you dont mind, please send me your loads or a link to the page. Thanks |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 6/19/2012 9:14:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 320pf]
[#7]
Originally Posted By 320pf:
I had a chance to pick up some Horn. 117 Round Nose bullets. I had mentioned this before and there was some concern that the round nose bullets might not feed in the AR. Well I tried them in 5 round mag and a 30 round p-mag. They all fed fine with not jams. Here are the results that I have so far. IMR 8208 (16-inch 1:10 barrel) Load____Vel (fps) 23.5gr___2200 24.0gr___2259 24.5gr___2310 25.0gr___2331 Hodgdon BenchMark (16-inch 1:10 barrel) Load____Vel (fps) 23.5gr___2214 24.0gr___2222 24.5gr___2339 This matches the ballistics of the old 25 -35 with a 20-inch barrel. Put this load in a 20-inch barrel you should get 2400fps. This looks like a good eastern woods or hog load. Here is my most recent load data using A2200. It seems like A2200 is the go to powder for this round. Horn. 117 Round Nose bullets A2200 (16-inch 1:10 barrel) Load____Vel (fps) 22.0gr___2256 22.5gr___2298 23.0gr___2339 23.5gr___2389 Max Load 24.0gr___2442 May be Over Max for some barrels. I will try and test some H335 this weekend. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 6/19/2012 9:31:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tammons]
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What COL ??
Doubt you will do any better than 2440 FPS with H335 but it might be worth a try. Thats a good number out of a 16" bbl. |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 6/19/2012 9:54:41 PM EDT
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My case gauge indicates that a COL of 2.209" is just touching the lands. So a set back of ~ 0.010-0.015" off the lands gives a COL of around 1.186 to 2.199. I do not remember if you bought a case gauge with your barrel. If you did you should confirm the COL.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 6/19/2012 10:11:35 PM EDT
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Yep, I got a gage and glad I did.
20" bbl should put me at 2520 or so. |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 6/19/2012 10:17:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 320pf]
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Originally Posted By tammons:
Think I will pick up some 117 gr RN bullets. Should be great at CQ. If you dont mind, please send me your loads or a link to the page. Thanks You might also want to try the Sierra 117 BT GameKings. They will fly better then the Hornaday 117 RN. Sierra 117 BT GameKings A2200 (16-inch 1:10 barrel) COL 2.265" Load____Vel (fps) 22.5gr___2270 23.0gr___2320 Max Load 23.5gr___2423 Over Max Load Sierra 117 BT GameKings H335 (16-inch 1:10 barrel) COL 2.265" Load____Vel (fps) 22.5gr___2125 23.0gr___2130 23.5gr___2160 24.0gr___2235 24.5gr___2260 25.0gr___2318 25.5gr___2330 Max Load
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FL, USA
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Posted: 6/19/2012 11:56:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tammons]
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Think my main bullets will be 80 gr TTSX, 115 gr bergers and 117 gr RN.
Not a varmint hunter so I want a heavy hitter. Want the RN for the woods and as a heavy hitter mostly and they are cheap. GK are good bullets too though. One of my favorites in other calibers. |
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WY, USA
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Posted: 6/20/2012 1:49:58 AM EDT
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Promo codes work with the blem sale also. I just ordered $100+ worth of bullets put in the promo code from,
http://deallocker.com/coupon/midwayusa.com/ |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 6/20/2012 7:35:53 AM EDT
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dk223 pm sent
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USA
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Posted: 6/20/2012 9:29:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 320pf:
Originally Posted By 320pf:
I had a chance to pick up some Horn. 117 Round Nose bullets. I had mentioned this before and there was some concern that the round nose bullets might not feed in the AR. Well I tried them in 5 round mag and a 30 round p-mag. They all fed fine with not jams. Here are the results that I have so far. IMR 8208 (16-inch 1:10 barrel) Load____Vel (fps) 23.5gr___2200 24.0gr___2259 24.5gr___2310 25.0gr___2331 Hodgdon BenchMark (16-inch 1:10 barrel) Load____Vel (fps) 23.5gr___2214 24.0gr___2222 24.5gr___2339 This matches the ballistics of the old 25 -35 with a 20-inch barrel. Put this load in a 20-inch barrel you should get 2400fps. This looks like a good eastern woods or hog load. Here is my most recent load data using A2200. It seems like A2200 is the go to powder for this round. A2200 (16-inch 1:10 barrel) Load____Vel (fps) 22.0gr___2256 22.5gr___2298 23.0gr___2339 23.5gr___2389 Max Load 24.0gr___2442 May be Over Max for some barrels. I will try and test some H335 this weekend. Those numbers look good w/ AA2200 powder, should work even better (hopefully) with the 6.5mm PCC wildcat round...Thanks for posting those results with AA2200 powder....Good Work. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 6/20/2012 4:44:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By dk223:
Midway is having a blem sale right now. 75gr HP's are about $15 per 100. Placed order already, they should be here tomorrow. |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 6/24/2012 10:13:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 320pf]
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I had a chance to finish working up the 110 gn Nosler Accubonds. AA220 still seems to be the best powder for the heavier bullets.
Nosler Accubond 110g BTSP (16-inch 1:10 barrel C.O.L= 2.26) A2200 Load g––- velocity fps 23.5––––––-2381 ±17 24.5––––––-2422 ±11 MAX LOAD 24.5––––––-2458 ±10 Over MAX H335 Load g––- velocity fps 23.0––––––-2147 ±38 23.5––––––-2163 ±13 24.5––––––-2273 ±10 24.5––––––-2269 ±3 FULL CASE W748 Load g––- velocity fps 23.5––––––-2042 ±7 24.0––––––-2060 ±30 24.5––––––-2106 ±3 FULL CASE
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NJ, USA
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Posted: 6/25/2012 12:24:16 PM EDT
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That would be a perfect deer load for sure Brent
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NY, USA
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Posted: 6/25/2012 12:28:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 320pf]
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Originally Posted By scatterbrains:
That would be a perfect deer load for sure Brent I think that it would work well on hogs as also. |
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Posted: 6/25/2012 12:54:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 320pf:
Originally Posted By scatterbrains:
That would be a perfect deer load for sure Brent I think that it would work well on hogs as also. If only someone made a lighter bonded bullet in .257. The 80gr TTSX is the next best thing but I'd like something bonded in the 90-100gr range. |
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NJ, USA
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Posted: 6/25/2012 11:07:57 PM EDT
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I think the nosler partition would be an excellent choice in 100gr also
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NY, USA
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Posted: 6/25/2012 11:51:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 320pf]
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Originally Posted By scatterbrains:
I think the nosler partition would be an excellent choice in 100gr also I also had a chance to try the 100 gn Nosler this weekend as well. I would think that the 100 gn Nosler Part. fits the bill and a premium "bonded" bullet. 100 gn Nosler Partition A2200 16-inch barrel C.O.L 2.26 Load g––- velocity fps 24.3––––––-2547 ±3 24.5––––––-2587 ±12 MAX LOAD or Very Near MAX LOAD 24.8––––––-2622 ±3 MAX LOAD or Slightly over MAX LOAD 25.0––––––-2638 ±10 Over MAX 100 gn Nosler Partition Ballistics @2600 fps COL=2.26" X-wind 10.0 mph at 90.0 deg |
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Posted: 6/26/2012 12:28:13 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By scatterbrains:
I think the nosler partition would be an excellent choice in 100gr also Yup. I got them up to 2750 fps out my 20". |
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WY, USA
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Posted: 6/28/2012 1:11:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: dk223]
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Found more 257 bullets on sale/blems 85gr Nosler Ballistics $18 per 100 they have flat rate shipping for $12 though
http://shootersproshop.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=71_101&product_id=63 RMR has 120gr Federal Fusions also, not sure how they would work out in a 25-223 but I bought 500 of them, bought them mainly for my 25-06 but might try them in my bolt 25-223 http://www.shop.rmrbullets.com/category.sc;jsessionid=406CC57A3E87879BEBB00821E88E5CEB.qscstrfrnt03?categoryId=23 |
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NJ, USA
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Posted: 6/28/2012 9:53:52 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By dk223:
Found more 257 bullets on sale/blems 85gr Nosler Ballistics $18 per 100 they have flat rate shipping for $12 though http://shootersproshop.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=71_101&product_id=63 RMR has 120gr Federal Fusions also, not sure how they would work out in a 25-223 but I bought 500 of them, bought them mainly for my 25-06 but might try them in my bolt 25-223 http://www.shop.rmrbullets.com/product.sc?productId=116 Nice just grabbed up 300 
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FL, USA
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Posted: 6/28/2012 10:50:12 AM EDT
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In a bolt gun you should be able to get 2500 FPS with the 120 grainers.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 6/28/2012 1:10:11 PM EDT
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FYI
Midwayusa has C Products defense 223 mags in stock, 10 and 30 rounders. $12.50 for the 10 round mag. |
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NJ, USA
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Posted: 6/29/2012 10:48:27 PM EDT
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So figure id do a little "long term" update LOL.
I know some of you guys got more rounds through than i do but i figured id share. I am up to 800rnds through the gun now.i am up to 4 loadings on the same 200 pieces of brass. Found 5 split necks tonight so looks like ill stick to 3 loadings hell its 223 brass its cheap 
I have been very happy with the rifles performance and am fine tuning it even more. I have settled on 2 loads now 85gr nosler ballistic tip 2.250" OAL cci41 primers, over 26.3gr of H335, velocity is @ 2765fps avg.––-This is my go to groundhog load––- Next load is 75gr Hornady HP 2.240" OAL cci41 primers over 27gr of H335 velocity is @ 2830fps––-havent tried on groundhogs yet but its proved very accurate––- Now to a stupid story 
Figured id be slick and order a redding comp seater stem to stick on my ch4d die...not so much  so i have a nice seating stem and no die to use it in.
So anybody got a clue i i could use a 223 seater for the 25-223? i was thinking a 25 wssm seating die may work. What do you guys think? |
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Posted: 6/29/2012 10:58:14 PM EDT
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I don't know if this answers the question, but I've found that a regular .223 seating die works fine with the .25-223. I have a couple RCBS seaters set up for different bullets and they work great - and they don't mash the poly tips of TTSX and VMAX bullets like my CH4D seater does.
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Posted: 6/30/2012 12:38:14 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By wombat25:
I don't know if this answers the question, but I've found that a regular .223 seating die works fine with the .25-223. I have a couple RCBS seaters set up for different bullets and they work great - and they don't mash the poly tips of TTSX and VMAX bullets like my CH4D seater does. I have the same issue with the CH4D dies. I never thought about using a .223 seating die, I may have to try that. I was thinking about drilling out the recess in the seating die to make room for the poly tips but I'm concerned I may screw up the surface for the ogive. |
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WY, USA
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Posted: 6/30/2012 12:49:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: dk223]
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I drilled out my CH4D seating stem....no issues with screwing up the ogive. Contact area is very small.
Loading up some 85s and 90s that scatterbrain sent me right now, testing tomorrow AM with the bolt gun stay tuned for results. |
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NJ, USA
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Posted: 6/30/2012 2:01:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: scatterbrains]
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sweet redding 223 seating die will be ordered come payday now i wont have to readjust my damn die every time i switch bullets.
So are you guys crimping your hunting rounds? Ive been playing with some things lately and crimp no crimp is my next "testing" phase. Then onto seating depth. Cant wait for your results Dk that 85 is going to rip in the bolt gun 
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FL, USA
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Posted: 6/30/2012 2:07:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: tammons]
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I have been trying to sell a set of 25 WSSM dies for probably 4 years off and on.
Didnt happen but good thing I kept them. If you dont want to crimp or dont have a too pointy bullet with the 25-223 a 223 seater will work but no crimp. Did not work so well with the 115 gr Berger, (pointy bullet) so I broke out the 25 WSSM dies and the seater works well. Now I just have the WSSM Sizer for sale - LOL |
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NJ, USA
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Posted: 6/30/2012 2:11:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: scatterbrains]
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Well the comp seating stem i bought is for a 257 roberts die so if it doesent fit a 223 die i know who may want it
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NY, USA
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Posted: 6/30/2012 6:24:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By scatterbrains:
So figure id do a little "long term" update LOL. I know some of you guys got more rounds through than i do but i figured id share. I am up to 800rnds through the gun now.i am up to 4 loadings on the same 200 pieces of brass. Found 5 split necks tonight so looks like ill stick to 3 loadings hell its 223 brass its cheap
This is good news. If I remember correctly, you are using the Redding Neck-Bushing die. Am I correct? I have a couple few more questions for you. Were you on reloading number 5 when you found the 5 split necks? How are the primer pockets hiding up? If you were on reloading number 5 on that batch of brass, then that would indicate that your pressures are within the working range of the parent 223/5.56 case. If the primer pockets are still tight then I would consider annealing the necks. Moreover, if you are getting five or more reloads from that batch of brass, that would suggest that you might have a bit be able to push the 85 gn Nosler a bit more. If the accuracy is good however, you might just want to leave it alone. |
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NJ, USA
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Posted: 6/30/2012 1:54:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 320pf:
Originally Posted By scatterbrains:
So figure id do a little "long term" update LOL. I know some of you guys got more rounds through than i do but i figured id share. I am up to 800rnds through the gun now.i am up to 4 loadings on the same 200 pieces of brass. Found 5 split necks tonight so looks like ill stick to 3 loadings hell its 223 brass its cheap
This is good news. If I remember correctly, you are using the Redding Neck-Bushing die. Am I correct?Yup works fantastic I have a couple few more questions for you. Were you on reloading number 5 when you found the 5 split necks? number 4 How are the primer pockets holding up?they are fine so far some of the FC brass has had a bit sloppy pocket but the brass is pretty shitty to begin with If you were on reloading number 5 on that batch of brass, then that would indicate that your pressures are within the working range of the parent 223/5.56 case. If the primer pockets are still tight then I would consider annealing the necks.honestly brass is so cheap/plentiful its not worth it to me Moreover, if you are getting five or more reloads from that batch of brass, that would suggest that you might have a bit be able to push the 85 gn Nosler a bit more. with H335 and mag length i am at compressed charges around 27.3gr so i've made my MAX 27gr If the accuracy is good however, you might just want to leave it alone.Wont be messin with much more have some 90s and such to play with still My answers are in red, as far as accuracy so far at 100yds its damn close to a sub MOA to .5moa gun consistently in a few peoples hands. It hasnt let me down on a fuzzy target yet  Should be getting it out to 500+ this coming week hopefully will have 200yd groups to post.
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WY, USA
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Posted: 6/30/2012 2:57:05 PM EDT
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Back from the range with chrono readings for the 85gr NBT, 90gr SGK, and 90gr SBK from my 25-223 Bolt Gun.
Loaded with H335 powder, in Nosler neck sized brass (5th loading), Wolf Small Rifle Magnum Primers. 85gr seated to 2.445", 90gr SGK's seated to 2.315", 90gr SBK seated to 2.425" (should have seated to about 2.410" instead because I was getting a little to much jam. I need to clean my barrel but all loads show promise and would have likely done better if I had run a couple patches through the bore....it has only been 300 rounds since the last patch. 27.0gr of H335 85gr NBT 2923 2954 2955 2897.....chrono graph turned slightly not sure if it effect velocity 2920 27.0gr of H335 90gr SGK 2900 2895 2896 2902 2894 27.0gr of H335 90gr SBK 2918 2938 2920 2898 2919 Accuracy was alright with all 27.0gr loads, center was 85gr NBT's, top center was 90gr SGK, left top was 90gr SBK. 
I also shot 27.5gr of H335 loads, the 85gr NBT and the 90gr SGK were shot over the chrono and on paper at 100, the 90gr SBK was shot at the 500 yard plate and not over the chrono. Groups opened up and werent worth taking a picture of. The 500 yard plate had 5 new hits that were about 4" across though. 27.5gr H335 85gr NBT 2998 3005 3015 3027 3019 27.5gr of H335 90gr SGK 2960 2994 2994 2999 2984 Velocity numbers are good and accuracy seems to be alright in this weight range so I might try the 85s again, seem like they might work alright for antelope. |
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NJ, USA
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Posted: 7/3/2012 9:53:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: scatterbrains]
[#38]
huh? shits and giggles try 26gr with the 85s i thought for sure you would have had much better accuracy than that with the bolt gun. Groups are on par with my gas gun and less powder
ive got 40rnds loaded up with the hornady 75gr HP ill be shooting groups at 200 tomorrow and hopefully going to push it out to 700yds tomorrow with both the 85s and 75HP. |
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Posted: 7/7/2012 3:42:51 PM EDT
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I finally did some testing with the 80gr TTSX and RE7.
16" 1:10 .25-223, Reloader 7, LC Brass, Fed 205 primer 23.0gr........2648fps 23.5gr........2672fps 24.0gr........2723fps I had very light ejector swipes with 23.5gr but then had very heavy ejector swipes with 24.0gr, so I think the 24 grain load will be a bit hot for my rifle. I know this is the load Wombat really likes in his pig rifle, and I must admit I'm a bit disappointed that my rifle didn't like it as much, but it isn't worth pushing. I am going to try H4198 with the TTSX as it works well with my 87gr HotCor bullets. We'll see if I get similar results. |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 7/7/2012 5:25:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 320pf]
[#40]
Originally Posted By Altair:
I finally did some testing with the 80gr TTSX and RE7. 16" 1:10 .25-223, Reloader 7, LC Brass, Fed 205 primer 23.0gr........2648fps 23.5gr........2672fps 24.0gr........2723fps I had very light ejector swipes with 23.5gr but then had very heavy ejector swipes with 24.0gr, so I think the 24 grain load will be a bit hot for my rifle. I know this is the load Wombat really likes in his pig rifle, and I must admit I'm a bit disappointed that my rifle didn't like it as much, but it isn't worth pushing. I am going to try H4198 with the TTSX as it works well with my 87gr HotCor bullets. We'll see if I get similar results. Wombat is running an 18 inch barrel. The ejector swipes are most likely from the gun being slightly over gassed. The pressure calculator estimates that you are running about 50000 to 51000 CUP. So you are getting close to max. I have had really good results with A1680 and A200 wtih the 80g TTSX. |
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Posted: 7/7/2012 8:23:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 320pf:
Originally Posted By Altair:
I finally did some testing with the 80gr TTSX and RE7. 16" 1:10 .25-223, Reloader 7, LC Brass, Fed 205 primer 23.0gr........2648fps 23.5gr........2672fps 24.0gr........2723fps I had very light ejector swipes with 23.5gr but then had very heavy ejector swipes with 24.0gr, so I think the 24 grain load will be a bit hot for my rifle. I know this is the load Wombat really likes in his pig rifle, and I must admit I'm a bit disappointed that my rifle didn't like it as much, but it isn't worth pushing. I am going to try H4198 with the TTSX as it works well with my 87gr HotCor bullets. We'll see if I get similar results. Wombat is running an 18 inch barrel. The ejector swipes are most likely from the gun being slightly over gassed. The pressure calculator estimates that you are running about 50000 to 51000 CUP. So you are getting close to max. I have had really good results with A1680 and A200 wtih the 80g TTSX. Ejector swipes have been the only pressure sign I've run into so far and I think you're right, my gun is probably on the overgassed side. I suspect that is why it will run damn near any bullet/powder combo. While I don't think I'm in dangerous territory it does keep me honest too. If you recall, putting an H3 buffer in the gun allowed me to push the loads a little harder before getting swipes, which would support the idea that it is probably an overgas issue. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 7/8/2012 12:16:42 PM EDT
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 Originally Posted By Altair:
Originally Posted By 320pf:
Originally Posted By Altair:
I finally did some testing with the 80gr TTSX and RE7. 16" 1:10 .25-223, Reloader 7, LC Brass, Fed 205 primer 23.0gr........2648fps 23.5gr........2672fps 24.0gr........2723fps I had very light ejector swipes with 23.5gr but then had very heavy ejector swipes with 24.0gr, so I think the 24 grain load will be a bit hot for my rifle. I know this is the load Wombat really likes in his pig rifle, and I must admit I'm a bit disappointed that my rifle didn't like it as much, but it isn't worth pushing. I am going to try H4198 with the TTSX as it works well with my 87gr HotCor bullets. We'll see if I get similar results. Wombat is running an 18 inch barrel. The ejector swipes are most likely from the gun being slightly over gassed. The pressure calculator estimates that you are running about 50000 to 51000 CUP. So you are getting close to max. I have had really good results with A1680 and A200 wtih the 80g TTSX. Ejector swipes have been the only pressure sign I've run into so far and I think you're right, my gun is probably on the overgassed side. I suspect that is why it will run damn near any bullet/powder combo. While I don't think I'm in dangerous territory it does keep me honest too. If you recall, putting an H3 buffer in the gun allowed me to push the loads a little harder before getting swipes, which would support the idea that it is probably an overgas issue. Sounds like time for an adjustable gas block. |
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NJ, USA
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Posted: 7/16/2012 10:38:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: scatterbrains]
[#43]
Well i have now capped 22 groundhogs ranging from 10yds to almost 400yds with the 25-223.
The last 4 i killed were with the Hornady 75gr HP DRT no exit wounds just seemed to explode the insides i think i gave one a heart attack also as he had only one entrance wound, Yet i shot him "twice" first round he fell over then as i was walking towards him he was walking around in circles and falling over so i popped him again LOL. overall the hornady 75 has proven to be a good inexpensive bullet that shoots very well. anything over 400yd will be getting a nosler though.
In other news i have started to collect parts to build a new upper in my next fun caliber 20 Practical
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NY, USA
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Posted: 7/17/2012 10:54:09 PM EDT
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We started a new forum over on Quarterbore on the various 223/5.45x39 wildcats. I would like to start a couple of threads were collate/list the various load data for the 25-223AR by bullet weight and type.
If people are interested in contributing please stop by. http://www.quarterbore.net/forums/index.php?f=31 |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 8/10/2012 9:12:22 AM EDT
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Time for me to get back to work! I had loaned out my 25/223 for a couple of months, and now that it is back, it is time to hit the loading bench.
Several were going to try the 2200 and we have seen hit & miss reports. For those that have used it, how did it fare compared to the H335 with 100 gr. bullets? |
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NJ, USA
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Posted: 8/10/2012 10:01:33 AM EDT
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I think the 2200 and 335 are the go to powders. At this point i am sticking to 335 for this cartridge. Mainly to to being able to get locally.
It kills fine and one of these days ill start relly getting nuts with the load prep and mess with seating depth. |
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Posted: 8/10/2012 10:29:53 AM EDT
[#47]
Originally Posted By Graycard:
Time for me to get back to work! I had loaned out my 25/223 for a couple of months, and now that it is back, it is time to hit the loading bench. Several were going to try the 2200 and we have seen hit & miss reports. For those that have used it, how did it fare compared to the H335 with 100 gr. bullets? Hello Guys, We have stared testing AA2200 with the .223 based 6.5mm PCC cartridge, It is showing good promise in velocity, accuracy, and pressure levels. While we are In the first stages of testing, we are very encouraged thus far with the accuracy and velocity generated by this powder, and we are testing it with a 22" bbl. length, which Indicates that it has wide/linear pressure curve (normally the faster burning/ high energy powders don't do well w/ bbl. lengths past 18"-20"). The good news is we have yet to reach/see any pressure signs (It seems to be temp. stable as well, as we have used it in 90+ degree temps. and velocity es/sd have remained stable). We are testing loads with projectile weights from 85grs. to 129grs., and soon with a 140 grainer. I think that AA2200 is worth trying in the wonderful .25-223 cartridge, I would hope it can develope similar promise as in the 6.5mm PCC round... just give it a chance with as many load combo's as you can develope...even if it does not give you the highest velocity, it may give you some really good accuracy results... I will look in the archives and see what the velocity/accuracy numbers are so far w/ the AA2200 powder and the 6.5mm PCC carteidge...stay tuned. Good luck guys... |
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Posted: 8/10/2012 10:41:02 AM EDT
[#48]
Originally Posted By Dr69er:
Originally Posted By Graycard:
Time for me to get back to work! I had loaned out my 25/223 for a couple of months, and now that it is back, it is time to hit the loading bench. Several were going to try the 2200 and we have seen hit & miss reports. For those that have used it, how did it fare compared to the H335 with 100 gr. bullets? Hello Guys, We have stared testing AA2200 with the .223 based 6.5mm PCC cartridge, It is showing good promise in velocity, accuracy, and pressure levels. While we are In the first stages of testing, we are very encouraged thus far with the accuracy and velocity generated by this powder, and we are testing it with a 22" bbl. length, which Indicates that it has wide/linear pressure curve (normally the faster burning/ high energy powders don't do well w/ bbl. lengths past 18"-20"). The good news is we have yet to reach/see any pressure signs (It seems to be temp. stable as well, as we have used it in 90+ degree temps. and velocity es/sd have remained stable). We are testing loads with projectile weights from 85grs. to 129grs., and soon with a 140 grainer. I think that AA2200 is worth trying in the wonderful .25-223 cartridge, I would hope it can develope similar promise as in the 6.5mm PCC round... just give it a chance with as many load combo's as you can develope...even if it does not give you the highest velocity, it may give you some really good accuracy results... I will look in the archives and see what the velocity/accuracy numbers are so far w/ the AA2200 powder and the 6.5mm PCC carteidge...stay tuned. Good luck guys... i will help you out vic her is some velocities AA2200 26.2 85 sierra hp rem 7 1/2 primer 1)2882 fresh cases 2)2877 3)2854 High:2882 Low:2854 E.S.:28 Ave.:2871 S.D.:12.2 AA2200 26.5 85 sierra hp rem 7 1/2 primer 1)2906 fresh cases 2)2907 3)2878 High:2907 Low:2878 E.S.:29 Ave.:2897 S.D.:13.4 AA2200 26.8 85 sierra hp rem 7 1/2 primer 1)2960 fresh cases 2)2919 3)2938 High:2960 Low:2919 E.S.:41 Ave.:2939.5 S.D.:20.5 
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Posted: 8/10/2012 10:55:16 AM EDT
[#49]
Originally Posted By BIGGDAWG:
Originally Posted By Dr69er:
Originally Posted By Graycard:
Time for me to get back to work! I had loaned out my 25/223 for a couple of months, and now that it is back, it is time to hit the loading bench. Several were going to try the 2200 and we have seen hit & miss reports. For those that have used it, how did it fare compared to the H335 with 100 gr. bullets? Hello Guys, We have stared testing AA2200 with the .223 based 6.5mm PCC cartridge, It is showing good promise in velocity, accuracy, and pressure levels. While we are In the first stages of testing, we are very encouraged thus far with the accuracy and velocity generated by this powder, and we are testing it with a 22" bbl. length, which Indicates that it has wide/linear pressure curve (normally the faster burning/ high energy powders don't do well w/ bbl. lengths past 18"-20"). The good news is we have yet to reach/see any pressure signs (It seems to be temp. stable as well, as we have used it in 90+ degree temps. and velocity es/sd have remained stable). We are testing loads with projectile weights from 85grs. to 129grs., and soon with a 140 grainer. I think that AA2200 is worth trying in the wonderful .25-223 cartridge, I would hope it can develope similar promise as in the 6.5mm PCC round... just give it a chance with as many load combo's as you can develope...even if it does not give you the highest velocity, it may give you some really good accuracy results... I will look in the archives and see what the velocity/accuracy numbers are so far w/ the AA2200 powder and the 6.5mm PCC carteidge...stay tuned. Good luck guys... i will help you out vic her is some velocities AA2200 26.2 85 sierra hp rem 7 1/2 primer 1)2882 fresh cases 2)2877 3)2854 High:2882 Low:2854 E.S.:28 Ave.:2871 S.D.:12.2 AA2200 26.5 85 sierra hp rem 7 1/2 primer 1)2906 fresh cases 2)2907 3)2878 High:2907 Low:2878 E.S.:29 Ave.:2897 S.D.:13.4 AA2200 26.8 85 sierra hp rem 7 1/2 primer 1)2960 fresh cases 2)2919 3)2938 High:2960 Low:2919 E.S.:41 Ave.:2939.5 S.D.:20.5 http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y124/BIGGDAWG800/65pccAA220085sierrahp.jpg Thanks, BIGGDAWG. |
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Posted: 8/10/2012 11:41:12 AM EDT
[#50]
I know brent has been working with the aa2200 alot, i think it is his go to powder for 100gr loads as it has a slight edge on h335 with less powder.
If i recall correctly 
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