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Posted: 7/8/2014 4:27:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/8/2014 4:39:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryHow about tires that aren't designed to dangerous degrade faster to create artificially pitstops and we bring back refueling... |
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Posted: 7/8/2014 4:49:37 PM EDT
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Quote History  shorter side wall = better handling |
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Posted: 7/8/2014 5:58:11 PM EDT
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shorter side wall = better handling Quote HistoryQuoted:
shorter side wall = better handling Well, in this instance, I'll go with.... Michelin better than Pirelli. So yeah, better! 
Politics, handling, whatever, aside, can you imagine the braking forces they'll generate if allowed to fill up an 18" wheel with brake hardware? No, I'm wrong. They already can lock up tires at will, so larger brakes will make it worse. Other than looks, I can't see an advantage to the larger wheel. |
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Posted: 7/8/2014 6:26:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryInterdasting, but why does the Ferrari have Michelin's on it?? |
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Posted: 7/8/2014 6:30:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, in this instance, I'll go with.... Michelin better than Pirelli. So yeah, better! Politics, handling, whatever, aside, can you imagine the braking forces they'll generate if allowed to fill up an 18" wheel with brake hardware? No, I'm wrong. They already can lock up tires at will, so larger brakes will make it worse. Other than looks, I can't see an advantage to the larger wheel. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: shorter side wall = better handling Well, in this instance, I'll go with.... Michelin better than Pirelli. So yeah, better! Politics, handling, whatever, aside, can you imagine the braking forces they'll generate if allowed to fill up an 18" wheel with brake hardware? No, I'm wrong. They already can lock up tires at will, so larger brakes will make it worse. Other than looks, I can't see an advantage to the larger wheel. Larger diameter brake disks will lead to reduced hyrdualic pressure at the calipers for the same (or relatively so) amount of friction; so reduced wear. The FIA will fsck that up by having brake change rules limiting the number of sets the teams can burn through during the season. m |
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Posted: 7/8/2014 7:07:49 PM EDT
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Interdasting, but why does the Ferrari have Michelin's on it?? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Interdasting, but why does the Ferrari have Michelin's on it?? Michelin has stated that the only way they'd consider coming back in would be a tire size more in line with current pass car tech. |
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Posted: 7/8/2014 7:11:24 PM EDT
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Larger diameter brake disks will lead to reduced hyrdualic pressure at the calipers for the same (or relatively so) amount of friction; so reduced wear. The FIA will fsck that up by having brake change rules limiting the number of sets the teams can burn through during the season. m Quote HistoryQuoted:
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shorter side wall = better handling Well, in this instance, I'll go with.... Michelin better than Pirelli. So yeah, better!
Politics, handling, whatever, aside, can you imagine the braking forces they'll generate if allowed to fill up an 18" wheel with brake hardware? No, I'm wrong. They already can lock up tires at will, so larger brakes will make it worse. Other than looks, I can't see an advantage to the larger wheel. Larger diameter brake disks will lead to reduced hyrdualic pressure at the calipers for the same (or relatively so) amount of friction; so reduced wear. The FIA will fsck that up by having brake change rules limiting the number of sets the teams can burn through during the season. m Larger rotors will not reduce pressure. A master cylinder diameter change OR caliper piston diameter change would. Larger rotors will increase available leverage, but the teams will maximise that. They'll change master cylinder and caliper diameters to suit. That could result in an easier pedal to modulate. My argument is the current tire width and overall diameter is already at it's deceleration limit. They'd either need a width change, a diameter change, or a compound change, to increase deceleration rates. |
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Posted: 7/8/2014 7:13:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, in this instance, I'll go with.... Michelin better than Pirelli. So yeah, better! Politics, handling, whatever, aside, can you imagine the braking forces they'll generate if allowed to fill up an 18" wheel with brake hardware? No, I'm wrong. They already can lock up tires at will, so larger brakes will make it worse. Other than looks, I can't see an advantage to the larger wheel. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: shorter side wall = better handling Well, in this instance, I'll go with.... Michelin better than Pirelli. So yeah, better! Politics, handling, whatever, aside, can you imagine the braking forces they'll generate if allowed to fill up an 18" wheel with brake hardware? No, I'm wrong. They already can lock up tires at will, so larger brakes will make it worse. Other than looks, I can't see an advantage to the larger wheel. i wonder if the current tires fold over a bit under extreme braking.. |
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Posted: 7/8/2014 7:46:18 PM EDT
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Michelin has stated that the only way they'd consider coming back in would be a tire size more in line with current pass car tech. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Interdasting, but why does the Ferrari have Michelin's on it?? Michelin has stated that the only way they'd consider coming back in would be a tire size more in line with current pass car tech. Oh yeah, i remember them saying that. IMO Michelin ain't coming back, unless they can be sole supplier, they got their asses burnt last time they had competition. |
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Posted: 7/8/2014 8:22:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Interdasting, but why does the Ferrari have Michelin's on it?? Quote HistoryQuoted: Interdasting, but why does the Ferrari have Michelin's on it?? Because it's only in illustration. Lotus will be the car in the test and Pireli is saying tyre you will see is principally designed to demonstrate aesthetics rather than performance. Additionally Pirelli’s motorsport director Paul Hembery commented: "The 13-inch tyre is no longer relevant to the everyday road user, because even an 18-inch tyre is used by standard vehicles these days. While 18-inch tyres would be a big step for Formula One, there are many other motorsport series that already use this size. So there’s scope to go even bigger than that in Formula One in years to come. In order to underline F1’s role as a test bed for future mobility solutions, we believe that it benefits everybody to have as close a link between road car tyres and competition tyres as possible: a belief we have held ever since we introduced the low profile tyre from competition to road use back in the 1970s. However, we’d like to emphasise that this move is not something that we are actively pushing for, as our role in Formula One is not to instigate changes. Instead, it’s to help teams and drivers make the most out of the equipment, regulations and resources they have at their disposal – whatever they decide that framework is going to be. |
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Posted: 7/8/2014 9:22:28 PM EDT
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This. I understand the need for drainage, but there's gotta be a better solution than a car-killing trench a few feet off the track..... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's a bit of a stretch. Have you ever witnessed a driver go wide on a turn exit and decide "Well I'm not 100% sure it's safe to re enter so instead of maintaining racing speed and squeezing back on I'm going to stop the car and let the whole field by." No one ever does it so getting mad about that is stupid especially given the fact that he had plenty of room to re enter had he not gone airborne and lost control. Now had he walked the track would he have remembered the trench and avoided it? Who knows... never a bad idea though. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile This. I understand the need for drainage, but there's gotta be a better solution than a car-killing trench a few feet off the track..... It looked like they were using the telescopic handler as a piledriver. I think they maxed out their engineering abilities.
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Posted: 7/8/2014 9:58:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Larger rotors will not reduce pressure. A master cylinder diameter change OR caliper piston diameter change would. Larger rotors will increase available leverage, but the teams will maximise that. They'll change master cylinder and caliper diameters to suit. That could result in an easier pedal to modulate. My argument is the current tire width and overall diameter is already at it's deceleration limit. They'd either need a width change, a diameter change, or a compound change, to increase deceleration rates. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: shorter side wall = better handling Well, in this instance, I'll go with.... Michelin better than Pirelli. So yeah, better! Politics, handling, whatever, aside, can you imagine the braking forces they'll generate if allowed to fill up an 18" wheel with brake hardware? No, I'm wrong. They already can lock up tires at will, so larger brakes will make it worse. Other than looks, I can't see an advantage to the larger wheel. Larger diameter brake disks will lead to reduced hyrdualic pressure at the calipers for the same (or relatively so) amount of friction; so reduced wear. The FIA will fsck that up by having brake change rules limiting the number of sets the teams can burn through during the season. m Larger rotors will not reduce pressure. A master cylinder diameter change OR caliper piston diameter change would. Larger rotors will increase available leverage, but the teams will maximise that. They'll change master cylinder and caliper diameters to suit. That could result in an easier pedal to modulate. My argument is the current tire width and overall diameter is already at it's deceleration limit. They'd either need a width change, a diameter change, or a compound change, to increase deceleration rates. I worded that poorly. Obviously changing the rotor diameter doesn't impact pressure. I meant to say that the larger rotors could allow for reduced pressure. m |
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Posted: 7/8/2014 10:45:09 PM EDT
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114881
oh booohoo Merc is destroying the field, have to make shit up so they lose. F1 gets one step closer to being a piece of shit spec series.  |
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Posted: 7/8/2014 11:38:08 PM EDT
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So far everything I've read just points to relating it to other series or current road car tires. I don't see the point.
Decades have been spent on designing the whole brake and suspension package around a 13 inch wheel. It'll really screw up the aero too. Even keeping the same width and diameter. Losing that much flat"ish" sidewall will certainly impact the flow past the tires. Rotational inertia shouldn't change much, and maybe even unsprung weight. I'd have to think that the belt package needed to support a current F1 car is fairly substantial. I could be really off on that. I'll ask our Michelin engineer this week and see what he thinks. I think the real advantage will be allowing engineers more freedom in suspension points. Not saying I'm against it at all, but I think it's waay down on the list of things that need "fixing". |
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Posted: 7/9/2014 12:34:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So far everything I've read just points to relating it to other series or current road car tires. I don't see the point. Decades have been spent on designing the whole brake and suspension package around a 13 inch wheel. It'll really screw up the aero too. Even keeping the same width and diameter. Losing that much flat"ish" sidewall will certainly impact the flow past the tires. Rotational inertia shouldn't change much, and maybe even unsprung weight. I'd have to think that the belt package needed to support a current F1 car is fairly substantial. I could be really off on that. I'll ask our Michelin engineer this week and see what he thinks. I think the real advantage will be allowing engineers more freedom in suspension points. Not saying I'm against it at all, but I think it's waay down on the list of things that need "fixing". |
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Posted: 7/9/2014 2:05:49 AM EDT
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How long before they rollin' on 20's? With spinners? If I wasn't on my iPad, I'd like to do a photochop of an F1 car on 25 series tires on 20" chrome wheels.
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Posted: 7/9/2014 9:46:27 AM EDT
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How 'bout the FIA just stick to track design and racing limits (in terms of safety) and let the manufacturers REALLY COMPETE for F1 design/technology dominance and use whatever they can come up with???
I know... I'm just a crusty old fart that way... 
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Posted: 7/9/2014 9:52:15 AM EDT
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114881 oh booohoo Merc is destroying the field, have to make shit up so they lose. F1 gets one step closer to being a piece of shit spec series. Quote HistoryQuoted:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114881 oh booohoo Merc is destroying the field, have to make shit up so they lose. F1 gets one step closer to being a piece of shit spec series. Whiting suggests that the way the suspension systems help control pitch and roll could be in breach of article 3.15 of F1's technical regulations. Article 3.15 is the catch-all regulation that relates to moveable aerodynamic devices. It outlaws any part of the car that influences the aerodynamics that is not "rigidly secured to the entirely sprung part of the car (rigidly secured means not having any degree of freedom)." That's the exact same rule they used to fuck Renault back in 2006 when they banned the Mass Damper, IIRC. Considering suspension systems as 'active aero devices' is stupid. No shit, it controls the ride height. 
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Posted: 7/9/2014 10:23:40 AM EDT
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Larger tires and rims means more unsprung weight.
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Posted: 7/9/2014 10:39:54 AM EDT
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the most significant effects of the 18" wheel would likely be reduced aero turbulence at intermediate speeds from wider spaced Front suspension and decreased pitch sensitivity due to tire temperature / pressure changes - more wheel less tire volume.
Expect they'd push for the tire blanket ban alongside the increased wheel diameter. This series has totally lost its way
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Posted: 7/9/2014 10:43:34 AM EDT
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114881 oh booohoo Merc is destroying the field, have to make shit up so they lose. F1 gets one step closer to being a piece of shit spec series. the bullshit is why something deemed illegal has been allowed at the begin of the season.....!!!!
if its illegal, it must be banned from race 1... if it was not deemed illegal back then, then its not illegal today's either.. |
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Posted: 7/9/2014 10:49:08 AM EDT
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the bullshit is why something deemed illegal has been allowed at the begin of the season.....!!!!
if its illegal, it must be banned from race 1... if it was not deemed illegal back then, then its not illegal today's either.. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114881 oh booohoo Merc is destroying the field, have to make shit up so they lose. F1 gets one step closer to being a piece of shit spec series. the bullshit is why something deemed illegal has been allowed at the begin of the season.....!!!!
if its illegal, it must be banned from race 1... if it was not deemed illegal back then, then its not illegal today's either.. Yep, and if it were truly illegal why wouldn't teams be penalized for using it. The changing the rules mid season is bullshit, just like the tire changes last year. |
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Posted: 7/9/2014 11:23:49 AM EDT
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Yep, and if it were truly illegal why wouldn't teams be penalized for using it. The changing the rules mid season is bullshit, just like the tire changes last year. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114881 oh booohoo Merc is destroying the field, have to make shit up so they lose. F1 gets one step closer to being a piece of shit spec series. the bullshit is why something deemed illegal has been allowed at the begin of the season.....!!!!
if its illegal, it must be banned from race 1... if it was not deemed illegal back then, then its not illegal today's either.. Yep, and if it were truly illegal why wouldn't teams be penalized for using it. The changing the rules mid season is bullshit, just like the tire changes last year. It will be in place for next year---no way all the teams vote to implement it for next weekend. |
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Posted: 7/9/2014 11:24:40 AM EDT
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It will be in place for next year---no way all the teams vote to implement it for next weekend. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114881 oh booohoo Merc is destroying the field, have to make shit up so they lose. F1 gets one step closer to being a piece of shit spec series. the bullshit is why something deemed illegal has been allowed at the begin of the season.....!!!!
if its illegal, it must be banned from race 1... if it was not deemed illegal back then, then its not illegal today's either.. Yep, and if it were truly illegal why wouldn't teams be penalized for using it. The changing the rules mid season is bullshit, just like the tire changes last year. It will be in place for next year---no way all the teams vote to implement it for next weekend. you have it wrong/backward i believe.. ALL teams must agree to have the ban delayed... If only one teams doesnt agree and wants it deemed illegal from this year/next race, then it will be It has asked teams to vote on whether or not they will be in favour of delaying the ban until the start of 2015 rather than it coming into force for the German GP.
However, for that to happen it would require unanimous support from all the teams on the grid. It is unclear how easy it will be to achieve unanimous support for a delay - especially if any team feels its FRIC design is not as good as a rival's, or indeed if a team is not running the system at all. If unanimous support is not reached, then Whiting has made it clear that from the next race in Germany, any team running FRIC risks being reported to the stewards by the FIA for non-compliance with the regulations. The fact that the FIA has indicated it believes FRIC to be illegal also opens the door for a team to protest one of its rivals from the next race. |
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Posted: 7/9/2014 11:31:48 AM EDT
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You are correct I typed it incorrectly. I do believe all the teams will vote to postpone it till 2015. |
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Posted: 7/9/2014 11:33:24 AM EDT
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Have they fixed that god awful sound that is emanating from the cars yet?
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Posted: 7/9/2014 1:07:59 PM EDT
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mean_sartin says:
Think before you go dicking with F1s rules, Bernie. |
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Posted: 7/9/2014 2:38:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's the exact same rule they used to fuck Renault back in 2006 when they banned the Mass Damper, IIRC. Considering suspension systems as 'active aero devices' is stupid. No shit, it controls the ride height. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114881 oh booohoo Merc is destroying the field, have to make shit up so they lose. F1 gets one step closer to being a piece of shit spec series. Whiting suggests that the way the suspension systems help control pitch and roll could be in breach of article 3.15 of F1's technical regulations. Article 3.15 is the catch-all regulation that relates to moveable aerodynamic devices. It outlaws any part of the car that influences the aerodynamics that is not "rigidly secured to the entirely sprung part of the car (rigidly secured means not having any degree of freedom)." That's the exact same rule they used to fuck Renault back in 2006 when they banned the Mass Damper, IIRC. Considering suspension systems as 'active aero devices' is stupid. No shit, it controls the ride height. |
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Posted: 7/9/2014 2:39:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It will be in place for next year---no way all the teams vote to implement it for next weekend. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114881 oh booohoo Merc is destroying the field, have to make shit up so they lose. F1 gets one step closer to being a piece of shit spec series. the bullshit is why something deemed illegal has been allowed at the begin of the season.....!!!! if its illegal, it must be banned from race 1... if it was not deemed illegal back then, then its not illegal today's either.. Yep, and if it were truly illegal why wouldn't teams be penalized for using it. The changing the rules mid season is bullshit, just like the tire changes last year. It will be in place for next year---no way all the teams vote to implement it for next weekend.  |
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Posted: 7/9/2014 2:40:20 PM EDT
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FRIC isnt even that fucking complicated..
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Posted: 7/9/2014 5:44:22 PM EDT
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It is ridiculous how right these wheels look.
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Posted: 7/9/2014 5:47:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/9/2014 6:15:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/9/2014 6:29:45 PM EDT
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Ah, so same overall diameter, just literally a rim diameter change.
Is rim lighter than rubber? I guess it would then be LESS unsprung weight. |
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Posted: 7/9/2014 6:36:17 PM EDT
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i think its kind of badass... never realized they still used 13" wheels.
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Posted: 7/9/2014 8:51:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is ridiculous how right these wheels look.  http://youtu.be/BjayRQEp22ghttp://i.imgur.com/TvBCuy8.jpg If they go with it, are teams allowed to design their own wheels? |
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Posted: 7/9/2014 8:53:22 PM EDT
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Agreed.. less weight, will help in brake cooling, looks a hell of a lot better. If they go with it, are teams allowed to design their own wheels? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It is ridiculous how right these wheels look. http://youtu.be/BjayRQEp22g
http://i.imgur.com/TvBCuy8.jpg If they go with it, are teams allowed to design their own wheels? Probably also cheaper and easier to produce as well. |
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Posted: 7/9/2014 9:09:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Agreed.. less weight, will help in brake cooling, looks a hell of a lot better. If they go with it, are teams allowed to design their own wheels? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It is ridiculous how right these wheels look. http://youtu.be/BjayRQEp22ghttp://i.imgur.com/TvBCuy8.jpg If they go with it, are teams allowed to design their own wheels? It's not a lighter combination. The weight is approximately the same as the 13-inch tyre, because although the diameter is bigger, there is a smaller sidewall. The total weight, including the rim, is around 4 kilograms heavier. |
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Posted: 7/9/2014 9:20:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: i think its kind of badass... never realized they still used 13" wheels.  Which makes finding 13" performance tires very difficult.  I'm fortunate to have a good friend in Germany that will ship to me, but I have to supply US Customs with the VIN's of my vehicles. |
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Posted: 7/9/2014 9:42:10 PM EDT
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13's are very common on road cars in Europe, but almost impossible to find in the US.
Which makes finding 13" performance tires very difficult.
I'm fortunate to have a good friend in Germany that will ship to me, but I have to supply US Customs with the VIN's of my vehicles. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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i think its kind of badass... never realized they still used 13" wheels.
Which makes finding 13" performance tires very difficult.
I'm fortunate to have a good friend in Germany that will ship to me, but I have to supply US Customs with the VIN's of my vehicles. Wha? Is there a legit reason they need your VINs? Isn't paying duties on them the important part? |
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Posted: 7/9/2014 11:41:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Agreed.. less weight, will help in brake cooling, looks a hell of a lot better. If they go with it, are teams allowed to design their own wheels? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It is ridiculous how right these wheels look. http://youtu.be/BjayRQEp22ghttp://i.imgur.com/TvBCuy8.jpg If they go with it, are teams allowed to design their own wheels? annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd its banned |
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Posted: 7/10/2014 1:15:59 AM EDT
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Agreed.. less weight, will help in brake cooling, looks a hell of a lot better. If they go with it, are teams allowed to design their own wheels? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It is ridiculous how right these wheels look. http://youtu.be/BjayRQEp22g
http://i.imgur.com/TvBCuy8.jpg If they go with it, are teams allowed to design their own wheels? I was reading that the smaller sidewalls would have a pretty bid change on aero performance. There would also be room for some more suspension tricks able to be packed on the backside. |
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Posted: 7/10/2014 1:23:30 AM EDT
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I was reading that the smaller sidewalls would have a pretty bid change on aero performance. There would also be room for some more suspension tricks able to be packed on the backside. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It is ridiculous how right these wheels look. http://youtu.be/BjayRQEp22g
http://i.imgur.com/TvBCuy8.jpg If they go with it, are teams allowed to design their own wheels? I was reading that the smaller sidewalls would have a pretty bid change on aero performance. There would also be room for some more suspension tricks able to be packed on the backside. Tons of stuff packed into the space. 
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Posted: 7/10/2014 8:23:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryI can get used to the look. The ol' Crew Chief |
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Posted: 7/10/2014 12:47:34 PM EDT
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Have they fixed that god awful sound that is emanating from the cars yet? Nope. Still sounds as under-powered and shitty as at the beginning of the season. For a while I kind of just looked past it and tried to forget about it. But it's bugging me again lately. Sounds like someone loping their old V8 around the track, bogging it and flooding it. Sounds like garbage. Ridiculous torque or not... it sounds like hell and doesn't sound like racing. 
And while we're at it... Verizon is PISSING me off! 
What else is grinding my gears... hmmmm... oh yeah... Charter Communications is pissing me off too!
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Posted: 7/10/2014 2:57:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryI could get used to the look of these new wheels. |
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Posted: 7/10/2014 8:18:02 PM EDT
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Nope. Still sounds as under-powered and shitty as at the beginning of the season. For a while I kind of just looked past it and tried to forget about it. But it's bugging me again lately. Sounds like someone loping their old V8 around the track, bogging it and flooding it. Sounds like garbage. Ridiculous torque or not... it sounds like hell and doesn't sound like racing.
And while we're at it... Verizon is PISSING me off!
What else is grinding my gears... hmmmm... oh yeah... Charter Communications is pissing me off too!
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Have they fixed that god awful sound that is emanating from the cars yet? Nope. Still sounds as under-powered and shitty as at the beginning of the season. For a while I kind of just looked past it and tried to forget about it. But it's bugging me again lately. Sounds like someone loping their old V8 around the track, bogging it and flooding it. Sounds like garbage. Ridiculous torque or not... it sounds like hell and doesn't sound like racing.
And while we're at it... Verizon is PISSING me off!
What else is grinding my gears... hmmmm... oh yeah... Charter Communications is pissing me off too!
Now now, bernie said that the sound wasn't being properly transmitted and we're just missing out on the awesome. |
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Posted: 7/11/2014 8:56:00 AM EDT
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Now now, bernie said that the sound wasn't being properly transmitted and we're just missing out on the awesome.
Yeah... all that "awesome" is just going right over my head. These dopey greenies just don't understand (or care) that racing is more visceral than anything else for both spectator and racer alike. The sensation of speed, the sounds, smells, etc... it's all part of the package. If we were talking about bicycle racing, we could have another discussion about noise being part of it... but this is MOTORIZED racing and pitch/volume will always be a BIG part of that experience. Lefty idiots around the world are truly screwing everything up and taking the joy out of life. Shared misery indeed...
Btw... what's the story with Will Buxton? The guy has been the V6's biggest cheerleader. Seriously... even the drivers hate the new engines (outside of Merc drivers of course). Greenies should all forsake motorsport entirely and just go race bicycles. But like the Mexicans who want to come to America and change this country to be more like the one they abandoned... they just want to screw-up everything around them up. P.S. I am aware that the manufacturers supposedly wanted to make this change to have their F1 R&D more accurately reflect (and trickle-down to) trends in manufacture of "regular people" cars. But I still can't but feel like F1 has been hamstrung, hobbled, and dumbed-down for the socialist agenda. Just like everything else. The wife and I live from F1 season to NFL season. Both sports are being gutted. Guess we'll have to just live more life away from the 70" flatscreen the more of this crap that goes on. |
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Btw... what's the story with Will Buxton? The guy has been the V6's biggest cheerleader Keeping in Bernie's good graces is my guess. |
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