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Posted: 6/25/2015 8:32:08 AM EDT
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Check on ctguntalk Guy was saying that if you want to register a "preban" rifle now- you need proof it is a preban- proof as in letter Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Any one have an update? I have two cans in the hook!! Check on ctguntalk Guy was saying that if you want to register a "preban" rifle now- you need proof it is a preban- proof as in letter Have any of you contacted the ATF for this info before? Are they helpful or douche bags? LMT gave pwa records to them a few months ago. Maybe we can start a thread on how to get papers and which company's do? Food for thought... Oh and if ct was able to be honest and publish serial cut offs for prebans id be okay with it but things are corrupt enough not sure if I trust them. |
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Posted: 6/25/2015 9:01:33 AM EDT
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Have any of you contacted the ATF for this info before? Are they helpful or douche bags? Yes people have contacted ATF, as claimed in both this and other threads. From CTGT a person contacted them yesterday about the hold up. "As of yesterday afternoon all NFA transfers are still on hold. ATF examiner Anne Feltner told me" |
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Posted: 6/25/2015 9:13:26 AM EDT
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Yes people have contacted ATF, as claimed in both this and other threads. From CTGT a person contacted them yesterday about the hold up. "As of yesterday afternoon all NFA transfers are still on hold. ATF examiner Anne Feltner told me" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Have any of you contacted the ATF for this info before? Are they helpful or douche bags? Yes people have contacted ATF, as claimed in both this and other threads. From CTGT a person contacted them yesterday about the hold up. "As of yesterday afternoon all NFA transfers are still on hold. ATF examiner Anne Feltner told me" SB, you failed to quote the best part...."if they decide to release them". |
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Posted: 6/25/2015 9:21:29 AM EDT
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Have any of you contacted the ATF for this info before? Are they helpful or douche bags? LMT gave pwa records to them a few months ago. Maybe we can start a thread on how to get papers and which company's do? Food for thought... Oh and if ct was able to be honest and publish serial cut offs for prebans id be okay with it but things are corrupt enough not sure if I trust them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Any one have an update? I have two cans in the hook!! Check on ctguntalk Guy was saying that if you want to register a "preban" rifle now- you need proof it is a preban- proof as in letter Have any of you contacted the ATF for this info before? Are they helpful or douche bags? LMT gave pwa records to them a few months ago. Maybe we can start a thread on how to get papers and which company's do? Food for thought... Oh and if ct was able to be honest and publish serial cut offs for prebans id be okay with it but things are corrupt enough not sure if I trust them. I've not contacted them, but in reading a bit on the ATF website it appears they only release serial-number specific information to LEOs for criminal investigations. That may have to do with tracing ownership more than anything else, but my guess is that is what they would fall back on when telling you they won't give out the info. Just a guess. |
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Posted: 6/25/2015 9:59:21 AM EDT
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SB, you failed to quote the best part...."if they decide to release them". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Have any of you contacted the ATF for this info before? Are they helpful or douche bags? Yes people have contacted ATF, as claimed in both this and other threads. From CTGT a person contacted them yesterday about the hold up. "As of yesterday afternoon all NFA transfers are still on hold. ATF examiner Anne Feltner told me" SB, you failed to quote the best part...."if they decide to release them". Oh I thought that was a given since its a government agency. 
You really have to love how this is shaking out. Its a circular firing squad between government agencies with the peasant stuck in the middle with zero recourse. ATF mandates one get a certificate of possession for an preban SBR even though its not mandated by state law, the state now demands you provide a letter for that preban that proves date of manufacture before they'll give a certificate of possession, that letter which either costs the peasant money to obtain or worse cannot be obtained because ATF holds the records for those businesses that are no longer in business. All this because of a poorly written unconstitutional law and how two government agencies are interpreting that poorly written unconstitutional law. 
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Posted: 6/25/2015 10:25:17 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/25/2015 11:24:31 AM EDT
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I know mine is preban due to the cutoff but it's nice to have proof. I may call this week or next to see what they say for the hell of it. I'm not SBRing it anyway, just like to be safe than sorry. And I'll post the results to try to help out.
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Posted: 6/25/2015 12:35:58 PM EDT
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Yes people have contacted ATF, as claimed in both this and other threads. From CTGT a person contacted them yesterday about the hold up. "As of yesterday afternoon all NFA transfers are still on hold. ATF examiner Anne Feltner told me" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Have any of you contacted the ATF for this info before? Are they helpful or douche bags? Yes people have contacted ATF, as claimed in both this and other threads. From CTGT a person contacted them yesterday about the hold up. "As of yesterday afternoon all NFA transfers are still on hold. ATF examiner Anne Feltner told me" Yup I just contacted them regarding an e-efiled F1, that should have been processed about 2 weeks ago. EVERYTHING transferring through CT is on hold, until, no one knows... |
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Posted: 6/25/2015 1:24:43 PM EDT
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Yup I just contacted them regarding an e-efiled F1, that should have been processed about 2 weeks ago. EVERYTHING transferring through CT is on hold, until, no one knows... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Have any of you contacted the ATF for this info before? Are they helpful or douche bags? Yes people have contacted ATF, as claimed in both this and other threads. From CTGT a person contacted them yesterday about the hold up. "As of yesterday afternoon all NFA transfers are still on hold. ATF examiner Anne Feltner told me" Yup I just contacted them regarding an e-efiled F1, that should have been processed about 2 weeks ago. EVERYTHING transferring through CT is on hold, until, no one knows... Just a little late to the party 
Honestly we could be looking at the end of NFA transfers here, either forever, or for a long time. What hurry is either government in to allow us access to this stuff. This is a blatant clue that our government is working against us, not for us. |
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Posted: 6/25/2015 1:26:51 PM EDT
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Just a little late to the party
Honestly we could be looking at the end of NFA transfers here, either forever, or for a long time. What hurry is either government in to allow us access to this stuff. This is a blatant clue that our government is working against us, not for us. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Have any of you contacted the ATF for this info before? Are they helpful or douche bags? Yes people have contacted ATF, as claimed in both this and other threads. From CTGT a person contacted them yesterday about the hold up. "As of yesterday afternoon all NFA transfers are still on hold. ATF examiner Anne Feltner told me" Yup I just contacted them regarding an e-efiled F1, that should have been processed about 2 weeks ago. EVERYTHING transferring through CT is on hold, until, no one knows... Just a little late to the party
Honestly we could be looking at the end of NFA transfers here, either forever, or for a long time. What hurry is either government in to allow us access to this stuff. This is a blatant clue that our government is working against us, not for us. Well, I think I'm going to try and F1 a silencer just so I can be in the line with the cool kids... |
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Posted: 6/25/2015 2:02:19 PM EDT
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Well, I think I'm going to try and F1 a silencer just so I can be in the line with the cool kids... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Have any of you contacted the ATF for this info before? Are they helpful or douche bags? Yes people have contacted ATF, as claimed in both this and other threads. From CTGT a person contacted them yesterday about the hold up. "As of yesterday afternoon all NFA transfers are still on hold. ATF examiner Anne Feltner told me" Yup I just contacted them regarding an e-efiled F1, that should have been processed about 2 weeks ago. EVERYTHING transferring through CT is on hold, until, no one knows... Just a little late to the party
Honestly we could be looking at the end of NFA transfers here, either forever, or for a long time. What hurry is either government in to allow us access to this stuff. This is a blatant clue that our government is working against us, not for us. Well, I think I'm going to try and F1 a silencer just so I can be in the line with the cool kids... For a Nagant revolver? 
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Posted: 6/25/2015 3:06:13 PM EDT
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They should at least process what's already in the system. How is one suppose to get a refund on their cans or MG's?
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Posted: 6/25/2015 6:09:18 PM EDT
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They should at least process what's already in the system. How is one suppose to get a refund on their cans or MG's? If an application is denied for some reason, the US treasury returns the $200 tax payment. Any money paid for the item is between the denied transferee and the transferor. |
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Posted: 6/25/2015 7:08:32 PM EDT
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I use to like being a CT resident but now I am embarrassed to even mention I'm a CT resident. I also just sent in two form 4's for two cans that are paid in full. I have seen soooo many changes through the years starting with the first CT assault ban in 1994.
Never thought things would be where they are today. Proud business man of 29 years, husband, homeowner, tax payer FCUKING CHUMP that's what I am. 33 years ago in basic training we were told how drugs, gay marriage and the whole shit system would be in the future. Man they were dead on! Look at our society as a hole. Now because some one wants to cut a barrel, make a can who the hell knows, everything is stopped. Yeah my undies are in a bunch
Business, family, friends makes it so hard to leave. How did this happen  
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Posted: 6/25/2015 7:17:01 PM EDT
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I use to like being a CT resident but now I am embarrassed to even mention I'm a CT resident. I also just sent in two form 4's for two cans that are paid in full. I have seen soooo many changes through the years starting with the first CT assault ban in 1994. Never thought things would be where they are today. Proud business man of 29 years, husband, homeowner, tax payer FCUKING CHUMP that's what I am. 33 years ago in basic training we were told how drugs, gay marriage and the whole shit system would be in the future. Man they were dead on! Look at our society as a hole. Now because some one wants to cut a barrel, make a can who the hell knows, everything is stopped. Yeah my undies are in a bunch
Business, family, friends makes it so hard to leave. How did this happen Well said 
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Posted: 6/25/2015 8:39:58 PM EDT
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Jade helm
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Posted: 6/26/2015 7:00:11 AM EDT
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We are at the added dis-advantage in that EVERY one of CT's congressional delegation are left-wing, progressive, anti-gun, Obama thralls. So, that means we can't even contact them to try to find out what is going on, let alone asking them for assistance. At least if Rob Simpson was still in office, I know he would have been on this like a dog on a bone. Even though he was not in my district, he used to say "you may not be able to vote for me, but I can vote for you".
Just another example of how elections matter, and every gun owner you know who didn't vote deserves every bit of grief they get! 
Maybe we should all start flooding the NFA customer service line with calls. Maybe if we prove a big enough collective PITA, they will at least tell us what is going on! |
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Posted: 6/26/2015 11:48:01 AM EDT
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Cross posting user msg1956 post from CTGT:
Just got off the phone with NFA "customer service". I got transferred to a "specialist", who's name I did not catch die to the crappy connection. (Think it was on speakerphone). He claimed that the hold was requested by the CT States attorney's office, and would remain in effect as long as they wanted it too. He also said that NO work was being done on any CT transfers during the hold.
So, bottom line, it is a state issue. If so, we at least have a few gun friendly state reps/senators to do some digging. I have mine cocked, locked, and ready to rock when/if the time comes.?? |
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Posted: 6/26/2015 12:10:01 PM EDT
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Anyone know people in the States Attorneys office to give us a clue where this is headed?
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Posted: 6/26/2015 12:25:31 PM EDT
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Anyone know people in the States Attorneys office to give us a clue where this is headed? like has been said before, a ban of nfa items in this state needs a vote. they can only hold it up for so long |
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Posted: 6/26/2015 12:27:47 PM EDT
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like has been said before, a ban of nfa items in this state needs a vote. they can only hold it up for so long Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anyone know people in the States Attorneys office to give us a clue where this is headed? like has been said before, a ban of nfa items in this state needs a vote. they can only hold it up for so long The question is, how long? Years? ETA: and now we know it's a CT problem and not on the ATF, so that's good. I think this is our state government working against us, just to punish us for as long as they can
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Posted: 6/26/2015 12:33:15 PM EDT
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Anyone know people in the States Attorneys office to give us a clue where this is headed? like has been said before, a ban of nfa items in this state needs a vote. they can only hold it up for so long The question is, how long? Years? i would think they cant go very long. if some pro gun lawyer wants to push buttons, im sure this could go back to normal. |
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Posted: 6/26/2015 12:35:39 PM EDT
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^ haven't heard from Conndcj in a while....maybe he knows something.....
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Posted: 6/26/2015 12:38:17 PM EDT
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^ haven't heard from Conndcj in a while....maybe he knows something..... he quoted he received a sbr stamp a few weeks ago |
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Posted: 6/26/2015 1:01:16 PM EDT
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^ haven't heard from Conndcj in a while....maybe he knows something..... he quoted he received a sbr stamp a few weeks ago Well, he may be just tired of the shit he catches here (I know I gave him some). But there is a part of me that now thinks he may have some insight, and was either told to, or decided on his own to lay low. |
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Posted: 6/26/2015 2:14:53 PM EDT
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Well, he may be just tired of the shit he catches here (I know I gave him some). But there is a part of me that now thinks he may have some insight, and was either told to, or decided on his own to lay low. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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^ haven't heard from Conndcj in a while....maybe he knows something..... he quoted he received a sbr stamp a few weeks ago Well, he may be just tired of the shit he catches here (I know I gave him some). But there is a part of me that now thinks he may have some insight, and was either told to, or decided on his own to lay low. Well ... When you bust balls, you should expect to have your balls busted. There is nothing new in the info loop so that would more than likely be why he isn't posting in this thread. Why keep posting stupid shit like.... " the government is against us" or "this could take years" or "if my aunt had balls she would have been my uncle". Holy Christ people, get it together! Stop with the end of the world NFA drama and the newly introduced conspiracy theories! |
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Posted: 6/26/2015 2:30:29 PM EDT
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Well ... When you bust balls, you should expect to have your balls busted. There is nothing new in the info loop so that would more than likely be why he isn't posting in this thread. Why keep posting stupid shit like.... " the government is against us" or "this could take years" or "if my aunt had balls she would have been my uncle". Holy Christ people, get it together! Stop with the end of the world NFA drama and the newly introduced conspiracy theories! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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^ haven't heard from Conndcj in a while....maybe he knows something..... he quoted he received a sbr stamp a few weeks ago Well, he may be just tired of the shit he catches here (I know I gave him some). But there is a part of me that now thinks he may have some insight, and was either told to, or decided on his own to lay low. Well ... When you bust balls, you should expect to have your balls busted. There is nothing new in the info loop so that would more than likely be why he isn't posting in this thread. Why keep posting stupid shit like.... " the government is against us" or "this could take years" or "if my aunt had balls she would have been my uncle". Holy Christ people, get it together! Stop with the end of the world NFA drama and the newly introduced conspiracy theories! I think nutter may know something we don't he keeps delflecting, AND him and Conndjc seem to be pretty close 
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Posted: 6/26/2015 2:38:12 PM EDT
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Holy Christ people, get it together! Stop with the end of the world NFA drama and the newly introduced conspiracy theories! You keep cool and rational all you like. I'm gonna continue to freak out until this whole thing shakes out. This will not end well. |
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Posted: 6/26/2015 3:01:28 PM EDT
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I got three sbr form 1 sitting there. If this shit happened a week later all three probably would have made it by now. 3/18 efile date. They are on 3/25 I have seen now. Such bullshit that I might not get now for weeks or months. No one knows just sucks. We deal with it living in this shit hole if CT. Getting excited or pissed off ain't gonna help move things along. Even after we jump through hoops to get atf and state of Ct what they wanted for the forms this shit still happens. FML/KMN
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Posted: 6/26/2015 3:02:19 PM EDT
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Oh my god you can't make a sbr and you have to wait for suppressors. Big fucking deal. You can't use suppressors to hunt with, it's a bragging right. Yea I'd like to have one but it's a waste. They collect dust in the safe. And sbr...it's a cool factor. We should be able to have these items, but having to wait longer on top of the wait that you all already have, big deal. You don't need them tomorrow for cqb... And if you did you wouldn't fill paper work out to be legal.
Relax. Sit back, and wait. It'll pan out. On the other note, I have serveral friends at the state and they said it isn't looking well for us at all. It's just step 1. If I told you what step 2 is that I know of, you wouldn't be freaking out of this little delema.
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Posted: 6/26/2015 3:11:18 PM EDT
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Oh my god you can't make a sbr and you have to wait for suppressors. Big fucking deal. You can't use suppressors to hunt with, it's a bragging right. Yea I'd like to have one but it's a waste. They collect dust in the safe. And sbr...it's a cool factor. We should be able to have these items, but having to wait longer on top of the wait that you all already have, big deal. You don't need them tomorrow for cqb... And if you did you wouldn't fill paper work out to be legal. Relax. Sit back, and wait. It'll pan out. On the other note, I have serveral friends at the state and they said it isn't looking well for us at all. It's just step 1. If I told you what step 2 is that I know of, you wouldn't be freaking out of this little delema.
go on...... 
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Posted: 6/26/2015 3:33:54 PM EDT
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^ I think he's just busting balls
But in all seriousness, I understand some of you guys are saying who cares, don't worry...but honestly I have about 12k sitting in limbo right now.....I'm fucking pissed, and a little nervous. Yea cans and SBR's are one thing but I have 2 MGs that I've paid for and have no idea if the state will ever let them transfer to me. At this point, it's more about the possibility of losing the money than anything(for me). So yea I'll keep posting that the sky is falling until I hear otherwise. As far as I'm concerned.....it is. Oh and green....I use both of my cans on a weekly basis on my SBR's 
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Posted: 6/26/2015 3:40:34 PM EDT
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Oh my god you can't make a sbr and you have to wait for suppressors. Big fucking deal. You can't use suppressors to hunt with, it's a bragging right. Yea I'd like to have one but it's a waste. They collect dust in the safe. And sbr...it's a cool factor. We should be able to have these items, but having to wait longer on top of the wait that you all already have, big deal. You don't need them tomorrow for cqb... And if you did you wouldn't fill paper work out to be legal. Relax. Sit back, and wait. It'll pan out. On the other note, I have serveral friends at the state and they said it isn't looking well for us at all. It's just step 1. If I told you what step 2 is that I know of, you wouldn't be freaking out of this little delema.
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Posted: 6/26/2015 3:44:44 PM EDT
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^ I think he's just busting balls
But in all seriousness, I understand some of you guys are saying who cares, don't worry...but honestly I have about 12k sitting in limbo right now.....I'm fucking pissed, and a little nervous. Yea cans and SBR's are one thing but I have 2 MGs that I've paid for and have no idea if the state will ever let them transfer to me. At this point, it's more about the possibility of losing the money than anything(for me). So yea I'll keep posting that the sky is falling until I hear otherwise. As far as I'm concerned.....it is. Oh and green....I use both of my cans on a weekly basis on my SBR's See, this I can understand. But for the people just wanting a can or sbr, relax. There's nothing we can do and pestering the ATF and state most likely won't help us any. |
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Posted: 6/26/2015 3:48:56 PM EDT
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^ I think he's just busting balls
But in all seriousness, I understand some of you guys are saying who cares, don't worry...but honestly I have about 12k sitting in limbo right now.....I'm fucking pissed, and a little nervous. Yea cans and SBR's are one thing but I have 2 MGs that I've paid for and have no idea if the state will ever let them transfer to me. At this point, it's more about the possibility of losing the money than anything(for me). So yea I'll keep posting that the sky is falling until I hear otherwise. As far as I'm concerned.....it is. Oh and green....I use both of my cans on a weekly basis on my SBR's You don't lose your money if they can't transfer in! The dealer that has them will sell them for you- this happens more than you think! |
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Posted: 6/26/2015 4:16:58 PM EDT
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You don't lose your money if they can't transfer in! The dealer that has them will sell them for you- this happens more than you think! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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^ I think he's just busting balls
But in all seriousness, I understand some of you guys are saying who cares, don't worry...but honestly I have about 12k sitting in limbo right now.....I'm fucking pissed, and a little nervous. Yea cans and SBR's are one thing but I have 2 MGs that I've paid for and have no idea if the state will ever let them transfer to me. At this point, it's more about the possibility of losing the money than anything(for me). So yea I'll keep posting that the sky is falling until I hear otherwise. As far as I'm concerned.....it is. Oh and green....I use both of my cans on a weekly basis on my SBR's You don't lose your money if they can't transfer in! The dealer that has them will sell them for you- this happens more than you think! WOW, did not think about this....at all. I figured I would have had to try to sell them and lose money, if I was even able to sell them... You just stopped some more gray hairs forming on my head.
This is all Ive been thinking about since last week. Now I can literally sleep tonight
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Posted: 6/26/2015 4:21:14 PM EDT
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WOW, did not think about this....at all. I figured I would have had to try to sell them and lose money, if I was even able to sell them... You just stopped some more gray hairs forming on my head.
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^ I think he's just busting balls
But in all seriousness, I understand some of you guys are saying who cares, don't worry...but honestly I have about 12k sitting in limbo right now.....I'm fucking pissed, and a little nervous. Yea cans and SBR's are one thing but I have 2 MGs that I've paid for and have no idea if the state will ever let them transfer to me. At this point, it's more about the possibility of losing the money than anything(for me). So yea I'll keep posting that the sky is falling until I hear otherwise. As far as I'm concerned.....it is. Oh and green....I use both of my cans on a weekly basis on my SBR's You don't lose your money if they can't transfer in! The dealer that has them will sell them for you- this happens more than you think! WOW, did not think about this....at all. I figured I would have had to try to sell them and lose money, if I was even able to sell them... You just stopped some more gray hairs forming on my head.
This is all Ive been thinking about since last week. Now I can literally sleep tonight The details would have to be worked out betwixt you and the dealer for the Mg's. Easiest way to sell them would be to put an add on subguns or strum and let buyer know that dealer has the gun on a form 3- easy peasy! You don't lose money on mg's, but you might on cans- they don't hold value so well! |
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Posted: 6/26/2015 4:25:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh my god you can't make a sbr and you have to wait for suppressors. Big fucking deal. You can't use suppressors to hunt with, it's a bragging right. Yea I'd like to have one but it's a waste. They collect dust in the safe. And sbr...it's a cool factor. We should be able to have these items, but having to wait longer on top of the wait that you all already have, big deal. You don't need them tomorrow for cqb... And if you did you wouldn't fill paper work out to be legal. Relax. Sit back, and wait. It'll pan out. On the other note, I have serveral friends at the state and they said it isn't looking well for us at all. It's just step 1. If I told you what step 2 is that I know of, you wouldn't be freaking out of this little delema. |
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Posted: 6/26/2015 4:35:19 PM EDT
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Oh my god you can't make a sbr and you have to wait for suppressors. Big fucking deal. You can't use suppressors to hunt with, it's a bragging right. Yea I'd like to have one but it's a waste. They collect dust in the safe. And sbr...it's a cool factor. We should be able to have these items, but having to wait longer on top of the wait that you all already have, big deal. You don't need them tomorrow for cqb... And if you did you wouldn't fill paper work out to be legal. Relax. Sit back, and wait. It'll pan out. On the other note, I have serveral friends at the state and they said it isn't looking well for us at all. It's just step 1. If I told you what step 2 is that I know of, you wouldn't be freaking out of this little delema. This post smells like it is dipped in Fudd and delivered by a troll. I hope my sarcasm meter is off and I'm just reading this wrong. This is beyond unacceptable for and other situation where the public could invest tens of thousands of dollars,plus hundreds in fees, (collectively in the thousands as well) then hold all processes involved without notification to the consumers at all. The only similar circumstance I could come up with is if DMV let everyone buy cars for 9 months,pay tax and registration but instead of processing it,they ignore everyone not allowing them to take delivery or ownership. If that happened would it still be no big fucking deal? Or would it be a problem because it could affect anyone then? |
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Posted: 6/26/2015 4:58:11 PM EDT
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^Yep how could it have happened without any notification.
At least if the SA said, "hey everyone, hang on for a couple weeks while we sort this out, and then you'll be back up and running", we would have a freaking clue as to whats going on. The way this has happened, its like they're straight up just fcuking us, and we dont know why or just how ribbed its gonna be. |
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Posted: 6/26/2015 5:59:00 PM EDT
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I don't see how the state has to but "things on hold" at least in regards to cans. There is no law that prevents owner ship, hence they have no basis to create a "hold".
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Posted: 6/26/2015 5:59:00 PM EDT
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See, this I can understand. But for the people just wanting a can or sbr, relax. There's nothing we can do and pestering the ATF and state most likely won't help us any. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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^ I think he's just busting balls
But in all seriousness, I understand some of you guys are saying who cares, don't worry...but honestly I have about 12k sitting in limbo right now.....I'm fucking pissed, and a little nervous. Yea cans and SBR's are one thing but I have 2 MGs that I've paid for and have no idea if the state will ever let them transfer to me. At this point, it's more about the possibility of losing the money than anything(for me). So yea I'll keep posting that the sky is falling until I hear otherwise. As far as I'm concerned.....it is. Oh and green....I use both of my cans on a weekly basis on my SBR's See, this I can understand. But for the people just wanting a can or sbr, relax. There's nothing we can do and pestering the ATF and state most likely won't help us any. $296 Silencer Shop for Griffin Checkmate. $50 Transfer Fee to Delta. $200 Transfer Tax to ATF. Being told by random ATF employees that transfers may be permanently prohibited to CT, and not having any other solid information. Even if it is cleared up, CT Transfers are now at the end of the line, in a system that routinely takes 4+months to clear. All this adds up to major investment in time and money (and my investment is peanuts compared to many), and it has a possibility of never even happening. So I really don't care to hear that I should just relax. I have followed all the laws, paid all the fees, complied with the system, and don't care to have some anonymous bureaucrat screw with me just because they can. If the State had any interest in fair and impartial enforcement of the law, they would make an announcement to clarify what is going on. Has anyone heard ANYTHING from the state? No! We all just found out about it when people called ATF to check on pending transfers. If the ATF had any interest in the fair and impartial enforcement of the law, they would release an official statement, instead of allowing individual ATF employees spread whatever rumor they want to. Pestering ATF and the state, is the only way we will find out anything. Whatever their plan is, they are not sharing it now. A temporary freeze could end today, or years from now (if at all). In any event, I do not plan to sit quietly in the back of the bus, and wait patiently. |
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Posted: 6/26/2015 6:02:52 PM EDT
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Oh my god you can't make a sbr and you have to wait for suppressors. Big fucking deal. You can't use suppressors to hunt with, it's a bragging right. Yea I'd like to have one but it's a waste. They collect dust in the safe. And sbr...it's a cool factor. We should be able to have these items, but having to wait longer on top of the wait that you all already have, big deal. You don't need them tomorrow for cqb... And if you did you wouldn't fill paper work out to be legal. Relax. Sit back, and wait. It'll pan out. On the other note, I have serveral friends at the state and they said it isn't looking well for us at all. It's just step 1. If I told you what step 2 is that I know of, you wouldn't be freaking out of this little delema.
You have to understand regardless your view that people have thousands of dollars either payed out or that have hit their credit cards. We are paying for items or have payed for items that we have not yet received. |
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Posted: 6/26/2015 6:06:08 PM EDT
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You don't lose your money if they can't transfer in! The dealer that has them will sell them for you- this happens more than you think! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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^ I think he's just busting balls
But in all seriousness, I understand some of you guys are saying who cares, don't worry...but honestly I have about 12k sitting in limbo right now.....I'm fucking pissed, and a little nervous. Yea cans and SBR's are one thing but I have 2 MGs that I've paid for and have no idea if the state will ever let them transfer to me. At this point, it's more about the possibility of losing the money than anything(for me). So yea I'll keep posting that the sky is falling until I hear otherwise. As far as I'm concerned.....it is. Oh and green....I use both of my cans on a weekly basis on my SBR's You don't lose your money if they can't transfer in! The dealer that has them will sell them for you- this happens more than you think! I have two cans that transferred into CT the end of last month. Now they are sitting at a CT dealer in limbo. He won't be able to sell them locally if the shoe drops on NFA items. He will have to sell them out of state some how for me. Not looking forward to this possibility. |
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Posted: 6/26/2015 6:22:39 PM EDT
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Really there is no reason the state should have stopped transfers, unless there is some alteriere motive.
We're allowed to sbr postban registered receivers. We're allowed to register prebans as long as we register them with the state. No problems so far. We're allowed by state law to purchase firearm supressors. We are allowed to purchase MG's provided they are not select fire by state law. What the hell is being questioned, and what is the hold for? This is our elected officials saying fcuk you to firearm owners, that's all I gather from this. Oh and voting for these people doesn't matter. Not when elections are rigged/predetermined. |
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Posted: 6/26/2015 6:28:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/26/2015 6:33:23 PM EDT
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If you're not kidding, what is step 2? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Oh my god you can't make a sbr and you have to wait for suppressors. Big fucking deal. You can't use suppressors to hunt with, it's a bragging right. Yea I'd like to have one but it's a waste. They collect dust in the safe. And sbr...it's a cool factor. We should be able to have these items, but having to wait longer on top of the wait that you all already have, big deal. You don't need them tomorrow for cqb... And if you did you wouldn't fill paper work out to be legal. Relax. Sit back, and wait. It'll pan out. On the other note, I have serveral friends at the state and they said it isn't looking well for us at all. It's just step 1. If I told you what step 2 is that I know of, you wouldn't be freaking out of this little delema.
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Posted: 6/26/2015 6:35:09 PM EDT
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THe state is changing shit behind the scenes. They want to see what they can get away with. Bans on whatever, freezes on transfers, lists of firearms that are allowed and disallowed for sale that are more extensive than ever........they aren't going to make anything public ahead of time this time around.
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Posted: 6/26/2015 6:36:19 PM EDT
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Really there is no reason the state should have stopped transfers, unless there is some alteriere motive. We're allowed to sbr postban registered receivers. We're allowed to register prebans as long as we register them with the state. No problems so far. We're allowed by state law to purchase firearm supressors. We are allowed to purchase MG's provided they are not select fire by state law. What the hell is being questioned, and what is the hold for? This is our elected officials saying fcuk you to firearm owners, that's all I gather from this. Oh and voting for these people doesn't matter. Not when elections are rigged/predetermined. Learning from Obama. Malloy has his own phone and pen!  
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Posted: 6/26/2015 6:37:00 PM EDT
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Oh my god you can't make a sbr and you have to wait for suppressors. Big fucking deal. You can't use suppressors to hunt with, it's a bragging right. Yea I'd like to have one but it's a waste. They collect dust in the safe. And sbr...it's a cool factor. We should be able to have these items, but having to wait longer on top of the wait that you all already have, big deal. You don't need them tomorrow for cqb... And if you did you wouldn't fill paper work out to be legal. Relax. Sit back, and wait. It'll pan out. On the other note, I have serveral friends at the state and they said it isn't looking well for us at all. It's just step 1. If I told you what step 2 is that I know of, you wouldn't be freaking out of this little delema.
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