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Posted: 5/30/2016 10:16:22 PM EDT
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Suppressor bill just passed committee 8-5 in our favor and has been reported to the House. fuck yea |
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Posted: 5/30/2016 10:17:11 PM EDT
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We were told that about the CCL law, and the SBR law... What will end up happening is a crappy law such that the ATF decides to really restrict what suppressors if any can be approved in Illinois much as they have with SBRs. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think it is handguns only on the range for now. That stinks. Still way better than nothing though. We were told that about the CCL law, and the SBR law... What will end up happening is a crappy law such that the ATF decides to really restrict what suppressors if any can be approved in Illinois much as they have with SBRs. We live in IL. You have to be practical about it. We're very fortunate we have a shall issue CCW law. Holding out for the perfect CCW law would have been stupid. Other states had crappy CCW laws at first and they were gradually improved. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 5/30/2016 10:52:48 PM EDT
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We live in IL. You have to be practical about it. We're very fortunate we have a shall issue CCW law. Holding out for the perfect CCW law would have been stupid. Other states had crappy CCW laws at first and they were gradually improved. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think it is handguns only on the range for now. That stinks. Still way better than nothing though. We were told that about the CCL law, and the SBR law... What will end up happening is a crappy law such that the ATF decides to really restrict what suppressors if any can be approved in Illinois much as they have with SBRs. We live in IL. You have to be practical about it. We're very fortunate we have a shall issue CCW law. Holding out for the perfect CCW law would have been stupid. Other states had crappy CCW laws at first and they were gradually improved. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Ill take them for pistols first.......... 
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Posted: 5/31/2016 7:57:37 PM EDT
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SB 206 HFA 2 is being debated right now in the House. Rep. Davis is asking a bunch of stupid anti-gun questions of Rep. Phelps.
Live audio/video here: http://www.ilga.gov/house/audvid.asp# |
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Posted: 5/31/2016 8:09:59 PM EDT
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SB206 just passed.
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Posted: 5/31/2016 8:11:54 PM EDT
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SB206 just passed. 69 yes, 46 no. Back to the Senate for concurrence. Woot! |
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Posted: 5/31/2016 8:19:05 PM EDT
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69 yes, 46 no. Back to the Senate for concurrence. Woot! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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SB206 just passed. 69 yes, 46 no. Back to the Senate for concurrence. Woot! I'll wait until we see how ATF will interpret the language before I get too excited. |
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Posted: 5/31/2016 8:31:55 PM EDT
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ASA posted it on Facebook and it's not the clearest, but you can see who voted which way:
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Posted: 5/31/2016 8:33:34 PM EDT
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I am already researching cans.... so for those of us not familiar with the process, what are the next steps for the bill to become law?
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Posted: 5/31/2016 8:39:26 PM EDT
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I am already researching cans.... so for those of us not familiar with the process, what are the next steps for the bill to become law? The shortest path: The bill goes back to the Senate because it was a originally a Senate bill that was amended by the house. The Senate must concur, which will make the bill passed by both houses. Gov. Rauner must then sign the bill into law. I'm sure there could be complicating factors. I don't know what would happen if the Senate passed its own amendment, for instance. If this is even possible, I don't know. Maybe the Senate has to just do an up-or-down vote on the concurrence and that's it. |
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Posted: 5/31/2016 8:44:47 PM EDT
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The shortest path: The bill goes back to the Senate because it was a originally a Senate bill that was amended by the house. The Senate must concur, which will make the bill passed by both houses. Gov. Rauner must then sign the bill into law. I'm sure there could be complicating factors. I don't know what would happen if the Senate passed its own amendment, for instance. If this is even possible, I don't know. Maybe the Senate has to just do an up-or-down vote on the concurrence and that's it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I am already researching cans.... so for those of us not familiar with the process, what are the next steps for the bill to become law? The shortest path: The bill goes back to the Senate because it was a originally a Senate bill that was amended by the house. The Senate must concur, which will make the bill passed by both houses. Gov. Rauner must then sign the bill into law. I'm sure there could be complicating factors. I don't know what would happen if the Senate passed its own amendment, for instance. If this is even possible, I don't know. Maybe the Senate has to just do an up-or-down vote on the concurrence and that's it. thanks! are we looking at another year before its all said and done? |
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Posted: 5/31/2016 8:50:43 PM EDT
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Who had to suck Madigan's dick to get him to vote yes?
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Posted: 5/31/2016 8:55:20 PM EDT
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Any idea when it would take effect once passed?
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Posted: 5/31/2016 9:01:31 PM EDT
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I believe it's immediate once signed into law.
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Posted: 5/31/2016 9:02:18 PM EDT
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I believe it's immediate once signed into law. Whoa, that would be great. |
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Posted: 5/31/2016 9:05:27 PM EDT
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According to the amendment: "Effective immediately."
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Posted: 5/31/2016 9:17:43 PM EDT
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Sweet! Thanks guys.
Just when I was beginning to lose hope on suppressors in IL it looks like we may finally get them. 
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Posted: 5/31/2016 9:18:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ASA posted it on Facebook and it's not the clearest, but you can see who voted which way: https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13327525_1101726173226984_3046194135061946041_n.jpg?oh=5bed460ab4a42126cb6a41ce5d4c6a72&oe=57C616D2 |
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Posted: 5/31/2016 10:15:16 PM EDT
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Per Todd Vandermyde via Illinois Carry:
guys we are still at the capitol, the senate Presidnet and Kwame are holding the bill hostage we are working all the angles we can. more when I can start calling the senate presidents office and ask for a floor vote on concurance |
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Posted: 5/31/2016 11:14:34 PM EDT
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Maybe next session.
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Posted: 5/31/2016 11:50:01 PM EDT
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Per Todd Vandermyde via Illinois Carry: guys we are still at the capitol, the senate Presidnet and Kwame are holding the bill hostage we are working all the angles we can. more when I can start calling the senate presidents office and ask for a floor vote on concurance Take the time you need. I'll be broke ass once passed. |
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Posted: 6/1/2016 12:29:29 AM EDT
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30 minutes to go and it looks like Cullerton and Raoul win.
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Posted: 6/1/2016 12:34:52 AM EDT
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Cullerton just announced the Senate has concluded its business, but it will not adjourn until the House is done, as well.
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Posted: 6/1/2016 1:53:04 AM EDT
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well maybe in 6 months we'll all be back here at right at the beginning.
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Posted: 6/3/2016 12:54:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: well maybe in 6 months we'll all be back here at right at the beginning. |
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Posted: 6/4/2016 2:02:39 PM EDT
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SB206 isn't dead until the Senate ends its session. And the Senate can't end its session until the House ends its session. And the House can't do that until they approve a budget.
So thanks to our state's inability to pass a budget, SB206 is still in play until they either pass a budget, or until the new session starts.  
Call Culletron's office and politely ask him to call the SB206 for a vote. If he gets enough pressure it will happen. |
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Posted: 6/4/2016 2:53:19 PM EDT
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I'm over here wondering what Cullerton wants in trade to call it for a vote. I'm guessing HB1016 or something very similar.
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Posted: 6/4/2016 6:18:04 PM EDT
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I'm over here wondering what Cullerton wants in trade to call it for a vote. I'm guessing HB1016 or something very similar. Was this a bill hostage plan from the beginning? Why else would they have gotten a basically unanimous vote the first time through the Senate. Was the amendment really that different? edit: deleted link to votes cast before supressor language was added. Ed explains below Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 6/4/2016 7:06:17 PM EDT
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Was this a bill hostage plan from the beginning? Why else would they have gotten a basically unanimous vote the first time through the Senate. Was the amendment really that different? http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/votehistory/99/senate/09900SB0206_04232015_008000T.pdf Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm over here wondering what Cullerton wants in trade to call it for a vote. I'm guessing HB1016 or something very similar. Was this a bill hostage plan from the beginning? Why else would they have gotten a basically unanimous vote the first time through the Senate. Was the amendment really that different? http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/votehistory/99/senate/09900SB0206_04232015_008000T.pdf Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I hate this state! |
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Posted: 6/5/2016 1:41:10 AM EDT
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Was this a bill hostage plan from the beginning? Why else would they have gotten a basically unanimous vote the first time through the Senate. Was the amendment really that different? http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/votehistory/99/senate/09900SB0206_04232015_008000T.pdf Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm over here wondering what Cullerton wants in trade to call it for a vote. I'm guessing HB1016 or something very similar. Was this a bill hostage plan from the beginning? Why else would they have gotten a basically unanimous vote the first time through the Senate. Was the amendment really that different? http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/votehistory/99/senate/09900SB0206_04232015_008000T.pdf Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Yes, it was completely different. The original SB 206 was a minor technical change related to statutes of limitations. The Senate then amended it, replacing the original text with changes to the Illinois Controlled Substances Act. That is the version that originally passed the Senate unanimously in April 2015. The House, after receiving the bill from the Senate, amended it by gutting it and replacing it completely with the suppressor legislation. House Amendment 2 is what the House passed. This version of the bill then had to go back to the Senate to get them to concur with the House. That's where it stalled out. |
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Posted: 6/5/2016 2:03:09 AM EDT
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Yes, it was completely different. The original SB 206 was a minor technical change related to statutes of limitations. The Senate then amended it, replacing the original text with changes to the Illinois Controlled Substances Act. That is the version that originally passed the Senate unanimously in April 2015. The House, after receiving the bill from the Senate, amended it by gutting it and replacing it completely with the suppressor legislation. House Amendment 2 is what the House passed. This version of the bill then had to go back to the Senate to get them to concur with the House. That's where it stalled out. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm over here wondering what Cullerton wants in trade to call it for a vote. I'm guessing HB1016 or something very similar. Was this a bill hostage plan from the beginning? Why else would they have gotten a basically unanimous vote the first time through the Senate. Was the amendment really that different? http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/votehistory/99/senate/09900SB0206_04232015_008000T.pdf Yes, it was completely different. The original SB 206 was a minor technical change related to statutes of limitations. The Senate then amended it, replacing the original text with changes to the Illinois Controlled Substances Act. That is the version that originally passed the Senate unanimously in April 2015. The House, after receiving the bill from the Senate, amended it by gutting it and replacing it completely with the suppressor legislation. House Amendment 2 is what the House passed. This version of the bill then had to go back to the Senate to get them to concur with the House. That's where it stalled out. Thanks. I was away, had little access and had not caught up on everything. I thought the bill that originally pased senate was voted in 2016 and already had amendment with suppressor language. Looking closer at bill status tonight, I see that was actually a 2015 vote as you said. It makes more sense now Hopefully we can get them to let it come up for a vote during the summer sessions. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 6/6/2016 6:59:03 AM EDT
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What the libtards are saying
Dear Friend,
I wanted to reach out and give you an update on what happened in Springfield this past week. As you know, we had hoped to see a vote in the House of Representatives on HB 1016 – our Gun Dealer Licensing legislation. However, due to a dirty procedural maneuver by the other side, the House was unable to hold a fair vote on the bill this session. Although this is a setback, we now have a clear roadmap to pass this life saving measure moving forward. Stand with us to show your continued support for Gun Dealer Licensing by clicking here to take action. Despite 87% of Illinois voters supporting Gun Dealer Licensing the House of Representatives instead chose to cower before the corporate gun lobby and passed legislation last night what would allow for silencers on all guns in Illinois. We are currently doubling our efforts in the Illinois Senate to stop this dangerous and irresponsible legislation. Click here to see how your legislator voted. On a positive note, the General Assembly unanimously passed legislation that would increase penalties for individuals trafficking firearms onto our streets and killing innocent people. We applaud them on this effort and encourage the Governor to be responsible and sign this important piece of the legislation into law. We obviously have a lot of work ahead of us, but I wanted to bring you up to speed on what has been happening in Springfield. Together we will continue to go forward fighting for stronger gun violence prevention measures in Illinois. Thank you for your continued support. In Peace, Colleen Daley Executive Director P.S. – Tomorrow is National Gun Violence Awareness Day don’t forget to #WearOrange to show your support. "Silencers". Pew pew pew. Just like in the James Bond movies,
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Posted: 6/6/2016 11:12:23 AM EDT
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I don`t believe 87% of people in Illinois support gun dealer licensing, 87% of people in Illinois don`t even know this is going on. As far as silencers this is about education, people hear crap like that and they think you can just go out to Walmart and pick up a silencer.
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Posted: 6/6/2016 11:15:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don`t believe 87% of people in Illinois support gun dealer licensing, 87% of people in Illinois don`t even know this is going on. As far as silencers this is about education, people hear crap like that and they think you can just go out to Walmart and pick up a silencer. |
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Posted: 6/6/2016 5:52:54 PM EDT
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They are totally ignoring the witness slips... We put out 100 slips for every 1 of theirs and they still claim to have the public support. Lying assholes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don`t believe 87% of people in Illinois support gun dealer licensing, 87% of people in Illinois don`t even know this is going on. As far as silencers this is about education, people hear crap like that and they think you can just go out to Walmart and pick up a silencer. No that's the gun lobby.....don't tell me you didn't get ur check? 
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Posted: 6/6/2016 10:51:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No that's the gun lobby.....don't tell me you didn't get ur check? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I don`t believe 87% of people in Illinois support gun dealer licensing, 87% of people in Illinois don`t even know this is going on. As far as silencers this is about education, people hear crap like that and they think you can just go out to Walmart and pick up a silencer. No that's the gun lobby.....don't tell me you didn't get ur check?  |
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Posted: 6/6/2016 11:22:39 PM EDT
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Has everyone in this thread hit the link the Nra sent out last week and called Cullertons office?
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Posted: 6/7/2016 3:51:08 AM EDT
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Has everyone in this thread hit the link the Nra sent out last week and called Cullertons office? This one? https://act.nraila.org/takeaction.aspx?AlertID=253 I say keep bumping this thread with the link. |
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Posted: 6/7/2016 8:46:53 AM EDT
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This one? https://act.nraila.org/takeaction.aspx?AlertID=253 I say keep bumping this thread with the link. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Has everyone in this thread hit the link the Nra sent out last week and called Cullertons office? This one? https://act.nraila.org/takeaction.aspx?AlertID=253 I say keep bumping this thread with the link. That link will get you there. Here is another direct one as well https://www.nraila.org/articles/20160601/illinois-general-assembly-adjourns-from-its-2016-legislative-session-but-the-fight-is-not-over |
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Posted: 6/8/2016 4:06:55 AM EDT
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That link will get you there. Here is another direct one as well https://www.nraila.org/articles/20160601/illinois-general-assembly-adjourns-from-its-2016-legislative-session-but-the-fight-is-not-over Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Has everyone in this thread hit the link the Nra sent out last week and called Cullertons office? This one? https://act.nraila.org/takeaction.aspx?AlertID=253 I say keep bumping this thread with the link. That link will get you there. Here is another direct one as well https://www.nraila.org/articles/20160601/illinois-general-assembly-adjourns-from-its-2016-legislative-session-but-the-fight-is-not-over Awesome |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 10:52:08 PM EDT
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sent an email urging passage of this and got a response (maybe automated )
Thank you for your e-mail. SB206 is in the senate for a concurrence vote. The senate sponsor of the bill, Senator Raoul, is the only one that can call the bill for a vote. I will encourage him to call the bill an if he does I will be in support and vote yes. Thank you for contacting me. Sen. Tim Bivins Illinois State Senate, 45th District |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 8:02:38 AM EDT
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Thank you for your e-mail. SB206 is in the senate for a concurrence vote. The senate sponsor of the bill, Senator Raoul, is the only one that can call the bill for a vote. I will encourage him to call the bill an if he does I will be in support and vote yes.
Thank you for contacting me. Sen. Tim Bivins Illinois State Senate, 45th District This is an accurate assessment of the current situation. Raoul is very anti-gun. |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 10:49:30 AM EDT
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This is an accurate assessment of the current situation. Raoul is very anti-gun. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Thank you for your e-mail. SB206 is in the senate for a concurrence vote. The senate sponsor of the bill, Senator Raoul, is the only one that can call the bill for a vote. I will encourage him to call the bill an if he does I will be in support and vote yes.
Thank you for contacting me. Sen. Tim Bivins Illinois State Senate, 45th District This is an accurate assessment of the current situation. Raoul is very anti-gun. So, how dead is this bill? |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 4:34:06 PM EDT
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Thank you for your e-mail. SB206 is in the senate for a concurrence vote. The senate sponsor of the bill, Senator Raoul, is the only one that can call the bill for a vote. I will encourage him to call the bill an if he does I will be in support and vote yes.
Thank you for contacting me. Sen. Tim Bivins Illinois State Senate, 45th District This is an accurate assessment of the current situation. Raoul is very anti-gun. So, how dead is this bill? It got taken out back, shot in the head by a suppressed .22 and is now part of Comiskey Park. |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 4:54:08 PM EDT
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It got taken out back, shot in the head by a suppressed .22 and is now part of Comiskey Park. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thank you for your e-mail. SB206 is in the senate for a concurrence vote. The senate sponsor of the bill, Senator Raoul, is the only one that can call the bill for a vote. I will encourage him to call the bill an if he does I will be in support and vote yes.
Thank you for contacting me. Sen. Tim Bivins Illinois State Senate, 45th District This is an accurate assessment of the current situation. Raoul is very anti-gun. So, how dead is this bill? It got taken out back, shot in the head by a suppressed .22 and is now part of Comiskey Park. Yeah, it was a throwaway bill so that the southern IL dems could get a vote and say "we tried". They do the same with anti-gun bills. |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 6:21:33 PM EDT
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There are a lot of things in play but one of the most significant indicators is the Senate sponsor....
anything could happen but, now a super majority will be required for passage...should the bill get to the floor. |
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Posted: 6/25/2016 12:32:42 AM EDT
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Bump.
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Posted: 6/25/2016 8:39:39 AM EDT
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Very stalled in the Senate.
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Posted: 6/29/2016 12:55:23 AM EDT
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They meet today (6/29) but am very doubtful it gets brought up.
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Posted: 6/29/2016 2:39:13 PM EDT
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They meet today (6/29) but am very doubtful it gets brought up. i doubt it will even be thought of being brought up today. the senate is wasting so much time on idiotic bullshit resolutions. been listening to them talk about 1 res for atleast 30 mins. completely pointless and yet they still get paid today |
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