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Posted: 3/8/2005 12:36:00 PM EDT
UPDATE

Just spent an hour on the phone with Phil.

Here are the highlights:

We don't need frangible pistol ammo. The traps can withstand pistol rounds.

We need a minimum of 500 rounds rifle, 150 pistol and 100 rounds rifle frangible.

You must have a rifle mounted light and a tactical sling. I prefer three point.

You must bring all food and drink with you. There is not going to be an opportunity to leave to go find food.

This class is going to be physically and mentally demanding. Be prepared for both.

Have your rifle zeroed with either a 50 or 100 yard zero before the class.

Saturday will start with square range drills then move to moving targets, team movement and shooting from a vehicle at night.

Sunday will all be in the shoot house. It will start with covert movement to contact then progress to dynamic entries.

I personally know all of you in this class and I believe you all have the ability to hold up to this level of stress. If not, let me know now and we will find someone to take your spot.

This is going to be the best $95 you have ever spent on training.

Phil is hardcore and will eat you for lunch so be up for the task and we will all have a great time.


1- LEO AZCOP
2- LEO ARIZSIG
3- notgrownupyetSBR556
4- innocent_bystander
5- MarkM
6- a320az
7- SlapIron
8- cat-machanic
9- Artful
10- Lt Ranger Mike
11- Colt-653
12- SailorDude




Alternates:


1- redbone
2- mudbug





Link Posted: 3/8/2005 12:52:32 PM EDT
[#1]
What would qualify as being 'qualified'?  I have taken been through many carbine classes, but not one through the college.   Would that be 'qualified'?

I'd be interested to attend.  

Let me know, thank you..
Link Posted: 3/8/2005 1:23:12 PM EDT
[#2]
This class is going to be available to students in the following order:

1- active duty LEO

2- former students of Phil Hayes Patrol Rifle

3- former students of GCC Patrol Rifle

4- students of other schools like Gunsite and Thunder Ranch

I'll confirm with Phil but this class will probably be limited to 12-15 students.
Link Posted: 3/8/2005 1:41:06 PM EDT
[#3]
Count me in. Let me know where to sign up.
Link Posted: 3/8/2005 1:57:11 PM EDT
[#4]
Count me in. Thanks.
Link Posted: 3/8/2005 2:00:02 PM EDT
[#5]
e-mail sent
Link Posted: 3/8/2005 2:11:15 PM EDT
[#6]
w00t!
Link Posted: 3/8/2005 4:43:52 PM EDT
[#7]
YES.

And once again i second that

WOOT!

Link Posted: 3/8/2005 4:53:41 PM EDT
[#8]
Link Posted: 3/8/2005 5:56:05 PM EDT
[#9]
Game On !!!!!!!

Jay
Link Posted: 3/8/2005 5:57:01 PM EDT
[#10]
We must have one LEO in the class. I'm waiting on confirmation from him.

Tentative dates are April 16-17 from Noon-9:00 PM. Saturday may run late.

Class will be limited to 12 people.
Link Posted: 3/8/2005 6:01:51 PM EDT
[#11]
So this time Jason you take the pictures - What's the cost going to be?  
Link Posted: 3/8/2005 6:32:28 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
So this time Jason you take the pictures - What's the cost going to be?  



Should be the same as any other class from GCC at $95.

Frangible ammo is a little pricey and you'll need at least 100 rounds.
Link Posted: 3/8/2005 6:56:19 PM EDT
[#13]
From the bad experence department:
Don't buy PMC frang ammo.
Winchester frang is very good.

Jason,
Check on pistol frang for transitions in the house.

Jay
Link Posted: 3/8/2005 7:21:50 PM EDT
[#14]
Ammoman has USGI frangible .223 ammo.
Link Posted: 3/8/2005 7:28:17 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:


Jason,
Check on pistol frang for transitions in the house.

Jay



I'll have to confirm with Phil but he gave me the impression standard pistol ammo was OK in the house.
Link Posted: 3/9/2005 4:29:31 AM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:

I'll have to confirm with Phil but he gave me the impression standard pistol ammo was OK in the house hizzzzouse.



fixed!
Link Posted: 3/9/2005 6:27:50 AM EDT
[#17]
As long as it's after 4/15, I'm in.

SD
Link Posted: 3/9/2005 6:39:09 AM EDT
[#18]
See first post.
Link Posted: 3/9/2005 7:31:07 AM EDT
[#19]
Link Posted: 3/9/2005 7:51:59 AM EDT
[#20]
Whoa... what happened? I didn't know we had a chance to register yet.

Link Posted: 3/9/2005 8:18:12 AM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
Whoa... what happened? I didn't know we had a chance to register yet.




We haven't registered yet. Phil told me to come up with 12 qualified people with at least one LEO and the class would be a go. Jerry said he would do the admin stuff to make it happen. That's were we are now. Waiting for the admin stuff from Jerry. If something opens up I'll let you know.
Link Posted: 3/9/2005 10:13:05 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:



bigtime!!!
Link Posted: 3/9/2005 6:54:58 PM EDT
[#23]
Jerry just emailed me and said as soon as he gets back in town he will submit the paperwork and give me the super double secret section numbers to register. I will then pass them on to everyone on the list.
Link Posted: 3/9/2005 7:09:05 PM EDT
[#24]
Group buy on frangible ammo???

I_B, Did you find out if we need pistol frangible yet?
Link Posted: 3/9/2005 11:11:48 PM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:
Group buy on frangible ammo???

I_B, Did you find out if we need pistol frangible yet?



I was thinking the same thing. ammoman has frang for 159$/500 or 250$/840

Rob
Link Posted: 3/9/2005 11:18:20 PM EDT
[#26]
hmmm

ETA: I don't see my name.
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 4:48:37 AM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:
hmmm

ETA: I don't see my name.



You never chimed in. Do you want your name on the alternate list?

I'm really bummed there aren't more slots. Phil originally said 10 and I bumped him up to 12. He said beyond that there would be long delays while running people through the shoot house.

Still checking on the need for frangible pistol ammo.
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 7:19:33 AM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:
You never chimed in. Do you want your name on the alternate list?




Yup.
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 11:13:30 AM EDT
[#29]
The last class had 4 people that just didn't show up for the class, they didn't call to drop out so that others could get a chance. That's bullshit.

So if you sign up and can't make it, call and cancel so that others can fill your slot.
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 12:13:13 PM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
The last class had 4 people that just didn't show up for the class, they didn't call to drop out so that others could get a chance. That's bullshit.

So if you sign up and can't make it, call and cancel so that others can fill your slot.



Those were probably people that aren't members here.
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 12:20:31 PM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The last class had 4 people that just didn't show up for the class, they didn't call to drop out so that others could get a chance. That's bullshit.

So if you sign up and can't make it, call and cancel so that others can fill your slot.



Those were probably people that aren't members here.



Actually, a couple were members here.
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 1:51:00 PM EDT
[#32]
Yup, we had 18 of the 20 show up. The two that didn't were Colt-653 and notgrownupyetSBR556.

The class was still full when I checked Thursday. I was going to post any new openings. They must have dropped after that.

I'm not going to let that happen this time.
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 2:55:31 PM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:
Yup, we had 18 of the 20 show up. The two that didn't were Colt-653 and notgrownupyetSBR556.

The class was still full when I checked Thursday. I was going to post any new openings. They must have dropped after that.

I'm not going to let that happen this time.



That's right, 18 the first day and only 16 the second day (one had a weapon problem, and I guess one didn't like the weather)

So the only 2 that didn't show at all were AZ-Arfcomers.
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 3:35:47 PM EDT
[#34]
Guys, I had dropped on wednesday.

I couldnt post here because of modum problems.

Was my name still on the list for the class on saturday?

Paul.

I am sorry that someone else couldn't get into my slot last weekend.
Beleive me I missed not getting to play in the rain and hail with you guys.  
That would have been a hoot.


Link Posted: 3/10/2005 4:59:41 PM EDT
[#35]
Everyone hold off on ordering frangible ammo until we get the numbers from Jerry and are sure the class is a go and I talk to Phil to see if we need frangible pistol as well.
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 5:02:37 PM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:
Everyone hold off on ordering frangible ammo until we get the numbers from Jerry and are sure the class is a go and I talk to Phil to see if we need frangible pistol as well.




DUDE!!!!

UPS Just Dropped off 5000 rounds!
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 5:51:48 PM EDT
[#37]

Quoted:
Everyone hold off on ordering frangible ammo until we get the numbers from Jerry and are sure the class is a go and I talk to Phil to see if we need frangible pistol as well.



Standing By.
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 7:18:52 PM EDT
[#38]
MarkM if you need to sell some, I'm sure we can find people that use it.  I've never tried it so I would take some off your hands just to play with it.
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 1:17:45 PM EDT
[#39]
Jerry just emailed me. We should have the super double secret numbers by this evening or Monday at the latest. Once I get registered and it works I'll IM everyone the numbers.

Link Posted: 3/11/2005 1:21:29 PM EDT
[#40]
I hate that I missed this thread till it was too late, I was soooooo looking forward to this class. I despise all of you for being more attentive than I am.
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 1:58:52 PM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:
Jerry just emailed me. We should have the super double secret numbers by this evening or Monday at the latest. Once I get registered and it works I'll IM everyone the numbers.




w00t!
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 2:03:27 PM EDT
[#42]
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 3:19:23 PM EDT
[#43]
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 5:41:49 PM EDT
[#44]

Quoted:
I hate that I missed this thread till it was too late, I was soooooo looking forward to this class. I despise all of you for being more attentive than I am.



Me too. I thought those of us who were students of Phil's in the last class would have had seniority since it's kind of a part 2 to his class.
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 5:45:30 PM EDT
[#45]
Mini-14 guys should be priority students!
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 5:53:44 PM EDT
[#46]

Quoted:
Mini-14 guys should be priority students!



I have a mini-30 and 4 30 round clips is that good enough
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:11:50 PM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Mini-14 guys should be priority students!



I have a mini-30 and 4 30 round clips is that good enough



To disqualify you.... I claim his spot...
Link Posted: 3/12/2005 7:00:00 AM EDT
[#48]
Jerry didn't get the numbers from GCC admin yesterday. Hopefully, Monday we can start to register.

Jerry said that when you call to register they will tell you the class is closed. You are to say that it is restricted and you are one of the 12 allowed to enroll. They should then sign you up. I will give you Jerry's cell phone number and he said they could call him to confirm.
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 3:14:10 PM EDT
[#49]
One of the LEOs can't make it.

notgrownupyetSBR556 now has a spot.
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 5:19:27 PM EDT
[#50]
YES.

Thank you.

See you all there.

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