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Posted: 5/11/2015 3:16:14 PM EDT
I kinda want one but cant decide weather I want the pistol or the rifle what are the pros and cons which model should I get and do they take surplus GI mags, I am leaning towards the 1927/8 so I can use the drum. Not entirety sure why I want one but I do!
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[#1]
I've had one since the late 1990's. Works great YMMV.
As for the pistol vs the rifle, it's totally up to you. I have the rifle and am in the process of SBRing it.(what took so long, right). Pistol would be cheaper to SBR but there was no pistol when I bought my rifle. USGI mags will not work 100% of the time without modification to either the magazine (frowned upon) or the magazine catch (better solution) USGI wood stocks will fit except for the front handguard which would need to be open up some. Replacing the springs is usually something folks suggest to do right away to ease the pull of the cocking handle. I just leave my bolt in the open position for storage. I also rounded off all the sharp edges and had it parkerized. |
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[#2]
Having shot the drum @ the old NRA DC range, I can't recommend the drum - it tends to slide out of place & jam. The sticks are much more reliable - but that was a sample size of one. Always seemed the aluminum framed models would be more practical. Also seemed the ergos were too wrong for my nose - kept getting bopped.
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[#3]
thanks guys, were would I find the springs for the replacement to ease the cocking?
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[#4]
They are heavy pigs, and the novelty wears off pretty quickly.........one gun I definitely don't regret selling......
Just my experience. I had the 1928 model. Might have felt different if it was SBRd but I doubt it. |
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[#5]
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They are heavy pigs, and the novelty wears off pretty quickly.........one gun I definitely don't regret selling...... View Quote My experience as well. Once everybody admires the "Thompson," the thrill is gone and you're left wondering why you're trying to hit something with this heavy-ass PCC. If you ever get to handle a real Thompson like the early ones made by Colt, you'll forget all about the "Thompson" made by what is called Auto Ordinance. That is precisely what happened to me. |
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[#10]
You can use a full auto lower but it will need some slight machine work to be done for the semi auto upper to fit. The semi-auto internals all fit as well.
If you do get the semi M1927 version the lowers are all over the place. The fire select can be modified as a bolt hold open to make loading of a drum easier as well. |
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[#11]
Thank you what type of work are we talking about? I think it would be neat to have a real original lower but this is a new weapon for me and I don't know anything about them, also I want to stay compliant with all those silly laws LOL but I have decided on the pistol. Just need to sell a few AK's to fund this!
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[#12]
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They are heavy pigs, and the novelty wears off pretty quickly.........one gun I definitely don't regret selling...... Just my experience. I had the 1928 model. Might have felt different if it was SBRd but I doubt it. View Quote More or less my experience too. I got one about 5 yrs ago. It was cool and very accurate. However, the novelty wore off fairly soon. Disassembly and cleaning was a hassle also. I was able to sell it for a little more than I had in it so worked well for me, but unless I had a 'real' full auto Tommy, I scratched my itch. |
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[#14]
I would go with the short barreled version with the detachable stock that is available from the factory.
Lots of info about the semi version on the web. |
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[#16]
I've owned an AO TA5 tommy gun pistol, TM1C rifle and a West-Hurley A5. All mine had the aluminum receivers, so weight wasn't an issue.
The A5 is unique in that it's a sort-of pistol, with the VFG. It has a 13" barrel with a total length of just over 26". That makes it an "other" firearm, and perfectly legal to have a VFG. Just no stock. They appear on Gunbroker occasionally. They haven't been made since the early 90s. I sold all of my Thompsons, mostly because I needed the cash. I'd like another one, this time either a 1927 rifle model or another A5. |
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[#17]
I really, really REALLY want one, I would have to smuggle it and mags up here though, they were too scary looking so are banned by name
One day maybe |
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[#18]
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Thank you what type of work are we talking about? I think it would be neat to have a real original lower but this is a new weapon for me and I don't know anything about them, also I want to stay compliant with all those silly laws LOL but I have decided on the pistol. Just need to sell a few AK's to fund this! View Quote Better choice with a pistol Especially if you want to SBR it down the road. There's a handful of folks of folks in the country who work on them, if that. |
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[#19]
Quoted: I really, really REALLY want one, I would have to smuggle it and mags up here though, they were too scary looking so are banned by name
One day maybe View Quote Someone built an AR upper w/ side-feeding Thompson mags, and spiral cooling fins on the bbl, as well as a Thompson foregrip. Are you still allowed to have ARs? |
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[#21]
My Ta5 pistol bump fire perfectly, Yes I did it with the 50 round drum!! It was a pleasure to shoot but having the 10" barrel on it already and being in Az the SBR route is a no brainer for me. I do like the horizontal forgrip but comparing it to the vertical I actually prefer the horizontal one for ego reasons. I will replicate the early 21's w/o the Cutts compinsator, just my taste but over all I am happy with my purchase! Highly recommended.
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Took mine out yesterday it was a blast for sure SBR is coming drum ran flawless with 230grn ball and the stick mag conversion was cake. <a href="http://s942.photobucket.com/user/patiance4you/media/DSCN1792.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad264/patiance4you/DSCN1792.jpg</a> View Quote awesome pic .....love the smile Shame no one keeps that range area nice.. like racking up the spent stuff. |
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[#25]
Man those pics are making me even more antsy waiting for my paperwork to come through!!
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[#27]
Just wondering where did you have your work done on the SBR Thompsons also what did it cost? I am about 1 month away from getting mine approved to SBR it
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[#28]
I have a Kahr TM1 that I bought back in 1998. I put in to SBR it in April.
I found a guy who does a lot of the semi Thompson work on the machinegun boards. His forum name is Deerslayer. Looks like it will run around $500 for the barrel swap, new handguard bracket, dummy auto selector, modifying the magazine release, repairing the modified magazines and engraving. It was just a rough quote. That is also with him providing all the parts. The only thing I've done to mine is taking a die grinder to it and smoothing out all the sharp edges then getting it parkerized. I also added USGI wood to it. |
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[#29]
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My experience as well. Once everybody admires the "Thompson," the thrill is gone and you're left wondering why you're trying to hit something with this heavy-ass PCC. If you ever get to handle a real Thompson like the early ones made by Colt, you'll forget all about the "Thompson" made by what is called Auto Ordinance. That is precisely what happened to me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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They are heavy pigs, and the novelty wears off pretty quickly.........one gun I definitely don't regret selling...... My experience as well. Once everybody admires the "Thompson," the thrill is gone and you're left wondering why you're trying to hit something with this heavy-ass PCC. If you ever get to handle a real Thompson like the early ones made by Colt, you'll forget all about the "Thompson" made by what is called Auto Ordinance. That is precisely what happened to me. Yep, happy as hell to sell mine and never looked back. You want a historic PCC then look for an Uzi, HK94, or Sterling carbine. |
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Yep, happy as hell to sell mine and never looked back. You want a historic PCC then look for an Uzi, HK94, or Sterling carbine. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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They are heavy pigs, and the novelty wears off pretty quickly.........one gun I definitely don't regret selling...... My experience as well. Once everybody admires the "Thompson," the thrill is gone and you're left wondering why you're trying to hit something with this heavy-ass PCC. If you ever get to handle a real Thompson like the early ones made by Colt, you'll forget all about the "Thompson" made by what is called Auto Ordinance. That is precisely what happened to me. Yep, happy as hell to sell mine and never looked back. You want a historic PCC then look for an Uzi, HK94, or Sterling carbine. None of those would look right in my jeep though. |
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[#31]
The heavy carbine aside with that horrible long barrel once you SBR them they are an entirely new gun and a fun weapon to enjoy. I went the pistol route and waiting on my paperwork. Cant wait to get it and really enjoy this gun more than I do now.
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[#32]
Bought the M1 factory SBR. Definitely a fun rifle to shoot. Got a good price on it, so made it less of a burden. I got a good deal on a factory 27 SBR too which the form 4s are being mailed tomorrow on. Not the most practical gun I own but a cool piece and fun to shoot for a 45 semi. Gets a lot of looks at the range
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[#33]
If you SBR them, don't pay anyone to rebarrel it, do it yourself. They are almost as easy as an AR...maybe easier. I did mine, with much fear and loathing, and was surprised at how easy it was.
Pad the receiver and clamp it in a vise, put an old belt over the barrel and work it out with a set of vice grips. Drift out the grip hanger AFTER the barrel is out (if you want to replace it with a G.I. 1/2 inch one), and reverse the process with the new barrel. I used a slide on front sight, so I didn't have to worry about timing it, and then drill pressed a hole for the pin, and off I went. Much easier than it sounds. |
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[#34]
Agreed it does seem a lot easier that what people make it out to be some want an arm and a leg to do it for you.
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[#35]
Waiting on my beloved stamp for this this. So far I have put 1500 or so rounds down range with it no issues at all, the drum has been 100% reliable as well. The soft clicks and the loud ones when winding were interesting to get used to but it works!
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[#36]
the soft clicks are a rivet or two, they can be dremeled on a little. that makes the soft clicks pretty much invisible.
just pop the retainer on the back side and disassemble the drum, then you should be able to see the two rivets. |
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[#38]
Ive had mine 10 years.its heavy,but I really like shooting it.not sbr.everyone likes to shoot it.its very accurate.ive hit beer bottles at 150 yards with it.believe it or not,lol.i would def buy another one.
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[#40]
Shoot it enough and you can run them like a boss and smoke dudes with AR's and laugh at everyone that say they are heavy.
Takes 6-800 rounds of running them hard... once you break 1k the things are nothing to handle. |
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If you SBR them, don't pay anyone to rebarrel it, do it yourself. They are almost as easy as an AR...maybe easier. I did mine, with much fear and loathing, and was surprised at how easy it was. Pad the receiver and clamp it in a vise, put an old belt over the barrel and work it out with a set of vice grips. Drift out the grip hanger AFTER the barrel is out (if you want to replace it with a G.I. 1/2 inch one), and reverse the process with the new barrel. I used a slide on front sight, so I didn't have to worry about timing it, and then drill pressed a hole for the pin, and off I went. Much easier than it sounds. View Quote Zamo, You are not accepting IM's. Any way you can turn it on so I can get some details about the barrel you used? |
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[#43]
I like mine. A lot. I've had it for several years. Everyone who shoots it loves it and can't believe how accurate it is. I bought tthe 1927 deluxe model, but now outfitted it with a horizontal grip because the look and handling is much better. It's so accurate and recoil is so negligible that it's almost boring. I don't mess with the drum mag very much, but they're a must-have because everyone always wants a picture with one!
If I had it to do over again, I would go with an SBR. In fact, I'm going to probably stamp mine some day. |
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[#44]
Mine is on the way back from the engraver right now. Since I went the SBR route I decided to have the military markings engraved so it goes with my WWII jeep. Once it's done I will post some pics.
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[#45]
For those of you who swapped the 16" barrel for a 10.5" yourself, did you have to head space it? If so where did you get the head space gages? And who has finned 10.5" barrels in stock?
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[#47]
not so much head spaced, just a matter of getting the front sight dovetail in the 12 O'clock position.
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[#48]
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not so much head spaced, just a matter of getting the front sight dovetail in the 12 O'clock position. View Quote I don't think that will be a problem as the 10.5" barrel that I will be using does not have a threaded muzzle. I am going with the ring style sight that is pressed on and then drilled and cross pinned. |
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[#49]
How easy is it to convert one of the 16inch 1928s over to an sbr or should I just get a form4 one from the factory
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[#50]
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My experience as well. Once everybody admires the "Thompson," the thrill is gone and you're left wondering why you're trying to hit something with this heavy-ass PCC. If you ever get to handle a real Thompson like the early ones made by Colt, you'll forget all about the "Thompson" made by what is called Auto Ordinance. That is precisely what happened to me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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They are heavy pigs, and the novelty wears off pretty quickly.........one gun I definitely don't regret selling...... My experience as well. Once everybody admires the "Thompson," the thrill is gone and you're left wondering why you're trying to hit something with this heavy-ass PCC. If you ever get to handle a real Thompson like the early ones made by Colt, you'll forget all about the "Thompson" made by what is called Auto Ordinance. That is precisely what happened to me. Yep... |
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