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Posted: 5/12/2017 10:31:49 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTUtah:
On a 16" barrel, it won't beat the baffles too much, according to most. My gripe with the Vortex is the tuning-fork ringing. |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 1:02:38 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTUtah:
On a 16" barrel, it won't beat the baffles too much, according to most. My gripe with the Vortex is the tuning-fork ringing. |
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SOM
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Posted: 5/13/2017 2:23:01 AM EDT
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I actually don't mind it all that much, considering that I bought the flash hider for it's performance. It does hide flash very, very well.
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Posted: 5/13/2017 2:21:31 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By boltcatch:
I actually don't mind it all that much, considering that I bought the flash hider for it's performance. It does hide flash very, very well. So do Allen Engineering suppressors  
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/23/2017 4:47:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Temper]
[#5]
I figure there's no better place to ask but here. I came across Lilja 18" middy for cheap and I figure instead of building a Mk12 Mod1 like I originally intended, I have the barrel cut to 17" and put on my brake and collar on that and rock a RECCE style build. Now here's the question. I already have the brake and long collar for the mk12, can I use that same collar on the lilja? It appears to be govt profile, maybe a tad heavier underneath the handguards.
Edit: Solved. You can with no issues. |
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ME, USA
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Posted: 5/25/2017 10:53:55 PM EDT
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 5/31/2017 12:03:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AZMAN42]
[#7]
Sorry if this has been asked or is a stupid question. I have an AEM5 in jail at the moment, I was originally planning on doing a MODH build... but since I have had time to think while waiting for my can, I have thought about something else. This leads to my question... Has anyone ran their AEM5 under a rail? Not a PRI rail I have seen that before, Im talking a URX4 or the TROY MLOK rails it wold be a tight fit but based on OD and ID measurements it should be possible. I mocked this one up, (its not 100% to scale) but curious to see if any one has done it? Ill be running it on a 16" BA barrel. Pictured below is my photoshop mashup with the TROY 15" Rail.
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Posted: 5/31/2017 12:07:24 AM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZMAN42:
Sorry if this has been asked or is a stupid question. I have an AEM5 in jail at the moment, I was originally planning on doing a MODH build... but since I have had time to think while waiting for my can, I have thought about something else. This leads to my question... Has anyone ran their AEM5 under a rail? Not a PRI rail I have seen that before, Im talking a URX4 or the TROY MLOK rails it wold be a tight fit but based on OD and ID measurements it should be possible. I mocked this one up, (its not 100% to scale) but curious to see if any one has done it? Ill be running it on a 16" BA barrel. Pictured below is my photoshop mashup with the TROY 15" Rail. http://i.imgur.com/8UzhKdS.png |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/31/2017 6:16:59 AM EDT
[#9]
I run my Ops Inc can under a URX4 (well, just a little bit). I have it on a 12" barrel with a 10" URX4 - original keymod style.
Works fine. End gets a little hot after a while though. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 5/31/2017 10:06:53 AM EDT
[#10]
Pics?
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Posted: 5/31/2017 11:37:12 AM EDT
[#11]
I'd like to finally get a host for the AEM5. Kept thinking I would pay $1400 for a PRI mod 0 upper on sale but cant yet get myself to for just an upper as I wouldn't be doing a true clone anyways.
I have seen a few 16" AEM5 hosts that aren't clones. Anyone have photos of 18" non clone hosts? Was planning WOA or BA with 15" rail. Also, anyone you would recommend to assemble the upper (I have done some in past) with the correct collar and mount or is it easily done by end user as long as profile is correct with corresponding mount? |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 5/31/2017 12:01:49 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WillysJeep:
I'd like to finally get a host for the AEM5. Kept thinking I would pay $1400 for a PRI mod 0 upper on sale but cant yet get myself to for just an upper as I wouldn't be doing a true clone anyways. I have seen a few 16" AEM5 hosts that aren't clones. Anyone have photos of 18" non clone hosts? Was planning WOA or BA with 15" rail. Also, anyone you would recommend to assemble the upper (I have done some in past) with the correct collar and mount or is it easily done by end user as long as profile is correct with corresponding mount? |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/31/2017 8:56:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SpyHawk]
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZMAN42:
Pics? The can is basically almost a whole keymod slot into the handguard. 
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 5/31/2017 10:53:37 PM EDT
[#14]
awesome!! thank you
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpyHawk:
Not a great picture, and it's not configured like this any more, but it's the same barrel, can, and handguard. The can is basically almost a whole keymod slot into the handguard. http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah276/mig1nc/IMAG0404_zpsbcr7vsjw.jpg |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 6/2/2017 10:26:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/3/2017 10:05:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _rory_:
Geissele mk4 and the 18" barrel gives just enough room for the collar. http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu116/rellafrit/Mobile%20Uploads/0602172219_zpsalygcngp.jpg http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu116/rellafrit/Mobile%20Uploads/0602172025_zpsgfthhnju.jpg |
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Posted: 6/4/2017 6:56:07 PM EDT
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Well I just bought a AEM5 yesturday on a form 4 trust to replace my YHM can on my MK-12.
When I get my mounts I will post some pics from my first congeal visit
until then... 
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Posted: 6/5/2017 12:24:11 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
Well I just bought a AEM5 yesturday on a form 4 trust to replace my YHM can on my MK-12. When I get my mounts I will post some pics from my first congeal visit
until then... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/20856/IMG-1174-194604.jpg 
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Posted: 6/5/2017 9:51:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FreefallRet]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTUtah:
Long time in the making. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTUtah:
Originally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
Well I just bought a AEM5 yesturday on a form 4 trust to replace my YHM can on my MK-12. When I get my mounts I will post some pics from my first congeal visit
until then... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/20856/IMG-1174-194604.jpg Had the YHM suppressor on my LMT 308, so being a cheapskate I got a YHM 556 mount for my SPR. I sold the LMT and got a SR-25 and SF suppressor. After retirement I thought it was time to get the correct suppressor, it still won't be clone correct because I hate ARMS rings. It has went though many changes in the last 14 yrs. When I first bought it 
2008 (Cop Hutal I think) 
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Posted: 6/6/2017 12:12:54 AM EDT
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Sorry for the thread hijack but which companies produce barrels that accept the collar straight from the factory?
I ask because I have an AEM5 in Purgatory and I have a BHW spr contour barrel but it looks like the collar step is closer to the gas block than the drawings show. |
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Posted: 6/6/2017 12:50:31 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmac7979:
Sorry for the thread hijack but which companies produce barrels that accept the collar straight from the factory? I ask because I have an AEM5 in Purgatory and I have a BHW spr contour barrel but it looks like the collar step is closer to the gas block than the drawings show. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 6/6/2017 6:35:11 AM EDT
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Ballistic Advantage does as well, if you don't want to break the bank. They come with an accuracy guarantee.
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Posted: 6/6/2017 4:58:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpyHawk:
Ballistic Advantage does as well, if you don't want to break the bank. They come with an accuracy guarantee. |
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Posted: 6/6/2017 6:11:46 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmac7979:
Sorry for the thread hijack but which companies produce barrels that accept the collar straight from the factory? I ask because I have an AEM5 in Purgatory and I have a BHW spr contour barrel but it looks like the collar step is closer to the gas block than the drawings show. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 6/6/2017 8:06:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: k31user]
[#25]
.725 to a point 2.4" back from the bare muzzle, then .749 to the gas block. Short collar with PRI flip up front sight, long collar without.
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Posted: 6/9/2017 2:57:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By k31user:
.725 to a point 2.4" back from the bare muzzle, then .749 to the gas block. Short collar with PRI flip up front sight, long collar without. |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 9:19:08 PM EDT
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Centurion Arms, HCS.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/13/2017 7:12:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpyHawk:
Not a great picture, and it's not configured like this any more, but it's the same barrel, can, and handguard. The can is basically almost a whole keymod slot into the handguard. http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah276/mig1nc/IMAG0404_zpsbcr7vsjw.jpg 
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NC, USA
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Posted: 6/14/2017 7:15:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: SpyHawk]
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By deuc224:
C'mon man, i need complete specs on this rifle! Exact handguard, suppressor, barrel, how it attaches to the barrel( brake, m4 collar?) I would build this for a trunk gun in a minute Knight's Armament URX4 Keymod 10" - I built this before the 10.75" was available, and before M-Lok was available. Ops Inc. 15th Model MBS (like an AEM3 but slightly lighter, I think maybe due to the holes in the baffles). Ballistic Advantage 12" carbine length barrel (no longer in the catalog, but the 11.5" and 12.5" are also available with the MBS profile). Ops Inc. muzzle brake mount. Ops Inc. standard MBS M4 collar. VLTOR A5 RE with springco green spring and A5H2 buffer. BCM Gunfighter charging handle. AAC Improved Bolt Carrier Group (suppressor optimized cam path) Also critical to the build is the MicroMOA Govnah. Mine only has two positions. 5.56 full power unsuppressed and suppressed. Sometimes really weak ammo like PMC bronze or Silver bear will short stroke. And of course the Noveske SBR lower. My future plans, if I don't do something drastic like get an MCX conversion kit when they come out, and the Allen Engineering Sig Collar, is to get a 12.5" midlength with micro gas block and short collar. |
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Posted: 6/14/2017 9:26:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26:
DSG arms too Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26:
Originally Posted By SpyHawk:
Ballistic Advantage does as well, if you don't want to break the bank. They come with an accuracy guarantee.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/14/2017 10:48:41 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpyHawk:
:) OK. This is an amazing shooter. The best SBR AR I've shot. The stroke is super smooth and there's no gas face at all. Zero. Knight's Armament URX4 Keymod 10" - I built this before the 10.75" was available, and before M-Lok was available. Ops Inc. 15th Model MBS (like an AEM3 but slightly lighter, I think maybe due to the holes in the baffles). Ballistic Advantage 12" carbine length barrel (no longer in the catalog, but the 11.5" and 12.5" are also available with the MBS profile). Ops Inc. muzzle brake mount. Ops Inc. standard MBS M4 collar. VLTOR A5 RE with springco green spring and A5H2 buffer. BCM Gunfighter charging handle. AAC Improved Bolt Carrier Group (suppressor optimized cam path) Also critical to the build is the MicroMOA Govnah. Mine only has two positions. 5.56 full power unsuppressed and suppressed. Sometimes really weak ammo like PMC bronze or Silver bear will short stroke. And of course the Noveske SBR lower. My future plans, if I don't do something drastic like get an MCX conversion kit when they come out, and the Allen Engineering Sig Collar, is to get a 12.5" midlength with micro gas block and short collar. 
Regarding the MCX, im planning on getting one in the future. I bought a 6.75 inch barrel by accident so i just kept it and plan on making a black mamba out of it soon. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 6/14/2017 11:52:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: mms2]
[#32]
are Ballistic Advantage Gov barrels to spec for aem 2,3,4 set ups?
they look like they should be from the website the 12.5 seems perfect for the them. several posts about BA and aem5 for spr barrel but nothing about the m4 profile barrels since was looking at the other cans.. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 6/14/2017 9:06:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mms2:
are Ballistic Advantage Gov barrels to spec for aem 2,3,4 set ups? they look like they should be from the website the 12.5 seems perfect for the them. several posts about BA and aem5 for spr barrel but nothing about the m4 profile barrels since was looking at the other cans.. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 6/15/2017 9:10:00 AM EDT
[#34]
awesome thanks
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Posted: 6/15/2017 9:34:37 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mms2:
are Ballistic Advantage Gov barrels to spec for aem 2,3,4 set ups? they look like they should be from the website the 12.5 seems perfect for the them. several posts about BA and aem5 for spr barrel but nothing about the m4 profile barrels since was looking at the other cans.. 
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VA, USA
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Posted: 6/16/2017 9:36:41 AM EDT
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With the new Dead Air can coming out, I'm starting to wonder something:
I've seen DB numbers of about -40db reduction for the AEM2, but is that number confirmed? If so, the AEM's are still among the quietest suppressors around. I'm not all about chasing numbers, but since this is going to be set up as an HD gun, I want to minimize the risk of hurting my kids' ears if I ever have to use it in the house. I've been almost dead set on the AEM2 for a while, but want to be sure. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 6/16/2017 2:56:49 PM EDT
[#37]
40db on an AEM2? Nope.
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VA, USA
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Posted: 6/16/2017 9:21:13 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By k31user:
40db on an AEM2? Nope. |
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Posted: 6/17/2017 5:05:34 PM EDT
[#39]
Anyone know if the collar adapter extender will work on a 10.5 with fsb?
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USA
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Posted: 6/17/2017 5:16:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR_DIESEL:
Anyone know if the collar adapter extender will work on a 10.5 with fsb? |
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Posted: 6/17/2017 5:24:35 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAR-SPR:
For the AEM2/3/4, it may work, but you might have to shave some off of the bayo lug. Anyone out there know for certain? |
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USA
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Posted: 6/17/2017 5:41:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JAR-SPR]
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR_DIESEL:
I should've clarified, I have the aem2. I'm cool with shaving the bayo lug. Thanks for the reply. Anyone out there know for certain? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR_DIESEL:
Originally Posted By JAR-SPR:
For the AEM2/3/4, it may work, but you might have to shave some off of the bayo lug. Anyone out there know for certain? ETA: https://adcofirearms.com/shop/categories/silencers/collar-adapter-extender/ Put this on the barrel, and then a standard AE brake or flash hider. GTG. |
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Posted: 6/17/2017 5:55:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAR-SPR:
The barrel extension was originally intended for 11.5" Colt barrels running AEM2/3/4s. If you are okay with shaving the bayo lug, then it should work for an AEM2. ETA: https://adcofirearms.com/shop/categories/silencers/collar-adapter-extender/ Put this on the barrel, and then a standard AE brake or flash hider. GTG. |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 6/26/2017 11:21:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BMPRacing]
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TN, USA
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Posted: 7/1/2017 1:06:18 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
Yea I bought that upper in 2003 and took it to Afghanistan in 2007-2008. Had the YHM suppressor on my LMT 308, so being a cheapskate I got a YHM 556 mount for my SPR. I sold the LMT and got a SR-25 and SF suppressor. After retirement I thought it was time to get the correct suppressor, it still won't be clone correct because I hate ARMS rings. It has went though many changes in the last 14 yrs. When I first bought it http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL16/709417/1822696/40107998.jpg http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL16/709417/1822696/36885802.jpg 2008 (Cop Hutal I think) http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL965/4056977/12946540/313666290.jpg Thanks for your service and the pictures. Can you elaborate on why you have a dislike for the ARMS rings? I have zero experience with them. |
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Posted: 7/3/2017 12:20:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TennesseeRat:
You may be bad but have you served in Afghan with your own upper and patrolled in a Humvee mounting a Dshk like this Ranger? Lol. Thanks for your service and the pictures. Can you elaborate on why you have a dislike for the ARMS rings? I have zero experience with them. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TennesseeRat:
Originally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
Yea I bought that upper in 2003 and took it to Afghanistan in 2007-2008. Had the YHM suppressor on my LMT 308, so being a cheapskate I got a YHM 556 mount for my SPR. I sold the LMT and got a SR-25 and SF suppressor. After retirement I thought it was time to get the correct suppressor, it still won't be clone correct because I hate ARMS rings. It has went though many changes in the last 14 yrs. When I first bought it http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL16/709417/1822696/40107998.jpg http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL16/709417/1822696/36885802.jpg 2008 (Cop Hutal I think) http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL965/4056977/12946540/313666290.jpg Thanks for your service and the pictures. Can you elaborate on why you have a dislike for the ARMS rings? I have zero experience with them. I had one get snagged on some gear and came unlocked, It didn't affect my zero etc but I just prefer bolt on rings. Its just my preference. I have to Admit the HMMWV belonged to the Romanians and this leads to another story. Just before that deployment I went to Ranger school(RC 06-07) and there was a Romanian officer that was in our class. The TC of that truck recognized my name as the Romanian Officer(his former commander) told him about me
The Romanian guy was a very confident leader and spoke about 4 different languages and spoke English really well. Another funny tidbit is him and I failed the Darby phase together 
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MI, USA
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Posted: 7/8/2017 11:58:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/9/2017 1:08:58 PM EDT
[#48]
Has anyone taken a 5.56 or 5.45 AK and had the barrel profiled to run an AE/Ops can?
 Attached FileI have an AEM5 in jail now, and I was thinking it could be cool to run a setup like that. |
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Posted: 7/9/2017 2:37:34 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By A_Friendly_Manatee:
Has anyone taken a 5.56 or 5.45 AK and had the barrel profiled to run an AE/Ops can? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/438110/IMG-2904-249720.JPG I have an AEM5 in jail now, and I was thinking it could be cool to run a setup like that. Not to mention that the bore might not be concentric to the barrel. |
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Posted: 7/9/2017 3:03:49 PM EDT
[#50]
Ron,
Any timeframe on when you'll be sending ADCO more collar adapter extenders? I have a 10.5" barrel with a fsb so I need one! |
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