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Posted: 4/9/2014 8:47:56 PM EDT
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I owned a few cheap AR's and then sold them all after the Newtown shooting in favor of a less bannable rifle. Recently I thought better of it and decided to get another AR, with the main reason being that I wanted a rifle that was compatible with other rifles and easy to work on. I decided that instead of getting another bargain rifle I was going to get a keeper. I only did the minimum amount of homework and decided to go the no-brainer route by buying a Colt, specifically a R6601, Sporter Match HBAR circa 1994, for about $1,200. Obviously I soon learned (but not soon enough) that this was not going to satisfy my desire for a rifle that was compatible with other rifles, due to the weird sized FCG pins, the sear block and (possibly) the front pivot pin being a different size than standard. The seller said that it had 40 rounds through it, which is hard to believe about a 20 year old rifle, but this thing is pretty much mint, so if it was more than 40 it wasn't much more than 40. Here's my quandry: I don't want to shoot it because I'm not sure if I want to keep it or if I want to sell it and get something with standard sized pins and no sear block. I don't know if the front pivot pins are .250 or .310, and I don't want to unscrew the pin to find out because like I said, this thing is in immaculate condition and I don't want to mar it up, likewise with the FCG pins. I don't want to rip up the flower beds just to check on how the roots are growing, so to speak. On the other hand, maybe I should just buy extra pins and adapters to make it as compatible as possible, and maybe have a competent gunsmith remove or grind down the sear block to make the receiver compatible with all bolt carriers. Oh, and that's the other thing, it has the controversial C carrier with the unshrouded firing pin, so there's one more reason I might want to wash my hands of the whole thing and start over with something more universal. So, what would you guys do, love it or list it? Sear block in lower receiver is only a concern if you expect to ever install a RDIAS, which at $15K per copy plus tax stamp these days, isn't likely. Bolt carriers are not expensive and fit right in your upper. Your hammer & trigger pins limit - somewhat - options for add-ons, but the originals were designed and manufactured for a lifetime of hard use, so what's the issue? Keep your gun, sell your gun, as you please, but there's no debilitating weakness in the way it's configured. Don't worry, be happy. 
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Posted: 4/9/2014 8:51:33 PM EDT
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Nothing to add? Don't post - Eric802
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Posted: 4/9/2014 8:55:14 PM EDT
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Quoted: I saw how long ur post was and immediately hit the back button. Get some sleep bro. OP if I were in your shoes, I would sell it and pick up a 6920. There are plenty of guys in ban states who would jump on that, so moving it on shouldn't be an issue. |
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Posted: 4/9/2014 9:18:05 PM EDT
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Edited...VA-gunnut
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Posted: 4/10/2014 2:41:38 AM EDT
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After spending $1,200 to buy it I don't even think I can afford to install bullets, never mind an RDIAS! Thanks, I hadn't thought of it that way. If I was to get one of the trigger/hammer adapter kits would I be able to swap parts with standard sized AR's?
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Posted: 4/10/2014 2:42:42 AM EDT
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First post here, I amended the text to be briefer, since there were a few comments about the length.
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Posted: 4/10/2014 2:44:04 AM EDT
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So, guys in ban states can buy pre-ban rifles? I know in CA if you didn't have it when the ban went into effect you were prohibited from buying them, or at least that what I thought it was. Other states are different?
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Posted: 4/10/2014 2:44:35 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/10/2014 3:27:21 AM EDT
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The front pin should be .250 I own two 94 era Colt preban's. I swapped out the front screw pivot pin with a mil-spec push pin,spring and detent for about 8 bucks.
I also installed a Geissele DMR and S3G in them. Large 0.169 FCG pins or not really a big deal. Now the sear blocks are a little bit of a PITA I had to remove one completely for the DMR trigger and I shaved the top of one down if you take your time it will look factory. I replaced the cut carriers with Colt M16 bolt carriers |
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Posted: 4/10/2014 6:53:39 AM EDT
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Quoted: I saw how long ur post was and immediately hit the back button. Get some sleep bro. Knock it off. This is not GD.
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Posted: 4/10/2014 8:32:36 AM EDT
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I saw how long ur post was and immediately hit the back button. Get some sleep bro. OP if I were in your shoes, I would sell it and pick up a 6920. There are plenty of guys in ban states who would jump on that, so moving it on shouldn't be an issue. That is exactly what I did with old HBAR. I hated the large FCG pins and the double screw front take down pin ='s Goofy!. I sold it to someone in a ban state for a little less than I paid for it and got a Spikes M4gery that I turned into a Recce... I couldn't have been happier... |
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Posted: 4/10/2014 9:26:51 AM EDT
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If it was built before Sept. 13, 1994, it's worth quite a bit to someone in Connecticut and possibly Massachusetts as well. I know for sure preban rifles are transferable in CT. If you don't like the rifle you could probably sell it for enough to build yourself exactly what you want.
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Posted: 4/10/2014 9:31:54 AM EDT
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If it was built before Sept. 13, 1994, it's worth quite a bit to someone in Connecticut and possibly Massachusetts as well. I know for sure preban rifles are transferable in CT. If you don't like the rifle you could probably sell it for enough to build yourself exactly what you want. Doesn't Maryland also have an HBAR only restriction now as well? I'd say help those behind enemy lines, score a 6920, and dump the rest of the $$$ on hookers and blow. I mean ammo. Or whichever combination of the 3 vices you prefer 
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Posted: 4/10/2014 9:53:58 AM EDT
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First post here, I amended the text to be briefer, since there were a few comments about the length. Don't worry about the posts where people complain about the length of the post. They obviously have nothing to contribute. The people who actually know their shit will still help you. As for your rifle, you won't have many options when it comes to switching things out, but it's still a decent gun in its current configuration. If you want a rifle you can build into other configurations I'd sell it. |
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Posted: 4/10/2014 10:06:23 AM EDT
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Sell it......it's what you really want to do
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Posted: 4/10/2014 11:31:15 AM EDT
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OP, next time you make a wall of text post, please make use of the enter key. That's all you have to add to the OP's inquiry is some smart-assed comment about him/her hitting the enter key so it's easier for you to read? What are you, some sort of douche bag who can't post something useful??? OP - Sell the rifle to someone in a ban-state, pick up a BCM, Colt, etc.. and call it a day. And avoid pinheads like numbnutz above... |
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Posted: 4/10/2014 12:04:48 PM EDT
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Don't worry about the posts where people complain about the length of the post. They obviously have nothing to contribute. The people who actually know their shit will still help you. As for your rifle, you won't have many options when it comes to switching things out, but it's still a decent gun in its current configuration. If you want a rifle you can build into other configurations I'd sell it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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First post here, I amended the text to be briefer, since there were a few comments about the length. Don't worry about the posts where people complain about the length of the post. They obviously have nothing to contribute. The people who actually know their shit will still help you. As for your rifle, you won't have many options when it comes to switching things out, but it's still a decent gun in its current configuration. If you want a rifle you can build into other configurations I'd sell it. My HBAR was a true 1moa rifle; and that is my only regret for selling it. Other than that, It was long and heavy for an AR, it would be a little difficult to mod with the odd pin holes, high shelf receiver, takedown pins, carry handle, etc, etc. I sold mine to someone in Illinois, (it was legal then but who the fuck knows now in that Nazi ran state), who really wanted an AR but his options were extremely limited. I sure as hell didn't gouge him (treat others as you want to be treated and all...), he was happy as hell, I sure was glad to get something standard that I could modify with upgrades, rails, GSSA triggers, optics, etc... We both won in the situation... Sell that rifle to someone who will just be happy to have an AR and know you did something good for a fellow brother/sister in arms, and get yourself something standard you can easily work with... |
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Posted: 4/10/2014 2:27:58 PM EDT
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Don't worry about the posts where people complain about the length of the post. They obviously have nothing to contribute. The people who actually know their shit will still help you. As for your rifle, you won't have many options when it comes to switching things out, but it's still a decent gun in its current configuration. If you want a rifle you can build into other configurations I'd sell it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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First post here, I amended the text to be briefer, since there were a few comments about the length. Don't worry about the posts where people complain about the length of the post. They obviously have nothing to contribute. The people who actually know their shit will still help you. As for your rifle, you won't have many options when it comes to switching things out, but it's still a decent gun in its current configuration. If you want a rifle you can build into other configurations I'd sell it. Kind of weird that is enforced so selectively though. I guess it pays to be one of the cool kids 
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Posted: 4/10/2014 2:28:58 PM EDT
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That's all you have to add to the OP's inquiry is some smart-assed comment about him/her hitting the enter key so it's easier for you to read? What are you, some sort of douche bag who can't post something useful??? OP - Sell the rifle to someone in a ban-state, pick up a BCM, Colt, etc.. and call it a day. And avoid pinheads like numbnutz above... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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OP, next time you make a wall of text post, please make use of the enter key. That's all you have to add to the OP's inquiry is some smart-assed comment about him/her hitting the enter key so it's easier for you to read? What are you, some sort of douche bag who can't post something useful??? OP - Sell the rifle to someone in a ban-state, pick up a BCM, Colt, etc.. and call it a day. And avoid pinheads like numbnutz above... I would be carefull, this seems to be a protected/special person. You may be banned for this 
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Posted: 4/10/2014 8:15:03 PM EDT
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I purchased a big trigger pin, sear block, C carrier, non - threaded, no bayo lug MT6601 new in 1997 for $750. By the mid 2000's I was ready to do something different...but I could not sell my upper. M4gerys were all the rage at the time. Instead, I made what I wanted out of it.
Purists hate it. I love it. There isn't much love for Hbar A2's...and this configuration is perfect as far as my preferences and uses are concerned. It's a real sleeper, as well. It has several thousand rounds through it, but internally it looks no different than my AR's with only a few hundred. There's always options. I used my imagination. |
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Posted: 4/10/2014 8:55:32 PM EDT
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I had a rifle like that back in the day. You could get "non standard" FCG but your choices were limited compared to mil spec groups. I wound up putting in an adapter (it was more or less just a bushing with an off center hole) so that I could use standard uppers.
The carrier is a non issue, any carrier will fit, and the block wasn't an issue for me, I am not allowed to have DIAS 
From what I understand there are some stated that only allow "pre ban" rifles, if you want to sell it I would look to one of those then get a 6920 or whatever AR model appeals to you |
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Posted: 4/19/2014 7:26:33 AM EDT
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Sell it to someone in a ban state that would love to own it for a tidy profit. Win-win.
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:33:52 PM EDT
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Sold it to GlenKar, I don't believe I gouged him to death, and bought a PSA lower. The finishes are way far apart, and I miss seeing my little horsey, but I've got the compatibility I want, and he gets a receiver he can use.
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