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Originally Posted By Melvin_Johnson:
What about this old girl? <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/tokarev/media/Mobile%20Uploads/KIMG0856_zpsad2b2fbd.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/tokarev/Mobile%20Uploads/KIMG0856_zpsad2b2fbd.jpg</a> Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote Dino, I notice this tube "glows" for thirty seconds or so once the power is switched off. The view itself goes away but there's some residual brightness that lingers for a short time. I haven't noticed this in other US-spec tubes and have only seen it on foreign Gen2 stuff. Is this due to the type of film used or something else? |
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Originally Posted By murtis:
The CAD says 9711, 1997, 11:th week. The NSN or Contract num should return you the solicitation if you search for it View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By murtis:
Originally Posted By DevilWillCry:
L3 is the Cage code, but how did you get the approximate age, and therefore contract? I'm still learning and I must be missing something. The CAD says 9711, 1997, 11:th week. The NSN or Contract num should return you the solicitation if you search for it Gotcha! I'm familiar with the CAD and how to decipher it, but I've never seen it written or stamped on the tube like that so didn't recognize it for what it was. |
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Originally Posted By DevilWillCry:
Just got them in today, but these are easy. http://<a href=http://i682.photobucket.com/albums/vv186/3975justin/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20141024_180651696.jpg</a>" /> View Quote The classic Omni IV ITT ultra tube. Been around forever and are tough as nails ! Not fancy, but they work well and you really got to try hard to break one. I love them ! |
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Your bottom tube is a MX-10130B tube made by ITT. It is a very early tube. Probably Omni 1 or 2. Top tube is a very early MX-10160 tube or aviation tube. I would need to see close pics of both top and bottom of tubes to tell you more. Looks early gen 3 but can be gen 2 as well. They are old tubes (late 80's early 90's). Bottom tube is for a PVS-7B and top tube fits many scopes.
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If I had a chance to pick these up what would be a good price point just by what you see here?
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Originally Posted By newblood:
If I had a chance to pick these up what would be a good price point just by what you see here? View Quote Again, they are old and I don't even know if they work or not. I am not sure they are both Gen 3 but I know at best they are early gen 3. Assuming they work well and are early Gen 3 maybe 400 each. This is a BIG assumption on my part though as I don't have enough information here. |
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F9800 SELA tube . Thin film and not gated. Made by ITT and a common tube found in a Envis scope. I believe the Mum uses a different kind of light pipe. I have not looked at a Mum in a long time so I am not sure. I don't have any of those housings around to check for you. I will ask and get you an answer.
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Originally Posted By Dino1130:
F9800 SELA tube . Thin film and not gated. Made by ITT and a common tube found in a Envis scope. I believe the Mum uses a different kind of light pipe. I have not looked at a Mum in a long time so I am not sure. I don't have any of those housings around to check for you. I will ask and get you an answer. ETA: Mum uses same light pipe as PVS-14. View Quote You, sir, are "The Man!" Many thanks. |
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Quoted from CJ7Hawk as I am not up on all the Euro tubes.
"The xx1441 is a special case. Technically, it's only a Gen2 tube... However that series is usually a failed SHD-3 tube, so depending on where it sits, it might be close to SHD-3, XD-4 or XR5 in terms of performance specs. Reasons for failure can be blemishes or not meeting the spec - generally they are quite good and exceed the min spec by a substantial margin. But it's a bit of a lucky dip as to what you'll actually get." |
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The older ITT MX-10160/AVS6 milspec aviation tubes had blue labels on them. The screen color difference (phosphor) is because they are probably Omni III and not Omni IV. Because your dates are right around the time Omni IV came into production it is possible one is Omni III and the other Omni IV which would account for the difference in phosphor color. Omni III is a deep green while IV had the yellowish tinge.
One of your tubes is a F9800E and the other a F9800C. Two different models of the same style tube. |
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Originally Posted By rich20730:
I got some new tubes that seem to throw a monkey wrench into the pigtail theory. Here are a couple L3 OMNI VII's that I picked up recently: https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7554/15769041646_48f154ec57_z.jpg Notice that the bottom tube in this picture has the same pigtail as your AEO Optics tube which you said was non-gated: https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7527/15607604887_b9defce91e_z.jpg Here's another interesting one: https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7479/15607316608_0cb3265f40_z.jpg L3 Cage Code and serial number, but obviously not an L3 tube. Maybe L3 got so busy trying to perfect their filmless technology that they forgot to make enough thin-filmed tubes. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By rich20730:
Originally Posted By Dino1130:
AEO tube with L3 module and L3 pigtails. Pigtails that say 12034 and PN 204D0167 REV D are autogated. The ones that say 12033 PN 204D0167 REV B are not gated. This is for non factory AEO tubes and the information is found on the pigtail. I got some new tubes that seem to throw a monkey wrench into the pigtail theory. Here are a couple L3 OMNI VII's that I picked up recently: https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7554/15769041646_48f154ec57_z.jpg Notice that the bottom tube in this picture has the same pigtail as your AEO Optics tube which you said was non-gated: https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7527/15607604887_b9defce91e_z.jpg Here's another interesting one: https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7479/15607316608_0cb3265f40_z.jpg L3 Cage Code and serial number, but obviously not an L3 tube. Maybe L3 got so busy trying to perfect their filmless technology that they forgot to make enough thin-filmed tubes. I will investigate the pigtail discrepancy and get back to you. Mine were from a AEO tube and mispec L3 tubes may differ. I will look into it. Your bottom tube is the most interesting. Many folks don't believe L3 bought ITT tubes for milspec contracts. Some want folks to believe they just bought power supplies from ITT and used L3 modules. I have very good inside sources that told me L3 did indeed by ITT tubes to supply Gov contracts. Your bottom tube is a ITT tube with a L3 label. Full blown complete ITT tube that L3 bought to supply contract specifications. Now, L3 has there own ways of increasing tube performance but they never made "thin film" tubes technically. Thin film is a ITT term and technology. Since L3 never technically made "thin film" tubes they had to buy them from the only folks who did, ITT. It is always amusing to me when I see ITT milspec tubes with a L3 label on them. While ITT developed thin film tubes L3 went a different direction with filmless and other ways to achieve the same or better performance of ITT thin film tubes. Your bottom tube is fairly rare and a great conversation piece. It is also proof ITT and L3 work together on occasion. |
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Originally Posted By valleyrat1:
Here is another for the tube ID thread. I assume it is an AEO repot? I'm new to this. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1080x768q90/904/hPPiSB.jpg http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1080x768q90/540/DxntUk.jpg http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1080x768q90/538/8rWNEr.jpg http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/150x100q90/673/tE806O.jpg View Quote I am leaning towards AEO but it may be older as I am not familiar with the pigtail design. Most definitely a repot or new tube potted by a third party though. |
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Originally Posted By Dino1130:
I am leaning towards AEO but it may be older as I am not familiar with the pigtail design. Most definitely a repot or new tube potted by a third party though. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Dino1130:
Originally Posted By valleyrat1:
Here is another for the tube ID thread. I assume it is an AEO repot? I'm new to this. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1080x768q90/904/hPPiSB.jpg http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1080x768q90/540/DxntUk.jpg http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1080x768q90/538/8rWNEr.jpg http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/150x100q90/673/tE806O.jpg I am leaning towards AEO but it may be older as I am not familiar with the pigtail design. Most definitely a repot or new tube potted by a third party though. Is it possible there is data on the tube that is not visible unless it it completely removed from the housing? Ive not worked up the nerve to completely remove the tube... |
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SELA tubes~
Any good required reading about specs or details ??? |
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Originally Posted By Dino1130:
Good ITT tubes. They are a Pinnacle tubes without autogating. They are thin film tubes with a standard non gated power supply. Specs of the tube will determine how good it is. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Dino1130:
Originally Posted By JKH62:
SELA tubes~ Any good required reading about specs or details ??? Good ITT tubes. They are a Pinnacle tubes without autogating. They are thin film tubes with a standard non gated power supply. Specs of the tube will determine how good it is. Thx for that explanation. I have seen "SELA" referenced many times but am clueless what it actually means. I have looked several times for any classifications or specs like the Omni series tables but have always been in the "dark" (pun intended) |
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EEV Generation 3, around Omni II/III level of performance - Not great but pretty good compared to Gen2+
That one is Slim ANVIS by the look of it -
Regards David |
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Thx for the info David, you are right it's a slim ANVIS tube.
Do you have any info about if these tubes are weapons rated for caliber > 5.56x45mm? |
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Originally Posted By Cioffdaddy:
Here are two tubes I just picked up. Both say ITT 273354-34 and have a 9 digit serial number. Neither one has a date code. There is also another number on the side that is different for each one. They are 10160 type and the seller told me they are not autogated. That is all I know. Is there any way to tell when these were made, or whether they are military or commercial? https://www.flickr.com/photos/36532389@N00/15465942724/ View Quote Pics not loading for me. I will research the power supply number and tell you what types of tubes used it. |
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I would not mess with it. Just not cost effective for a repot tube. It is most likely a AEO tube or maybe even Summit. Either way sell it and move on. Even dead tubes can fetch 25 to 50 bucks.
It is a L3 module and most likely AEO made. You can de-solder the pigtail as people will buy them. It is now a good tinker toy. |
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Originally Posted By Cioffdaddy:
Here are two tubes I just picked up. Both say ITT 273354-34 and have a 9 digit serial number. Neither one has a date code. There is also another number on the side that is different for each one. They are 10160 type and the seller told me they are not autogated. That is all I know. Is there any way to tell when these were made, or whether they are military or commercial? Pic works in preview but not actual post, don't know why <a href="http://s265.photobucket.com/user/ChrisCioffi/media/imagejpg1.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii207/ChrisCioffi/imagejpg1.jpg</a> View Quote ITT non gated MX-10160A tubes. About Omni IV specs and not gated |
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Originally Posted By Dino1130:
ITT non gated MX-10160A tubes. About Omni IV specs and not gated View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Dino1130:
Originally Posted By Cioffdaddy:
Here are two tubes I just picked up. Both say ITT 273354-34 and have a 9 digit serial number. Neither one has a date code. There is also another number on the side that is different for each one. They are 10160 type and the seller told me they are not autogated. That is all I know. Is there any way to tell when these were made, or whether they are military or commercial? Pic works in preview but not actual post, don't know why <a href="http://s265.photobucket.com/user/ChrisCioffi/media/imagejpg1.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii207/ChrisCioffi/imagejpg1.jpg</a> ITT non gated MX-10160A tubes. About Omni IV specs and not gated Thanks Dino! I had one other question, in case you or someone else knows- there is an "extra" hole in these tubes, does anyone know why it might be there? (image should be working now) All three appear to be filled with potting. Could that mean they be repotted? Just curious. |
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Originally Posted By Cioffdaddy:
Thanks Dino! I had one other question, in case you or someone else knows- there is an "extra" hole in these tubes, does anyone know why it might be there? (image should be working now) All three appear to be filled with potting. Could that mean they be repotted? Just curious. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Cioffdaddy:
Originally Posted By Dino1130:
Originally Posted By Cioffdaddy:
Here are two tubes I just picked up. Both say ITT 273354-34 and have a 9 digit serial number. Neither one has a date code. There is also another number on the side that is different for each one. They are 10160 type and the seller told me they are not autogated. That is all I know. Is there any way to tell when these were made, or whether they are military or commercial? Pic works in preview but not actual post, don't know why <a href="http://s265.photobucket.com/user/ChrisCioffi/media/imagejpg1.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii207/ChrisCioffi/imagejpg1.jpg</a> ITT non gated MX-10160A tubes. About Omni IV specs and not gated Thanks Dino! I had one other question, in case you or someone else knows- there is an "extra" hole in these tubes, does anyone know why it might be there? (image should be working now) All three appear to be filled with potting. Could that mean they be repotted? Just curious. It is normal for that tube. Not a repot. |
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Originally Posted By lilMAC25:
What do I have here? ETA: I assume it's Gen 2 because of the warranty expiration date. Also, it came out of a MUM/Mini-14. I managed to break the light pipe. Now on reassembly, it won't light up at all. I'm awesome. Any hope or did I brick it? ETA2: after sitting all night, IT'S alive! IT'S ALIVE! (Thank God, because my wife was gonna kill me. I mean MURDER). Why the hell would it not work after reassembly, then start working 9 hr later? Still, what do I have? http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/natebedair/22CA9194-509C-47FA-A500-6B1EEA8ECB1F_zpsgmvblkbo.jpg View Quote ITT Omni II Gen 3 tube. Older Gen 3 tube. Not much more advanced over Gen 2 but still very capable ! Will allow you to see in the dark very well but in very dark conditions you may need some external IR light. |
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Originally Posted By bhcz:
Hi, I'm new there, but I have been reading this NVG forum long time without account. I got ITT tube and I don't know what is it exactly. It have engraving "ITT 273358-35 SN1146 02 782", no CAD (DC). Maybe first four characters of SN means November 2011? It is MX10160 or F9800 type tube. http://img11.rajce.idnes.cz/d1101/10/10940/10940375_1727b39845738a25f9820c0450dd6aea/images/mini-IMG_00331.jpg?ver=0 Thank for any opinion. EDIT: is it ITT F9800SLG (or F9800TG) gen 3+ autogated thin filmed PC 2377, SN 27, EBI .75, FOM 1700 ? View Quote MX-101609C Anvis tube. Very nice tube !! |
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Originally Posted By Dino1130:
ITT Omni II Gen 3 tube. Older Gen 3 tube. Not much more advanced over Gen 2 but still very capable ! Will allow you to see in the dark very well but in very dark conditions you may need some external IR light. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Dino1130:
Originally Posted By lilMAC25:
What do I have here? ETA: I assume it's Gen 2 because of the warranty expiration date. Also, it came out of a MUM/Mini-14. I managed to break the light pipe. Now on reassembly, it won't light up at all. I'm awesome. Any hope or did I brick it? ETA2: after sitting all night, IT'S alive! IT'S ALIVE! (Thank God, because my wife was gonna kill me. I mean MURDER). Why the hell would it not work after reassembly, then start working 9 hr later? Still, what do I have? http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/natebedair/22CA9194-509C-47FA-A500-6B1EEA8ECB1F_zpsgmvblkbo.jpg ITT Omni II Gen 3 tube. Older Gen 3 tube. Not much more advanced over Gen 2 but still very capable ! Will allow you to see in the dark very well but in very dark conditions you may need some external IR light. Thanks Dino! For now, it will hopefully be used to blast some hogs, so throwing an IR filter on a Surefire won't be the end of days. Maybe I can move up to a nicer tube in a year or so. |
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Here's an interesting one:
MX-11769/UV ID NO. 80063-A3297320 NSN 5855-01-504-4590 CAD 1122 MFR 13567 CONTR. NO. W9124Q-05-D-0821 As far as I can tell, that contract number pertains to Omni 7, but the date code is well into the Omni 8 range. Any idea why that might be? Which is more important in determining the specs the tube had to meet? |
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Originally Posted By Cioffdaddy:
Here's an interesting one: MX-11769/UV ID NO. 80063-A3297320 NSN 5855-01-504-4590 CAD 1122 MFR 13567 CONTR. NO. W9124Q-05-D-0821 As far as I can tell, that contract number pertains to Omni 7, but the date code is well into the Omni 8 range. Any idea why that might be? Which is more important in determining the specs the tube had to meet? View Quote The date code will mislead you. Stick with the contract number ! The MX-10160A Omni IV tube was still made new in 2013 as I had one with that CAD date. They make replacement tubes all the time and dates can help but it is only part of the puzzle. Relying on dates alone will take you down the wrong road. |
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Originally Posted By RoninNV:
Hey Dino, Im new to posting but a long time lurker. I'm wondering if you guys can help me identify my tube, specifically I'm curious to know if its a pinnacle tube or not. Its in an ITTN-NE/PVS-14-17 Also, the warranty area has a sticker on it, is this as strange as I think it is? MX-11769/UV ID NO 80063-A3297310 NSN 5855-01-504-4590 CAGE 553114 CONTR DAAB07-02-C-J010 CAD 05/08 WAR EXP. FEB13 http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o283/n2ozx2/mx-11769-uv_zpsf03a8bf0.jpg View Quote Hi Ronin ! It is a L3 Omni VI autogated tube. Strange it is in a Night Enforcer (ITT housing) but that is a L3 cage code. The sticker is a bit strange and not something I normally see. It is equivalent to Pinnacle technology but because it is a L3 tube it can't technically be a Pinnacle as that is a ITT trademark name. Nice tube !! |
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Originally Posted By Dino1130:
Hi Ronin ! It is a L3 Omni VI autogated tube. Strange it is in a Night Enforcer (ITT housing) but that is a L3 cage code. The sticker is a bit strange and not something I normally see. It is equivalent to Pinnacle technology but because it is a L3 tube it can't technically be a Pinnacle as that is a ITT trademark name. Nice tube !! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Dino1130:
Originally Posted By RoninNV:
Hey Dino, Im new to posting but a long time lurker. I'm wondering if you guys can help me identify my tube, specifically I'm curious to know if its a pinnacle tube or not. Its in an ITTN-NE/PVS-14-17 Also, the warranty area has a sticker on it, is this as strange as I think it is? MX-11769/UV ID NO 80063-A3297310 NSN 5855-01-504-4590 CAGE 553114 CONTR DAAB07-02-C-J010 CAD 05/08 WAR EXP. FEB13 http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o283/n2ozx2/mx-11769-uv_zpsf03a8bf0.jpg Hi Ronin ! It is a L3 Omni VI autogated tube. Strange it is in a Night Enforcer (ITT housing) but that is a L3 cage code. The sticker is a bit strange and not something I normally see. It is equivalent to Pinnacle technology but because it is a L3 tube it can't technically be a Pinnacle as that is a ITT trademark name. Nice tube !! Awesome, thanks I appreciate the help and the quick response! The guy I bought it from claimed he bought it from TNVC and it was a pinnacle, but it was "upgraded" to handle 300g shock load. Thats when I knew he didnt know what he was talking about haha. I hope the sticker wasnt just added onto an old tube, cause I did check for the date when I checked the pvs14 out. All in all I'm very happy with the performance of it, there dont seem to be any blems either. Not bad for $1600. Thanks! |
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Is it kosher to ask the value of image tubes in here? I know they cracked down bigtime on "how much is my gun worth" threads.
No real mystery but I have an F9800RG with one visible blemish and an F9800TG with a couple speck's that I have been thinking about unloading. Usually when I build scopes for sale I use omni 4/5 tubes and keep the AG ones, but my AG tube quiver is growing and I now have an opportunity to thin that herd also. |
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Originally Posted By blackghost:
Is it kosher to ask the value of image tubes in here? I know they cracked down bigtime on "how much is my gun worth" threads. No real mystery but I have an F9800RG with one visible blemish and an F9800TG with a couple speck's that I have been thinking about unloading. Usually when I build scopes for sale I use omni 4/5 tubes and keep the AG ones, but my AG tube quiver is growing and I now have an opportunity to thin that herd also. View Quote It is my thread and I have no issue with it. I can't imagine staff would care and long as we keep it in this thread and don't clog up the forum with countless what is this worth threads. |
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I've got one that when I remove the retaining ring and the light pipe, the part of the tube that is visible states: ITT 282867-9-031 S/N 209623 DC0712. Any help figuring out what I've got would be appreciated. It does have manual gain and is in a PVS14 housing.
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Originally Posted By ncorry:
I've got one that when I remove the retaining ring and the light pipe, the part of the tube that is visible states: ITT 282867-9-031 S/N 209623 DC0712. Any help figuring out what I've got would be appreciated. It does have manual gain and is in a PVS14 housing. View Quote Working on this as the power supply number is not in my records. Just want you to know I see the post and am investigating. I am pretty sure what it is but I like to be 100% sure. |
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