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Posted: 4/15/2024 7:36:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom:  334 days. Background check completed over two months ago. No movement on my paperwork. Congressman, ATF and FBI contacted via the methods recommended here, by my congressman, the ATF and FBI. Nothing yet and it's been 4 days since my last communication with all of the agencies. I've been waiting since Jan 30, 2023.....I don't even want to do the math. Form 1 SBS, Trust. I spoke with Carol Ripley back in August when she sent it for background....NICS says its still in the queue |
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MS, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 8:31:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RobZ71LM7: 3 eform 1’s on 3/28, 1 approved yesterday-no batch? Not a complaint, but more of a I hope my others aren’t in left field. On 3/28 I filed eform 1’s with ETF finger prints on 3 different lowers. I filed one in the morning, the next in the afternoon and the final one in the evening all on 3/28. On 4/1 I got approval notification but it was only for the one I filed in the evening. The others are still pending. This process makes no sense. Hopefully there’s no issue with my other forms. FWIW, all three lowers are sequentially numbered. Edit: all were done as an individual.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/22177/IMG_6511_jpeg-3177108.JPG Did you supply your SSN with the applications? FWIW I’ve had same day eForm 1 submissions approved anywhere from minutes to hours to a day or two between approvals. 
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MS, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 8:42:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kota4bye: I've been waiting since Jan 30, 2023.....I don't even want to do the math. Form 1 SBS, Trust. I spoke with Carol Ripley back in August when she sent it for background....NICS says its still in the queue I’d be bugging NICS about it. Probably a weekly email inquiry to them at least. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 5:19:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kota4bye: I've been waiting since Jan 30, 2023.....I don't even want to do the math. Form 1 SBS, Trust. I spoke with Carol Ripley back in August when she sent it for background....NICS says its still in the queue Contact the FBI NICS liason email. The other RP on my trust was delayed, so I needed him to go through the NICS contact email to get it processed. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 7:30:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Kota4bye]
[#5]
I did today....
Your ATF/NFA application is in process. When an application is completed, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) will provide the final determination. Currently, there is no further status information available. My mail from Carol back in Aug Ripley, Carol S. (ATF) Aug 1, 2023, 10:34 AM to me Yes, waiting for background to clear – You are in Delay status - The NICS Section has experienced unprecedented high volumes of incoming transactions requiring the escalation and reallocation of NICS employees as we strive for the timely resolution of incoming NICS transactions. As a result, backlogs in other areas of processing have occurred. One of those areas is the processing of the National Firearm Act (NFA) background checks. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 8:10:15 PM EDT
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Back to ask the experts.
Think this will go anywhere? PLEASE GIVE ME AN UPDATED STATUS. C. RIPLEY UPDATED AUG 1 2023 MY FORM 1 WAS AT NICS "DELAYED" STATUS DUE TO UNPRECEDENTED DEMAND. TODAY [email protected] WOULD ONLY STATE THE APPLICATION IS IN PROCESS, NO FURTHER UPDATE. I'M OVER 400 DAYS PENDING, AND HAVE RECEIVED MY FFL AND SOT SINCE SUBMITTING THIS FORM 1. FORM 1 AND FORM 3 ARE BEING APPROVED IN A FEW DAYS TO WEEKS CURRENTLY, BUT I'M STILL PENDING AND NEITHER ATF OR FBI CAN TELL ME WHERE MY APPLICATION IS. AT THIS POINT I'M PREPARED TO ASK MY CONGRESSMAN TO INQUIRY THE PROCESS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 8:29:01 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kota4bye: Back to ask the experts. Think this will go anywhere? Just ask your congressman. It doesn't hurt anything. I did that first and that's how I found the initial trail that led to me going to the NICS liason. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 8:30:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kota4bye: Back to ask the experts. Think this will go anywhere? I'm hoping it works for you. I contacted my rep and it hasn't moved my forms at all. Our reps need to light a fire under these atf assholes and get things going. They claim to be processing forms "in the order received." Yeah right, fuckstick. Then why are there control numbers and submissions way, way later than mine and ^the poster I quoted, being approved daily. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 8:58:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By seaskidoo: I'm hoping it works for you. I contacted my rep and it hasn't moved my forms at all. Our reps need to light a fire under these atf assholes and get things going. They claim to be processing forms "in the order received." Yeah right, fuckstick. Then why are there control numbers and submissions way, way later than mine and ^the poster I quoted, being approved daily. I'm torn to go that whole route, or just transfer it to my FFL (me), Form 2 it, and then start over with the application to transfer it back to (me). The whole thing is ridiculous. |
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NE, USA
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Posted: 4/19/2024 9:48:42 AM EDT
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I am not buying the Trust BS...I simply think they do not like trusts and slow boat them to discourage us from doing it..I filed my simple SS Trust back in Sept. 23.. I can read through the whole thing in under 5 minutes..And they see the SS Trusts 100s of time a day likely..There is only one Lawyer/Company that handles the SS Trusts.. Nothing to get confused about there at all..I can see a Standard more complicated Trust taking a day longer as other names and info are on them..My SS Trust is me, one responsible person..That is no more time consuming than any other individual form in my opinion..
Whats really pisses me off though is that others that did the same SS Trust recently, exact filing methods, and they get theirs in a two to three weeks..And mine sits since last Sept.. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 9:56:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11boomboom]
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By carbineone1964: I am not buying the Trust BS...I simply think they do not like trusts and slow boat them to discourage us from doing it..I filed my simple SS Trust back in Sept. 23.. I can read through the whole thing in under 5 minutes..And they see the SS Trusts 100s of time a day likely..There is only one Lawyer/Company that handles the SS Trusts.. Nothing to get confused about there at all..I can see a Standard more complicated Trust taking a day longer as other names and info are on them..My SS Trust is me, one responsible person..That is no more time consuming than any other individual form in my opinion.. Whats really pisses me off though is that others that did the same SS Trust recently, exact filing methods, and they get theirs in a two to three weeks..And mine sits since last Sept.. Trust laws vary by state, but I see what you mean. It shouldn't take as long as it does for trust Form 4s to be completed. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 4/19/2024 2:23:19 PM EDT
[#12]
How long does it take for the ones currently not getting fast approval’s? I submitted two weeks ago and my guess I’m going to be waiting for a while. Not like I haven’t waited a long time before, curious as to how long this one will take.
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Posted: 4/19/2024 8:08:48 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By arjohnson: How long does it take for the ones currently not getting fast approval’s? I submitted two weeks ago and my guess I’m going to be waiting for a while. Not like I haven’t waited a long time before, curious as to how long this one will take. Lots of factors can extend the time until the paperwork is done. How did you apply? Efile? Paper? Individual? Trust? Multiple responsible people on the trust? Are you waiting to certify? Have you already certified? Do you or your responsible persons get delayed on occasion? |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 4/19/2024 9:19:39 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: Lots of factors can extend the time until the paperwork is done. How did you apply? Efile? Paper? Individual? Trust? Multiple responsible people on the trust? Are you waiting to certify? Have you already certified? Do you or your responsible persons get delayed on occasion? Efile individual with electronic prints. My guess is because my NICS checks don’t come back instantly I’ll get tossed into research or wherever they put it. Usually my NICS takes 10-15 minutes every time I buy a gun, just bought one couple days ago and it took 10 minutes to be approved. I’ve already waited over 420 days a couple years ago and a couple months ago before the fast approval’s started I got 3 approved, 201, 160 and 140 days. The 140 was my fastest so far to date, all three came back in a 2 day period. |
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Posted: 4/20/2024 1:00:33 AM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By arjohnson: Efile individual with electronic prints. My guess is because my NICS checks don’t come back instantly I’ll get tossed into research or wherever they put it. Usually my NICS takes 10-15 minutes every time I buy a gun, just bought one couple days ago and it took 10 minutes to be approved. I’ve already waited over 420 days a couple years ago and a couple months ago before the fast approval’s started I got 3 approved, 201, 160 and 140 days. The 140 was my fastest so far to date, all three came back in a 2 day period. Efile individual should be quick. If you get delayed frequently, that might be it. You should probably shoot an email to NICS liason. Hopefully, it gets taken care of quickly. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 4/21/2024 8:27:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: Efile individual should be quick. If you get delayed frequently, that might be it. You should probably shoot an email to NICS liason. Hopefully, it gets taken care of quickly. I don’t get delayed, just never get the quick approval, as I said usually have to wait 10-15 minutes. Me and my wife bought guns together at same time a few times, she gets the instant approval while I wait around for a little. I did send NICS an email Friday and surprisingly got a response that it was in process. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 12:12:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By arjohnson: I don’t get delayed, just never get the quick approval, as I said usually have to wait 10-15 minutes. Me and my wife bought guns together at same time a few times, she gets the instant approval while I wait around for a little. I did send NICS an email Friday and surprisingly got a response that it was in process. You should get an approval soon from the ATF, then. Every time I've seen that response from NICS, it's been approved within 4 days. Hopefully, the trend continues for you. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 12:30:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: You should get an approval soon from the ATF, then. Every time I've seen that response from NICS, it's been approved within 4 days. Hopefully, the trend continues for you. Hopefully, seeing all these approvals under a week gave me hope lol. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 12:33:11 PM EDT
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I got a response from the NICS liaison at 5:30 this morning. At 10:30 I received six approvals including one old one.
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Posted: 4/22/2024 12:44:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gypsyman: I got a response from the NICS liaison at 5:30 this morning. At 10:30 I received six approvals including one old one. What did you write to get a response? I've emailed them and they only respond with a copypasta. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 12:51:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By seaskidoo: What did you write to get a response? I've emailed them and they only respond with a copypasta. I just sent an email with my prior approval numbers and my pending approvals numbers asking if my prior approved BGC's might help expedite the process. I received what I believe to be the standard canned reply. "Your ATF/NFA application is in process. When an application is completed, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) will provide the final determination. Currently, there is no further status information available." |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 1:14:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gypsyman: I just sent an email with my prior approval numbers and my pending approvals numbers asking if my prior approved BGC's might help expedite the process. I received what I believe to be the standard canned reply. "Your ATF/NFA application is in process. When an application is completed, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) will provide the final determination. Currently, there is no further status information available." I got same response twice, sent another one this morning and they responded about an hour later. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 1:41:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gypsyman: I just sent an email with my prior approval numbers and my pending approvals numbers asking if my prior approved BGC's might help expedite the process. I received what I believe to be the standard canned reply. "Your ATF/NFA application is in process. When an application is completed, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) will provide the final determination. Currently, there is no further status information available." Ah ok. That's exactly what I included, just worded a little differently. I've only recieved that canned response as well. |
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AK, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2024 8:53:57 PM EDT
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Frustrated as I've been trying for days to certify an eForm 4 since the system unexpectedly stopped finalizing submissions with a cadence in the name (Jr/III/etc.)...
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AK, USA
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Posted: 5/8/2024 6:00:23 PM EDT
[#25]
Another week and still no resolution on the cadence issue. ATF has acknowledged that this is a known issue and they are working towards a solution.
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GA, USA
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Posted: 5/9/2024 8:50:27 AM EDT
[#26]
Really wish I’d checked individual approvals before doing my Sten under my trust in January. Would’ve had that thing for months now.
Is contacting Ask the Experts worth a shot? NICS liaison and NFAFax both gave back canned responses. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/9/2024 8:50:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: frankinwr]
[#27]
114 days file with EFT on Eform1 individual. 3 previous approvals. Getting frustrated
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Posted: 5/10/2024 10:35:12 AM EDT
[#28]
I'm filling out an eForm 1 right now and hadn't heard about the 24-month exception letter until today. After a little digging I see some say that it helps, and others say that it makes it take longer. Who is right?
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AK, USA
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Posted: 5/10/2024 12:58:33 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SPTiger: I'm filling out an eForm 1 right now and hadn't heard about the 24-month exception letter until today. After a little digging I see some say that it helps, and others say that it makes it take longer. Who is right? Hasn't impacted my times. It just keeps them from the minor effort of having to verify the trust; it doesn't impact the background check process. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2024 12:16:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Pallas]
[#30]
I’m now at 40 days. E-file, indv, electronic prints, electronic photo, gave my SSN… This for SBR.
First time I have ever done NFA stuff, I’m baffled that I haven’t heard anything. Kind of expected quicker. My transfers are never held up, though last time it took a few hours and the FFL (who does it via computer) said that it reads as if they are digging deeper, I’ve never heard of that before. Previous FFLs called in. Florida calls FDLE for the NCIS check. As far as I can tell, from reading here, everything was accepted, print u/l and photo. Got the confirmation email(s) and my CC was hit twice. Nothing since, nothing on the efile site either. Should I email (what is the email addy) or call them? I know currently that seems like a long wait, but it really isn’t yet. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 6:51:41 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pallas: I’m now at 40 days. E-file, indv, electronic prints, electronic photo, gave my SSN… This for SBR. First time I have ever done NFA stuff, I’m baffled that I haven’t heard anything. Kind of expected quicker. My transfers are never held up, though last time it took a few hours and the FFL (who does it via computer) said that it reads as if they are digging deeper, I’ve never heard of that before. Previous FFLs called in. Florida calls FDLE for the NCIS check. As far as I can tell, from reading here, everything was accepted, print u/l and photo. Got the confirmation email(s) and my CC was hit twice. Nothing since, nothing on the efile site either. Should I email (what is the email addy) or call them? I know currently that seems like a long wait, but it really isn’t yet. You got the email with a submitted copy of your form? |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2024 10:10:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Pallas]
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By walldj45: You got the email with a submitted copy of your form? Yes, both of them, same day I filed it. Payment confirmation e-mail as well. Haven't heard zip since. Also attached was the finger print cover sheet, next to my name at the bottom was "Rec'd", which in my research means they got my EFT file. I'm only concerned because people are saying days, ATF say 21avg, and my FFL/SOT says under a month, here I am at 40 (counting non-business days.) I figure if I had done something wrong, I would have heard about it, I guess they just haven't gotten around to processing it. I will say, the only thing blank on them is 20, payment information. But, a window popped up for that, and I have been charged. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 10:34:34 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pallas: Yes, both of them, same day I filed it. Payment confirmation e-mail as well. Haven't heard zip since. Also attached was the finger print cover sheet, next to my name at the bottom was "Rec'd", which in my research means they got my EFT file. I'm only concerned because people are saying days, ATF say 21avg, and my FFL/SOT says under a month, here I am at 40 (counting non-business days.) I figure if I had done something wrong, I would have heard about it, I guess they just haven't gotten around to processing it. I will say, the only thing blank on them is 20, payment information. But, a window popped up for that, and I have been charged. Form 1 SBR correct? not form 4? I'd start emailing the nics and ATF emails and bugging them. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 10:36:09 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By walldj45: Form 1 SBR correct? not form 4? I'd start emailing the nics and ATF emails and bugging them. You can hit those emails all you want. They will only return a standard message. If you really want help, contact your congressman. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2024 10:37:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Pallas]
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By walldj45: Form 1 SBR correct? not form 4? I'd start emailing the nics and ATF emails and bugging them. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By walldj45: Form 1 SBR correct? not form 4? I'd start emailing the nics and ATF emails and bugging them. Form 1, Application to make and register a firearm. Where do I find the e-mail addresses? Originally Posted By seaskidoo: You can hit those emails all you want. They will only return a standard message. If you really want help, contact your congressman. That is what I have been lead to believe, you just get an automatic standard message. WHat about calling the NFA branch phone number? Jesus, my congressman is Gaetz, I'm sure he's loved. 
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GA, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2024 10:40:24 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pallas: I’m now at 40 days. E-file, indv, electronic prints, electronic photo, gave my SSN… This for SBR. First time I have ever done NFA stuff, I’m baffled that I haven’t heard anything. Kind of expected quicker. My transfers are never held up, though last time it took a few hours and the FFL (who does it via computer) said that it reads as if they are digging deeper, I’ve never heard of that before. Previous FFLs called in. Florida calls FDLE for the NCIS check. As far as I can tell, from reading here, everything was accepted, print u/l and photo. Got the confirmation email(s) and my CC was hit twice. Nothing since, nothing on the efile site either. Should I email (what is the email addy) or call them? I know currently that seems like a long wait, but it really isn’t yet. Since this is a Form 1, there should be something on your efile account. You may want to recheck that. If it's not there, that's kind of fishy... Eform 4s will not show up there, but an Eform 1 definitely should. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2024 10:43:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Pallas]
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bballman25: Since this is a Form 1, there should be something on your efile account. You may want to recheck that. If it's not there, that's kind of fishy... Eform 4s will not show up there, but an Eform 1 definitely should. Sorry, I meant nothing as in "nothing further" (alerts, pending research, etc). Both firearms/applications are listed under submitted/in process. The only thing blank is "finalized date." |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 10:54:22 AM EDT
[#38]
They are all over the place. Despite some 1-2 day approvals, there are still plenty of us out there waiting 6 months or more.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2024 11:01:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Pallas]
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BASE: They are all over the place. Despite some 1-2 day approvals, there are still plenty of us out there waiting 6 months or more. That is my take. Obviously, since it's my first time, combined with all the reports, I get a little worried lol. New guy jitters. ETA: 4.15.2024: Phoned them up this morning, very nice lady said everything is properly submitted, they are averaging 41 days at this point. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 11:19:20 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pallas: That is my take. Obviously, since it's my first time, combined with all the reports, I get a little worried lol. New guy jitters. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pallas: Originally Posted By BASE: They are all over the place. Despite some 1-2 day approvals, there are still plenty of us out there waiting 6 months or more. That is my take. Obviously, since it's my first time, combined with all the reports, I get a little worried lol. New guy jitters. I haven't had any quick ones yet, probably won't. I do know a couple guys that have had less than 1 week approvals followed by ones that take months, so I'm not even sure it has anything to do with the individual. Individual vs trust/LLC are definitely trending quicker but there are really quick LLCs coming back and really slow individuals so who knows... |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 11:49:22 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pallas: Form 1, Application to make and register a firearm. Where do I find the e-mail addresses? That is what I have been lead to believe, you just get an automatic standard message. WHat about calling the NFA branch phone number? Jesus, my congressman is Gaetz, I'm sure he's loved. You can call and they'll be able to tell you if your form is pending or delayed or maybe denied? Seriously, get in touch with your rep. You'll receive 2 forms from them, fill em out and let them get to work. I'm doing that with every NFA purchase. I want the gaytf and whoever else to get incredibly annoyed at having to field these calls. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 11:57:48 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pallas: I'm now at 40 days. E-file, indv, electronic prints, electronic photo, gave my SSN This for SBR. First time I have ever done NFA stuff, I'm baffled that I haven't heard anything. Kind of expected quicker. My transfers are never held up, though last time it took a few hours and the FFL (who does it via computer) said that it reads as if they are digging deeper, I've never heard of that before. Previous FFLs called in. Florida calls FDLE for the NCIS check. As far as I can tell, from reading here, everything was accepted, print u/l and photo. Got the confirmation email(s) and my CC was hit twice. Nothing since, nothing on the efile site either. Should I email (what is the email addy) or call them? I know currently that seems like a long wait, but it really isn't yet. It sounds like your recent transfer at an FFL had a "delay" status at the NICS check. Usually something like someone with the same or similar name as you recently became a prohibited person and they need to research more to make sure that's not you. That most likely happened with your Form 1 as well, and the pain of that is these forms often get put on the back burner at NFA branch. The examiner has to loop back and follow up with NICS/FBI at some point to see if they finished their research and cleared you, and that all adds to the wait time for you. If that's the case that you're getting delays with normal NICS checks, consider getting a UPIN going forward to help NICS identify you faster. |
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AK, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2024 5:09:02 PM EDT
[#43]
Update: Was able to successfully certify an eForm with a cadence (Jr, III, etc.) today. This has been an issue for the past two weeks.
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