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Posted: 1/13/2015 8:40:09 AM EDT
CZ-branded guns are now being made in the US. The first? The 1911A1.
CZ will be showing their version of the 1911A1 at the 2015 SHOT Show. The pistol is designed to be a modern interpretation of the classic Government model, but with tighter tolerances and other changes. 
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Posted: 1/13/2015 11:04:58 AM EDT
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http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_5_37/155290_CZ_1911.html |
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Posted: 1/13/2015 11:06:31 AM EDT
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I guess I don't understand the need for yet another mil-spec 1911 with large ugly roll marks, but, good I guess?
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Posted: 1/13/2015 11:20:11 AM EDT
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$850. Not such a bargain. Why don't they make it in the Czech republic? Then it might only cost $500 and be better quality. |
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Posted: 1/13/2015 11:31:46 AM EDT
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$850. Not such a bargain. Why don't they make it in the Czech republic? Then it might only cost $500 and be better quality. Maybe because they already have the equipment and experience with Dan Wesson in the US compared to no tooling or experience in the Czech Republic. |
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Posted: 1/13/2015 1:00:36 PM EDT
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Maybe because they already have the equipment and experience with Dan Wesson in the US compared to no tooling or experience in the Czech Republic. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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$850. Not such a bargain. Why don't they make it in the Czech republic? Then it might only cost $500 and be better quality. Maybe because they already have the equipment and experience with Dan Wesson in the US compared to no tooling or experience in the Czech Republic. This. While it will be a plain A1, it will be made by Dan Wesson with probably much tighter tolerances and more hand fitting than the majority of other A1's out there that are in the ~$500-$600 ballpark. And if it's built like other Dan Wesson's, no MiM parts. I don't know if these guns will be an exception, but I know all Dan Wesson 1911's are tool steel, machined parts...nothing MiM'd. |
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Posted: 1/13/2015 1:33:35 PM EDT
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This. While it will be a plain A1, it will be made by Dan Wesson with probably much tighter tolerances and more hand fitting than the majority of other A1's out there that are in the ~$500-$600 ballpark. And if it's built like other Dan Wesson's, no MiM parts. I don't know if these guns will be an exception, but I know all Dan Wesson 1911's are tool steel, machined parts...nothing MiM'd. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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$850. Not such a bargain. Why don't they make it in the Czech republic? Then it might only cost $500 and be better quality. Maybe because they already have the equipment and experience with Dan Wesson in the US compared to no tooling or experience in the Czech Republic. This. While it will be a plain A1, it will be made by Dan Wesson with probably much tighter tolerances and more hand fitting than the majority of other A1's out there that are in the ~$500-$600 ballpark. And if it's built like other Dan Wesson's, no MiM parts. I don't know if these guns will be an exception, but I know all Dan Wesson 1911's are tool steel, machined parts...nothing MiM'd. Initial reports are that it will contain MIM parts to make the price point. Not sure if that's 100% true or what parts will be MIM. |
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Posted: 1/13/2015 1:39:44 PM EDT
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Initial reports are that it will contain MIM parts to make the price point. Not sure if that's 100% true or what parts will be MIM. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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$850. Not such a bargain. Why don't they make it in the Czech republic? Then it might only cost $500 and be better quality. Maybe because they already have the equipment and experience with Dan Wesson in the US compared to no tooling or experience in the Czech Republic. This. While it will be a plain A1, it will be made by Dan Wesson with probably much tighter tolerances and more hand fitting than the majority of other A1's out there that are in the ~$500-$600 ballpark. And if it's built like other Dan Wesson's, no MiM parts. I don't know if these guns will be an exception, but I know all Dan Wesson 1911's are tool steel, machined parts...nothing MiM'd. Initial reports are that it will contain MIM parts to make the price point. Not sure if that's 100% true or what parts will be MIM. Ah, ok. |
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Posted: 1/13/2015 3:31:07 PM EDT
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Even if they contain MIM parts, as long as they're made with the same craftsmanship and QC as other Dan Wessons, I don't think it's that huge of a deal. Well done MIM does exist.
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Posted: 1/13/2015 3:34:28 PM EDT
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the craftsmanship of my CZs has always been top notch. I'm actually really disappointed to hear that they will be built by lazy american's now. Even sig didn't hold their quality when being moved stateside, I doubt CZs will either.
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Posted: 1/13/2015 3:42:55 PM EDT
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the craftsmanship of my CZs has always been top notch. I'm actually really disappointed to hear that they will be built by lazy american's now. Even sig didn't hold their quality when being moved stateside, I doubt CZs will either. Dan Wesson, who makes some of the finest quality 1911's in the game, is now just an employer of a bunch of lazy Americans....cool story bro. What chapter do you stop the horseshit? |
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Posted: 1/13/2015 6:14:33 PM EDT
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Enough. This isn't GD.
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Posted: 1/14/2015 1:08:40 PM EDT
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If it has a forged frame the price isn't to bad. That's one of the reasons I wont buy any of the less expensive 1911's.
I'm an old school 1911 guy and a cast frame is a deal breaker for me.
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Posted: 1/14/2015 11:40:40 PM EDT
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They've updated the rollmarks...
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Posted: 1/14/2015 11:48:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryIf I was stateside, I would have to get one. |
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Posted: 1/22/2015 6:48:12 PM EDT
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I have it on pretty good authority that there will be no MIM parts in this pistol.
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Posted: 1/22/2015 8:20:06 PM EDT
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Did they switch from a dovetailed front sight to a staked one, or is that just the lower angle of the second picture playing tricks on my eyes?
And it still needs less rollmark. |
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Posted: 1/23/2015 11:14:29 PM EDT
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Another 1911 option...all is good in the hood.
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Posted: 4/4/2015 10:02:03 AM EDT
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Are these out on the market yet ?
When i talked to CZ, they were going to start shipping right after SHOT,this year. I have not seen,or heard of any.myself. I really want to eyeball one. 
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Posted: 4/4/2015 10:14:29 AM EDT
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I will be getting one of these.
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Posted: 4/4/2015 10:28:37 AM EDT
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Dan Wesson, who makes some of the finest quality 1911's in the game, is now just an employer of a bunch of lazy Americans....cool story bro. What chapter do you stop the horseshit? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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the craftsmanship of my CZs has always been top notch. I'm actually really disappointed to hear that they will be built by lazy american's now. Even sig didn't hold their quality when being moved stateside, I doubt CZs will either. Dan Wesson, who makes some of the finest quality 1911's in the game, is now just an employer of a bunch of lazy Americans....cool story bro. What chapter do you stop the horseshit? Am I missing something? I would consider a Dan Wesson a step or two above Ruger, Taurus, etc. Far cry from "finest quality". I don't know anyone into 1911s who owns one... |
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Posted: 4/4/2015 12:27:59 PM EDT
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I doubt there will be MIM parts. Especially not for "Price Point."
This is only about $350 below the entry level DW's. Add the front/back checkering, the DW name, the night sights, and the VZ grips and you have that $300-$400. Take it away form a DW and slap CZ 1911 on there, thats where the $850 price point comes from. Maybe it is another Mil Spec 1911. But Its going to have tighter tolerances and better machining, better QC and everything compared to a RIA or some phillipino version. Oh, and they're made in the USA. So fuck RIA. |
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Posted: 4/4/2015 12:31:01 PM EDT
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Am I missing something? I would consider a Dan Wesson a step or two above Ruger, Taurus, etc. Far cry from "finest quality". I don't know anyone into 1911s who owns one... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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the craftsmanship of my CZs has always been top notch. I'm actually really disappointed to hear that they will be built by lazy american's now. Even sig didn't hold their quality when being moved stateside, I doubt CZs will either. Dan Wesson, who makes some of the finest quality 1911's in the game, is now just an employer of a bunch of lazy Americans....cool story bro. What chapter do you stop the horseshit? Am I missing something? I would consider a Dan Wesson a step or two above Ruger, Taurus, etc. Far cry from "finest quality". I don't know anyone into 1911s who owns one... Then you're sorely mistaken. I would say you ought to venture into the 1911 forum and ask. DW production, as has CZ, has always been slow. But their firearms ARE top notch finest quality. I would rank 1911 makers as such: Wilson Ed Brown Nighthawk Les Baer (The last three in no particular order) Dan Wesson STI ...Maybe Kimber, Then down from there. |
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Posted: 4/4/2015 7:27:04 PM EDT
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Would have been perfect if they would have just put the CZ logo behind the serrations (above the safety) and just said 1911 45 acp on the slide. Also, is it a series 70 or 80?
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Posted: 4/4/2015 11:39:29 PM EDT
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I will be getting one of these. I concur. |
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Posted: 4/5/2015 10:42:44 AM EDT
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I will be getting one of these. I concur. I have a fund started........in my safe,about half so far, but i plan to buy one ASAP. |
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